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tmartinsGuys, I'm trying to evaluate Neutron 8.0.0~b1 on Ubuntu Xenial, but I'm seeing the following error on neutron-db-manage: http://paste.openstack.org/show/482920/ - Any clue?06:41
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Fix get_subnet_for_dvr() to return correct gateway mac  https://review.openstack.org/26257408:02
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openstackgerritWenxin Wang proposed openstack/neutron: radvd prefix configuration for DHCPV6_Stateful RA  https://review.openstack.org/26296212:04
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openstackgerritLiuNanke proposed openstack/neutron: Using LOG.warning replace LOG.warn  https://review.openstack.org/26225712:54
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openstackgerritLiuNanke proposed openstack/neutron: Using LOG.warning replace LOG.warn  https://review.openstack.org/26225713:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: dhcp: Default to using local DNS resolution  https://review.openstack.org/19271213:34
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openstackgerritvikram.choudhary proposed openstack/neutron: BGP Dynamic Routing: introduce BgpDrScheduler model  https://review.openstack.org/20760713:46
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openstackgerritvikram.choudhary proposed openstack/neutron: Add BGP Dynamic Routing DB Model and Basic CRUD  https://review.openstack.org/20162114:42
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openstackgerritvikram.choudhary proposed openstack/neutron: Add Queries For BGP Route Lookups  https://review.openstack.org/24219215:00
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openstackgerritvikram.choudhary proposed openstack/neutron: Add L3 Notifications To Enable BGP Dynamic Routing  https://review.openstack.org/24106215:18
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openstackgerritvikram.choudhary proposed openstack/neutron: BGP Dynamic Routing: introduce BgpDrScheduler model  https://review.openstack.org/20760715:40
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openstackgerritvikram.choudhary proposed openstack/neutron: BGP Dynamic Routing: introduce BgpDrAgent  https://review.openstack.org/20762515:50
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openstackgerritvikram.choudhary proposed openstack/neutron: BGP Dynamic Routing: introduce BgpDriver  https://review.openstack.org/20763516:01
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openstackgerritvikram.choudhary proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Add BGP Callback and RPC Call implementations  https://review.openstack.org/21699416:10
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openstackgerritLiuNanke proposed openstack/neutron: Using LOG.warning replace LOG.warn  https://review.openstack.org/26225717:09
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openstackgerritLiuNanke proposed openstack/neutron: Using LOG.warning replace LOG.warn  https://review.openstack.org/26225717:55
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openstackgerritLiuNanke proposed openstack/neutron: Using LOG.warning replace LOG.warn  https://review.openstack.org/26225718:15
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mspreitz_I'd like to back-port a fix to the Neutron scripting in DevStack to stable/liberty.  What is the procedure for that?21:56
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Sam-I-Amso... its a devstack patch?22:00
mspreitz_Sam-I-Am: yes, it is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242721/22:02
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Sam-I-Ami just do something like 'git checkout -b libery/backport/### remotes/origin/stable/liberty' then 'git pull' then 'git review -X ###' then push it for review22:04
mspreitz_@Sam-I-Am: thanks, I'll give it a try22:05
Sam-I-Amif it doesnt merge nicely you'll have to mess with it22:05
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mspreitz_Sam-I-Am: the `git pull` did nothing.   See https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/buMCvYjIaa22:08
Sam-I-Amit doesnt need to22:08
mspreitz_OK.  So at this point I do the mod that I want to back-port, right?22:09
Sam-I-Amgit review -X 242721 is next22:09
Sam-I-Amits a cherry pick22:09
mspreitz_Sam-I-Am: are you saying that if I simply do `git review -X 242721`, this will apply the change I want to back-port?22:10
Sam-I-Amyeah, once you have a branch from stable/liberty22:11
Sam-I-Amit'll try to apply it22:11
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mspreitz_Sam-I-Am: OK, there was indeed a merge conflict, and I have resolved it.  I now have the desired change committed but not yet pushed.22:18
mspreitz_Sam-I-Am: For regular development, I use `git review` to push for review.  Do I do the same in this case?22:19
Sam-I-Amyep22:19
Sam-I-Ammake sure you added whatever file was in conflict22:19
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mspreitz_Sam-I-Am: yes, it looks all good.  Thanks for the clues.22:21
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Sam-I-Amnp22:21
mspreitz_Anyone interested in reviewing it can see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263065/22:21
mspreitz_BTW, what IRC channel would be the best way to reach DevStack people?22:21
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Sam-I-Ammaybe openstack-dev22:23
Sam-I-Ampossibly -infra22:23
Sam-I-Amsomeone will see it in their queue22:23
mspreitz_OK, I'll refrain from pestering.22:24
Sam-I-Ammy devstack backport took a week or so22:24
mspreitz_ugh22:24
mspreitz_BTW, my merge conflict fix picked up part of another fix (all the parts are independent, this is not a functional problem).  Is there a way to navigate from the other commit (https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/ada886dd43ccc07f48d3a82d8d3d840fe5096c03) to the bug or review?22:26
Sam-I-Amthe original commit would have to include a bug id, if there was one22:27
mspreitz_Yes.  I found a way to navigate, by editing finding another URL with a change ID in it and editing it22:28
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Sam-I-Ammspreitz_: cool.22:32
Sam-I-Ammspreitz_: seems like you and i talked a bit about bug #152944422:33
openstackbug 1529444 in openstack-manuals "networking guide does not explain what OVS version 2.1 is needed for" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1529444 - Assigned to Matt Kassawara (ionosphere80)22:33
Sam-I-Ammspreitz_: sort of made that connection from your list post about backporting22:33
mspreitz_right, it's all related, I am trying to succeed with DevStack and neutron --- no success yet!22:34
Sam-I-Amanything in particular or just a stock install?22:35
mspreitz_I would love to get to something specific to my real interests, but so far it looks like just following the first simplest documented scenario does not work.22:35
Sam-I-Amthe docs for devstack+neutron are kind of meh22:36
mspreitz_I am trying to do exactly as described in the devstack with neutron guide.22:36
Sam-I-Ami sort of keep a localrc around that actually works22:36
mspreitz_Yes, the reality seems to be that everybody does that.22:36
Sam-I-Amwish i had time to fix those docs22:36
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Sam-I-Amthis might be handy - https://github.com/mestery/openstack-scripts/tree/master/devstack/control22:37
mspreitz_The problem is that if I do much modification to get where *I* want to go, the magic spell that I copied from someone else stops working.22:37
Sam-I-Amwhere do you want to go?22:37
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mspreitz_My interests have varied over time.  Right now I really would settle for a working multi-node install with Neutron using MLS, OVS, using VXLANs for tenant networks.22:39
mspreitz_s/MLS/ML2/22:39
Sam-I-Amhave you made a single-node work22:39
mspreitz_Actually LinuxBridge would be better than OVS22:39
mspreitz_No, not even single node yet.22:39
Sam-I-Ami use lb a lot, so my localrc bits are mostly lb22:39
Sam-I-Ami can paste one if you want22:40
mspreitz_Thanks, that would be nice.22:40
Sam-I-Amsc68cal and i are trying to fix a lot of lb things22:40
mspreitz_oh, you are implying there is a lot that doesn't work22:40
Sam-I-Amlb works. its just a bit behind in terms of features and testing.22:42
Sam-I-Amhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/482924/22:42
Sam-I-Amthats from one i deployed a couple of weeks ago22:42
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Sam-I-Am10.5.11.11 is the host's IP and vxlan1050 is a host-based vxlan interface that i use as a hack around public cloud networking limitations (mac filtering)22:43
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mspreitz_Sam-I-Am: I assume the comment about lb0 and lb1 is junk?22:44
Sam-I-Amits probably from the original script22:46
mspreitz_Sam-I-Am: so this is a 1-node install, with 1 NIC on that node, and it's my problem to make sure that the network interface named in $LB_PHYSICAL_INTERFACE exists before running stack.sh --- right?22:46
Sam-I-Amyou can tell lb to use some ethernet interface, ideally one that isn't your management interface22:46
mspreitz_So it's really two NIC22:47
mspreitz_The $LB_PHYSICAL_INTERFACE and the regular one used for everything else22:47
mspreitz_right?22:47
mspreitz_Or is it 1 NIC, all on $LB_PHYSICAL_INTERFACE ?22:47
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mspreitz_I guess you are saying it is two NIC22:48
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Sam-I-Amits easier if you have 2 nics, but you can make it work with 122:48
mspreitz_So the $LB_PHYSICAL_INTERFACE will be used for some Neutron stuff, everything else on eth0.22:49
Sam-I-Amyeah, its where your provider/ext net bridge will bind22:49
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Sam-I-Amyou can create a veth pair with one end on eth0, call the other end eth1, and use eth1 as the lb physical interface22:50
mspreitz_The fact that your $LB_PHYSICAL_INTERFACE has "vxlan" in its name is just a coincidence, not connected to your choice of VXLAN for tenant networks, right?22:50
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Sam-I-Amcoincidence. i run host-based vxlan networks among all of my lab nodes to work around public cloud network limitations.22:51
mspreitz_got it.  thanks.22:51
Sam-I-Ami have a 'jump box' of sorts at the other end of those veth pairs that handles nat/routing22:51
Sam-I-Amis this in the cloud?22:51
Sam-I-Ams/veth pairs/vxlans22:53
Sam-I-Amtrying to multitask football :)22:53
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mspreitz_Yeah, that's an occupational hazard today.22:55
Sam-I-Ambroncos are just killing me22:55
mspreitz_Right now I am using virtual box VMs on big lab machines, so I can mock up exactly the "physical" infrastructure described in the docs.22:55
Sam-I-Amooo real hardware :)22:56
Sam-I-Ami havent had access to that in eons, so i got creative with cloud servers22:56
mspreitz_Yes.  My ultimate interests are in using infrastructure that can be either virtual or real, I need to cover several scenarios.22:56
Sam-I-Amtwo interfaces should work nicely - one for mgmt, one for neutron networks. vbox needs to allow promisc mode on the vm's interface on the neutron network.22:57
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mspreitz_I think with the fix I just back-ported, the documented scenario might work.  I am going to try that next, I would be very gratified to have some documentation that is known to work.22:57
Sam-I-Amsort of like the install guide describes22:57
Sam-I-Am(not the devstack install guide)22:58
Sam-I-Ama little docs goes a long way :)22:58
Sam-I-Amif only i could find the time to get to all the problems22:58
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Sam-I-Amtrying to sort the list of tasks by priority returns the same order :/22:58
mspreitz_Personally I think it is very misguided to neglect the devstack documentation, this presents a barrier to enlarging the tribe.22:59
Sam-I-Amfor a long time (and i think i wrote this in the bug comments), devstack just defaults to nova-net22:59
Sam-I-Amthe changes to make it work nicely with neutron are mostly in the neutron gates, so unless you go diving, you dont find it22:59
mspreitz_yes, and for a long time we have been fighting to get everything onto Neutron, right?23:00
Sam-I-Amyep23:00
Sam-I-Ami'm not sure where that battle stands23:00
mspreitz_I know how I want it to end, so that's where I am aiming.23:00
Sam-I-Ami think gate jobs for other projects might use neutron, but devstack itself doesn't23:00
Sam-I-Amdoes it end in docs?23:00
Sam-I-Ami think we ought to write up two common devstack+neutron scenarios... ovs and linuxbridge.23:01
mspreitz_I mean I want to see Neutron success, including documentation for DevStack with Neutron that works23:01
Sam-I-Amyep23:01
mspreitz_Yes, I think both OVS and LinuxBridge should have working documentation.23:02
Sam-I-Amquestion is what architecture do we choose... something super minimal (single-node, one interface) or something that's more realistic (single node w/ two interfaces + ability to add more nodes)23:04
Sam-I-Amor just document all the things23:04
Sam-I-Ama lot of the issues we see with released features come from insufficient testing in more realistic environments23:04
Sam-I-Amhence why multi-node gating is important23:04
mspreitz_I hope and suspect the doc for devstack with neutron can be modular23:04
Sam-I-Amfor example, dvr on a single node doesn't do anything.23:04
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mspreitz_Start with the simplest scenario, then describe variations.  Exhibit complete local.conf for each covered scenario.23:05
Sam-I-Ambtw, if you want to mess with linuxbridge in particular - openstack-ansible can simulate a multi-node deployment on a single host using container affinities.23:05
Sam-I-Amsomewhere on my list is hacking OVS into openstack-ansible, but time. time...23:06
Sam-I-Amand eventually OVN23:06
mspreitz_I have started learning Ansible, but have not looked into openstack-ansible yet23:06
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Sam-I-Amits pretty slick. you can do dev work on it, but its not ephemeral like devstack23:07
Sam-I-Amplus emulating multi-node deployments23:07
mspreitz_All good, to my ears23:07
mspreitz_except maybe the "emulating" part.  I want real multi-node deployments.23:07
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mspreitz_by "real" I mean something relative, it doesn't matter whether the machines are real or virtual23:08
Sam-I-Amthe emulating thing isnt too bad. it runs neutron agents in separate containers which simulates multiple network nodes.23:09
mspreitz_The way I see it, deploying OpenStack is adding a layer of virtual infrastructure on top of some given infrastructure --- which could itself be real or virtual, you don't really care.23:09
Sam-I-Ambut real multinode >> *23:09
Sam-I-Amreal multinode using VMs on infra you control is easier than VMs on someone else's infra.23:10
Sam-I-Amhence why i have to use host vxlan networks23:10
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Sam-I-Ami'm not going to do any performance testing here, thats for sure. but its fine for making sure features actually work in practice, and documenting how to make them work outside of some notes for devstack (which is another problem)23:10
mspreitz_Yeah, most virtual networks have an uncomfortable set of restrictions, for those of us who want to do general systems engineering on them.23:11
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Sam-I-Ami have a doc around here somewhere for doing multi-node openstack testing in the rax cloud23:11
mspreitz_I suppose I should qualify that --- it is virtual networks that you get from somebody else that have restrictions23:12
mspreitz_Being mainly in the provider game myself, I understand why.23:12
Sam-I-Amthe only thing i can't get around is MTU testing23:13
Sam-I-Amand that needs a lot of work, imo23:14
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Sam-I-Amtheres some things gating just doesnt sufficiently test23:14
mspreitz_There are a lot of sharp edge there, for sure.  Been cut more than a few times.23:15
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Sam-I-Ami do a lot of front-line support in #openstack and see people extremely frustrated with things that work in theory (like mtu)23:16
Sam-I-Amother things might work, but the deployment instructions are only for devstack and operators have a lot of trouble trying to make it work on a real deployment23:16
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Sam-I-Amthe networking guide needs a lot of love23:18
Sam-I-Amoh my, a fifth turnover by the broncos23:18
Sam-I-Amone of these season i might have a game i can just relax while watching23:18
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mspreitz_BTW, here is another conundrum I am facing regarding Neutron and DevStack ---- when I am using OVS and ubuntu (necessarily 14.04): which version of OVS to use, and where to get the built .debs for it?23:26
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Sam-I-Amthats a good question. i havent messed with devstack+ovs in a while, but you might try adding the cloudarchive liberty repo to your base 14.04 install and see what happens23:27
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Sam-I-Amor you could try devstack on a newer rel of ubuntu. i think it would work.23:28
Sam-I-Amalso, some of these might work - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=openvswitch23:29
Sam-I-Ambut i havent tried them23:29
Sam-I-Amsome docs for this would also be nice23:30
Sam-I-Amwhether its install a backport on 14.04 or use a newer release of ubuntu... something23:30
mspreitz_OpenStack does not work on Ubuntu 15.04 and 15.10.  I have tested it.23:30
mspreitz_s/OpenStack/devStack/23:30
Sam-I-Amew, what breaks?23:30
mspreitz_Ugh, now I don't remember exactly.  I suggested documenting this non-functionality, but was told that there is anti-interest in documenting what does not work.23:31
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Sam-I-Amis it just networking thats broken? e.g., some kernel or OVS bits23:33
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mspreitz_sorry, I do not remember.23:33
* Sam-I-Am adds another thing of list of things to test23:33
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Sam-I-Amcool, you even included my misspelling in your post :/23:35
Sam-I-Amnote to self - do not irc while bronco-ing23:35
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mspreitz_oh, sorry, didn't notice the mispelling23:38
Sam-I-Amno big deal :)23:39
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Sam-I-Ami need an easy game to watch23:39
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Sam-I-Amtwo reversed touchdown calls23:41
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mspreitz_Now here is another question about mechanics: now that I have a change under review, is there a way I can get the changed stable/liberty devstack on one of my VMs on a lab machine --- without putting my private credentials in that VM?23:46
Sam-I-Amyou can apply the patch manually, or use a fork23:47
mspreitz_(I mean aside from the obvious copying from my development machine to the VM)23:47
mspreitz_My question is, can I use git to fetch anything onto the VM?23:47
Sam-I-Ami forked openstack-ansible for these sorts of things23:48
mspreitz_I would prefer to not put my private credentials on a VM on a lab machine23:48
Sam-I-Amssh just needs a pubkey23:50
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mspreitz_huh?  `git fetch ssh://mspreitz@review.openstack.org:29418/openstack-dev/devstack refs/changes/65/263065/1` failed with "Permission denied (publickey)"23:50
mspreitz_I need my VM to hold my private key, for that to work.23:51
Sam-I-Ami have a bogus key i use for my lab boxes23:51
Sam-I-Amthink thats how i made it work23:51
mspreitz_At this point I guess it is easier to just copy.  I'll revisit later if I need something better.23:52
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Sam-I-Ami think i did the patch work on a box with real creds, pushed my changes to a fork on github, and then used 'bogus' creds on my VM to check out that branch23:53
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Sam-I-Amits easier with project reviews  - https://github.com/mestery/openstack-scripts/blob/master/devstack/control/local.conf.linuxbridge#L3823:55
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