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| armax | jroll: gate-tempest-dsvm-ironic-pxe_ipa-nv | 02:22 |
| armax | jroll: any idea why it’s busted? | 02:22 |
| armax | kevinbenton suggested I’d harass you | 02:22 |
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| claudiub | hello. I have a question. Is there a way I can migrate my instances from a neutron network to another? (possibly to another neutron network with another network_type) | 02:32 |
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| jroll | armax: it's intermittently busted, for some reason more now than before, we've been working on it | 02:56 |
| armax | jroll: ok, thanks | 02:56 |
| jroll | armax: bug 1393099 | 02:56 |
| openstack | bug 1393099 in OpenStack-Gate "test_baremetal_server_ops fails with timeout waiting for provision_state to change" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1393099 | 02:56 |
| armax | jroll: I’ll keep an eye on it | 02:57 |
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| jroll | armax: thanks, don't let us stop you all from getting stuff done | 02:57 |
| armax | jroll: sure, give us a heads up if there’s anything we can do | 02:58 |
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| claudiub | hello. I have a question. Is there a way I can migrate my instances from a neutron network to another? (possibly to another neutron network with another network_type) | 03:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | claudiub: its just a port. plug another one in thats on another network | 03:50 |
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| claudiub | Sam-I-Am: so, the question I've received is if there's any simple way to change the network type of a neutron network from gre to vlan. preferrably, without destroying the already existing ports or other network configurations. any idea about this? | 03:56 |
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| claudiub | unplugging a port and plugging in another one might lead to some errors / unwanted behaviour, as the mac address is different. | 03:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont think there's a way to change a network type | 03:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it would be a provider attribute... which you can't change after the fact (iirc) | 04:02 |
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| claudiub_ | Sam-I-Am: hm, well, that's unfortunate i guess.. but it sounds to me like something that shouldn't be impossible to do. | 04:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | its a lot of stuff to change | 04:04 |
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| claudiub_ | it would be great to be able to "live-migrate" ports from a network to another. :D | 04:07 |
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| claudiub_ | Sam-I-Am: anyways, thanks for answering my questions, greatly appreciate it. :) | 04:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | claudiub_: come up with a spec :) | 04:18 |
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| dasm | good day all | 07:32 |
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| vikram_ | amotoki: ping | 08:19 |
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| vikram_ | yamamoto: ping | 08:31 |
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| vikram_ | yamamoto: i need lated openstack allinone vm image.. do you know where i can find it? | 08:31 |
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| vikram_ | *latest | 08:31 |
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| yamamoto | vikram_: no idea | 08:32 |
| vikram_ | yamamoto: ok.. | 08:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Removing adv svcs dependencies on neutron https://review.openstack.org/254368 | 09:18 |
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| mhickey | Good morning All | 09:26 |
| matrohon | yamamoto, hi | 09:27 |
| matrohon | rossella_s, hi | 09:27 |
| rossella_s | matrohon, hi | 09:27 |
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| matrohon | rossella_s, I was looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175383/ | 09:28 |
| yamamoto | matrohon: hi | 09:28 |
| matrohon | rossella_s, I might have time to work on this patch | 09:28 |
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| matrohon | yamamoto, rossella_s : vivek doesn't seem to work on it anymore | 09:29 |
| mhickey | Anyone know if there is a problem in gate with ironic? "gate-tempest-dsvm-ironic-agent_ssh" seems to be failing because it cannot find 'ironic'. | 09:29 |
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| rossella_s | matrohon, that's great! anyway you should contact vivek, since he's the author | 09:30 |
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| matrohon | rossella_s, yamamoto : however I'd like to submit an alternative implementation : I'd like to store the information of the migration (previous host) in a more general table | 09:31 |
| yamamoto | matrohon: and anil-venkata, who seems to take it over recently | 09:31 |
| matrohon | yamamoto, rossella_s : I'll contact them | 09:31 |
| matrohon | rossella_s, yamamoto : I was wondering if I can store this information in a existing structure of the current tables? prot_profile? vif_details? | 09:32 |
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| rossella_s | matrohon, mmm those fields are not meant for that | 09:33 |
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| matrohon | rossella_s, Actually, Id like to introduce a new status "MIGRATING", and store the previous host somewhere in the db | 09:34 |
| rossella_s | matrohon, we talked about it, I am not against it | 09:35 |
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| rossella_s | matrohon, going back to the first point, vif_details is a dict, you can bend it a bit and store the previous host there | 09:37 |
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| rossella_s | matrohon, why do you need the previous host? | 09:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kobi Samoray proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: (WIP) Add support X-Forwarded-For header https://review.openstack.org/255965 | 09:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kobi Samoray proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add support X-Forwarded-For header https://review.openstack.org/255965 | 09:39 |
| matrohon | rossella_s, I'll try to get rid of storing the previous host in DB, but there might be some races. | 09:40 |
| matrohon | rossella_s, I'll keep investigating with flow | 09:40 |
| matrohon | rossella_s, I'll keep investigating with call flow | 09:41 |
| rossella_s | matrohon, thanks, keep me posted | 09:41 |
| matrohon | rossella_s : ok | 09:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Add option for nova endpoint type https://review.openstack.org/254900 | 10:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Remove floatingip addresses from router device https://review.openstack.org/246855 | 10:12 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: ping | 11:19 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: hi. | 11:19 |
| mhickey | ihrachys: Hi | 11:20 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: Patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255944/ seems to be still waiting even though its depends-on has merged? | 11:20 |
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| mhickey | Does it need a push? | 11:21 |
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| ihrachys | mhickey: rechecked, let's see whether it will help | 11:22 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: ok, thanks | 11:23 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: something went wrong with W+1, I reset it and it seems to run in gate now | 11:23 |
| mhickey | ihrachys: ok, great. things moving along... :) | 11:24 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: Hi again | 11:45 |
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| raginbajin | I am seeing a lot of errors from neutron like this - ovs-ofctl: /var/run/openvswitch/br-tun.mgmt: failed to open socket (Protocol error) | 12:38 |
| raginbajin | Can anyone give me a little help on this? I am running VXLAN for tenant networks. | 12:38 |
| raginbajin | I'm wondering if there is some sort of limit on OVS and what it can do. | 12:39 |
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| jschwarz | raginbajin, can you pastebin the output of 'ls /var/run/openvswitch/' for us? | 12:43 |
| raginbajin | sure | 12:43 |
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| raginbajin | jschwarz: http://pastebin.com/9V95Pw5z | 12:44 |
| raginbajin | For the most part the node works, and now we are seeing more of and more of our hosts get these errors. | 12:44 |
| raginbajin | the service is running and the socket files are there. | 12:44 |
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| raginbajin | This is what it looks like in the log right before the error happens: http://pastebin.com/Hh1Vui7k | 12:47 |
| raginbajin | It looks to be updating the security groups and eventually hits there error and we have instances that may or may not be trying to be built at the same time. | 12:47 |
| raginbajin | It happens for mod-flows, del-flows, add-flows | 12:48 |
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| jschwarz | raginbajin, so I seems to me like this is an OVS error unrelated to neutron | 12:56 |
| jschwarz | raginbajin, since the command that is failing is ovs-related (ovs-ofctl) | 12:56 |
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| jschwarz | raginbajin, I'd check with the OVS guys (#openvswitch) | 12:56 |
| raginbajin | Yeah I've been trying to get help there and haven't gotten any traction. I'm wondering if all the security group updates are filling up any sort of "queue" that exists. | 12:57 |
| raginbajin | and if anyone else has run into issues like this once they get to a certain size. I think that is an important value to know if you are trying to deploy OVS with neutron | 12:57 |
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| raginbajin | Does there need to be an continuous update of security groups? | 12:59 |
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| raginbajin | jschwarz: Do you know of a setting that may turn down or make security group updates on-demand? | 13:01 |
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| jschwarz | raginbajin, afraid not :( sorry | 13:03 |
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| raginbajin | jschwarz Thought so.. Thanks, I'll try to see if I can get some help from the openvswitch guys. | 13:04 |
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| itzikb | garyk: hi, Remember about the IPAM issue ? You suggested https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223123/. Anyway - I don't have the problem anymore. tnx | 13:14 |
| matrohon | mestery, tmorin : hi | 13:14 |
| tmorin | hi matrohon, mestery | 13:15 |
| matrohon | mestery, We answered your question on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/1525279 | 13:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1525279 in neutron "Request Liberty release for networking-bgpvpn" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Kyle Mestery (mestery) | 13:15 |
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| garyk | itzikb: ok, thanks for the update | 13:17 |
| itzikb | garyk: Sorry it took me so long | 13:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Linuxbridge DVR https://review.openstack.org/255174 | 13:19 |
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| garyk | itzikb: :). it takes like a month to get a review upstream so i am patient (if one is lucky) | 13:21 |
| itzikb | garyk: 1 month is great .. :-) | 13:21 |
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| mestery | matrohon tmorin: Thanks! | 13:30 |
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| mhickey | garyk: Hi | 13:32 |
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| garyk | mhickey: whats up? | 13:33 |
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| mhickey | garyk: Sorry to ask again but can i get you to review last devstack patch for config bp? I had to spin it again yday. | 13:34 |
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| garyk | sure what is the link | 13:35 |
| mhickey | garyk: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253530/ | 13:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mornings | 13:38 |
| raginbajin | Has anyone tested using OVS 2.4 and neutron.. Are there any issues running it on Juno/Kilo releases. | 13:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | raginbajin: the liberty packages on ubuntu and rhel/cent include 2.4 and seem to work fine | 13:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | so i'm thinking they'll work on earlier versions of openstack | 13:40 |
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| raginbajin | Sam-I-Am: Oh that's awesome. great. I'm going to test it out anyways, but I figure I would just asked the experts about it before hand. | 13:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | "experts" :) | 13:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent had coffee yet | 13:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its snowing like madness out | 13:42 |
| mhickey | garyk: thanks. hopefully all will move now! :) | 13:45 |
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| garyk | hope so… | 13:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dariusz Smigiel proposed openstack/neutron-specs: WIP: Moving to Keystone v3 Blueprint https://review.openstack.org/257362 | 13:51 |
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| matrohon | mestery : still around? | 13:54 |
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| mestery | matrohon: Ack sir | 13:54 |
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| matrohon | mestery : did you already create the stable/liberty branch for bgpvpn? | 13:55 |
| mestery | matrohon: I'm looking now | 13:55 |
| matrohon | mestery, because we'd like to modify the base commit for this branch | 13:55 |
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| mestery | matrohon: I was just looking at your networking-bagpipe stable backports | 13:55 |
| mestery | matrohon: Ah, ok, I'll wait | 13:55 |
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| mestery | matrohon: Just ping me here when you've got it finalzed | 13:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | are we having a 'normal' meeting in 3 minutes? | 13:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | or is it still post-milestone | 13:58 |
| matrohon | mestery : I've updated the bug with the desired commit-id : https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/1525279 | 13:58 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1525279 in neutron "Request Liberty release for networking-bgpvpn" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Kyle Mestery (mestery) | 13:58 |
| mestery | matrohon: Thanks! | 13:58 |
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| matrohon | mestery : it should be the head of our master branch | 13:59 |
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| mestery | matrohon: Branch created! | 14:00 |
| matrohon | mestery : thanks | 14:00 |
| mestery | matrohon: Doing the release now | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Dariusz Smigiel proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Moving to Keystone v3 API https://review.openstack.org/257362 | 14:00 |
| mestery | matrohon: Just to confirm, you want me to tag 3.0.0 on the stable/liberty branch right? | 14:01 |
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| matrohon | mestery : it looks weird I know, but we also want to propose a 2014.2.0 and 2015.1.0 tag. So to be consistant, we'd like to name this release 3.0.0 | 14:03 |
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| mestery | matrohon: That's perfectly fine, I just wanted you to confirm you want hte tag on stablie/liberty and not on master :) | 14:03 |
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| matrohon | mestery : we'd like to work as it is done in enutron : in neutron you're tagging on the stable branches. | 14:04 |
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| matrohon | mestery, ? | 14:04 |
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| mestery | matrohon: OK, coolio, just confirming. Tag on the way! | 14:04 |
| matrohon | mestery, thanks | 14:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Ignore possible suffix in iproute commands. https://review.openstack.org/254801 | 14:06 |
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| devvesa | /go 34 | 14:10 |
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| tmorin | mestery: thanks a lot ! we're very happy to have this first release ! | 14:12 |
| mestery | tmorin: Excellent work on this! I'm especially keen to read more on the BGP EVPN work you've done so far. | 14:13 |
| tmorin | mestery: we will be very happy to share, although we haven't planned anything in particular yet | 14:13 |
| tmorin | mestery: the doc is, we think, not a bad starting point (http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-bgpvpn/) | 14:14 |
| tmorin | mestery: I saw you started to review a few changes in the stable/* branches of networking-bagpipe , thanks for taking the time | 14:14 |
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| mestery | tmorin: Coolio, thanks for sharing, I'll ping you or matrohon with any questions :) | 14:15 |
| tmorin | mestery: I will Cc you on a few others, which we badly need to have networking-bgpvpn jobs (which depend on bagpipe) work properly | 14:15 |
| tmorin | mestery: you're much welcome! | 14:15 |
| mestery | tmorin: Excellent! | 14:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Dariusz Smigiel proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Moving to Keystone v3 API https://review.openstack.org/257362 | 14:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | tmorin: the docs seem to lack how to actually make it work | 14:15 |
| jschwarz | amuller, re: https://review.openstack.org/254801 - where do you want me to backport this? | 14:15 |
| jschwarz | liberty and kilo? | 14:16 |
| amuller | YAR! | 14:16 |
| tmorin | Sam-I-Am: correct, but the devstack plugin is functional | 14:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | tmorin: that doesnt make it usable | 14:16 |
| tmorin | sam-i-am: you're right that we need to update the doc | 14:16 |
| tmorin | tmorin: yes, I agree | 14:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | tmorin: how difficult is this to write a deployment scenario for in the networking guide? | 14:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | basically the simplest deployment, step-by-step with diagrams showing how it works | 14:17 |
| tmorin | sam-i-am: sounds like a good idea, pcarver had actually proposed to contribute something like this | 14:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tmorin: also, does this only work with ovs? | 14:18 |
| manous | hello | 14:19 |
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| manous | it's possible to get 2 floating ip on an instance ? | 14:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hong Hui Xiao proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Select active l3 agent for HA router https://review.openstack.org/257299 | 14:22 |
| xiaohhui | Yes, if the instance have 2 fixed ips(2 nics) | 14:23 |
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| tmorin | sam-i-am: there are different drivers, one (called "bagpipe") was designed to work along with the openvswitch mech driver | 14:23 |
| tmorin | sam-i-am: and uses OVS for BGPVPN MPLS forwarding | 14:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tmorin: ok, thats probably the one we'd put in the central docs because it does not involve a third-party thing | 14:24 |
| tmorin | sam-i-am: we also have an opendaylight driver, which will work with Opendaylight and will also use OSV | 14:24 |
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| tmorin | sam-i-am: yes | 14:24 |
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| tmorin | sam-i-am: we can also document the other drivers | 14:25 |
| tmorin | matrohon: ^^ discuss with Sam-I-Am on the lack of non-devstack installation/use guide in networking-bgpvpn doc tree | 14:25 |
| manous | xiohhui: i want only 2 floating ip | 14:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | matrohon: hello | 14:29 |
| matrohon | Sam-I-Am, hi | 14:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | we're talking about documenting bgpvpn so someone can use it | 14:30 |
| matrohon | Sam-I-Am, makes sense | 14:31 |
| matrohon | Sam-I-Am, tmorin : I'll add this item to the agenda of our meeting | 14:31 |
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| tmorin | matrohon: +1 | 14:32 |
| matrohon | Sam-I-Am, do you maintain a stable version of doc? so that we can update the liberty doc? | 14:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | matrohon: this would go in the networking guide at docs.openstack.org... and yes, it has a stable version | 14:33 |
| matrohon | Sam-I-Am, ok thanks | 14:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | matrohon: it would look similar to the scenarios in there... provide a basic usable example architecture, explain how it works, provide config snippets... and test it | 14:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | matrohon: i can join your meeting... let me find it on the calendar | 14:35 |
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| matrohon | Sam-I-Am, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/BGPVPN | 14:36 |
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| matrohon | Sam-I-Am, it's in 25 min, on meeting-alt | 14:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | matrohon: yeah i just noticed that | 14:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | adding to active calendar.. | 14:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | my head feels like its going to explode | 14:55 |
| ajo | '':) | 14:56 |
| ajo | Sam-I-Am , you need that coffee | 14:56 |
| yushiro2 | Hi all. I found ML2 plugin's bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1525163 | 14:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1525163 in neutron "add-router-interface can not recover when failing create_port_post_commit" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Yushiro FURUKAWA (y-furukawa-2) | 14:56 |
| yushiro2 | I hope someone confirms my bug-report :-) | 14:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | yushiro2: just one bug? :) | 14:57 |
| yushiro2 | Sam-I-Am, Yes, I think so. | 14:57 |
| yushiro2 | If someone confirms it, I'll post the patch soon. | 14:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | how often does that actually fail? | 14:59 |
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| ivank | I'm looking at the neutron-vpnaas code. where does create_vpnservice get called from? Or any of the vpn plugin interfaces for that matter | 15:01 |
| yushiro2 | Sam-I-Am, It will definitely happen if create_port_postcommit failed. | 15:01 |
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| yamahata | yushiro2: Are you proposing error recovery on add_router_interface? | 15:06 |
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| yamahata | yushiro2: what if neutron server is killed after port created but before error recovery? | 15:06 |
| yamahata | yushiro2: So for robust code, shouldn't we add more smart logic to port deletion? | 15:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Use admin context when removing DVR router on vm port deletion https://review.openstack.org/257938 | 15:07 |
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| yushiro2 | yamahata, No. I'll reuse current recovery logic for create_port. | 15:09 |
| yushiro2 | yamahata, if neutron server is killed after 'router port' created but before error recovery, the same phenomenon will occur. | 15:11 |
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| yamahata | yushiro2: please note that I'm not against adding recovery code. I wanted to say that we need to do more. | 15:13 |
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| yushiro2 | yamahata, Sure. let me see... please just a moment. | 15:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Do not remove router from dvr_snat agents on dvr port deletion https://review.openstack.org/255989 | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Do not remove router from dvr_snat agents on dvr port deletion https://review.openstack.org/255989 | 15:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sreekumar S proposed openstack/neutron: SIGHUP missed by child daemon process https://review.openstack.org/257947 | 15:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron: Cleanup all the release notes https://review.openstack.org/257413 | 15:25 |
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| jschwarz | ZZelle, thanks for the backports :) | 15:28 |
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| ZZelle | jschwarz, no pb | 15:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Raut proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Add neutron/plugin/common/constants.py module to neutron-lib https://review.openstack.org/255116 | 15:29 |
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| yushiro2 | yamahata, Hmm, there is separated Port DB transaction and RouterPort DB. | 15:33 |
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| yushiro2 | If router-interface-add executed and neutron-server is killed before RouterPort DB creation, the same problem will occur. | 15:36 |
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| yushiro2 | yamahata, Thanks for your comment. I'll update the bug-description. https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1525163 | 15:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1525163 in neutron "add-router-interface can not recover when failing create_port_post_commit" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Yushiro FURUKAWA (y-furukawa-2) | 15:42 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: Hi | 15:49 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: hey | 15:49 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: wrt oslo.versionobject work, I have code that could be put in a patch. | 15:50 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: nice. | 15:50 |
| mhickey | ihrachys: is there a bug and bp I can relate it to? | 15:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Notify nova with network-vif-plugged in case of live migration https://review.openstack.org/246898 | 15:53 |
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| ihrachys | mhickey: not really a bug for that. I don't think we need one, but you can report if you like. | 15:54 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: so if I have to deliver code, do I reference anything? | 15:55 |
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| ihrachys | mhickey: since it's test only, I would say you don't need a reference. | 15:55 |
| mhickey | ihrachys: ok, can do. thanks | 15:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | 2+ hours of meetings, no coffee | 15:59 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: yo | 16:00 |
| russellb | kevinbenton: o/ | 16:00 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: what is the plan for vlan-aware-vms with the ref impl | 16:01 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: tell nova to use a different bridge, right? | 16:01 |
| russellb | yes | 16:01 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: just when the port is a trunk? | 16:01 |
| russellb | based on current API proposal, it may require diff bridge in all cases | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | tmorin pcarver thanks again for your time | 16:02 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: right because trunk isn't known at port creation? | 16:02 |
| russellb | right | 16:02 |
| russellb | on the bright side, that shouldn't have any perf impact | 16:02 |
| tmorin | Sam-I-Am: thanks for yours | 16:02 |
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| russellb | just a complexity impact | 16:02 |
| russellb | (data path performance that is) | 16:03 |
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| tmorin | kevinbenton: we're looking for someone to do a second review after kyle's on a few changes in stable/* branches of networking-bagpipe | 16:03 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: right, but how will upgrade work? | 16:03 |
| tmorin | kevinbenton: (hi !) | 16:03 |
| kevinbenton | tmorin: shoot me some links | 16:03 |
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| tmorin | kevinbenton: I'll do (thanks!) but I want to explain the context | 16:03 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: existing ports can't be pulled off br-int | 16:04 |
| russellb | kevinbenton: good question. it could be made backwards compatible with existing ports that don't have their own bridge (yet). | 16:04 |
| russellb | i'm not sure if we can make existing ports from before an upgrade become trunk ports | 16:04 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: in which case, an existing port can't become a trunk... | 16:04 |
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| russellb | right | 16:04 |
| kevinbenton | :'( | 16:04 |
| kevinbenton | hmmm | 16:04 |
| russellb | wonder how much of a problem that really is though ... | 16:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Manjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add protocol value options to sg-rule-create https://review.openstack.org/256858 | 16:05 |
| kevinbenton | well it means the server side will have to understand which ports are legacy to reject the API call | 16:05 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: is there a plan to add the bridge that a port's vif is on to some db schema | 16:06 |
| russellb | ah, true | 16:06 |
| russellb | painful | 16:06 |
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| russellb | not that i know of (bence was going to do the impl) | 16:06 |
| russellb | i was imaging the bridge name automatically generated based on existing info | 16:06 |
| russellb | like port UUID or something | 16:06 |
| russellb | imagining that is | 16:07 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: yeah. that makes sense | 16:07 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: and ovs doesn't support moving a port to a different bridge? | 16:08 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: (just in case the obvious thing is supported) :) | 16:08 |
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| russellb | kevinbenton: you can. it's just delete from one bridge and add to another. | 16:09 |
| russellb | kevinbenton: wasn't sure when to trigger it, i suppose. | 16:09 |
| russellb | but yeah, that should work. | 16:09 |
| russellb | i guess it could be done by ovs agent on demand, if needed | 16:10 |
| russellb | (when a legacy port was made into a trunk port) | 16:10 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: i assume when the new version of the agent starts up it could just rewrire then | 16:10 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: but can ovs make the operation atomic? | 16:10 |
| russellb | it can, yes | 16:10 |
| russellb | might be a very minor data path impact | 16:10 |
| russellb | might, heh | 16:10 |
| russellb | there will | 16:10 |
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| russellb | it can be atomic, even with ovs-vsctl | 16:11 |
| russellb | ovs-vsctl del-port ... -- add-port ... | 16:11 |
| russellb | you can string commands together in a single transaction | 16:11 |
| russellb | the neutron code makes use of this | 16:11 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: yeah, i know we use it. just wasn't sure what guarantees it offered | 16:12 |
| russellb | ok | 16:12 |
| russellb | yeah, stringing together like that makes it a single transaction | 16:12 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: but the impact might still be an issue | 16:12 |
| russellb | yep | 16:12 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: might have to make it late-binding then when the trunk is made | 16:12 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: which is doable | 16:12 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: just a gross amount of logic | 16:13 |
| russellb | late-binding is smallest impact | 16:13 |
| russellb | but i'm not sure how much of an impact we're really talking about | 16:13 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: well maybe not that made. migrate on port update instead of startup | 16:13 |
| russellb | might require testing | 16:13 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: either way we require the migration | 16:13 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: so nova vif side will have to be written to always attempt to delete an ovs bridge but not freakout if it doesn't exist | 16:14 |
| russellb | didn't think of delete | 16:14 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: when tearing down a VM port | 16:15 |
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| russellb | can't make neutron do it on port delete? | 16:15 |
| russellb | seems odd to have it not symmetric | 16:15 |
| russellb | (neutron creates, nova deletes) | 16:15 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: but neutron is only creating in the migrate case | 16:15 |
| kevinbenton | for when nova didn't do it | 16:15 |
| kevinbenton | normally nova would have created the bridge (for new ports) | 16:16 |
| russellb | won't neutron have to do some OpenFlow programming on the bridge though? | 16:16 |
| russellb | need to map out the config here | 16:17 |
| kevinbenton | yes | 16:17 |
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| kevinbenton | but the actual creation of the bridge i assume we would leave to the vif driver | 16:17 |
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| russellb | ok, easy enough | 16:18 |
| kevinbenton | otherwise we have to plug the port into the bridge on the neutron side during creation | 16:18 |
| kevinbenton | which is an alternative | 16:18 |
| kevinbenton | and then neutron agent manages life-cycle of the bridge | 16:18 |
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| russellb | where do you think it's best to write all this stuff down | 16:18 |
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| russellb | could be new section in the spec, or another doc in devref later | 16:19 |
| russellb | but i feel like we should get something written and iterate in gerrit | 16:19 |
| russellb | because i'm going to forget these details again | 16:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | etherpad first, spec next? | 16:19 |
| amuller | this is devref material | 16:19 |
| russellb | and i think it'd be best to let bence drive writing it down, if he's implementing it | 16:20 |
| russellb | helps with solidifying understanding | 16:20 |
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| russellb | rubasov: are you still around? | 16:20 |
| russellb | rubasov: talking about ovs agent support for vlan-aware-vms ... i think we need to write down some detailed design notes about this | 16:21 |
| kevinbenton | don't write any of it down, complain in review when it wasn't handled :) | 16:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: lol | 16:21 |
| russellb | kevinbenton: that's an alternative, yes | 16:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: isnt that how we do things here? | 16:21 |
| kevinbenton | then propose a new spec :) | 16:21 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: better yet just push a 5000 LoC alternative patch without any docs | 16:22 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: then start an external repo for it | 16:22 |
| amuller | and send project-config patches for CI jobs on the new repo | 16:22 |
| ajo | mestery , ping , I was wondering why do we have 7.0.1 in https://tarballs.openstack.org/neutron/neutron-7.0.1.tar.gz but not in launchpad | 16:22 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: sorry, venting =p | 16:22 |
| kevinbenton | :) | 16:23 |
| ajo | mestery: is tarballs.openstack.org automated, and the same thing we upload to launchpad ? | 16:23 |
| mestery | ajo: LP is now not automatic | 16:23 |
| mestery | It's manual | 16:23 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: are you going to make some notes somewhere? | 16:23 |
| russellb | and the new repo copies over some agents and applies a few changes to them? | 16:23 |
| mestery | Someone has to update it | 16:23 |
| ajo | mestery , if tarballs.openstack.org is the same thing, I'm ok with tarballs | 16:23 |
| ajo | I don't necessarily need LP :) | 16:23 |
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| ajo | ihrachys , what do you think? | 16:23 |
| russellb | kevinbenton: i'll comment on the review about it. If Bence is implementing it, it'd be best to let him write it | 16:24 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: sounds good | 16:25 |
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| russellb | kevinbenton: commented | 16:27 |
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| russellb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243786/9 | 16:27 |
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| matrohon | mestery : re | 16:28 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: if it's the same, I don't mind. note that since you look at it in RDO context, you probably will need to update Source0 link in the .spec file to point to new location. | 16:52 |
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| yalie | man | 16:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | awk | 17:10 |
| mhickey | Sam-I-Am: :) | 17:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i sense a trend here | 17:11 |
| mhickey | I need to go home to bed. my head hurts with head cold | 17:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mhickey: ouch | 17:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | i had one of those a few weeks ago | 17:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tis the season for sickness | 17:14 |
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| mhickey | sure is! :) | 17:14 |
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| carl_baldwin | obondarev: ping | 17:18 |
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| sc68cal | it's this wqrm weather. everyone gets sick | 17:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: snowing like a beast here | 17:26 |
| sc68cal | it's 61F here in philly | 17:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | it was like that last week here | 17:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | then bam... blizzard | 17:27 |
| mhickey | sc68cal: agree. fairly warm here with loadsa rain | 17:27 |
| sc68cal | amuller: so the LB job in stable/liberty is not blocking stuff anymore FYI | 17:28 |
| sc68cal | but looks like other jobs now are. | 17:28 |
| * sc68cal hands amuller a mallet for the whack-a-mole machine | 17:29 | |
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| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: in the neutron meeting someone mentioned problems in master | 17:32 |
| ihrachys | armax: the oslo.config hook I talked about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213062/2 | 17:33 |
| ihrachys | though now I see that the approach is dropped to instead use reset() for oslo.service | 17:33 |
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| ihrachys | there is also some alternative for oslo.config: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251471/16 | 17:35 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: ah thanks. yeah it's the 0 == 0 bug | 17:35 |
| sc68cal | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1523638 | 17:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1523638 in neutron "tempest fails with No IPv4 addresses found" [High,Confirmed] | 17:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: wut | 17:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: any of these normal? | 17:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | http://logs.openstack.org/66/254166/2/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-linuxbridge/350516d/logs/screen-q-agt.txt.gz#_2015-12-08_16_08_05_410 | 17:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | http://logs.openstack.org/66/254166/2/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-linuxbridge/350516d/logs/screen-q-agt.txt.gz#_2015-12-08_16_08_06_460 | 17:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, the second one definitely isnt normal | 17:42 |
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| * sc68cal looks | 17:46 | |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: both are not normal | 17:47 |
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| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: but I don't know if it's related to 1523638 | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Martin Hickey proposed openstack/neutron: Add test for Neutron object versions https://review.openstack.org/258026 | 17:48 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: version object patch available ^^ | 17:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: i suppose tempest doesn't really know whats happening inside ovs... and hence may throw this wonky 0 == 0 error | 17:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | err linuxbridge | 17:50 |
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| ihrachys | mhickey: awesome, will need to look at it tomorrow | 17:51 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: that was quick :) | 17:51 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: lets see what it looks like first! :) | 17:52 |
| mhickey | Good evening/day/night to all | 17:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mhickey: night. feel better. | 17:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | nothing scotch cant kick | 17:54 |
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| mhickey | Sam-I-Am: Thanks, I hope so! :) | 17:55 |
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| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: basically it looks like it's running out of IP addresses for floating | 17:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it kind of does | 17:59 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: so, something is racing or not deleting fasting enough | 17:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Tune _get_candidates for faster scheduling in dvr https://review.openstack.org/242286 | 17:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah... which is why this is transient | 17:59 |
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| Sukhdev | kevinbenton : Ping | 18:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/255556 | 18:14 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/256494 | 18:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/258063 | 18:17 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: pong | 18:17 |
| Sukhdev | kevinbenton : wanted to pick on your brain regarding this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255614/ | 18:18 |
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| Sukhdev | kevinbenton : did you see my comment in response to your question? | 18:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Separate rbac calculation from _make_network_dict https://review.openstack.org/256609 | 18:34 |
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| amuller | ajo: ^ | 18:34 |
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| ajo | ahh | 18:35 |
| ajo | hdaniel ^ | 18:35 |
| ajo | :) | 18:35 |
| ajo | thanks amuller | 18:35 |
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| hdaniel | ajo: thanks | 18:36 |
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| amuller | hdaniel: we need to backport that, and the other fixes that come up about the performance issues also | 18:37 |
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| hdaniel | amuller: what version should this be backported to ? | 18:38 |
| amuller | hdaniel: stable/liberty | 18:38 |
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| nmagnezi | any second core member to review this backport? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257857/ | 18:40 |
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| hdaniel | kevinbenton: hi. will you have a spare moment to go through https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254224/ ? | 18:43 |
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| hdaniel | ajo: ^ | 18:43 |
| manous | hi | 18:44 |
| ajo | hdaniel : I'm on a mtg | 18:44 |
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| manous | hello how to provisionning like this in neutron http://paste.openstack.org/show/481989/ | 18:45 |
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| manous | my ext-net is IP/24 | 18:48 |
| ajo | HenryG , kevinbenton , if you had time: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246923/ ("Adding a VNIC type for physical functions") | 18:48 |
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| ajo | sorry HenryG , may be it's not in your area, rossella_s ? :) ^ | 18:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Batch db segment retrieval https://review.openstack.org/256846 | 18:51 |
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| amuller | hdaniel: that too ^ :) | 18:52 |
| hdaniel | amuller: ack | 18:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/255850 | 18:57 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/255556 | 18:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/256494 | 18:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/258063 | 19:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Haim Daniel proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Role-based Access Control for QoS Policies https://review.openstack.org/254224 | 19:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Haim Daniel proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Role-based Access Control for QoS Policies https://review.openstack.org/254224 | 19:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Haim Daniel proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Role-based Access Control for QoS Policies https://review.openstack.org/254224 | 19:06 |
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| parveen__ | i have install neutron on xenserver as vm...but my vms on openstack fail to get ip..any one help on that | 19:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Improvements to tox envs https://review.openstack.org/255682 | 19:09 |
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| parveen__ | :( | 19:14 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: about your performance patches... Bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1525740 + https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1525423 + https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1525295 + https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1513782 | 19:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1525740 in neutron "network availability zone code causes lookups for every network" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 19:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1525423 in neutron "get_networks performance hindered by segment lookups" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 19:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1525295 in neutron "subnet listing is too slow with rbac" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 19:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1513782 in neutron "API response time degradation" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 19:25 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: First of all, great job :) | 19:25 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: woah, a sea of highlights! | 19:25 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: it's the bot spamming you not me =p | 19:26 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: with all of the patches cherry picked, were you able to reproduce performance issues with port-list, net-list or subnet-list? | 19:26 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: subnet-list was noticably faster with the rbac fix | 19:27 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: net-list was also in my env | 19:27 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: with the batch one | 19:27 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: were you able to reproduce issues with port-list? | 19:27 |
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| garyk | pc_m: please https://review.openstack.org/257775 - file is auto generated | 19:29 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: no, i didn't notice the same issues though as that one bug complaining about the nova interface-list | 19:29 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: ok | 19:29 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: so once all of these merge, i want that reporter to try again against master | 19:29 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: gotcha, thanks! | 19:30 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: also, as the testing king, i want you to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257222/ | 19:30 |
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| AJaeger | garyk: you can also start with just an empty file for 257775. | 19:30 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: I saw it, I will | 19:30 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: it's a novel concept :) | 19:30 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: would have caught these types of query explosion regressions | 19:30 |
| AJaeger | pc_m: if you have questions, feel free to ping me as well | 19:30 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: I would have thought Rally would as well | 19:30 |
| amuller | we do run Rally at the gate | 19:31 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: well rally won't let us know until we establish SLAs | 19:31 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: or until it's so incredibly slow that rally times out | 19:31 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: and i plan to establish SLAs | 19:31 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: IMO historical graphing is more useful than SLAs | 19:32 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: but we always need to leave enough overhead for different server hardware | 19:32 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: but if we don't have either than while Rally on its own is incredibly useful, running it at the gate is questionable | 19:32 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: which is why I'm more interested in historical graphs than finding specific SLAs | 19:32 |
| garyk | AJaeger: yeah, that is an option but in all of the other ones we have the generated file | 19:32 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: you could find an SLA that would work great now, then when feature freeze hits we'll get a ton of failures | 19:33 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: historical graphs get noisy unless we can get some kind of hardware consistency guarantees | 19:33 |
| amuller | just because the hosts are loaded | 19:33 |
| AJaeger | garyk: I know - and I expect you would get questions why the file is empty with a -1 as well ;) | 19:33 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: I think a human would be able to notice spikes though, steps in the graphs | 19:33 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: so the SLAs would stop order of magnitude failures, but i suppose it's possible that a heavily loaded compute node could be contentious enough to cause that | 19:33 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: +1 | 19:34 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: i'm all for it, but where do we store the data? | 19:34 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: we'd need buy in from infra | 19:34 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: I talked to Boris about it a couple of times | 19:34 |
| amuller | and I think regXboi as well | 19:34 |
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| amuller | we just need someone dedicated enough to actually sit down and do it | 19:35 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: historical graphing is quite hard task | 19:35 |
| amuller | like with everything :) | 19:35 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: we are working slowly on at | 19:35 |
| boris-42_ | it | 19:35 |
| amuller | boris-42_: oh hi Boris | 19:35 |
| regXboi | ? | 19:35 |
| regXboi | I saw my name | 19:35 |
| kevinbenton | boris-42_: well even without the graphing, storing results in the db is a good enough start | 19:35 |
| amuller | regXboi: We're talking about persisting historical rally results | 19:36 |
| kevinbenton | boris-42_: we can always have a script that takes those and makes simple graphs | 19:36 |
| boris-42_ | kevinbenton: actually if we have single DB for all runs | 19:36 |
| boris-42_ | kevinbenton: we will be able to make some scripting | 19:36 |
| amuller | so humans could notice spikes in the data to potentially spot problematic patches | 19:36 |
| boris-42_ | kevinbenton: and create historical stuff | 19:36 |
| kevinbenton | boris-42_: it seems we are already on the same page :) | 19:36 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: you can use SLAs for that | 19:36 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: and then it will just show -1 | 19:36 |
| boris-42_ | =) | 19:36 |
| kevinbenton | boris-42_: amuller is concerned that heavily loaded compute nodes will violate the SLAs | 19:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Nate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron: DSCP QoS rule implementation, unit tests https://review.openstack.org/253680 | 19:37 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: but does infra oversubscribe the hardware like that? | 19:37 |
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| amuller | I don't think that it's feasible for performance jobs to vote -1, I don't know if you'd be able to find good SLAs that would be feature-freeze-load proof, for example | 19:37 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: that may be tru | 19:37 |
| boris-42_ | true | 19:37 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: last feature freezes they do, absolutely | 19:37 |
| amuller | they did* | 19:37 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: however if you put SLA = 2*avg | 19:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron: DSCP QoS rule implementation, unit tests https://review.openstack.org/253680 | 19:37 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: that will be enough to catch the most of bad things | 19:37 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: if an oversubscription causes an order of magnitude decrease in performance, i'm not sure what oversubscribing is buying :) | 19:38 |
| amuller | I think a smarter approach, instead of letting a machine vote -1, you graph the data and let humans notice steps in the graph | 19:38 |
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| boris-42_ | amuller: based on my expirience nobody(relative small amount of people) will do that | 19:38 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: even -1 of non voting job is not enough reason to take a look at the result | 19:38 |
| amuller | boris-42_: Neutron's a pretty big community :) | 19:38 |
| amuller | boris-42_: agreed | 19:39 |
| amuller | with something like https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1513782 though | 19:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1513782 in neutron "API response time degradation" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 19:39 |
| amuller | if we had data going back to August we could have correlated the bug report with the historical data and verified the bug | 19:39 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: so just put SLAs that are bigger 2 then AVG | 19:39 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: and you'll detect such stuff | 19:39 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: after that you can find which API is failing | 19:40 |
| amuller | not sure I understand, you persist the average over runs? | 19:40 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: nope | 19:40 |
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| amuller | so the SLA is dynamically set per run? | 19:40 |
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| carl_baldwin | Hi, anyone know off-hand the syntax to pass a list value to neutron client to, say, port-create --fixed-ips ? | 19:40 |
| kevinbenton | we would have to set the SLAs that we expect manually so it requires a little more maintenance | 19:41 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: they are hardcoded in task that you are executing | 19:41 |
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| amuller | ah ha, so we calculate the average over a few days ourselves OK, I see | 19:41 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/rally-jobs/neutron-neutron.yaml#L35-L37 | 19:41 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: neutron port-create net0 \ | 19:41 |
| kevinbenton | --fixed-ip subnet_id=net0-subnet0 \ | 19:41 |
| kevinbenton | --fixed-ip subnet_id=net0-subnet0 | 19:41 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: so you can just do it in other way | 19:41 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: propose patch with reasanoble SLA | 19:42 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: recheck it N times | 19:42 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: i would like the graphing either way | 19:42 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: if it passes and SLAs are not too big | 19:42 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: How would pass an empty list to get no ip allocation? | 19:42 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: yeah, the SLAs thing is just more actionable | 19:42 |
| boris-42_ | kevinbenton: yep some day some day | 19:42 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: SECRET | 19:42 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: you have to use curl right now | 19:42 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: i don't think the client can do it on a create | 19:42 |
| boris-42_ | kevinbenton: we need more Web UI guys | 19:42 |
| boris-42_ | in Rally=) | 19:43 |
| dougwig | HenryG: can you peek at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255017/ ? i don't have enough context (pun intended) to be confident enough to +A | 19:43 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: Hmmm. I thought it could. Thanks. | 19:43 |
| boris-42_ | kevinbenton: amuller in any case Rally stores all results in it's own DB | 19:44 |
| boris-42_ | kevinbenton: amuller so it is possible to use centrailized storage in gates | 19:44 |
| boris-42_ | kevinbenton: and do some historical perf data | 19:44 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: das graph! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yAl30ql3PTCqDxDb08f4vClobVllw7KmDs76dpxfnbU/pubchart?oid=2073656825&format=interactive | 19:44 |
| amuller | boris-42_: kevinbenton: Infra are storing CI results of Tempest runs via subunit-2-sql | 19:45 |
| amuller | it's what drives the new dashboard health | 19:45 |
| amuller | it's in a single Trove instance in a cloud somewhere | 19:45 |
| HenryG | dougwig: ugh, that looks like a bit like voodoo | 19:45 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: we have much more information then subunit format can handle | 19:45 |
| amuller | boris-42_: I know, just using it as an example | 19:45 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: and it's already stored | 19:45 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: that's bad example=) | 19:46 |
| amuller | boris-42_: persisting results over time is already being done by infra, so I'm saying conceptually the door is open | 19:46 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: we need just to use single DB instead of creating it each time | 19:46 |
| amuller | boris-42_: yeah that's what I'm talking about | 19:46 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: yep | 19:46 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: so first osprofiler | 19:46 |
| boris-42_ | amuller: and later this | 19:46 |
| amuller | ok | 19:46 |
| dougwig | HenryG: hence me hiding behind a db lt. :) | 19:47 |
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| sc68cal | armax: ping - regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203509/36 | 19:48 |
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| armax | sc68cal: yes | 19:52 |
| sc68cal | armax: my latest comment - we nuked the api method for enumerating the log drivers available but still have an attribute that is an enum, meaning you have to know the available drivers | 19:53 |
| armax | let me look | 19:54 |
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| sc68cal | armax: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203509/31/specs/mitaka/logging-API-for-security-group-rules.rst,cm L51 | 19:55 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: whoops. supposed to be an interactive chart | 19:58 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yAl30ql3PTCqDxDb08f4vClobVllw7KmDs76dpxfnbU/edit#gid=1999703941 | 19:58 |
| HenryG | dougwig: I dug around in the code (lbaas) a bit. It makes sense now and seems fine. | 19:58 |
| dougwig | HenryG: ty | 19:59 |
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| kevinbenton | boris-42_: we need a feature where as more ports are added to the db, rally measures retrieval times and does a linear regression. then we can put SLAs on the slope :) | 20:05 |
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| kfox1111 | how do I find out what the id for the 'default' security group is for a given project? | 20:13 |
| kfox1111 | if I go by name, since I'm an admin it thinks 'default' is not unique. | 20:13 |
| kfox1111 | if I do a security-group-list, I see no way to know which project it belongs to. | 20:13 |
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| kfox1111 | oh... but openstack security group list seems to do the right thing... | 20:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kfox1111: you mean as an admin project that can see everything? | 20:20 |
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| yalie | anybody know how to specify the ip to empty from cmdline? | 20:22 |
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| yalie | when port creating/updating? | 20:23 |
| yalie | using python-neutronclinet? | 20:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yalie: not that i know of | 20:31 |
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| yalie | Sam-I-Am: thanks! | 20:35 |
| yalie | Sam-I-Am: maybe there is a gap here. | 20:35 |
| dasm | HenryG: ping, regarding moving to keystone v3 | 20:37 |
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| mlavalle | Sam-I-Am: interested? https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/423817000 | 20:39 |
| regXboi | Rocket Man! | 20:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | mlavalle: ha, yeah | 20:40 |
| sc68cal | one of these days Sam-I-Am - right to the moon! | 20:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: ha, yep. | 20:42 |
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| HenryG | dasm: pong | 20:53 |
| dasm | HenryG: hey. I've answered at patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257362/ | 20:53 |
| HenryG | dasm: ack, let's sync up with armax | 20:54 |
| dasm | HenryG: ok | 20:54 |
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| dougwig | sc68cal: ping? let's talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180803/ | 21:44 |
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| blogan | dougwig: was there a specific reason why the API details aren't necessary in the specs anymore? I've assumed its because the devref is required and it will be in that but I'm not sure if that is the reason | 21:47 |
| dougwig | blogan, sc68cal: that was the reason, yes. if we need to revisit that, so be it. but i'd like to advance 180803, so we need to close that loop. | 21:48 |
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| sc68cal | I didn't know that REST APIs now can just be documented in devref. | 21:57 |
| sc68cal | so why do we have a spec repo | 21:57 |
| sc68cal | why did we spend all this time on FwaaS api as a spec | 21:58 |
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| sc68cal | if I could just push a patch to Neutron FwaaS | 21:58 |
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| sc68cal | my thought was to build consensus and have good documents for implementation of an API | 21:58 |
| dougwig | sc68cal: the intent of the process change was to be less waterfall-y. if it's simple, let the code review suffice. more than that, devref. more than that, you might WANT a spec to get stakeholders on board, or drivers might require it. | 21:59 |
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| dougwig | certainly if you feel there is not enough info for *you* to be happy, you can request more. and if that's the case here, so be it. | 21:59 |
| sc68cal | OK, then feel free to approve the spec, I'll take the dissent score on stackalytics | 21:59 |
| dougwig | or if the process needs to be revisited, also, so be it. | 21:59 |
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| dougwig | sc68cal: the question to you is: do you feel you have enough info on what they're doing to have them move forward, with some (not total) confidence you won't hate/disagree the result? if not, we'll wait. | 22:00 |
| sc68cal | I don't, but I am happy to be wrong | 22:01 |
| sc68cal | so please go ahead and approve | 22:01 |
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| dougwig | sc68cal: what gets you there? do you need full api specs on every api change? or just this one? is something fuzzy? i'll happily give you the dissent stat, but only if it's an informed rejection. :) | 22:03 |
| * Sam-I-Am looks at the sad state of api docs | 22:04 | |
| sc68cal | ^ this | 22:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | lots of things are getting implemented without any way to use them beyond looking at the code | 22:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | both configuration and api | 22:04 |
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| dougwig | so, that tells me that reviewers aren't doing a good job of enforcing the devref, or that info is not bubbling into the published docs? do we educate reviewers, change the process, or other? | 22:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | imo, an api change/addition should include sufficient docs for that feature before merge | 22:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | api docs are not in the devref | 22:06 |
| sc68cal | so, I mean if the devref is good then fine, but we don't have good history on this. at least the rest APIs that have been in specs because people focus on docs | 22:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | devref is developer-centric. operators/users use apis. | 22:06 |
| sc68cal | most of the time by time it gets to review as actual code it's too late | 22:06 |
| dougwig | the intent was they move to the devref, they MUST be there with the code change, and they must be maintained across changes. -specs was almost deleted, in fact. | 22:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | write a spec containing api details... build the api docs and code in parallel... release. | 22:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | dougwig: api docs in devref? | 22:07 |
| sc68cal | API docs in devref would be nice. but that hasn't happened | 22:07 |
| dougwig | Sam-I-Am: yep. the intent was to delete -specs and move it all into devref. -specs was saved as an intermediary between an rfe use case and the later devref. | 22:08 |
| sc68cal | closest thing we've been able to get in in specs | 22:08 |
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| dougwig | mestery, armax: am i mis-remembering here? or do we need a change? | 22:08 |
| sc68cal | in is | 22:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i see -specs as an augmentation of blueprints that allows discussion, approval, and modification | 22:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | because launchpad bps are... bleh | 22:09 |
| sc68cal | very bleh | 22:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | they can contain descriptions of something like api extensions... but ultimately any documentation in a spec needs to move to a permanent location | 22:09 |
| mestery | dougwig: Since then, things have definitely changed | 22:09 |
| armax | dougwig: can you fill me in? | 22:09 |
| mestery | For instance, no one maintains LP anymore | 22:09 |
| mestery | And infra is moving away from it like it has the plague | 22:10 |
| dougwig | Sam-I-Am: yep, that was intended to move to devref, and people are free to submit devref before code. if the pendulum wants to swing back, fine. i just don't want to hold different reviews to different standards, or to contradict the guidance in the spec template entirely. | 22:10 |
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| mestery | Notice how our Mitaka-1 still shows up for example :) | 22:10 |
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| sc68cal | the problem with waiting to code is APIs like the security group logging | 22:10 |
| sc68cal | it's taken like 35 PS in specs to get a REST API | 22:11 |
| mestery | But yeah, consistency would be nice | 22:11 |
| dougwig | sc68cal: right. " and people are free to submit devref before code." | 22:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | dougwig: i guess it doesnt matter where docs start out, as long as they're written outside of the code, for the intended audiences, and put into the correct permanent locations | 22:11 |
| dougwig | i'm just saying what the current process is. i'm not actually a fan of devref; i like -specs. | 22:11 |
| sc68cal | and that was AFTER they had submitted code to both Neutron and Neutron fwaas | 22:11 |
| mestery | I kind of like specs too to be honest | 22:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | dev-centric stuff in specs can move to devref as it becomes more concrete during the coding process | 22:12 |
| sc68cal | I don't like reviews that just puts stuff in devref | 22:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: unless its stuff only useful to developers :) | 22:12 |
| sc68cal | like the pyroutes2 review | 22:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | i should draw a diagram for docs progression | 22:13 |
| tidwellr1 | kevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233317/ answer to your question inline | 22:14 |
| blogan | my concern for disagreeing with sc68cal was that the template said those details weren't needed, so it just sends a confusing message to people trying to get this spec in, especially the length its been in review | 22:14 |
| dougwig | Sam-I-Am, sc68cal, mestery: getting pulled into meeting, but i'm open to changing/updating to reflect reality. but what i don't want to do is penalize 180803 for following the *current* plan of record. | 22:15 |
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| dougwig | does one of you want to submit a process change/spec template update patch? | 22:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | dougwig: sure, providing the api docs (and other docs) are updated at or prior to the merge of code that implements this feature | 22:17 |
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| sc68cal | which was the point of specs. | 22:18 |
| sc68cal | document the API - then submit the code that implements it | 22:18 |
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| sc68cal | or am I wrong? | 22:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | contents of specs seem to vary among projects | 22:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont think there's any rule for what goes in them... as long as the content describes the change thoroughly enough | 22:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | docs need writing at some point, so whether the spec wants to include pseudo-api-docs or full api docs is up to the author | 22:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | if it was me i'd get the docs out of the way first so people fully understand the spec | 22:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | things change during development, but just update the spec | 22:21 |
| blogan | Sam-I-Am: so for you a spec is more just for getting consensus on what the API should generaly look like? | 22:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | blogan: for changes that impact api, yes... enough detail to make implementation clear | 22:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in other words, avoid the potential of arguing over implementation after spec approval | 22:23 |
| boris-42_ | kevinbenton: hm there should be already such stuff | 22:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | do the arguing in the spec | 22:23 |
| boris-42_ | kevinbenton: sorry I was offline for a while | 22:23 |
| blogan | Sam-I-Am: in this particular spec, i think thats general information is given | 22:23 |
| sc68cal | blogan: I don't think I agree. But honestly it's not my spec to approve - I just saw a trend where it went from some detail to very little detail and commented as such. If people are OK with few details for this REST api then I'll butt out. | 22:25 |
| dougwig | Sam-I-Am, sc68cal: so, i advocate that we advance the ip count proposal while we debate this, as opposed to putting that feature into the never-ending "next process" churn that we like to do. can folks live with that? | 22:25 |
| dougwig | sc68cal: then let's address the part of the process that's broken, for all proposals. | 22:26 |
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| sc68cal | dougwig: that's fine. Go ahead and approve the spec, I'll take my dissent stat and we'll move on | 22:26 |
| blogan | sc68cal: fair enough, I honestly am fine with the general API look and feel, but wouldn't care if more details are required. I'd just like to have rules that are consistent | 22:27 |
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| sc68cal | we've had so many process changes (neutron stadium, RFEs, specs, LP) that it's basically turned into chaos since things change every cycle and we don't bother to let it propogate to distant nodes | 22:27 |
| sc68cal | before the next process change happens | 22:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: cool, a routing reference :) | 22:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | our process is flapping | 22:28 |
| sc68cal | believe me, I derive no pleasure from doing spec reviews or code reviews. | 22:28 |
| blogan | needs a quorum | 22:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | a lot of work has been done in the devref for policy | 22:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | just need to make this process more clear | 22:31 |
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| Swami_ | kevinbenton:ping | 22:37 |
| ajmiller | pc_m https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256494/ just finished check tests | 22:38 |
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| yalie | ping kevinbenton | 22:51 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: pong (sorry late) | 22:52 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: no prob. tidwellr1 addressed my question on the review | 22:53 |
| kevinbenton | Swami_: hey | 22:53 |
| kevinbenton | yalie: hi | 22:53 |
| Swami_ | kevinbenton: hi | 22:54 |
| Swami_ | kevinbenton: I have a question on the neutron-nova communication for live migration | 22:54 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: cool. | 22:54 |
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| kevinbenton | Swami_: hmm. well you can ask but I might not know :) | 22:55 |
| Swami_ | kevinbenton: since you own the L2 segment just wanted to touch base with you if you have any ideas or had any discussion with the nova folks, | 22:55 |
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| Swami_ | kevinbenton: yes I don't need the answer right now. | 22:56 |
| kevinbenton | Swami_: ok. ask and i'll get in touch with someone to find out because it's something i want to know more about too | 22:56 |
| Swami_ | kevinbenton: since we need to do it right, please let me know if you have any thoughts. | 22:56 |
| dougwig | sc68cal: ok, so we'll dissent with joy on that spec, but i'm trying to get your overall issues addressed somehow, because you seem unhappy with the status quo. | 22:56 |
| kevinbenton | dougwig: ron paul 2012! | 22:57 |
| Swami_ | kevinbenton: ok meanwhile I will go deep dive the nova/neutron current handshakes. | 22:57 |
| yalie | kevinbenton: I am trying to fix it in neutronclient https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248487/3//COMMIT_MSG | 22:57 |
| kevinbenton | Swami_: well what wsa the question? | 22:57 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: Hey, I think you'll find this interesting: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1526559 | 22:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1526559 in neutron "L3 agent parallel configuration of routers might slow things down" [Undecided,New] | 22:57 |
| amuller | haleyb: ^ | 22:57 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: looking... | 22:57 |
| yalie | kevinbenton: and I want to know if it | 22:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | amuller: have you looked at this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257299 | 22:58 |
| Swami_ | kevinbenton: I don't have any other questions at this time. | 22:58 |
| yalie | kevinbenton: is reasonable to update the API in neutron too ? fixed ip from [] to [{}] | 22:58 |
| amuller | Sam-I-Am: not the latest revision | 22:58 |
| yalie | kevinbenton: or this API could not be updated. | 22:58 |
| kevinbenton | Swami_: what was the original question? i didn't see you ask one! | 22:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | amuller: ok. i commented on it... looking for some help from captain l3ha. | 22:59 |
| amuller | Sam-I-Am: it's on my radar :) | 22:59 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: It has been a while since I've measure the performance with threads but that doesn't match what I saw. | 22:59 |
| kevinbenton | yalie: no, because that's the API throwing away info | 22:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | amuller: aight, thx. | 22:59 |
| Swami_ | kevinbenton: the original question is we have a bug filed against the dvr on live migration. | 22:59 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: ok | 22:59 |
| kevinbenton | yalie: appropriate fix is in the client | 22:59 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: I was *hoping* this is something regXboi would want to look at | 22:59 |
| Swami_ | kevinbenton: dvr is pro-active in creating the router and flow rules in the destination node. | 23:00 |
| Swami_ | kevinbenton: But during live migration it takes a while for the routers and flows to get created and so we loose connectivity. | 23:00 |
| carl_baldwin | If I recall, I did measurements back in Icehouse. It has been a while. | 23:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | amuller: ^ | 23:01 |
| yalie | kevinbenton: thanks kevin, and it seems more difficult to update the common parser to support the special case fixed-ip and fixed-ips and involved with list=true, somehting like that. | 23:01 |
| Swami_ | kevinbenton: in order to do it right, we need to create routers and flow ahead of time, for this we need to know the future hostbinding of the port and current host binding of the port. | 23:01 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: did you ever consider multiprocessing and roadblocks would we be hitting? | 23:01 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: what was the CPU bound in that case though? | 23:01 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: was it in the python process? | 23:01 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: naw the L3 agent was taking around half a core | 23:01 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: then it's likely contention caused by all of the commands. perhaps one of them results in internal locking in the kernel | 23:02 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: it was a lot of kernel scheduling and watchdog, also ip, bash, python, keepalived | 23:02 |
| Swami_ | kevinbenton: In this case we need a notification from nova during the pre-migration task and so we can take necessary action. | 23:02 |
| kevinbenton | Swami_: ok. so you want to know if nova will inform us where it will land somehow | 23:03 |
| Swami_ | kevinbenton: yes | 23:03 |
| kevinbenton | Swami_: ok. i'll follow up with someone | 23:03 |
| Swami_ | kevinbenton: yes | 23:03 |
| Swami_ | kevinbenton: thanks | 23:03 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: What kernel version is this on? | 23:03 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: let me check | 23:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | amuller: iproute2 version might help too. | 23:04 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: kernel-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7, iproute-3.10.0-21.el7 | 23:04 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: I'll add that to the bug | 23:04 |
| carl_baldwin | I recall some contention around exec'ing in namespaces a few years back. So, if they're relatively old versions.... | 23:04 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: it's RHEL 7.1 I think | 23:05 |
| amuller | you know how the Red Hat kernels go, a lot of backports, it's hard to know what's in there unless you really dive in to it | 23:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | amuller: yep, I haven't played with RH kernels for a while. | 23:07 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: You should :) | 23:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-fwaas: Setup for translation https://review.openstack.org/257044 | 23:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Force service provider relationships to load https://review.openstack.org/255017 | 23:08 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: gonna head off to dinner I'll be back later. Let me know if you can think of any other relevant info I can extract from the machine. | 23:08 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: what type of routers? | 23:08 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: I will, thanks. | 23:08 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: HA i assume? | 23:09 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: around half legacy half HA | 23:09 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: k. maybe the addition of the keepalive process changed the equation | 23:09 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: yeah it's possible | 23:09 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: I'd imagine 300 keepalived processes have an impact :) | 23:09 |
| amuller | internally it uses netlink to add ips and routes | 23:10 |
| amuller | so at least that's efficient | 23:10 |
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| amuller | alright gotta go, be back later | 23:10 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: yeah, maybe there is some ugly locking with so many IP things at once | 23:11 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: ok. ttyl | 23:11 |
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