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| sudipto | amotoki, Thank you for helping me out with https://review.openstack.org/194078 , when you and carl talk about a follow up patch - do you refer to a new gerrit review? Or a follow up patchset to the same review? | 05:36 |
| amotoki | sudipto: carl already post a followup review depending on yours. | 05:37 |
| amotoki | sudipto: if you want to correct your commit message, feel free to update :-) | 05:37 |
| sudipto | amotoki, ok - let me correct the commit message... | 05:38 |
| amotoki | sudipto: we cannot change commit msgs once it is merged. | 05:38 |
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| sudipto | amotoki, yeah, i will do right away. BTW - thanks for help with the UTs, i found it generally very complex for the neutronclient. | 05:39 |
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| amotoki | sudipto: yeah,... it is our tech debt :-( | 05:39 |
| sudipto | amotoki, if i can help the community in any sort of way - i'd be very happy to do so! | 05:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Determine ip version during subnet create. https://review.openstack.org/194078 | 05:41 |
| sudipto | amotoki, changed the commit message ^ | 05:42 |
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| miyagishi_t | fujitsu | 06:47 |
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| Ramanjaneya | Hi all | 06:54 |
| Ramanjaneya | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198277/ | 06:54 |
| Ramanjaneya | Jenkins check failed..i suspect it's not related my changes | 06:54 |
| Ramanjaneya | tempest.exceptions.TimeoutException: Request timed out | 06:55 |
| Ramanjaneya | <Ramanjaneya> 2015-07-06 14:15:06.869 | Details: (ServerActionsTestJSON:test_resize_server_confirm_from_stopped) Server 453e661b-776f-4613-aeda-a9deeef77095 failed to reach SHUTOFF status and task state "None" within the required time (196 s). Current status: ACTIVE. Current task state: None. | 06:55 |
| Ramanjaneya | <Ramanjaneya> i suspect it not releated to qos..can please confirm me once. as i'm not aware of this | 06:55 |
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| Ramanjaneya | can some suggest how to proceed to remove it | 06:55 |
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| sudipto | Ramanjaneya, just do a 'recheck' | 07:01 |
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| telnes | hello, somebody free to talk about "network namspace" | 08:16 |
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| iwamoto | yamamoto: thanks | 09:08 |
| yamamoto | iwamoto: hi | 09:08 |
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| iwamoto | yamamoto: python3 work on ryu was a lot.. | 09:11 |
| yamamoto | iwamoto: otsukare | 09:11 |
| iwamoto | yamamoto: i should have asked you to do that all ;) | 09:11 |
| yamamoto | iwamoto: heh | 09:12 |
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| yamamoto | iwamoto: i highly appreciate that you did it by yourself. :) | 09:14 |
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| iwamoto | yamamoto: well, most of the work was mechanical. although there were some fun stuff such as your dynamic test_parser thing | 09:17 |
| yamamoto | iwamoto: dynamic things were fun to write. :-) | 09:18 |
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| iwamoto | yamamoto: you are invited to look at delicate differences of MethodType between 2 and 3 ;) | 09:21 |
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| yamamoto | interesting. | 09:23 |
| yamamoto | iwamoto: don't you need a similar change for ryu.app.wsgi.WebSocketRegistrationWrapper ? | 09:24 |
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| iwamoto | yamamoto: maybe. but cleaning up ryu.app might make more sense | 09:31 |
| yamamoto | iwamoto: are you going to clean it up? | 09:32 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/182746 | 09:33 |
| iwamoto | yamamoto: well, maybe in some future.. nobody will want the old ryu openstack controller to work with python3 | 09:33 |
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| iwamoto | yamamoto: as a general note, I think this kind of use of MethodType should be avoided if possible. I needed it because nose expects test functions to be of MethodType | 09:36 |
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| iwamoto | yamamoto: it's a confused use of bound/unbound methods, which isn't nice | 09:37 |
| yamamoto | iwamoto: sure. you should fix nose. :-) | 09:37 |
| iwamoto | yamamoto: ;) | 09:38 |
| yamamoto | iwamoto: i guess i should have submitted nose fix when i introduced the use of MethodType to workaround it. sorry! | 09:39 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: ping | 12:28 |
| pc_m | amotoki: pong | 12:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Remove deprecated OVS and LB plugin DB tables https://review.openstack.org/195694 | 12:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Improve check_migration command error message https://review.openstack.org/199075 | 12:28 |
| amotoki | pc_m: I saw your mail about db migration. | 12:28 |
| amotoki | pc_m: is it what you would like to ask yesterday? | 12:29 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: Yeah. | 12:29 |
| pc_m | I think I have the version part worked out. | 12:29 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: Has all quesitons been resolved? | 12:30 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Should I do a separate bug to fix the HEAD file? | 12:30 |
| amotoki | pc_m: in my understanding, each "repo" has a separate series of migratiions | 12:30 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Yeah, looks like the VPN repo HEAD is incorrect. | 12:31 |
| pc_m | (today) | 12:31 |
| amotoki | though there are some dependencies for example neutron db migration needs to be run before the initial db migration of vpnaas. | 12:31 |
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| pc_m | wondering if I should fix as a separate bug, or include the fix into the bug fix I'm working on. Probably the former, huh? | 12:32 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: 56893333aa52 is added after kilo release, so I think we can simply update HEAD to match 56893333aa52 | 12:34 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Yes I think the commit for that change missed updating HEAD. | 12:35 |
| pc_m | I'll do a separate commit to fix it. | 12:35 |
| amotoki | pc_m: and if necessary let's fix HEAD to always match the real "head". | 12:35 |
| pc_m | amotoki: How do we do that? | 12:35 |
| amotoki | pc_m: neutron repo has a check to match "HEAD" to the migration head so that we can avoid migration branches. | 12:36 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Any pointers to where that check is? | 12:36 |
| amotoki | pc_m: it is done as a part of pep8 tox.ini: neutron-db-manage --config-file neutron/tests/etc/neutron.conf check_migration | 12:37 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: Will have to see if with pep8 we have the neutron source in the venv, so that we can access the config file... | 12:38 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: Also, in my latest response in the email thread. I need to figure out the best way to handle the migration needed. Any suggestions? Examples? I'm thinking it may be better to use objects vs a raw database query, because of all the table relationships. Thoughts? | 12:40 |
| amotoki | pc_m: it is better to avoid raw database query. I believe it is a base start line. | 12:42 |
| amotoki | hopefully we can handle the default value in the logic not in db records (touched by db migration) | 12:43 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Any examples on how to use db objects in the migration file? | 12:43 |
| amotoki | pc_m: do you have any concrete example of a db schema? e.g. in a review | 12:44 |
| pc_m | amotoki: I haven't pushed up the changes yet, as I wanted to complete more of the change. | 12:45 |
| amotoki | now reading your mail carefully. | 12:45 |
| pc_m | amotoki: It indicates what I'm trying to do with the migration file. | 12:46 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: let me think more. I am thinking what are actually needed. | 12:50 |
| pc_m | amotoki: ok | 12:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Fix migration head https://review.openstack.org/199082 | 12:57 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: ^^ | 12:57 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: ping | 13:23 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: pong | 13:23 |
| pc_m | On migration... are you saying that a different command is needed than the check_migration? | 13:23 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: if you look at devstack lib/neutorn-legacy, you wil notice we have four types of neutron-db-manage runs. | 13:25 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: no option, --sertvice <service> (for lbaas, fwaas, vpnaas) | 13:25 |
| amotoki | pc_m: each runs its own series of db migration. | 13:26 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, so you need a rebase? | 13:26 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka: it seems that a few of the functional job bugs are fixed on master | 13:26 |
| ajo | other strategy could be to cherry pick the fixes and merge later | 13:27 |
| ihrachyshka | yeah. I wonder whether we will also catch some new viruses ;) | 13:27 |
| amotoki | pc_m: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/neutron-legacy#L607-L621 | 13:27 |
| ajo | I'm ok with both if that works | 13:27 |
| ihrachyshka | not sure cherry-picks are safe | 13:27 |
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| ajo | ihrachyshka: me neither, I guess clean cherry picks, are, conflicting ones not? | 13:27 |
| ajo | not sure :) | 13:27 |
| pc_m | amotoki: gotcha. That does the update, right? | 13:27 |
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| pc_m | upgrade | 13:27 |
| amotoki | pc_m: yes | 13:27 |
| pc_m | In neutron, there is a check_migration done. I did the same in VPN. Do I just need to add the plugin conf file. | 13:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Lajos Katona proposed openstack/neutron: Fix locale problem in execute() https://review.openstack.org/199096 | 13:28 |
| amotoki | pc_m: I think we can do similar, but I am not what is exactly needed at the moment. | 13:28 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, I'll probably just rebase | 13:29 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/tox.ini#L89 | 13:29 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: I ran it and it passed. I ran it with HEAD=kilo and it still passed :( | 13:31 |
| amotoki | pc_m: + --service vpnaas (I think) | 13:31 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka: ack, thanks :) | 13:31 |
| amotoki | pc_m: i need to go. (maybe back later) | 13:32 |
| pc_m | amotoki: OK. Will play with it a bit more. | 13:32 |
| pc_m | amotoki: With --service vpnaas, the check failed. Looks like that is it. | 13:32 |
| amotoki | pc_m: good news :-) | 13:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Fix migration head https://review.openstack.org/199082 | 13:34 |
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| ihrachyshka | pc_m, yeah, that's because --service influences on the path that HEAD file is looked in | 13:39 |
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| pc_m | ihrachyshka: Yeah, I think that is why I had problems with the original generation of my new migration file (on another commit). | 13:40 |
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| regXboi | general question: is there (and should there be) a process to deprecate neutron DB items before they are removed? | 14:07 |
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| pc_m | Is there a known recent issue with unit tests that use the API to drive tests? I'm getting failures in tests where I've made no changes. | 14:08 |
| pc_m | ncode | 14:08 |
| pc_m | in code. | 14:08 |
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| apuimedo | gsagie: ping | 14:11 |
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| pc_m | amuller: ping | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | vikram.choudhary proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Support CLI changes for associating subnetpools and address-scopes. https://review.openstack.org/196472 | 14:13 |
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| amuller | pc_m: Sorry I don't have additional info on randomly failing unit tests | 14:14 |
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| pc_m | amuller: Seeing any problem with webtest based test cases lately? Any changes to webtest infra recently (within past day)? | 14:14 |
| amuller | pc_m: Not that I'm aware of but I may not have latest info | 14:15 |
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| amuller | pc_m: I'm not seeing the py27 job fail at the gate though? | 14:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: portsecurity_db_common: Access db columns in a consistent way https://review.openstack.org/198224 | 14:17 |
| pc_m | amuller: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199082/ just failed py27. It has no code changes, other than specifying an new head for migrations. Worked yesterday afternoon. | 14:18 |
| pc_m | amuller: Unfortunately the error is very generic (_check_status failing, which would be normal for some/many tests) | 14:19 |
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| amuller | pc_m: ahh this is in the vpnaas repo | 14:19 |
| pc_m | amuller: yes | 14:19 |
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| pc_m | amuller: ahh as in 'ahh I think I know what may be contributing to the failure' or 'ahh different repo so I'm not sure'? | 14:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Network RBAC DB setup and legacy migration https://review.openstack.org/191707 | 14:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Implement RBAC API https://review.openstack.org/192555 | 14:22 |
| amuller | pc_m: Ahh as in I was not aware of this issue and I'm starting to look at it, but I'm also kind-of-in-a-meeting so I don't have 100% attention | 14:22 |
| amuller | so just gonna half ass both :) | 14:23 |
| pc_m | amuller: :) | 14:23 |
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| amuller | pc_m: I'm seeing the unit test failure off a fresh git clone vpnaas repo | 14:24 |
| amuller | locally | 14:24 |
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| amuller | that makes it easier | 14:24 |
| pc_m | Have any changes occurred in webtest/API code in neutron? | 14:25 |
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| amuller | pc_m: I don't know, reading | 14:26 |
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| pc_m | amuller: Was directed to everyone. | 14:27 |
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| ihrachyshka | ajo, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199110/ - merge | 14:27 |
| pc_m | amuller: I have another VM, where Neutron has a commit from 5 days ago, and it passes. The failing VM has a commit from 9 minutes ago. | 14:27 |
| amuller | pc_m: cool that's useful | 14:27 |
| amuller | pc_m: ok well if you have that data point then you just git bisect on the Neutron repo your local vpnaas repo is using | 14:28 |
| amuller | until you find the offending patch | 14:28 |
| amuller | pc_m: Can you do that? | 14:28 |
| pc_m | amuller: I can try to do a git bisect thingy, although may be a bit hard with the two repos | 14:28 |
| pc_m | amuller: will give it a shot... | 14:29 |
| amuller | pc_m: Thanks | 14:29 |
| amuller | pc_m: Keep me in the loop | 14:29 |
| pc_m | roger that | 14:29 |
| openstackgerrit | vikram.choudhary proposed openstack/neutron: Add address scope API tests https://review.openstack.org/198850 | 14:29 |
| armax | ajo: ping | 14:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Python3: cast the result of zip() to list https://review.openstack.org/199128 | 14:32 |
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| moshele | ihrachyshka: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195440/ | 14:37 |
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| moshele | grayk: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195440/ | 14:40 |
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| pc_m | amuller: ping | 15:10 |
| amuller | pc_m: ya | 15:10 |
| pc_m | amuller: Git bisect is showing that the first bad commit is the one for common prefix cleanup. | 15:10 |
| pc_m | amuller: 18bc67d56faef30a0f73429a5ee580e052858cb5 | 15:10 |
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| amuller | pc_m: OK I'm not sure what's going on in that patch hopefully Armando will be able to help | 15:12 |
| georgem1 | I was doing a port scan against my public IP space and I noticed that port 9697 is exposed on the outside on all the IP's owned by neutron routers, and I'm trying to find a way to close this access. | 15:12 |
| georgem1 | I think it's a security issue to have a tenant lock down his instances but still open up a web service on his public IP space, what do you think? | 15:12 |
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| georgem1 | is it maybe a misconfiguration on my side? | 15:13 |
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| pc_m | amuller: It is a cross repo change. | 15:14 |
| amuller | pc_m: yeah I see one of the patches in that series went in to vpnaas repo | 15:14 |
| pc_m | amuller: One on 7/2 and one on 7/6 | 15:14 |
| amuller | georgem1: I think this may have something to do with what you're talking about: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133506/ | 15:15 |
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| amuller | georgem1: That patch was merged after Kilo I think, in to L master | 15:16 |
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| amuller | georgem1: 9697 is the metadata port | 15:16 |
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| georgem1 | amuller: any chance it will be backported to juno? I think it's a security issue to have a web service open on a public IP without the cloud admin or the tenant being able to limit access to it | 15:17 |
| amuller | georgem1: You can contact Cedric (ZZelle on IRC) and ask him to backport it. It looks like a backportable patch. | 15:17 |
| georgem1 | amuller: cool, thank you very much | 15:18 |
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| pc_m | amuller: FYI bisect of commit breaking VPN py27 log http://paste.openstack.org/show/352245/ | 15:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Network RBAC DB setup and legacy migration https://review.openstack.org/191707 | 15:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Implement RBAC API https://review.openstack.org/192555 | 15:24 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, hi. | 15:32 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, can we get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192937/ moving anywhere? | 15:32 |
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| ihrachyshka | I'm happy to update the neutron patch however we decide there | 15:32 |
| ihrachyshka | (if we decide to include it this cycle of course) | 15:33 |
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| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: hi, I believe I addressed your comments in new patch set https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197950/ | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: ack | 15:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: OVS agent factor our port stats processing https://review.openstack.org/199164 | 15:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: Move logic to handle OVS status out of rpc_loop https://review.openstack.org/199165 | 15:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: [neutron-db-manage] support separate migration subtrees https://review.openstack.org/194198 | 15:57 |
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| ajo | armax pong | 16:00 |
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| georgem1 | amuller: any idea when/where zzelle shows up? I found his gmail address but I'm not sure if I should send him an email about that backport to Juno... | 16:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: Move logic to handle OVS status out of rpc_loop https://review.openstack.org/199165 | 16:03 |
| amuller | georgem1: I don't think he's on a US timezone, try emailing him | 16:03 |
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| georgem1 | ok, thanks again | 16:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: Move logic to handle OVS status out of rpc_loop https://review.openstack.org/199165 | 16:08 |
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| armax | pc_m: ping | 16:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Fix issues with allocation pool generation for ::/64 cidr https://review.openstack.org/199176 | 16:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Fix issues with allocation pool generation for ::/64 cidr https://review.openstack.org/199176 | 16:19 |
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| armax | pc_m: I think I found where the problem is | 16:26 |
| armax | pc_m: something in the test is not mocked up correctly | 16:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Integrate DNS resolution with an external DNS service https://review.openstack.org/88624 | 16:27 |
| armax | pc_m: I’ll propose a fix shortly | 16:28 |
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| Steap | ihrachyshka: hey, I'm Cyril :) | 16:28 |
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| ihrachyshka | Steap, hey! ok, good to know :) so I am concerned that py34 environment is currently hard to debug for multiple reasons | 16:29 |
| ihrachyshka | Steap, first, it is just very verbose now | 16:29 |
| ihrachyshka | so it's hard to spot a failure | 16:29 |
| ihrachyshka | that would not be a problem if the env actually supported regexps though | 16:30 |
| ihrachyshka | but it seems that it does not, and just runs all tests no matter which args are passed | 16:30 |
| Steap | yeah | 16:30 |
| ihrachyshka | so I got a failure in feature/qos, and it's not clear how to make any sense of the output | 16:30 |
| Steap | I've seen your bug report | 16:30 |
| ihrachyshka | (the fact that it fails in gate only does not help either) | 16:30 |
| Steap | so basically, I intend to get rid of the crazy py34 env ASAP | 16:30 |
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| ihrachyshka | Steap, like... how? | 16:31 |
| Steap | (I have 5124 tests passing, out of 7236) | 16:31 |
| Steap | ihrachyshka: well, once the port is complete, we can just use the default env with {posargs} | 16:31 |
| Steap | as we do with py27 | 16:31 |
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| ihrachyshka | Steap, well, it still can be a long road, depending on whether we killed the worst issues, or instead left them for the final flush | 16:32 |
| Steap | yeah | 16:32 |
| Steap | ihrachyshka: is there an easy way to enable regexp and still keep that list ? | 16:32 |
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| ihrachyshka | Steap, not sure, I thought you may have an answer to that, I didn't think you run the whole env each time you want to test a fix :) | 16:34 |
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| Steap | ihrachyshka: what I do is I fix an issue, run teh whole test while I eat/sleep/hack on somehting else | 16:35 |
| Steap | unless I really need to debug a single test | 16:35 |
| Steap | in which case I source the environment | 16:35 |
| Steap | and run python -m testtools.run foo.bar.baz | 16:35 |
| Steap | would this be acceptable ? | 16:36 |
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| ihrachyshka | ah right. yeah, that's a bit painful, but can be ok as temp workaround | 16:36 |
| Steap | yeah, it is meant as a workaround | 16:36 |
| clarkb | you can also let py34 be the default test env that does the default things | 16:36 |
| clarkb | then create a second target that only runs the listed tests | 16:36 |
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| ihrachyshka | clarkb, then py34 should be made non-voting | 16:37 |
| Steap | yeah, if we were to that | 16:37 |
| Steap | I would keep py34 as is | 16:37 |
| Steap | and use py34-debug as a "manual" thing | 16:38 |
| clarkb | Steap: the problem with that is py34 being the normal thing is the desired end state so why not just start there? | 16:38 |
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| clarkb | but yes, any jobs that need to pass would have to be updated to use the other target | 16:38 |
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| Steap | clarkb: because we want it to be the voting gate | 16:39 |
| Steap | so that we do not have any regressions | 16:39 |
| clarkb | Steap: and you can do that, just do it wiht the special target | 16:39 |
| Steap | yeah, right | 16:39 |
| ihrachyshka | clarkb, mostly to avoid regressions, but I get your point, it may actually be the thing to do. Steap, how often do you envision us regressing if it's non voting? | 16:39 |
| Steap | but well, that means sending more patches to project-config | 16:39 |
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| Steap | ihrachyshka: like, every damn patch | 16:39 |
| ihrachyshka | ;) nah, that's definitely not the case ;) | 16:40 |
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| Steap | I mean, having the gate voting is quite solid | 16:40 |
| Steap | how many people actually need to debug py3-related issues on Neutron ? | 16:40 |
| ihrachyshka | but yeah, there is a balance. let's at least document the hack around in tox.ini for those being hit by a failure, and maybe move as quick as possible on getting it full suite ;) | 16:40 |
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| Steap | I'm sending 1/2 patches every day, so we should get there | 16:41 |
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| clarkb | ya either way works, I have a personal preference for pyXX working the same across all openstack projects | 16:43 |
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| Steap | that would be best, but well | 16:45 |
| Steap | I mean, the port should be over by the end of the month | 16:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Add IP_ANY dict to ease choosing between IPv4 and IPv6 "any" address https://review.openstack.org/199181 | 16:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: DB & API changes for IPv6 Prefix Delegation https://review.openstack.org/158697 | 16:49 |
| ihrachyshka | Steap, ok cool, let's make it a goal and revisit the status then | 16:50 |
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| Steap | ihrachyshka: yeah, the last bugs are always the hardest, but I'm quite confident :) | 16:52 |
| Steap | so, it's already late in France, see you :) | 16:52 |
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| ihrachyshka | Steap, heh, apaarently it's not late in Czech Republic since I'm staying ;) | 16:53 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: That's because you're crazy | 16:53 |
| Steap | I think so. | 16:54 |
| ihrachyshka | mestery, HenryG: feature/qos branch needs merge: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199110/ | 16:54 |
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| ihrachyshka | amuller, proud to be one | 16:54 |
| Steap | 7pm seems like the right time to stop working :p | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: DB & API changes for IPv6 Prefix Delegation https://review.openstack.org/158697 | 16:54 |
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| mestery | ihrachyshka: LGTM | 16:54 |
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| anilvenkata | pc_m: Hi Paul | 16:56 |
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| anilvenkata | pc_m: this is regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1471940 | 16:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1471940 in neutron "VPNaaS Ipsec does not correctly determine master L3 HA Router" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to venkata anil (anil-venkata) | 16:57 |
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| anilvenkata | pc_m: can I work on writing RFE for this feature ? | 16:57 |
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| pc_m | anilvenkata: hi. sure go ahead! | 16:58 |
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| anilvenkata | pc_m: thanks Paul | 16:58 |
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| pc_m | anilvenkata: Thanks for helping out! | 17:01 |
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| anilvenkata | pc_m: you are welcome :) | 17:01 |
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| amuller | anilvenkata: you'll need new code for this or is this a bug fix? | 17:02 |
| amuller | I mean is that expected to work or not? | 17:02 |
| anilvenkata | amuller: I have to check, it might be a bug | 17:02 |
| amuller | anilvenkata: should probably check before you write an RFE :) | 17:03 |
| anilvenkata | amuller: sure :) | 17:03 |
| anilvenkata | amuller: thanks Assaf | 17:03 |
| amuller | anilvenkata: I don't know much about the reference implementation of vpnaas but I do know a bit about L3 HA, keep me in mind | 17:03 |
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| amuller | anilvenkata: if you can reproduce that bug reliably and expand the bug report that'd be a good first step | 17:04 |
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| anilvenkata | amuller: sure, Tomorrow I will test that and update the bug | 17:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivar Lazzaro proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose Apic ML2 mechanism driver https://review.openstack.org/193365 | 17:06 |
| anilvenkata | amuller: Your blogs are point of reference for me for HA and DVR | 17:06 |
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| amuller | anilvenkata: Cool :) | 17:07 |
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| pc_m | amuller: I don't think it is a bug, in that support for HA was never tested nor implemented in VPN. | 17:07 |
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| amuller | pc_m: might be really easy, might be hard, someone needs to map it out | 17:08 |
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| amuller | pc_m: I asked internally I couldn't find anyone that tested that combo either | 17:09 |
| pc_m | amuller: I don't think it worked in Juno or if it did, it was by coincidence. Needs a design and tests. | 17:09 |
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| amuller | functional testing like we have for the L3 agent right now in the Neutron repo is doable, actual integrating testing will be really hard | 17:09 |
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| amuller | pc_m: since we don't test L3 HA in Tempest. I have a long series of patches up for review for full stack testing for L3 HA, but I don't know how to integrate *aaS repos with full stack | 17:10 |
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| pc_m | amuller: Me neither :) | 17:11 |
| anilvenkata | pc_m: Bug reporter (Tuomas) updated that he was not using vpnaas along with l3-ha in Juno | 17:11 |
| pc_m | amuller: May be nice to have other VPN tests using full stack | 17:11 |
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| SourabhP | HenryG: ping | 17:52 |
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| pc_m | armax: Hey, saw your ping late (was hosting an IRC meeting). So you have a handle on the breakage? | 17:55 |
| armax | pc_m: working on it | 17:56 |
| armax | bear with me | 17:56 |
| armax | pc_m: verifying locally first | 17:56 |
| pc_m | armax: great! Will keep an eye out for the fix, so I can get other commits to rebase and pass py27. | 17:56 |
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| armax | pc_m: up | 17:56 |
| armax | yup | 17:56 |
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| cathy_ | armax: hi | 18:01 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: [ing | 18:19 |
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| armax | pc_m: ^^ | 18:20 |
| pc_m | dougwig: Can you look at my response to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196237/? I was thinking better to have this in VPN repo than to refer to neutron (and have a dependency) | 18:20 |
| pc_m | armax: Thanks! | 18:20 |
| pc_m | armax: Will try locally in my area. | 18:21 |
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| pc_m | armax: Using local repo with latest VPN code, and 199211 patch on Neutron, the py27 test passes | 18:28 |
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| cathy_ | armax: hi, Armando, do you have a good template or example for the API spec? | 18:33 |
| cathy_ | armax: I have replied to Paul's comments posted yesterday. | 18:34 |
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| armax | pc_m: cool | 19:01 |
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| dougwig | pc_m: but you have a dependency. guaranteed. the question is, can we reference it properly, via PATH or /etc, or use neutron's isntalled location dynamically? | 19:44 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: Sorry, missing... where is the dependency? | 19:47 |
| dougwig | can vpnaas run without neutron? that's the dependency. :) | 19:47 |
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| dougwig | pc_m: if what you have works, i'm willing to say 'yes', let's stop the bleeding, but the copying and fixed paths are not "correct". | 19:48 |
| jaypipes | pc_m: lol, thanks to you, I have seen the word "Plethora" more times in the last couple days than the last time I watched "Three Amigos". | 19:48 |
| pc_m | dougwig: yeah, but I'm talking about the rootwrap config and filter files. In this commit, I'm trying to reference them from the VPN repo, without a dependency on files in the neutron repo, which can change from under us and break thinks (much like code changes do now) | 19:48 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: The fixing paths are only to match to the location of the venv. How else could we handle that? | 19:50 |
| pc_m | jaypipes: Glad I can make your day :) | 19:50 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: This fix is working, from what I can tell. I would *guess* that a better way is to have neutron deploy the needed files as part of setup (but have no idea how to handle that). | 19:51 |
| jaypipes | pc_m: :) | 19:52 |
| pc_m | jaypipes: Any idea why I'm getting a failure in the upgrade? | 19:52 |
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| pc_m | jaypipes: I'm poking around, and it seems like maybe neutron_config.database.connection is not set/ | 19:52 |
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| jaypipes | pc_m: sorry, haven't had any time to look at it :( | 19:58 |
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| pc_m | jaypipes: I think I found the issue. | 20:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dustin Lundquist proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure floatingip is associated with IPv4 address https://review.openstack.org/198908 | 20:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Support for alembic branches in sub-projects https://review.openstack.org/198524 | 20:41 |
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| pc_m | armax: hi | 20:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: WIP: Support alembic migrations for external repo https://review.openstack.org/198523 | 20:42 |
| pc_m | armax: I (finally) was able to run one of the VPN functional tests (I needed your 199211 fix and my tox fix 196237) and it passed OK as well. | 20:44 |
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| pc_m | HenryG: ping | 20:45 |
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| shivharis | mestery: ping | 20:52 |
| mestery | shivharis: hi my friend | 20:52 |
| shivharis | howdy,. | 20:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: Devref for alembic migrations https://review.openstack.org/199272 | 20:52 |
| shivharis | needed some guidance, i sent you an email with the details | 20:53 |
| HenryG | pc_m: pong (warning: flakey internet connection here) | 20:53 |
| pc_m | HenryG: I'm trying to test out a migration script I'm developing. I run the neutron-db-migrate with --service vpnaas and upgrade head, but it doesn't see to be reaching my code (I have pbd.set_trace() in code). Any pointers on how I get that to work? | 20:53 |
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| mestery | shivharis: ack | 20:54 |
| HenryG | pc_m: I am not sure. I have been doing that a lot today and it works for me. | 20:55 |
| shivharis | mestery: i send you an email with some details regarding topology service, needed some guidance on how to proceed | 20:55 |
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| pc_m | HenryG: I do 'neutron-db-manage --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --service vpnaas upgrade head' | 20:56 |
| HenryG | pc_m: You have to set the breakpoint in the installed vpnaas | 20:56 |
| mestery | shivharis: Sounds good, I'll reply on that thread | 20:56 |
| shivharis | mestery: thanks a ton | 20:56 |
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| pc_m | HenryG: I have the breakpoint in the migration file's upgrade() method in the source tree. | 20:57 |
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| HenryG | pc_m: yeah that's not going to work | 20:58 |
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| pc_m | HenryG: Can you elaborate on how I do it? | 20:59 |
| HenryG | pc_m: are you using a devstack installation? or unit test (.tox/py27)? | 20:59 |
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| pc_m | HenryG: I'm just in my repo, so .tox (though I haven't sourced the venv) | 20:59 |
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| HenryG | pc_m: OK, so you need to source the venv | 21:00 |
| christx2 | hey there | 21:00 |
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| HenryG | pc_m: The *neutron* venv actually | 21:01 |
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| HenryG | pc_m: In the neutron repo: source .tox/py27/bin/activate | 21:02 |
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| HenryG | pc_m: then 'pip install -e . && pip install -e ../neutron-vpnaas' | 21:02 |
| HenryG | pc_m: that installs neutron and vpnaas | 21:02 |
| HenryG | in the venv | 21:03 |
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| pc_m | HenryG: OK | 21:04 |
| HenryG | pc_m: now .tox/py27/lib/python2.7/site-packages/neutron-vpnaas.egg-link should be pointing to your vpnaas source repo | 21:05 |
| HenryG | pc_m: so you can set your breakpoint where you had it | 21:05 |
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| HenryG | pc_m: now while still in the venv, run 'neutron-db-manage ... --service vpnaas upgrade head' | 21:06 |
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| HenryG | pc_m: you may need to clear the database first | 21:07 |
| pc_m | HenryG: Import error on pymysql. Do I need to install that? | 21:07 |
| HenryG | pc_m: yes: pip install PyMySql (in the venv) | 21:07 |
| HenryG | pc_m: Working on that issue (see https://review.openstack.org/199272) | 21:08 |
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| pc_m | OK. When I run it jus shows two info messages (as mentioned in the email). context and non-transactional DDL | 21:09 |
| pc_m | HenryG: Same as what I see, if I run this over in the VPN repo. | 21:09 |
| HenryG | pc_m: breakpoint not reached? | 21:10 |
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| pc_m | Should HEAD have the version of my new migration file? | 21:10 |
| HenryG | pc_m: try clearing the db first | 21:10 |
| pc_m | HenryG: Correct. Two info messages shown twice, and then returns. | 21:10 |
| pc_m | HenryG: Easy way to do that? | 21:11 |
| HenryG | pc_m: mysql -e "drop database hgtest; create database hgtest;" | 21:11 |
| HenryG | oops | 21:11 |
| HenryG | pc_m: mysql -e "drop database neutron; create database neutron;" | 21:11 |
| pc_m | with neutron? | 21:11 |
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| HenryG | pc_m: yes with neutron. Although I like to just use a test db for testing. | 21:12 |
| pc_m | HenryG: Is there a way to specify the test db in the command? | 21:13 |
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| HenryG | pc_m: it's in the connection string | 21:13 |
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| HenryG | pc_m: you can create a test config file with that connection string | 21:14 |
| pc_m | HenryG: I get errors as the VPN tables de not exist. | 21:14 |
| HenryG | pc_m: first do upgrade head without --service | 21:15 |
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| HenryG | pc_m: vpnaas needs the core neutron tables to exist first | 21:15 |
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| pc_m | HenryG: Ah that worked. Thanks! | 21:17 |
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| pc_m | HenryG: Now, I just have to figure out how to do the complex update I want. | 21:17 |
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| pc_m | HenryG: Two other questions... | 21:18 |
| pc_m | HenryG: I | 21:18 |
| pc_m | HenryG: I'm realizing that doing this via venv won't work, because I need a table with some data in it that will be updated. | 21:19 |
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| pc_m | HenryG: Right? | 21:19 |
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| HenryG | pc_m: You should be able to do the same thing with devstack | 21:20 |
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| pc_m | HenryG: If I use devstack, so that I already have data in the tables, for example (I guess I need to run with an older version?), how to vary that process? | 21:20 |
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| pc_m | HenryG: IOW: (1) is there a way to do this from venv, with data in the tables before migrate? (2) Is it easier to do via devstack with an older version and then migrate,? (3) If yes, what are the steps? | 21:22 |
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| HenryG | pc_m: perhaps we can pick this up another time? It's late and I have to wake up early tomorrow. | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Remove lingering traces of q_ https://review.openstack.org/199312 | 21:24 |
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| pc_m | HenryG: OK, or if you have thoughts you can email me. Thanks for the help so far... | 21:24 |
| HenryG | pc_m: OK, ttyl | 21:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: get-me-a-network: Really get a network https://review.openstack.org/196803 | 21:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dustin Lundquist proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure floatingip is associated with IPv4 address https://review.openstack.org/198908 | 21:54 |
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| cathy_ | armax: hi | 22:49 |
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| cathy_ | armax: are you there? | 22:51 |
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| armax | cathy_: hi, here | 22:58 |
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| cathy_ | armax: hi | 22:59 |
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| armax | I was going through the api doc again this morning | 23:00 |
| cathy_ | armax: Good. I have posted replies to the new comments from Paul. Have you seen those? | 23:01 |
| armax | one question I had was regarding the implicit assumption behind the chain creation | 23:01 |
| cathy_ | armax: armax ok, let me know your question and I will give it a try | 23:01 |
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| cathy_ | what implicit assumption are you referring? | 23:02 |
| armax | do we assume that we can create a chain amongst ports that belong to separate networks? | 23:02 |
| cathy_ | what d you mean by separate networks, could you be more specific? | 23:03 |
| armax | say I want chain [{'p1': 'p2'}, {'p3': 'p4'}, {'p5': 'p6'}] | 23:03 |
| cathy_ | ok | 23:04 |
| armax | can p1, p2 belong to Network 1 and p3, p4, p5, p6 belong to Network 2 | 23:04 |
| armax | or must they belong to the same logical network? | 23:04 |
| Sukhdev | kevinbenton: Hey Kevin - please see my comment on - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198182/ | 23:05 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: so you have encountered cases where the host_id field is set but the device_owner hasn't been? | 23:06 |
| cathy_ | I don't think we have any restriction there. The user is supposed to already set up network 1 and network 2 and network 1 and network 2 can communicate . The chain is on top of the existing network and the packets will be tunneled through them. | 23:06 |
| armax | cathy_: the reason why I am asking if that there would be obvious implication to the way the implementation needs to be | 23:06 |
| armax | cathy_: because there may be routers involved, security groups etc | 23:07 |
| Sukhdev | kevinbenton: I was discussing this with a co-worker. This was written almost 2 years ago - and we were scratching our heads trying to remember - so, we both decided that it is safe to be defensive - as we must have had a case which forced us to put this test | 23:08 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: ok. if you're comfortable with it then i won't block it | 23:09 |
| cathy_ | So it is required that the user already set up the underlying networks. Then the user can request a flow to be steered through a sequence of VMs that can be scattered among the networks. But how to set up the two networks and the process of setting up the underlying networks are outside the scope of the SFC project | 23:09 |
| Sukhdev | kevinbenton: It seems harmless - it may be dangerous to remove it :-) | 23:09 |
| cathy_ | Does this make sense? I can add this calrification to the spec. | 23:10 |
| armax | cathy_: ok, that’s fine, but we should probably make that clear | 23:10 |
| cathy_ | armax: sure. Agree | 23:10 |
| cathy_ | I will add the calrification. | 23:10 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: right, but it might be implying something can happen that might not :) | 23:10 |
| armax | cathy_: ok, tnx | 23:10 |
| armax | cathy_: next point I wanted to clarify was the way a chain can be used | 23:11 |
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| cathy_ | You are welcome. | 23:11 |
| cathy_ | could you be more specific? | 23:12 |
| Sukhdev | kevinbenton: you are right - we did run couple of test case (but definitely not exhaustive) and noticed that both were always set - it is hard to conclude though | 23:12 |
| armax | cathy_: the head and tail of the chain described in the proposal mention Service Functions | 23:12 |
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| cathy_ | let me take a look at the head and tail in the spec to see whether it causes confusion. | 23:13 |
| armax | cathy_: it would be useful how it could be practically used when you have regular workload instances | 23:14 |
| armax | cathy_: in the picture | 23:14 |
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| cathy_ | Ok, what that means is that the chain is composed of an ordered sequence of SFs. The first SF is the head of the chain and the last SF is the tail, that's it. But the head and tail do not mean the flow source and flow destination. The flow source and destinaiton is defined in the flow classifier. | 23:15 |
| armax | that I get | 23:16 |
| armax | cathy_: what I understand is that traffic matching the classifier goes through the chain | 23:16 |
| armax | cathy_: right? | 23:17 |
| cathy_ | The combination of source params defined in the flow classifier identifies the flow source. | 23:17 |
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| cathy_ | armax: yes! | 23:17 |
| armax | cathy_: right, but in the context of overlapping IP’s how’s that going to work? | 23:17 |
| cathy_ | maybe I would remove the head and tail to avoid the confusion. | 23:17 |
| armax | cathy_: in other words, in a multitenant environment the matching must be tenant aware somehow | 23:18 |
| armax | cathy_: or am I missing something? | 23:18 |
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| cathy_ | Yes, a chain is created for a tenant. There is a tenant ID in the parameter of the chain API. | 23:19 |
| cathy_ | Different tenants will not share the same chain | 23:20 |
| armax | cathy_: it would be also good to show ‘who’ is the user calling some of the commands exemplified in the proposal and whether we’d want to allow certain users to perform certain actions | 23:20 |
| cathy_ | But different applications flows of the same tenant should share the same chain | 23:20 |
| armax | cathy_: ok, so no chain nor classifier sharing? | 23:20 |
| cathy_ | yes, no sharing among tenants | 23:21 |
| armax | cathy_: ok, thanks | 23:22 |
| cathy_ | The user could be an admin or any application built on top of it. | 23:22 |
| armax | cathy_: we should try and document these ‘implied’ assumptions as much as we can | 23:22 |
| armax | cathy_: next thing | 23:22 |
| armax | cathy_: the parameters in the port chain | 23:22 |
| armax | cathy_: what’s the encapsulation for? | 23:22 |
| cathy_ | armax: I will try my best to add more clarification. | 23:23 |
| armax | cathy_: and what about the failure_policy? we should document what these are for or are going to be used | 23:23 |
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| cathy_ | armax: the answer to this will be long. Let me try to explain. | 23:23 |
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| armax | cathy_: that’s ok, perhaps we don’t have to take this right now but it’d be good to capture it in the proposal | 23:24 |
| armax | cathy_: I would like to understand the encapsulation bit though | 23:24 |
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| Ila | carl_baldwin: haleyb:Could you please review the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122024/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123815/ | 23:26 |
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| cathy_ | armax: So in IETF, there have been discussion on how to add chain-ID and metadata to chain flow packets. chainID can be used instead of n-tuple matching in the vSwitch forward table for next hop forwarding of the chain flow packets. This will greatly improve the vSwitch performance. It can also be used to identify different chains' packets when multiple chains cross at the same SF VM. . | 23:27 |
| armax | cathy_: understood | 23:27 |
| armax | cathy_: but that would really be an implemention detail not exposed to the user, correct? | 23:28 |
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| armax | cathy_: the encapsulation bit is not really exposed to the user at all? | 23:28 |
| cathy_ | So there is a standard spec on the chain ID and metadata encapsulation format. and this encap parameter is for specifying that | 23:28 |
| armax | cathy_: correct? | 23:28 |
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| cathy_ | armax: So the classifier and vSwitch needs to know what encap to use and tag the packets of a chain flow since there could be different encap mechanism, such as IETF Service chain header encap, VLAN, or others | 23:30 |
| armax | right | 23:30 |
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| cathy_ | A consistent encap mechanism needs to be used for a chain | 23:30 |
| armax | cathy_: but that would be determined by the ports that make up the chain | 23:30 |
| armax | cathy_: the other problem I can see is that if we allow ports from different networks to be chained, there’s validation required as now different networks can have different encap | 23:31 |
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| cathy_ | Yes, but there management plane(the Neutron layer) needs to coordinate the encap mechanism among the SF VMs and the vSwitches. | 23:31 |
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| cathy_ | Service VMs themselves will not communicate in the data path with vSwitch on the encap mechanism. There is no protocol defined for that, and the industry direction is to have a central management plane to coordinate that with the SDN thought, | 23:33 |
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| armax | cathy_: not sure I understand for first statement on ‘ervice VMs themselves will not communicate in the data path with vSwitch on the encap mechanism.’ | 23:35 |
| armax | cathy_: regardless of how the underlying mechanism implements the chain, I am thinking that the API/Neutron glue needs to be expressive enough | 23:36 |
| armax | cathy_: but more importantly that the Neutron model doesn’t get in the way of the implementation | 23:37 |
| cathy_ | armax: Yes, different networks can have different encaps. So the more accurate mechanism will be that we specify different encap mechanism for different segments of the chain. But that could make the data path complicated. In most cases, IETF encap will be supported since it has become the standard. So to make it simple which will cover most scenarios, we will have a encap mecahnism per chain instead of per Service Function | 23:37 |
| armax | cathy_: what encap are you talking about specifically? | 23:38 |
| cathy_ | the NSH encap which is actually a merged spec of the original nsh and SCH chain header encap mechanism. I can forward you that email. | 23:39 |
| armax | cathy_: merged spec where? | 23:39 |
| cathy_ | I will forward you the link to the spec | 23:39 |
| armax | cathy_: I can hardly think that NSH is an IETF standard | 23:40 |
| armax | cathy_: so I would honestly refrain from using for the built-in solution on top of OVS | 23:40 |
| cathy_ | in IETF. originally there are two proposals on encapsulation. One is NSH, the other is SCH (actually SCH is proposed by my and my ao-authors). Now these two specs merged and the new merged spec is still called NSH:-) | 23:41 |
| armax | cathy_: but that doesn’t make them standard | 23:41 |
| armax | either way | 23:41 |
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| armax | cathy_: what’s the current status of the RFC? | 23:42 |
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| cathy_ | Now it is a standard working spec and will become a RFC (maybe it already become a RFC. I have been frustrated by the IETF SFC group and give up on my part and did not track closely now). I am pretty sure it will become a RFC since no other competing spec any more. | 23:44 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: ping | 23:45 |
| armax | cathy_: I know there are already a couple of other IETF RFC’s for this type of advanced metadata tagging at the encapsulation layer | 23:45 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: hi | 23:45 |
| cathy_ | OVS already has some support of this IETF encap mechanism. | 23:45 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: hey, given a relationship on a model. can i get a reference to the db model that it's related to? | 23:46 |
| armax | cathy_: that’s a patch that won’t be making into mainline linux for quite some time | 23:46 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: yes | 23:46 |
| zzzeek | MyClass.relname.property.mapper | 23:46 |
| armax | cathy_: if we really want to keep this open and free from vendor pollution we should stick to what we have in vanilla OVS, at least for the built-in implementation | 23:46 |
| cathy_ | But for SFC, that is the only spec which becomes standard working document, all others are not accepted/considered. Even mine is accepted, it has been merged with NSH. | 23:47 |
| armax | cathy_: then surely we’ll work out allow various parties to experiment with other mechanisms | 23:47 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: ok. and MyClass is the one with the relationship? | 23:47 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: yes | 23:47 |
| armax | cathy_: but that shouldn’t be our reference framework | 23:47 |
| cathy_ | Yes, that is why I add the encap mechanism in the API to allow different encap instead of one | 23:48 |
| armax | cathy_: that’s not the point, before we get that widely accepted we can’t use it | 23:48 |
| armax | cathy_: if you can provide me the link of the draft you’re referring too I’d love to look into it | 23:49 |
| armax | cathy_: did the other expired? | 23:49 |
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| kevinbenton | zzzeek: ok. i'm getting a missing attribute error | 23:50 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: i must be calling it on the wrong hting | 23:50 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: but i can dig into it with your hint | 23:50 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: thanks | 23:50 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: good luck | 23:50 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: oh, :) | 23:51 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: relname was a variable in your example referring to relationship name :) | 23:51 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: i was typing relname | 23:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Rosen proposed openstack/neutron: Do not use dnsmasq process as nameserver https://review.openstack.org/199346 | 23:51 |
| cathy_ | NSH will be a RFC and is already kind of widely accepted. I am not sure what other encap can prevail that. But we do not need to implement the vendor specific type-1 encap which is in an OVS private version. We can implemtn type-2 which is not vendor specific and is required by many people for flexibility of carrying variable length metadata in TLV format. Type-1 is fixed length and tailored to a vendor's hardware implemntat | 23:51 |
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| kevinbenton | zzzeek: thinking it was something special | 23:51 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: got it now | 23:51 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: thx | 23:51 |
| armax | cathy_: I don't care | 23:51 |
| armax | cathy_: not sure else I should be able to explain it | 23:52 |
| armax | RFC’s are not standard | 23:52 |
| armax | and they can’t be claimed as widely accepted | 23:52 |
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| armax | cathy_: all I am saying is that we should refrain from using technologies that are not mainstream | 23:53 |
| cathy_ | which draft link would you like me to forward to you? | 23:53 |
| armax | cathy_: for the reference PoC implementation | 23:53 |
| armax | cathy_: the one you’re referring to | 23:53 |
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| cathy_ | NSH or SCH? | 23:53 |
| armax | cathy_: ok, both :) | 23:54 |
| cathy_ | OK, I am not sure whether the SCH has expired since I got a notice some ago about that it will expire soon. | 23:54 |
| armax | cathy_: are these the two: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-quinn-sfc-nsh/ and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-sfc-sch/ | 23:55 |
| armax | cathy_: it looks like it has | 23:55 |
| cathy_ | yes | 23:55 |
| armax | cathy_: just a week ago | 23:55 |
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| armax | cathy_: so you’re referring to this one? https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-quinn-sfc-nsh/ | 23:56 |
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| cathy_ | OK, so what encap we should use for reference implementation? I think a new chain-ID definitely has benefit. | 23:57 |
| cathy_ | armax: yes | 23:58 |
| cathy_ | and NSH and SCH are the only ones that have chain-ID. | 23:59 |
| armax | cathy_: why can’t we do traffic steering with a pure openflow approach? I may sucks performance wise, but that would buy us more time until the get more clarity to what de-facto solution emerges | 23:59 |
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