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| changzhi | ajo: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199588/ ;-) | 02:13 |
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| bzhao | Could anyone please check the bug below? | 03:11 |
| bzhao | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1467791 | 03:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1467791 in neutron "Specific ipv4 subnet to create port and return port contains ipv4 and ipv6 address" [Undecided,Opinion] | 03:11 |
| bzhao | Could anyone please check the bug below? thank you very much | 03:11 |
| bzhao | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1467791 | 03:11 |
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| bzhao | Could anyone please check the bug below? thank you very much | 03:27 |
| bzhao | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1467791 | 03:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1467791 in neutron "Specific ipv4 subnet to create port and return port contains ipv4 and ipv6 address" [Undecided,Opinion] | 03:27 |
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| Ramanjaneya | ajo: Good morning | 05:56 |
| Ramanjaneya | ajo: ping | 05:57 |
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| changzhi | hanzhang: ping | 07:04 |
| hanzhang | changzhi, pong | 07:04 |
| changzhi | hanzhang: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199588/ ;-) | 07:05 |
| hanzhang | I will | 07:05 |
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| changzhi | hanzhang: I have fixed db issue, but there is still a unknown problem. | 07:05 |
| hanzhang | what problem? | 07:06 |
| changzhi | hanzhang: unit test failed, but my environment is okay | 07:06 |
| changzhi | unit test "test_subnet_lifecycle_dns_retains_order" | 07:06 |
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| hanzhang | the question that you have asked this morning? | 07:07 |
| changzhi | yes | 07:07 |
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| changzhi | it's strange | 07:07 |
| hanzhang | sorry, I have no idea about this problem | 07:07 |
| changzhi | Could someone else helps me? review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199588/ | 07:08 |
| hanzhang | you can let the core reviewers help to you check it | 07:08 |
| changzhi | ok.thx | 07:08 |
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| bzhao | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1467791 | 07:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1467791 in neutron "Specific ipv4 subnet to create port and return port contains ipv4 and ipv6 address" [Undecided,Opinion] | 07:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yushiro FURUKAWA proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Packet logging API for Neutron https://review.openstack.org/203509 | 07:55 |
| changzhi | garyk: ping | 07:55 |
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| garyk | changzhi: hi | 07:59 |
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| changzhi | garyk: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199588/ | 08:00 |
| changzhi | ;-O | 08:00 |
| garyk | ok, i will take a look soon | 08:00 |
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| changzhi | thanks a lot | 08:03 |
| garyk | changzhi: i think that this is a new feature so we should at least have a BP open for it. It would be nice if there were example also of how the ordering is done. | 08:04 |
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| changzhi | well | 08:06 |
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| arcimboldo | Need help troubleshooting L3 HA, the VM can't talk to the router IP | 08:18 |
| arcimboldo | I have 5 controller nodes, VM can talk to the dhcp interface, but from the dhcp namespace I can't ping the IP of the gateway | 08:18 |
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| arcimboldo | on all the keepalived configuration file I see "state BACKUP" | 08:19 |
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| arcimboldo | the GW ip is assigned to an host, which is not the host I see when I run neutron port-show on the port of the gateway | 08:19 |
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| changzhi | garyk: ping | 08:34 |
| changzhi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1218629 | 08:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1218629 in neutron "dns order should be honored" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to changzhi (changzhi) | 08:34 |
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| garyk | yeah, i see that. but it is a feature | 08:36 |
| garyk | so i think that we need a blueprint for this. | 08:36 |
| garyk | can you please opena blueprint and add that to the commit message | 08:36 |
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| garyk | changbl: i understand what you are doing. i just think that when we release liberty people need to know about the change, hence the request for the BP | 08:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramanjaneya Reddy Palleti proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Support CLI changes for QoS (2/2). https://review.openstack.org/198277 | 08:39 |
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| changzhi | garyk: BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/keep-dns-nameserver-orderconsistency | 08:40 |
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| garyk | changzhi: thanks! | 08:41 |
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| changzhi | garyk: Should I write a spec? | 08:44 |
| changzhi | garyk: hi, Should I write a spec? | 08:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhi Chang proposed openstack/neutron: Keep dns nameserver order consistency https://review.openstack.org/199588 | 08:51 |
| changzhi | garyk: I have already upload new patch. ;-D | 08:52 |
| garyk | changzhi: thanks. will get back to this soon | 08:52 |
| changzhi | ok | 08:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhi Chang proposed openstack/neutron: Keep dns nameserver order consistency https://review.openstack.org/203542 | 09:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhi Chang proposed openstack/neutron: Keep dns nameserver order consistency https://review.openstack.org/199588 | 09:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Add Pluggable IPAM Backend Part 2 https://review.openstack.org/183099 | 09:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Unplug the VIF if dhcp port is deleted https://review.openstack.org/196927 | 09:58 |
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| * echirivella Hi everybody | 10:09 | |
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| blinky_ghost | hi all, can anybody tell me if neutron lbaas service is HA in Kilo? Thanks | 10:16 |
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| echirivella | blinky_ghost: I think yes | 10:23 |
| echirivella | blinky_ghost: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/Usecases | 10:23 |
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| blinky_ghost | echirivella: thanks | 10:25 |
| openstackgerrit | gongysh proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for setting active l3 agent for a give HA router https://review.openstack.org/201473 | 10:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | gongysh proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for setting active l3 agent for a give HA router https://review.openstack.org/201473 | 10:31 |
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| bzhao | Could someone help to confirm the bug? Thank you. | 10:34 |
| bzhao | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1467791 | 10:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1467791 in neutron "Specific ipv4 subnet to create port and return port contains ipv4 and ipv6 address" [Undecided,Opinion] | 10:34 |
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| pavel_bondar | hi, bzhao, I agree with scollins about 1467791, so it looks to me as expected behavior and not a bug | 10:40 |
| bzhao | Hi pavel_bondar, thank you very much,but if user just specify the ipv4 subnet as fixed-ip to create port, the returned info include ipv6 address, whether it may make users confused? Could you give some explain for it? Thank you | 10:43 |
| changzhi | mestery: please review https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/keep-dns-nameserver-orderconsistency | 10:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhi Chang proposed openstack/neutron: Add DNS and DHCP log into dhcp agent https://review.openstack.org/202855 | 10:47 |
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| zxen | bzhao: Hi | 10:50 |
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| bzhao | pavel_bondar:Hi pavel_bondar, thank you very much,but if user just specify the ipv4 subnet as fixed-ip to create port, the returned info include ipv6 address, whether it may make users confused? Could you give some explain for it? Thank you | 10:50 |
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| l6unchpa_ | Check your namespaces people...https://github.com/sky-shiny/namespaces | 11:13 |
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| pavel_bondar | bzhao: My guess it was done this way, because user can't change ipv6 address for auto-addressed subnet (it is generated from MAC), so ipv6 allocation for slaac subnet exists all the time during port existence. Probably someone here knows better answer for this question. | 11:19 |
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| ZZelle | HenryG, hi | 11:52 |
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| ZZelle | mestery, hi | 11:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Berezovsky Irena proposed openstack/neutron: Add documentation for SRIOV NIC agent (previously missing) https://review.openstack.org/202569 | 12:18 |
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| ekuris | otherwiseguy, are you here ? | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/neutron: Fix order of calls in update_port https://review.openstack.org/202549 | 12:20 |
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| sambetts | HenryG: ^^ can I get some eyes on the patch I just pushed, its blocking networking-cisco | 12:28 |
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| sambetts | haleyb: thanks for reviewing my patch, i've just updated it based on your comments :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202549/ | 12:29 |
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| bzhao6 | pavel_bondar:Thank you very much for your kindly help.I think the dev of this behavior may discuss this issue before they wrote code.Thank you again! | 12:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Enable pluggable IPAM implementation by default https://review.openstack.org/181023 | 12:38 |
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| wei-wang | Hi gus, anyone interest on this rfe: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1475834 ? | 12:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1475834 in neutron "RFE - Provide HasTimestamp in db.models_v2 and use it in nets, subnets, ports, fips and securitygroups" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Wei Wang (damon-devops) | 12:46 |
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| pc_m | kevinbenton: ping | 12:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/neutron: Fix a property comment in metadata_agent.ini file https://review.openstack.org/203632 | 13:13 |
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| mestery | ZZelle: hi there! | 13:40 |
| ZZelle | mestery, hi | 13:40 |
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| changzhi | amuller: ping | 13:41 |
| ZZelle | mestery, about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1468433, i am not sure the bug is closed | 13:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1468433 in neutron "Pre reference plugin code movement" [Critical,Fix committed] - Assigned to Cedric Brandily (cbrandily) | 13:41 |
| changzhi | ajo: ping | 13:41 |
| amuller | changzhi: yo | 13:41 |
| ZZelle | mestery, as the bug is referenced by https://review.openstack.org/195694/4 | 13:42 |
| changzhi | please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199588/ ;-) | 13:42 |
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| mestery | ZZelle: Good catch! I remembern ow Henry was going to use, I'll update the status, thakns! | 13:42 |
| changzhi | mestery: hi, this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199588/ should I write a spec? | 13:43 |
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| mestery | changzhi: You're basically talking about implementing priority ordering of DNS nameservers, right? I'm not sure that even needs a spec to be honest, but I'll approve the spec since it seems so simple. | 13:45 |
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| wei-wang | changzhi: I think so | 13:46 |
| regXboi | mestery: a spec or at least a devref may not be out of the question | 13:46 |
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| wei-wang | changzhi: mestery: we need bp only for notify we implement new feature | 13:46 |
| mestery | regXboi: To add an ordering for DNS nameserver? Seems trivial to me, devref would be good. | 13:46 |
| regXboi | mestery: just to ensure the history is captured in a place other than code | 13:46 |
| regXboi | mestery: you'd think it would be trivial, but the histories indicate otherwise :/ | 13:47 |
| * regXboi is a fan of devrefs :) | 13:47 | |
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| mestery | changzhi_: Can you ensure you add a devref as well? thanks! | 13:48 |
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| changzhi_ | mestery: of course! | 13:50 |
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| changzhi_ | mestery: i will add a devref ;-) | 13:50 |
| mestery | changzhi_: awesome | 13:51 |
| changzhi_ | mestery: i will call you when i finish it | 13:51 |
| mestery | changzhi_: thanks! | 13:52 |
| changzhi_ | mestery: welcome | 13:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhi Chang proposed openstack/neutron: Add DNS and DHCP log into dhcp agent https://review.openstack.org/202855 | 14:07 |
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| changzhi_ | mestery: hi, should i need to write a new rst file in devref? or add some contents into the old files? | 14:12 |
| mestery | changzhi_: If there is an old one, add to it, otherwise, a new one is fine. Thanks! | 14:12 |
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| changzhi_ | mestery: okay, there is nothing about dns nameservers in devref. i will write a new rst file. | 14:13 |
| changzhi_ | mestery: ;-) | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhi Chang proposed openstack/neutron: Keep dns nameserver order consistency https://review.openstack.org/199588 | 14:46 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: when are you in MN? | 14:47 |
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| changzhi | mestery: i have uploaded the devref. please review it | 14:48 |
| changzhi | mestery: and give me some comments. | 14:48 |
| mestery | changzhi: ack, thanks! | 14:49 |
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| sc68cal | anteaya: tomorrow morning | 14:51 |
| changzhi | mestery: ;-) | 14:51 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: cool | 14:52 |
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| Prabash | Hi I have configured a multi-node openstack setup | 14:59 |
| Prabash | but instances are not getting any IP | 14:59 |
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| Prabash | I can see no traffic on br-tunnel bridge on the compute node (nova) | 14:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Python 3: fix neutron.tests.unit.agent.dhcp.test_agent https://review.openstack.org/203690 | 15:01 |
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| Prabash | Below is the output of bridge flows in compute node | 15:01 |
| Prabash | ovs-ofctl dump-flows br-tunnel NXST_FLOW reply (xid=0x4): cookie=0x0, duration=709.652s, table=0, n_packets=1, n_bytes=90, idle_age=700, priority=0 actions=drop cookie=0x0, duration=708.805s, table=0, n_packets=0, n_bytes=0, idle_age=708, priority=1,in_port=3 actions=resubmit(,3) cookie=0x0, duration=709.704s, table=0, n_packets=0, n_bytes=0, idle_age=709, priority=1,in_port=1 actions=resubmit(,2) cookie=0x0, durati | 15:01 |
| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Call _ensure_default_security_group outside of transaction https://review.openstack.org/203384 | 15:02 |
| Prabash | cookie=0x0, duration=709.652s, table=0, n_packets=1, n_bytes=90, idle_age=700, priority=0 actions=drop | 15:02 |
| Prabash | there is drop | 15:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Python 3: fix neutron.tests.unit.agent.linux.test_async_process https://review.openstack.org/203691 | 15:02 |
| Prabash | is that the reason there is no traffic beyond br-tunnel | 15:03 |
| Prabash | please help | 15:03 |
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| Prabash | Hi can somebody please help on the neutron issue | 15:04 |
| Prabash | all the the three nodes are configured on a single network card | 15:04 |
| Prabash | Why is ovs-ofctl dump-flows br-tunnel output shows drop on the first line | 15:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Create grenade plugin https://review.openstack.org/203159 | 15:06 |
| pc_m | mestery: Hi | 15:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhi Chang proposed openstack/neutron: Keep dns nameserver order consistency https://review.openstack.org/199588 | 15:10 |
| changzhi | mestery: hi, please check it again ;-) | 15:10 |
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| otherwiseguy | rossella_s: thanks for the heads up on my db_list -> db_find patch. do you think it is worth trying to change in Nova as well and the various syncing versions issues that would come along with it? I'm not overly attached to the patch, just thought I'd do a POC to see if it worked. | 15:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wei Wang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix note in devref/contribute.rst https://review.openstack.org/203697 | 15:23 |
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| rossella_s | otherwiseguy the idea of your patch is good but it seems a lot of work . You mention the syncing version issues...TBH it seems a big effort and I am not sure how much we will benefit | 15:25 |
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| changzhi_ | garyk: hi, i have re uploaded this patch by your comment: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202855/ | 15:25 |
| changzhi_ | garyk: please review it | 15:26 |
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| garyk | changzhi_: please add DocImpact to the commit message | 15:28 |
| garyk | this is to help the guys documenting the version | 15:28 |
| changzhi_ | sorry, could you give me a example about "DocImpact"? | 15:29 |
| otherwiseguy | rossella_s: Yeah, that is my fear. The code is a lot simpler, and it is a much more efficient, less error handling needed because you are guaranteed to have a consistent set of ports for the entire operation...but the other way mostly works too. Kind of surprised that if Nova is aware that neutron is being used that it wouldn't use neutron to plug the port. | 15:29 |
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| otherwiseguy | but my nova knowledge is pretty non-existent. | 15:30 |
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| changzhi_ | garyk: i will upload new patch soon. thx | 15:32 |
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| rossella_s | otherwiseguy I am not an expert either...there's no other way to achieve the same goal? can the same transaction be used? | 15:33 |
| otherwiseguy | rossella_s: the problem is that there is no way to use the results of a 'get the ports' query in a 'get the interfaces' query in the same transaction (at least for ovs-vsctl-based implementation). | 15:33 |
| otherwiseguy | There are no back references from interface->port->bridge. | 15:33 |
| rossella_s | otherwiseguy :( | 15:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhi Chang proposed openstack/neutron: Add DNS and DHCP log into dhcp agent https://review.openstack.org/202855 | 15:34 |
| otherwiseguy | With the ovsdb native version, you could come up with a 'GetBridgeInterfaces' command that ran in a single transaction, though. | 15:34 |
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| otherwiseguy | or really I guess a ListBridgeInterfacesCommand since we are pulling back multiple columns. | 15:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhi Chang proposed openstack/neutron: Add DNS and DHCP log into dhcp agent https://review.openstack.org/202855 | 15:36 |
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| sbelous | amuller_, yamamoto, hi guys. I uploaded new patch-set with functional test of dhcp-agent, waiting for your review ;) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136834/ | 15:37 |
| pc_m | armax: ping | 15:37 |
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| pc_m | mestery: armax: Can you guys review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203201/ which adds some debugging into tox_install.sh? This is for running VPN functional tests for Neutron commits - I'm not seeing it pick up the Neutron patch set, so want to add more logging/debug to script. | 15:45 |
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| wei-wang | emagana: HenryG: hi, I upload a new patch about devref/contribute.rst, welcome review :-) | 15:45 |
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| banix | @kevinbenton are you here by any chance? question on ovs plugin | 15:52 |
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| banix | So this is the question i have, i wchange the segmentation id range; what neutron services do i need to restart? I think only the neutron server itself. Is that correct? Any reason to restart the ovs agent? | 15:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce usage data tracking for Neutron https://review.openstack.org/188883 | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Add DB support for resource usage tracking https://review.openstack.org/188608 | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Devref for quotas https://review.openstack.org/190798 | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Reservations support https://review.openstack.org/163659 | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Enable resource usage tracking for reference plugins. https://review.openstack.org/188884 | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Create packages for quota modules https://review.openstack.org/188618 | 15:55 |
| banix | s/wchange/want to change/ | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Add plural names for quota resources https://review.openstack.org/194867 | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/neutron: Add documentation for SRIOV NIC agent (previously missing) https://review.openstack.org/202569 | 15:56 |
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| jlibosva | irenab: hi | 16:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce usage data tracking for Neutron https://review.openstack.org/188883 | 16:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Devref for quotas https://review.openstack.org/190798 | 16:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Reservations support https://review.openstack.org/163659 | 16:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Enable resource usage tracking for reference plugins. https://review.openstack.org/188884 | 16:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Create packages for quota modules https://review.openstack.org/188618 | 16:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Add plural names for quota resources https://review.openstack.org/194867 | 16:11 |
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| armax | pc_m: pong | 16:18 |
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| pc_m | armax: Hi. Wondering if you can review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203201/ for me? It is to add debug to a script that is used during VPN functional testing of Neutron commits. | 16:20 |
| armax | pc_m: looking | 16:20 |
| pc_m | armax: The job is not using the Neutron patch set, as expected, so I added some debug to figure out what is going wrong. | 16:20 |
| pc_m | armax: The test commit is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196149/ that does a dummy Neutron commit to test the VPN job. | 16:21 |
| dougwig | pc_m: do you see the -x output? doesn't tox hide it? | 16:21 |
| pc_m | armax: Appreciate it. Trying to figure out what is going on. | 16:21 |
| dougwig | pc_m: plus, you shouldn't need to wait for a merge to use it. make your neutron review Depends-On that debug review. | 16:22 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: I got no output on 196149, related to running tox_install.sh. | 16:22 |
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| dougwig | pc_m: i don't think you will with -x, either. | 16:22 |
| pc_m | dougwig: Really? So it'll use that patch in VPN repo, when running the Neutron patch's tests? | 16:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | dougwig: moo | 16:23 |
| dougwig | pc_m: yes. it'll merge them together before running jobs. | 16:23 |
| dougwig | Sam-I-Am: cow? | 16:23 |
| pc_m | dougwig: Well I added echo's too. | 16:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | dougwig: yeah. so, good news on the neutron starter kit thing. | 16:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | dougwig: you going to mid-cycle ops? | 16:23 |
| pc_m | dougwig: Bottom line is that it is using the latest from master and not the neutron patch. | 16:23 |
| dougwig | pc_m: tox redirects stdout and err into a /tmp file while building the venv. | 16:23 |
| dougwig | Sam-I-Am: the ops meetup in palo alto? yes, i'll be there. | 16:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | dougwig: yeah, cool. me too. | 16:24 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: So will I see the echo's in the log of the run? If not, any suggestions on how to debug this, as it is not getting the patch. | 16:25 |
| dougwig | pc_m: no, you will not. your gate hook can cat the /tmp file, to get the output. | 16:26 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: OK, I can try to tweak it some more and then have the Neutron commit depend on this one. | 16:27 |
| pc_m | dougwig: Can you look at my DevStack plugin commit for VPN https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202985/1 ? | 16:27 |
| dougwig | pc_m: yep | 16:28 |
| pc_m | dougwig: Needs another +2 from drivers team. | 16:28 |
| pc_m | dougwig: Thanks! | 16:28 |
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| banix | @rkukura Hi bob, have a second for an ovs ml2 question? | 16:30 |
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| banix | @amuller Assaf, are you around for a quick question? | 16:58 |
| amuller | banix: just on my way out for lunch | 16:59 |
| amuller | banix: you can email me if you won't be on in 30-60 mins? | 16:59 |
| amuller | or we can talk then | 16:59 |
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| banix | amuller: will ping you in an hour? | 16:59 |
| amuller | banix: sounds good | 16:59 |
| banix | or when you are back pls ping me | 16:59 |
| banix | thanks amuller | 16:59 |
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| tellesnobrega | hi, i'm working on a devstack setup and i don't want to have ipv6, is there a way to block ipv6 from being used in devstack? | 17:01 |
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| banix | @tellesnobrega look out @sc68cal is coming after you :) ^^ | 17:02 |
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| tellesnobrega | banix: is that a patch under review? | 17:09 |
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| banix | @tellesnobrega just wanted to inform @sc68cal of your question as he would know the answer. | 17:15 |
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| tellesnobrega | banix: thanks :) | 17:15 |
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| armax | HenryG: ping | 17:32 |
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| kevinbenton | banix: yeah, neutron server is the only thing you need to restart | 18:09 |
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| kevinbenton | banix: and that won't affect existing allocated networks | 18:09 |
| kevinbenton | pc_m: hey | 18:10 |
| pc_m | kevinbenton: hi | 18:10 |
| amuller | banix: pong | 18:10 |
| kevinbenton | pc_m: what's up? | 18:10 |
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| pc_m | kevinbenton: Looking for cores to review the devstack plugin enable for vpn tests that I did. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202985/1 | 18:10 |
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| pc_m | kevinbenton: Need driver's team cores to review. I created devstack plugin for VPN, this is to enable in tests, and then next will be to pull old vpn code from DevStack repo. | 18:12 |
| kevinbenton | pc_m: ah, did you try dougwig? i would be more comfortable with him reviewing since he did this for lbaas | 18:12 |
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| kevinbenton | pc_m: this looks okay, but it's hard for me to tell if it's the right branch setup, etc | 18:13 |
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| banix | @rkukura @amuller @kevinbenton thanks for responding; I bugged you all for the same question. I want to change the segmentation id range on my ml2 OVS with GRE neutron and want to know what services i need to restart | 18:13 |
| pc_m | yeah, he replied a little bit ago. I was looking for people in the morning. So, it's cool. | 18:13 |
| dougwig | pc_m: drivers aren't supercores anymore, afaik | 18:13 |
| amuller | banix: as Kevin said just the server | 18:13 |
| kevinbenton | banix: just the server. the agents don't know anything about that config | 18:14 |
| pc_m | dougwig: I thought they were for VPN. If not, then who are the set of cores to review VPN repo changes? | 18:14 |
| openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: DB, IPAM & RPC changes for IPv6 Prefix Delegation https://review.openstack.org/158697 | 18:15 |
| dougwig | pc_m: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/502,members | 18:15 |
| pc_m | dougwig: Ah, so some were moved into vpn core list. Thanks! | 18:15 |
| banix | : @rkukura @amuller @kevinbenton so as Kevin is suggesting i thought restarting the neutron server will be all i need to do; exactly; so would restarting the server requires restarting the agent? I mean would restarting the server cause loss of connections to my VMs? My understanding is that there shouldnt be any loss of connectivity but I want to make sure I am not missing anything. | 18:16 |
| amuller | banix: no the server has nothing to do with your VMs | 18:16 |
| pc_m | kevinbenton: so you can ignore. | 18:16 |
| amuller | banix: you will not see any data plane interruption | 18:16 |
| kevinbenton | banix: that's right, restarting the server shouldn't impact the agents (other than new vm setup of course) | 18:17 |
| banix | @amuller @kevinbenton thanks for confirming this. | 18:18 |
| dougwig | pc_m: i see three patches. have they all be tested together? | 18:18 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: which three? There was one to create the devstack plugin. That is upstreamed. There is this one, to enable devstack plugin for tests. There is another one that is for removing VPN setup for the devstack repo (on hold). | 18:20 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: So for right now, there should only be one commit (for devstack). | 18:20 |
| pc_m | dougwig: I have another pair of commits for testing VPN functional tests on neutron changes (one for VPN repo as debug, one for Neutron to test the experimental job). | 18:21 |
| pc_m | dougwig: And yet another patch for trying to enable grenade plugin for VPN, which isn't working, according to the last run. Not sure what I'm missing for that. | 18:22 |
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| dougwig | pc_m: ok, just trying to understand the ordering, and why you're feeling so much urgency on 202985 | 18:23 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: partly because I want to get the devstack work done, and partly because it's making development difficult trying to switch between using devstack plugin and not. | 18:24 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: Just would like to get it upstreamed, so I don't have to keep juggling 5 commits. | 18:25 |
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| * pc_m trying to keep all the patches straight. | 18:26 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Add RPC command and delete if last FIP on Agent https://review.openstack.org/194446 | 18:41 |
| amuller | mestery: I don't think it was correct to ask for a BP here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/keep-dns-nameserver-orderconsistency | 18:43 |
| amuller | it's a bug fix, it's not adding new functionality? | 18:43 |
| mestery | amuller: I didn't ask foir a BP | 18:43 |
| mestery | I told them to write a devref | 18:43 |
| mestery | amuller: Where did you see me asking for a BP? | 18:43 |
| amuller | oh I assumed you did, it's just easy blaming you | 18:43 |
| amuller | probably should have checked :) | 18:44 |
| mestery | lol | 18:44 |
| amuller | garyk: ^ | 18:44 |
| amuller | mestery: I apologize | 18:44 |
| mestery | amuller: no worries :) | 18:44 |
| amuller | garyk: imo blueprints are for new functionality while that patch is fixing a bug. I think if you wanted a more comprehensive discussion then a mailing list thread would have been more effective | 18:45 |
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| amuller | garyk: I just want to minimize the hell we put authors through sometimes with all of these processes | 18:45 |
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| vishwanathj | Anybody know where I can look up the rationale for changing the file name from HEAD to HEADS at https://github.com/openstack/neutron/tree/master/neutron/db/migration/alembic_migrations/versions Thanks | 18:54 |
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| amuller | vishwanathj: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194198/ | 18:55 |
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| vishwanathj | amuller, appreciate the prompt response | 18:56 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: hi | 19:25 |
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| rkukura | banix: I agree restarting neutron-server should be all that is necessary. Also note that changing the segmentation_id range for your tenant networks will not impact existing networks, only new ones created after the config is changed. | 19:52 |
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| johnbelamaric | mestery: ping | 20:16 |
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| mestery | johnbelamaric: howdy! | 20:22 |
| johnbelamaric | hi. just wanted to give you a heads up that I am going to propose a networking-infoblox repo for our IPAM driver | 20:22 |
| mestery | nice! Add me as a reviewer and I'll do the necessary | 20:23 |
| mestery | Thanks for the heads up! | 20:23 |
| johnbelamaric | Ok. thanks Kyle | 20:23 |
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| amuller | rkukura: Did you happen to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1458890? | 20:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1458890 in neutron "Add segment support to Neutron" [Undecided,Triaged] | 20:28 |
| amuller | rkukura: Doesn't ML2 already model multi-segment networks? | 20:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Decentralize the managemement of service providers https://review.openstack.org/202207 | 20:28 |
| amuller | as well as multi-level binding | 20:28 |
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| johnbelamaric | mestery: ok, submitted. hopefully I did that right :) thanks again | 20:29 |
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| mestery | johnbelamaric: Looks ok, do you also have the project-config patch which will create the repo? | 20:30 |
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| mestery | amuller: We can't solve multi-segment networks with ML2 because not all plugins are ML2 drivers, it has to be solved above ML2 in the logical model. | 20:30 |
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| mestery | johnbelamaric: I found it, nevermind :) | 20:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define fullstack router/network/subnet management fixture https://review.openstack.org/193100 | 20:31 |
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| amuller | mestery: gotcha | 20:32 |
| mestery | amuller: For example, OVN is now a core plugin and not an ML2 driver, and there are others. | 20:32 |
| ZZelle_ | kevinbenton, hi | 20:34 |
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| amuller | mestery: in Carl's email (He's offline so I can't ask him), do you know if that router he creates in step 4 is an actual neutron router using the L3 agent in the built in impl.? | 20:38 |
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| kevinbenton | ZZelle: hey | 20:40 |
| mestery | amuller: I'm afraid I don't. He's flying to MSP to attend the nova mid-cycle with me, I'll ask him tomorrow :) | 20:41 |
| ZZelle_ | kevinbenton, could/should we remove neutron.agent.linux.ebtables_* modules (they are not used)? | 20:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivar Lazzaro proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose Apic ML2 mechanism driver https://review.openstack.org/193365 | 20:43 |
| sc68cal | ZZelle_: kevinbenton is on PTO I think | 20:43 |
| kevinbenton | ZZelle: I think so but I need to chat with Mark about it. He mentioned something about getting better generic ebtables support | 20:44 |
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| ZZelle_ | kevinbenton, ok | 20:45 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: I am, but I'm going to be online for the meeting in case there are any issues :) | 20:45 |
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| mestery | kevinbenton: I'll make sure to line some up for you | 20:46 |
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| kevinbenton | mestery: my beer is empty. It can't get worse than that | 20:49 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: be careful waht you're wishing for | 20:50 |
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| sc68cal | kevinbenton: nooo - you should be on vacation - more specifically taking aweome pictures and posting them on twitter so I can look at them | 20:52 |
| rkukura | amuller: You are correct - ML2 already does multi-segment networks and multi-level bindings. Exposing some of this in the API for providers might have some value, but I’m not sure we would want to require all plugins to support that model. | 20:55 |
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| amuller | rkukura: mestery: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1458890 is *really* conflating the problem statement with the solution | 20:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1458890 in neutron "Add segment support to Neutron" [Undecided,Triaged] | 20:55 |
| amuller | it's very hard to participate in that discussion | 20:55 |
| mestery | amuller: I've yet to read a spec which doesn't have that problem, so it's not a unique issue | 20:55 |
| rkukura | amuller: I have not read that yet - will need to set aside some time for it | 20:56 |
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| amuller | rkukura: I think you'll have a lot to say there | 20:56 |
| amuller | rkukura: Carl posted an email titled "Representing a networks connected byrouters" to openstack-dev | 20:56 |
| amuller | for more info | 20:56 |
| mestery | ML2 multi-segment networks are exposed to users, which is not what operators want | 20:56 |
| mestery | OR am I wrong there? | 20:56 |
| rkukura | mestery: Only exposed by provider atributes, which are admin-only. | 20:57 |
| mestery | OK | 20:57 |
| mestery | But as I said, this needs to be solved above ML2 since we have non-ML2 plugins (new ones even) | 20:57 |
| regXboi | so folks, this reads a bit like ignoring customer input | 20:58 |
| regXboi | I'm sure I'm misreading it... | 20:58 |
| mestery | regXboi: You're assuming we've a vendor then | 20:58 |
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| mestery | :) | 20:58 |
| mestery | *we're | 20:58 |
| rkukura | mestery, amuller: I’m sure there is plenty of room to improve the multiprovider extension that ML2 uses for this (which other plugins are free to implement), but I think this should be the starting point. | 20:58 |
| regXboi | mestery: not precisely - but the operators are folks we should be listening to | 20:58 |
| amuller | regXboi: We're trying to decipher the input | 20:58 |
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| mestery | rkukura: I'd like to sync with carl_baldwin before we make that assumption | 20:58 |
| mestery | regXboi: We are, I'm not sure how you're impying we're not | 20:59 |
| mestery | Anyways, meeting time | 20:59 |
| rkukura | mestery: Which assumption? | 20:59 |
| amuller | regXboi: Because it's very vague and is confusing the solution with the problem statement | 20:59 |
| kevinbenton | mestery: we can solve it with segment types though. If a plugin chooses not to implement that extension it's their problem | 20:59 |
| mestery | regXboi: that ml2 multi-provider is the starting point for network segment/routed network support | 20:59 |
| regXboi | I didn't ask that, rkukura did | 21:00 |
| regXboi | is an email to the operators ML a reasonable step? | 21:01 |
| regXboi | and just ask? | 21:01 |
| rkukura | mestery: ML2’s segments are by definition segments of an L2 network. This routed network thing may or may not fit that model (or even the neutron model ;) | 21:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | howdy | 21:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mestery: made it :) | 21:02 |
| mestery | Sam-I-Am: #openstack-meeting | 21:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, oops | 21:02 |
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| regXboi | gus: ping? | 22:17 |
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| regXboi | gus: ping? | 22:58 |
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| regXboi | gus: ping? | 23:32 |
| gus | ? | 23:33 |
| gus | regXboi: ? | 23:34 |
| regXboi | gus: good morning - | 23:34 |
| regXboi | was wondering what the status of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155631/ is? | 23:35 |
| regXboi | the topic of pyroute2 came up during today's neutron IRC and (iirc) kevinbenton pointed me at you and this patch | 23:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Ritesh Anand proposed openstack/neutron: Added test cases for DVR L3 schedulers. https://review.openstack.org/188157 | 23:36 |
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| gus | yeah, just reading the meeting scrollback. | 23:40 |
| gus | so the motivation is speed? | 23:40 |
| regXboi | pretty much | 23:40 |
| regXboi | I'm not entirely happy with the security underpinnings, but that may be too large a windmill to tilt at | 23:41 |
| gus | fwiw, I get something like 20x speedup on calling across my privsep boundary (unix socket) and doing a trivial netlink read (via pyroute2) vs simply execing the equivalent "ip addr show" (with no rootwrap of any sort). | 23:41 |
| regXboi | and that's why when I saw what your patch was doing, I wanted to see what its status was and what I could do to help move it along | 23:42 |
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| gus | status: it works (or at least did when I last touched it). The decision was to move the core mechanism into a new oslo.privsep, and then rebase the neutron patch on top of that. | 23:43 |
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| regXboi | ok, so the next question is what's the status of oslo.privsep? | 23:44 |
| gus | getting it into oslo required actually writing a spec, and other new-project boilerplate - and that's what I'm up to. | 23:44 |
| regXboi | ok | 23:44 |
| gus | If there was some urgency in neutron, there's no reason we couldn't bypass the oslo bit and use it now - with the knowledge that we'd want to rebase it again later. | 23:44 |
| regXboi | well, I'm wondering if we couldn't use it for other places where pyroute2 could make sense | 23:45 |
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| regXboi | for example bridge_lib.py | 23:45 |
| gus | My motivation is primarily security (trying to make a privelege separation mechanism that is easy to use), with speed a nice side-effect. | 23:45 |
| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: ovs_lib: Fix native implementation of db_list https://review.openstack.org/202505 | 23:46 |
| regXboi | I'm +1 behind priv sep | 23:46 |
| gus | regXboi: we certainly could/should. | 23:46 |
| gus | I figure anything that works with CAP_NET_ADMIN/netlink should just be done via netlink. | 23:46 |
| regXboi | gus: so I spent some time late last week looking through the code base and the result was this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/use-of-shell-in-neutron | 23:47 |
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| gus | There's some awkward things like actually creating/destroying net namespaces that _might_ want to stay via sudo. | 23:47 |
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| regXboi | and it looked like there were some other places where I thought we ought to look at pyroute2 | 23:47 |
| gus | nice. | 23:47 |
| gus | As I think about it now, I think the shell bit is all about sudo. | 23:48 |
| regXboi | in a lot of places, yes | 23:48 |
| regXboi | but not all | 23:48 |
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| gus | If we move away from shell / cli-tools, then we need some other way to hold the required privileges. | 23:48 |
| regXboi | I was starting to get there as well, and so this patch was a bit of "hey, the work is already done!!!" | 23:49 |
| gus | Either we run the neutron-agent (or whatever daemon) as root (or similar) directly, or we do some privilege separation (privsep takes this approach). | 23:49 |
| regXboi | I prefer privsep | 23:49 |
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| regXboi | let's see if Kyle is back on line in a little bit - he is at soccer, but I'm hoping he will be back later | 23:51 |
| gus | So do you have some idea of which of those shell calls will have the most performance impact? (ie: what we should prioritise first?) | 23:51 |
| regXboi | well, ip_lib.py was the obvious first step | 23:51 |
| gus | yep. | 23:51 |
| regXboi | IIRC any calls to show the forwarding table are the next step | 23:51 |
| regXboi | I thought I saw some, but let me double check | 23:52 |
| regXboi | yeah, down in the linuxbridge_neutron_agent | 23:52 |
| regXboi | so I think bridge_lib.py is the next obvious place to go | 23:53 |
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| gus | ok, so let's just do it then. I'll stop procrastinating ;) and send a first revision of the privsep spec off later today. | 23:56 |
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| regXboi | works for me | 23:56 |
| gus | Then I need to work out what needs to be done to start a new oslo project (I haven't created one from scratch before).. | 23:57 |
| regXboi | ok | 23:57 |
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| gus | The oslo folks were very supportive of all this at Vancouver, so there shouldn't be any problems once we get the git changes together. | 23:57 |
| vadivelp | hi | 23:58 |
| regXboi | ok, I'm happy to pitch it where it makes sense | 23:58 |
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| vadivelp | how can i contact kyle mestery (Neutron's PTL) | 23:59 |
| gus | regXboi: yep, thanks - I'll take you up on that ;) | 23:59 |
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| amuller | vadivelp: He's called 'mestery' on this channel | 23:59 |
| gus | vadivelp: Either by email or saying "hey mestery!" on this channel and then waiting a bit. | 23:59 |
| regXboi | gus: done and done - I'm in US CDT, but I'm around most evenings (AM your time) so we can sync up | 23:59 |
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| vadivelp | Hi mestery, | 23:59 |
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