Wednesday, 2016-01-13

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carl_baldwinamuller: ping re:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212669/36/neutron/agent/l3/ha.py  I wonder if you could just eyeball the issue that I point out there.00:05
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amullercarl_baldwin: roger00:08
amullercarl_baldwin: why not use oslo locking00:08
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amullercarl_baldwin: any method called while both updating a router and from enqueue_state_change could be wrapped by a file system lock00:09
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Sam-I-Amcarl_baldwin: whats the plan for operator docs for address scopes?00:10
carl_baldwinSam-I-Am: Point me in the right direction and I'll get started.  What repo should I be in?00:11
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Sam-I-Amcarl_baldwin: the networking guide in openstack-manuals00:12
Sam-I-Amsort of seems like this changes the way neutron works in general00:12
carl_baldwinamuller: I've been thinking about that.  Wondering if we should lock the router, the routing tables, or what.  Just trying to get the ideas out there.00:12
Sam-I-Ami havent looked into this feature yet, but its on my list of things to do00:12
Sam-I-Amwe should probably meet up at some point and figure out what to do00:15
amullercarl_baldwin: left a comment with a possible solution00:16
carl_baldwinSam-I-Am: Yes, it does change things a bit although you won't notice if you don't use address scopes.00:16
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carl_baldwinamuller: Thanks, I'll have a look.00:16
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carl_baldwinSam-I-Am: Let's figure out when to do that.  Any thoughts about when?00:18
Sam-I-Amwhenever you want. sooner the better :)00:18
carl_baldwinSam-I-Am: Thursday or Friday?  Things get a little less crazy for me those days.00:19
Sam-I-Amprimary thing is figuring out what we need to present to operators so they can figure out how to use it00:20
Sam-I-Amcarl_baldwin: how early do you function?00:20
carl_baldwinI'm not much of an early bird but I'm on meetings as early as 7am most other days anyway.  So, whatever.  :)00:22
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Sam-I-Ami can do 8 on thursday or 10-ish friday00:23
carl_baldwin10-ish Friday sounds good.00:24
Sam-I-Amok. i can just ping you here.00:25
carl_baldwinSam-I-Am: ok, I'm running home now...00:25
Sam-I-Amenjoy00:25
* carl_baldwin just put it in the calendar.00:25
Sam-I-Amrunning is hard on your knees though :)00:25
carl_baldwinSam-I-Am: So far so good.  My knees are holding up well...00:26
Sam-I-Ammine dont run well, so i cycle00:26
carl_baldwinSam-I-Am: I like cycling too.  Haven't been out for a few weeks.00:26
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Sam-I-Amits a hoot, even in the winter00:29
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Sam-I-Ammy course is about 50% ice with divots now, so its More Fun00:30
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Sam-I-Amtime for me to head out too00:30
Sam-I-Am(weird right?)00:30
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openstackgerritmin wang proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add code for load balancer status tree  https://review.openstack.org/26449900:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: Enhance the help info of "neutron router-gateway-set"  https://review.openstack.org/25933000:58
openstackgerritmin wang proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add code for load balancer status tree  https://review.openstack.org/26449900:59
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tidwellrSam-I-Am: pong01:11
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openstackgerritmin wang proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add code for load balancer status tree  https://review.openstack.org/26449901:23
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openstackgerritmin wang proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add code for load balancer status tree  https://review.openstack.org/26449901:24
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Static routes not added to qrouter namespace for DVR  https://review.openstack.org/22802601:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Add multi-node devstack support to VPNaaS  https://review.openstack.org/25750401:28
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openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Register RA and PD config options in l3-agent  https://review.openstack.org/26661302:04
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openstackgerritDongcan Ye proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: Optimize getting arp entry info  https://review.openstack.org/26634802:24
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openstackgerritLi Yingjun proposed openstack/neutron: Fixes internal server error when updating bandwidth-limit-rule  https://review.openstack.org/24468002:31
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openstackgerritli,chen proposed openstack/neutron: Pass environment variables of proxy to tox  https://review.openstack.org/26664202:35
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openstackgerritIWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed openstack/neutron: fullstack: use SIGTERM in ProcessFixture.stop  https://review.openstack.org/23135102:48
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Handle ip rule priority differently  https://review.openstack.org/26436402:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Log INFO message when setting admin state up flag to False for OVS port  https://review.openstack.org/26638302:52
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/26615703:10
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/26617203:13
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openstackgerritIWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed openstack/neutron: fullstack: use SIGTERM in ProcessFixture.stop  https://review.openstack.org/23135103:22
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armaxrussellb: ping03:55
armaxrussellb: mind eyeballing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254645/ when you have the chance? it’s relatively trivial03:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: Adding a lowercase converter in utils.py  https://review.openstack.org/26353605:40
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: get_ports should return all port for network owner  https://review.openstack.org/25528505:47
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openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Allow UPPER case in protocol/action for FW Rule  https://review.openstack.org/23839206:00
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Handle ip rule priority differently  https://review.openstack.org/26436406:37
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Fix some fixed_ip error for floatingip test  https://review.openstack.org/26673107:17
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openstackgerritBo Chi proposed openstack/neutron: Remove 'validate' key in 'type:dict_or_nodata' type  https://review.openstack.org/26631907:19
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openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron: Fixed pass wrong cidr check during create subnet  https://review.openstack.org/20194207:28
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: get_ports should return all port for network owner  https://review.openstack.org/25528507:32
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Remove floatingip addresses from router device  https://review.openstack.org/24685507:44
openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Remove floatingip addresses from router device  https://review.openstack.org/24685507:45
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: eliminate retries inside of _ensure_default_security_group  https://review.openstack.org/23108107:47
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openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Improve str2dict key validation to avoid wrong keys  https://review.openstack.org/25387807:48
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openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add --session-persistence for lb-vip-create  https://review.openstack.org/25332208:00
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/26615708:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-fwaas: Replace deprecated library function os.popen() with subprocess  https://review.openstack.org/26558808:16
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openstackgerritcaoyue proposed openstack/neutron:  Make enforce_type=True in CONF.set_override  https://review.openstack.org/26507808:18
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/26617208:19
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/os-vif: introduce vif.Config  https://review.openstack.org/26676808:23
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openstackgerritHaim Daniel proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Role-based Access Control for QoS Policies  https://review.openstack.org/25422408:23
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openstackgerritvenkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: item allocator should return same value for same key  https://review.openstack.org/26637908:31
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Use admin context when removing DVR router on vm port deletion  https://review.openstack.org/25793808:38
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Do not remove router from dvr_snat agents on dvr port deletion  https://review.openstack.org/25598908:44
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openstackgerritIWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Convert remaining use of neutronclient.i18n to _i18n  https://review.openstack.org/26679509:12
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openstackgerrityalei wang proposed openstack/neutron: Add new limit_portsec_domain attr for port  https://review.openstack.org/25003609:27
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mhickeyGood morning09:42
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openstackgerritYanFeng Sun proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: No more implicit conversion to unicode/str  https://review.openstack.org/26681509:48
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Do not remove router from dvr_snat agents on dvr port deletion  https://review.openstack.org/25598909:50
openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Use admin context when removing DVR router on vm port deletion  https://review.openstack.org/25793809:50
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openstackgerritYatin Kumbhare proposed openstack/neutron: Fix params order in assertEqual  https://review.openstack.org/26681909:58
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davidshaajo: ping10:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: Add support for ip_version on AddressScope create  https://review.openstack.org/23381010:18
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: refactor: Remove usage of useless command.command.OpenStackCommand  https://review.openstack.org/26528310:47
openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: refactor: Drop meaningless 'api' attribute from NeutronCommand class  https://review.openstack.org/26528410:47
openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: refactor: Get rid of usage of get_data in favor of take_action  https://review.openstack.org/26528510:47
openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: refactor: Avoid overriding run() in cliff command  https://review.openstack.org/26528610:47
openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: refactor: Merge all debug logging at the beginning of take_action  https://review.openstack.org/26528710:47
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openstackgerritArtur Korzeniewski proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Network OVO object  https://review.openstack.org/26427311:01
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davidshaihrachys: ping11:27
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ihrachysdavidsha: hey11:33
davidshaihrachys: hey, how are you?11:33
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ihrachysdavidsha: fine. will get to the spec in 2h. will use agent API object approach AND per extension uuid11:34
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davidshaihrachys: kk, just wanted some quick clarification, if it's up soon I'll wait.11:36
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ihrachyspc_m: have you reported a bug for test_bash_completion failure due to neutronclient deprecation warning?11:56
* ihrachys was just hit by it11:56
pc_mihrachys: no. I had not.11:57
pc_mI did figure out a workaround.11:57
ihrachysack, will report one and probably fix it11:57
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ihrachyspc_m: what's the workaround?11:57
ihrachysolder client?11:57
pc_mentered venv, installed 3.1.0 of python-neutronclient11:57
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ihrachysyeah, right11:58
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pc_mihrachys: Thanks for creating bug. I haven't had a chance to get around to it.11:59
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ihrachyspc_m: there is a fix on client side: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266795/11:59
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pc_mBTW it currently is running 4.0.0 of client.11:59
ihrachyspc_m: we still need to fix the test though11:59
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amotokipc_m: ihrachys: stable/liberty neutronclient unit test is failing?12:01
ihrachyspc_m: I would not think so. why? we should constrain there already for neutron, right?12:01
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ihrachysalso I think az is Mitaka feature12:01
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ihrachysmaybe worth having a hacking rule for not allowing more of those bad imports in neutronclient tree...12:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/26617212:02
pc_mihrachys: just saying in my local env, python-neutronclient was running 4.0.0. I had to step down to 3.1.0 to pass the test.12:02
ihrachyspc_m: you mean we catch 4.0.0 in stable/liberty?12:03
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ihrachyspc_m: for constraints target?12:03
pc_mihrachys: confused... I'm (only) talking about master.12:03
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ihrachysaye. ok, I think I know the scenario, I will do some hacking now :)12:04
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pc_mJust saying, yesterday after noon, I saw neutron UT failure. I noted that it was using 4.0.0 and that I could drop down to 3.1.0 to get it to work. The requriements say >=2.6.012:04
ihrachysright. thanks, will work with that12:05
pc_mnot sure about liberty or other branches.12:05
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pc_mWon't just merge of 266795 resolve?12:05
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ihrachyspc_m: we would need a new release for the client12:06
ihrachyspc_m: and also I suspect the test is not correct12:06
pc_mright, for neutron.12:06
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Compile OVS during stack.sh  https://review.openstack.org/26642312:08
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amotokipc_m: ihrachys: honestly I wonder why neutronclient pep8 does not detect neutronclient.i18n usage.... there is no import_exceptions defined in tox.ini, but nothing is detected...12:13
ihrachysamotoki: it's not an exception from client12:16
ihrachysamotoki: it's just a warning12:16
ihrachysamotoki: I don't think the test in neutron should even check stderr12:16
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ihrachyshonestly, some of it even seems like testing neutronclient instead of what it's supposed to target12:16
amotokiihrachys: yes. What I wonder is why flake8 check does not detect 'nutronclient.i18n import _' is not detected because it is not a module-level import. I thought flake8 detects it, but actually not.12:17
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amotokiihrachys: regarding neutron test, I totally agree that unit test should not check stderr.12:18
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ihrachysamotoki: we don't have a check for that since recently12:19
ihrachysamotoki: it was removed from global hacking checks12:19
amotokiihrachys: i wasn't aware of it. thanks12:19
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ihrachysamotoki: yeah, some folks decided it's too strict for a global requirement12:21
amotokiit might be better we have it as a local check.12:22
ihrachysamotoki: I would not mind12:22
amotokiihrachys: at least neutorncleint should check the usage of neutronclient.i18n.12:23
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Allow network owner delete tenant port from db  https://review.openstack.org/26687712:23
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amotokiihrachys: and one tricky point is neutron-debug command is a part of neutron.12:24
amotokiihrachys: it provides CLI.12:24
ihrachysI know12:24
ihrachysI will patch the tests so that they don't check stderr12:25
amotokiis it better to release neutornclient 4.0.1?12:25
amotokior 4.1.012:25
openstackgerritBence Romsics proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Proposed changes to vlan-aware-vms  https://review.openstack.org/24378612:28
ihrachysamotoki: it may take time12:28
ihrachysamotoki: it's better to fix it in neutron test too so that later regressions don't hit us12:28
amotokiihrachys: agree. makes sense12:28
ihrachysI will send a patch quickly12:28
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ihrachysjust running pep8 :)12:28
amotokithanks12:29
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scheuranHi ihrachys, want to give you a quick update on the modular agent stuff. The major patchset doing the split off is online https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24631812:29
scheuranihrachys, it would be great if you could have a look some time...12:29
ihrachysscheuran: yeah, in my todo list12:29
ihrachyswas not aware there are more pieces12:30
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scheuranihrachys, yeah no problem. We needed to wait until the extensions manager stuff merged, but now we can move forward12:30
scheuranihrachys, thanks!12:30
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scheuranihrachys, by the way, the gate failure is not related to this patch, I'll recheck...12:31
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: tests: don't assume neutronclient does not write to stderr  https://review.openstack.org/26688512:38
ihrachysamotoki: pc_m: ^12:38
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Compile OVS during stack.sh  https://review.openstack.org/26642312:39
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Make security_groups_provider_updated work with Kilo agents  https://review.openstack.org/26688612:39
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openstackgerritcaoyue proposed openstack/neutron:  Make enforce_type=True in CONF.set_override  https://review.openstack.org/26507812:43
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Make security_groups_provider_updated work with Kilo agents  https://review.openstack.org/26688612:53
openstackgerritYatin Kumbhare proposed openstack/neutron: Fix params order in assertEqual  https://review.openstack.org/26681912:54
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Make object creation methods in l3_hamode_db atomic  https://review.openstack.org/23048112:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: Convert remaining use of neutronclient.i18n to _i18n  https://review.openstack.org/26679513:01
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pc_mihrachys: had stepped out to shovel snow... will look at the review now.13:07
ihrachyspc_m: where are you located? :)13:08
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pc_mihrachys: US New Hampshire13:08
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: WIP Allow network owner delete tenant port from policy  https://review.openstack.org/26690013:09
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openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Add 'ovs' to requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/25464513:16
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dasmall. i'd like to ask about this stuff. maybe it's obvious, but i do not know the answer. maybe someone can answer this? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083861.html13:16
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Update port's status to DOWN if its binding info has changed  https://review.openstack.org/21546713:46
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Make security_groups_provider_updated work with Kilo agents  https://review.openstack.org/26688614:02
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openstackgerritting wang proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Test: make enforce_type=True in CONF.set_override and fix error  https://review.openstack.org/26692714:04
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openstackgerritting wang proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Test: make enforce_type=True in CONF.set_override and fix error  https://review.openstack.org/26692914:05
ajovikram , irenab , moshele , slaweq_work14:05
ajoping14:05
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ajoit seems, somehow, that today we have meeting (but somehow we held it last week -you did in fact-)14:06
ajodo you want a short one now ?14:06
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ajoprobably I misleaded moshele last week, or ... it was an issue with the ICS generator? :?14:06
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ihrachysajo: I suggest no matter whether we have a meeting today, you update openstack-dev@ about the issue and explicitly suggest to update their calendars from new .ics files14:09
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ihrachysajo: seems like we have a lot of mess around events, and a lot of people are still unaware about it14:09
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ajoack14:10
ajo#startmeeting neutron-qos14:10
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 13 14:10:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ajo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:10
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:10
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos'14:10
ajo#topic lonely meeting14:10
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ajoSomething seems to have happened with the ics and the biweekly week for QoS meeting has shifted. So the attendance seems to be ihrachys and me so far :)14:11
ajoanyone else?14:11
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ajook14:12
* ajo looks for the last meeting agenda in etherpad14:12
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ajoihrachys , could you update about the last drivers meeting comments on QoS RFEs?14:12
ajo#topic RFEs14:13
ihrachysajo: do you have links?14:13
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Sam-I-Ammornings14:13
ajohi Sam-I-Am  :)14:13
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: tests: don't assume neutronclient does not write to stderr  https://review.openstack.org/26688514:14
sbeloussalv-orlando: ping14:14
ajohmmk bandwidth14:14
ajoihrachys, did you realized we started the meeting in #openstack-neutron ?14:14
ajoI didn't know we could do that14:14
ajosorry guys14:14
ihrachysouch14:14
ajowe -> I14:15
ihrachyslet's proceed quickly14:15
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ihrachysok, for 802.1p https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505631 I think the decision is we need to understand the use cases better14:15
openstackihrachys: Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1505631 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1505631). The error has been logged14:15
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ihrachysalso https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1521194 was raised yesterday (aggregated bandwidth by vikram)14:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1521194 in neutron "Qos Aggregated Bandwidth Rate Limiting" [Wishlist,Triaged]14:16
ihrachysI think for that one the decision is we should update the docs if needed, and forget the idea unless we have clear understanding how we implement it in non-naive way14:17
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ihrachysprobably that's it for RFEs?14:17
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ajocorrect, on that one we need to discuss implementation, and the RFE modifies the current agreed/documented behavior, which may be it's counter intuitive and needs to be better documented.14:17
ajoihrachys: yes, thanks14:17
ajo#topic status14:17
ajo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qos-mitaka14:17
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ajoabout RPC callback upgrade mechanism, I have this: https://review.openstack.org/265347 , where I need to fix some comments, and14:18
ajoadd another patch on top to complete the functionality14:18
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ajoreviews are appreciated14:18
ihrachysyes, I owe you one14:19
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ajonp, I'm advancing on it, anytime will be good. I'm sure I'd already have reviews if it was posted earlier.14:19
openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/neutron: HACKING: updtae HACKING.rst file to include latest changes  https://review.openstack.org/26693514:20
ajonjohnston, ihrachys , what's the status on the UUID api for DSCP ?14:20
ihrachysajo: I am working on the spec, need to respin one more time14:20
ihrachyswill upload today.14:20
openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron: lb: ml2-agt: Separate AgentLoop from LinuxBridge specific impl  https://review.openstack.org/24631814:20
ajoihrachys , link?14:20
ihrachyshttps://review.openstack.org/26381914:20
ajogreat14:21
ihrachysalso davidsha will work on the code14:21
ajoabout rbac,14:21
ihrachyswhich is nice since I can review then :)14:21
ajoYep :)14:21
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davidshaihrachys, ajo: I'm here, sorry just noticed!14:22
ajoQoS/RBAC: spec with good feedback is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254224/14:22
ajoit needs drivers attention now14:22
ihrachysajo: for rbac, I would say the more interesting part is the implementation14:22
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ajoyep, code is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250081/14:22
ihrachysajo: I guess armax should be reached to merge it. I don't believe there is any reason not to.14:22
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ajospec seems good, and I already did a couple of reviews on the code, but I don't remember now, I will need to re-review14:23
ihrachysfor what I know, hdaniel is currently working on refactoring the patch, so may wait until that with reviews14:23
ajoack14:23
ajohdaniel++14:23
ajonjohnston, any update for DSCP markings?14:23
ajo(sorry, this is a phantom neutron-qos meeting on the wrong channel, trying to cut it quickly ;-) )14:24
davidshaNothing on dscp atm14:24
njohnstonI am working on the functional tests; Vic Howard uploaded API tests a couple of days ago, and then we tackle fullstack/tempest14:24
davidshaSorry!14:24
ajonjohnston, great  :)14:24
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njohnstonother than that I think we're mostly waiting on the prerequisites.  davidsha, have you rebased the dscp patch against the 2 prereqs?14:25
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davidshano, not yet.14:25
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njohnstonok, whoever needs to respin next might want to do that :-)  Hopefully it will be me with functional tests.14:26
ajoawesome, thanks for the update :)14:26
ihrachysthere is no patch to rebase on my side14:26
ihrachys:)14:26
davidshaI'm working on that!14:26
ajoack14:27
ajoabout the gate,14:27
ajoihrachys , could you update on : https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:neutron-tempest-gate-hook,n,z  ?14:27
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ihrachysyeah, gate...14:28
ihrachyswe wait on job name discussion14:28
ajook,14:28
ihrachyswhich is silly but yeah14:28
ajoso we may propose names14:28
ihrachysdiscussion here https://review.openstack.org/24769714:28
ajolike allplugins14:28
ihrachyswaiting for dougwig response14:28
ajoor something like that14:28
ihrachysI am impressed how long it takes14:29
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ihrachysI mean not the response but the overall effort to gate on it14:29
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ajoPolitics, resources, risk, and of course, names  :)14:30
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ajoThanks for working on it ihrachys14:30
ihrachysmy pleasure14:30
ajoOk, let's keep it short, unless somebody believes we're missing something important14:31
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ajoI'll move the conversation to the list so others can participate, and make a reminder that next week there's no planned meeting, but the one after the next.14:31
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ajoihrachys , davidsha , njohnston , ack? :)14:32
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davidshaack14:32
njohnstonSounds good to me. :-)14:32
ihrachysack14:32
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ihrachysajo: wanna #endmeeting?14:33
ajo#endmeeting14:34
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ajothanks :)14:34
davidshathanks14:34
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dasmajo: it was quick :)14:34
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openstackgerritting wang proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Test: make enforce_type=True in CONF.set_override and fix error  https://review.openstack.org/26692914:37
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/neutron: HACKING: update HACKING.rst file to include latest changes  https://review.openstack.org/26693514:40
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regXboimorning all14:50
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Sam-I-AmregXboi: moo.14:51
regXboiis it me, or is the gate having issues again?14:51
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Sam-I-Amwhere in specific?14:53
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dougwigihrachys, ajo: the shorter the better, since it'll be sprayed all over gerrit once that template is in general use.14:54
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regXboiSam-I-Am: neutron.test.unit.debug.test_shell.ShellTest.test_bash_completion is failing on an assertion error related to neutronclient._i18n14:55
regXboiSam-I-Am: see https://jenkins04.openstack.org/job/gate-neutron-python27-constraints/1250/console14:55
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ihrachysdougwig: no, it's just for one job14:55
ihrachysI don't expect to copy it anywhere14:56
ihrachysregXboi: I have a patch for that14:56
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regXboiiharchys: ok, so it's not just me :)14:56
dougwigihrachys: ahh, then -adv, or -expanded, or whatever.14:56
ihrachysregXboi: https://review.openstack.org/26688514:56
ihrachysdougwig: or on-steroids :D14:56
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dougwigihrachys: lol14:56
vikramihrachys, ajo: ping14:57
ihrachysdougwig: I don't mind either way, I thought people with specific requirements will give me specific wording to use14:57
ihrachysvikram: aye14:57
regXboiihrachys, channel: can we get 266585 in pronto?14:57
regXboiI'm seeing gate failures because of it14:57
vikramihrachys: Need your help ..14:57
regXboier 266885 that is14:57
vikramihrachys: Can you have a look at "https://beta.etherpad.org/p/Notepad" and let me know about your view14:57
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ihrachysdougwig: can you review/merge https://review.openstack.org/266885 ? they say gate is broken without it14:58
regXboidougwig: morning14:58
dougwigihrachys: looking14:58
regXboiihrachys, dougwig: I can confirm the gate is broken without it - I had a gate job fail last night on that very problem14:58
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ihrachysregXboi: it's funny that people see failures but no one reports a bug14:59
ihrachysI don't even talk about fixing one14:59
ihrachysbut at least a report is easy14:59
regXboiihrachys: I just saw the failure this morning (US central time) and was asking if it was just me14:59
regXboiso I'll go file a bug for you now14:59
vikramihrachys: I am not hurry... Plz take your time ;)15:00
ihrachysregXboi: I did15:00
ihrachysregXboi: but I have seen pc_m was hit by it yesterday too15:00
dougwigihrachys, regXboi: doesn't that patch mask any stack bombs that might creep in?15:00
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regXboiihrachys: ok - I *would* have filed a bug if you hadn't already - I just like to confirm before I start a red herring15:00
ihrachysdougwig: stack bombs? tell me15:00
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dougwigihrachys: if the client has a random failure due to world breakage?15:01
dougwigunderstand that it's very early here.15:01
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dougwigi am not awake yet.  :)15:01
regXboidougwig: isn't that the problem we are trying to fix?15:01
ihrachysdougwig: how is it bad not failing on client issue and allowing just the client gate to fail?15:01
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ihrachysdougwig: I understand what you mean. I just think it's not neutron gate job to validate client sanity15:02
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ihrachysI would even clean up some of those tests that test e.g. help or bash-completion commands. Seems silly.15:02
pc_mregXboi: Yes, I saw this at the end of the day yesterday, and asked on the channel, if anyone saw it. No response, so I fiddled with older version and it worked. Hand't done more, before ihar mentioned this morning.15:02
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dougwigso, the fix masks the deprecation warning, which is a useless stderr.  but it's implictly checking for any kind of error, so anything that is *not* useless stderr output is a valid test fail (tracebacks, e.g.).15:03
dougwigright?15:03
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regXboipc_m: the failure I saw didn't come in while I was online yesterday, so ...15:03
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regXboidougwig: are you saying that we should patch neutronclient instead?15:04
dougwigi'm saying you might as well delete the test, or try to just strip the deprecation warning.15:04
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dougwigi think i'd be more in favor of disabling the test until the client is sorted out.15:05
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ihrachysdougwig: is it even the job for neutron to validate client does not output anything on stderr? I did not know about any public advertisement like that from the client.15:06
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ihrachysdougwig: it's up to client folks to output anything on stderr, or not15:06
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dougwigihrachys: that's why i brought up deleting the test, since it's odd to be testing the client at all.w15:06
ihrachysnothing is guaranteed in this regard15:06
regXboiyeah, I'd argue this test should be in neutronclient and not here15:07
openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Change create/update ha router logic  https://review.openstack.org/25705915:07
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regXboiso I'm thinking let's just disable the test and see about moving it to neutronclient.  if it is already there, then it can go away from here15:07
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regXboior in other words - I like dougwig's idea15:07
ihrachysdougwig: I think the main test there that can't be deleted is the one that runs some neutron-debug specific commands. specifically test_help_on_subcommand.15:08
ihrachyshm, on second thought, it does not really validate that the help message is there.15:08
ihrachysor it's correct15:08
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regXboiihrachys: you beat me to it15:08
ihrachysI guess I lean to killing all those tests.15:08
ihrachyslemme update15:09
regXboisure15:09
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: tests: stop validating neutronclient in neutron-debug tests  https://review.openstack.org/26688515:18
ihrachysdougwig: regXboi: pc_m: amotoki: ^15:18
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regXboiihrachys: wfm15:19
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amotokiihrachys: after seeing dougwig's comment and checking test_shell, it seems we can drop test_shell itself.15:24
openstackgerritVictor Howard proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: [WIP] python neutronclient changes to reflect DSCP QoS implementation  https://review.openstack.org/25428015:24
amotokiihrachys: it just tests features from neutronclient.shell. thought?15:24
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Agent specific API for L2 agent extensions  https://review.openstack.org/26381915:30
ihrachysdavidsha: ^ hopefully now covers all concerns15:31
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ihrachysamotoki: yeah, you are probably right15:31
ihrachyslet me kill it :)15:31
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amotokiihrachys: thanks15:32
ihrachysamotoki: ^ hopefully that's it15:33
ihrachysouch too quick15:33
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: tests: stop validating neutronclient in neutron-debug tests  https://review.openstack.org/26688515:33
ihrachys^ that one15:33
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amotoki^^)15:33
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davidshaihrachys: I actually assumed this was what you meant, no changes to what I've done :)15:34
ihrachysdavidsha: aye :) there was some change back and forth. you have a patch?15:35
davidshaihrachys: I want to go through it and test there isn't any weird behavior before putting it up.15:36
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ihrachysdavidsha: cool.15:38
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ihrachysvikram: will eventually check it but not as a high priority15:44
vikramihrachys: sure15:44
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: gate_hook: add support for dsvm-plus job type  https://review.openstack.org/24767115:56
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Sukhdevihrachys : Hi addressed your comment on this patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258667/ - can you please have a look, please15:57
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haleybobondarev: so pagination was just a bug fix then, guess i always saw it as a performance issue16:01
obondarevhaleyb: it's kind of performance issue on the agent side, but it's separate16:02
obondarevhaleyb: the blueprint is about simplifying things on server side16:02
haleybobondarev: ok, thanks.  re-reviewing pagination is first on my list today...16:03
obondarevhaleyb: great, thank you!16:03
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: Controller and test refactor  https://review.openstack.org/24103516:04
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: Fixes and tests for the policy enforcement hook  https://review.openstack.org/23445716:05
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sc68calihrachys: So we enable advertising MTUs in devstack via https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265904/1 - does Neutron correctly calculate the MTU when it's the multinode? we may need to hardcode that in the job configuration or in devstack-gate, since it has the GRE tunnel that is created between nodes16:08
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sc68caltaking into account the double encap16:08
ihrachyssc68cal: hm, lemme think16:09
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Sam-I-Amneutron doesnt calculate any mtu :/16:10
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sc68calihrachys: So you have that patch that forces MTU down to 140016:10
Sam-I-Amyou can either add the option manually to the dnsmasq config, or set the neutron config option that essentially does the same thing16:11
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ihrachysSam-I-Am: it actually does16:12
ihrachysSam-I-Am: just not enough for gate case I guess16:12
sc68calihrachys: so - if it's GRE and vxlan - 1466 is the max mtu?16:12
Sam-I-Am1454 is max for gre, 1450 vxlan iirc16:12
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sc68cal4 bytes for GRE - 50 bytes for vxlan16:12
Sam-I-Amsc68cal: why does the gate job tunnel the tunnels?16:12
Sam-I-Amsince those are plain old ip, mac filtering should not impact them like it does flat-type networks16:13
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sc68calSam-I-Am: because of this - https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/multinode_setup_info.txt16:14
ihrachyssc68cal: seems like we miss hook to change constants.DEFAULT_NETWORK_MTU value16:14
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ihrachyssc68cal: ah we actually have ath_mtu16:16
ihrachyssorry, path_mtu16:16
Sam-I-Amsc68cal: that doc is a bit vague16:16
Sam-I-Amwhat gets used for local_ip?16:16
russellbwhat's the best qos API doc?  is it https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/liberty/qos-api-extension.html ?16:17
russellbajo: ^ ?16:17
sc68calihrachys: ack16:17
ihrachyssc68cal: sorry need to run. if you don't come up with a patch for that, I will handle it tomorrow16:17
sc68calihrachys: ok, i'm at midcycle so I'll let you handle it. no rush :)16:18
haleybSam-I-Am: local_ip in devstack is the IP on eth016:18
ihrachyssc68cal: I believe it's still reasonable to have the advertise_mtu option on in devstack16:18
ihrachyssc68cal: ack sir. cu.16:18
sc68calihrachys: agree with you, for liberty16:18
Sam-I-Amhaleyb: in which case there's no double-encap for private networks16:18
ihrachyssc68cal: if we merge your default=True patch earlier, I am happy to propose for liberty only16:18
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sc68calihrachys: cool. talk to you later :)16:19
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Sam-I-Amhowever, flat nets are encap'd, but dont know they are because of the gre tunnel between br-ex's16:19
haleybSam-I-Am: but i did see you mention the multinode config, which is different in the check queue, right?  I'll just butt-out :)16:19
Sam-I-Amhaleyb: thats what i'm trying to figure out16:20
Sam-I-Ammy multi-node labs all reside in the cloud and i think i do something similar to the multi-node gate job16:20
Sam-I-Ambr-ex attaches to a tunnel and private overlay networks just use eth0's ip16:20
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sc68calI don't know if eth0's ip is used for local_ip in the gate16:21
* Sam-I-Am looks16:21
Sam-I-Amit uses a 10.x IP in this particular case16:21
Sam-I-Ami wonder what that is16:22
haleybit is probably set, in devstack it defaults to it from what i remember, but in multinode you sometimes have a second interface just for the data netwrok16:22
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sc68calit's probably set in devstack-gate16:22
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Sam-I-Aminteresting... in multinode, the host IPs are all 10.x16:24
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Sam-I-Amguess this require diving into how the vms are kicked off... i dont see public IPs anywhere16:26
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Sam-I-Amanyway, if the value of local_ip in multi-node jobs is not tunneled again... mtu of 1450-ish should work16:28
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openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/os-vif: Import of code from https://github.com/jaypipes/os_vif  https://review.openstack.org/26637716:28
sc68calSam-I-Am: ack16:28
Sam-I-Amthe multinode gate setup doc does not talk about that stuff16:28
sc68calnope.16:28
Sam-I-Amit just talks about how to make br-ex work, which makes sense16:29
sc68calhmm... devstack-gate sets mtu to 145016:29
* Sam-I-Am senses something to fix16:29
sc68calhttps://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/functions.sh#n101116:29
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Sam-I-Amthats for the inter br-ex tunnel?16:30
sc68calyeah the GRE tunnel between nodes16:31
Sam-I-Amhttps://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate.sh#L67416:31
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: Always associate plugins with resource  https://review.openstack.org/26043916:31
sc68caloh nice find16:32
Sam-I-Amseems to me you could just leave the default for br-ex and the gre tunnel and set the mtu of the vm smaller16:32
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Sam-I-Ami've never had to futz with br-ex or my inter-host tunnel mtus16:32
sc68calSam-I-Am: that sounds reasonable. This code was most likely written way before the mtu advertisement work was done in neutron16:33
Sam-I-Amsc68cal: which unfortunately only does one thing... advertise it via dhcp16:33
Sam-I-Ami wish it would handle end-to-end mtu, which is what the spec was supposed to accomplish16:33
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Sam-I-Amgood thing is we're working with all <=1500 here, so just setting the vm to use a smaller mtu should work16:34
sc68calthe joy of path mtu discovery16:34
Sam-I-Ambut its a known problem that setting any mtu >1500 breaks16:34
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Sam-I-Ambecause the bits between VM and physnet are stuck16:34
Sam-I-Amtheoretically icmp should say no, but theres a lot of moving parts16:35
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scheuranarmax, ping16:36
Sam-I-Amif a vm using an overlay sends a packet larger than the mtu of the underlying link, the tunnel endpoint should receive the icmp notification, not the vm16:36
Sam-I-Amnot sure if/how that information would get passed up to the vm16:36
Sam-I-Amsuch is the life of tunneling16:36
Sam-I-Amwhich is why we probably need to make sure all the in-between mtus are at least as large as the vm's mtu16:37
haleybi don't think the vm will ever get any mtu packet, even if it just sends something larger than the tunnel mtu, since it's "invisible" that there is a tunnel there16:38
Sam-I-Amyeah, thats what i'm saying16:38
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Sam-I-Amhence why it is the operator's responsibility to make sure the in-between things will handle the largest packet sent by the vm16:39
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Sam-I-Amcurrently thats not the case16:39
haleybusually you see it as a tcp failure, but it's painful to debug, ping can find it changing the packet size16:39
Sam-I-Amin some cases stuff just hangs, like things with DF set16:40
Sam-I-Amssh likes to set DF during key exchange16:40
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openstackgerritJas Singh proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: fix: can't get authentication with os-token and os-url (long term fix)  https://review.openstack.org/26702016:41
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mhickeyihrachys: ping16:42
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Sukhdevmestery, armax, garyk: I think this stable/kilo patch requires two core approvals (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258667) - can you have a look as well?16:47
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yalieping kevinbenton16:55
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Sam-I-Amsc68cal: heading to an appt. we should discuss this more in-depth.. both general neutron and gating16:57
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yaliekevinbenton: could you help to check the new implement of limit-portsec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250036/17:01
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Sukhdevarmax: can I have you take a quick look at this please - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25866717:03
armaxSukhdev: yes, stand by17:04
Sukhdevarmax : cool - thanks17:04
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tiswansoHi core reviewers... would one of you be able to unabandon this change so I can submit a new patch for it and take it over?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177777/17:13
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: Controller and test refactor  https://review.openstack.org/24103517:13
dougwigtiswanso: done17:14
tiswansodougwig: thank you!17:14
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openstackgerritSridar Kandaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: [WIP] FWaaS V2 Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/26704617:21
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armaxSukhdev: note my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258667/17:26
armaxSukhdev: that’s the extra feedback I promised you17:26
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Sukhdevarmax: Thanks - So that I Understand correctly, the project-config patch (to include check-requirements) should be for all the branches17:30
Sukhdevarmax: or just for the backports?17:30
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armaxgo to master first17:33
armaxand then backport it to liberty and kilo17:34
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Sukhdevarmax : got it - will take care of right away17:34
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openstackgerritVictor Howard proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: python neutronclient changes to reflect DSCP QoS implementation  https://review.openstack.org/25428017:37
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Remove ignore_old_routes from routes_updated  https://review.openstack.org/26657217:39
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openstackgerritTimothy Swanson proposed openstack/neutron: Fix floatingip status for an HA router  https://review.openstack.org/17777717:54
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openstackgerritTimothy Swanson proposed openstack/neutron: Fix floatingip status for an HA router  https://review.openstack.org/17777717:56
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openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/os-vif: Import of code from https://github.com/jaypipes/os_vif  https://review.openstack.org/26637717:56
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: Always associate plugins with resource  https://review.openstack.org/26043917:58
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mhickeySam-I-Am: Hey18:10
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pc_mmestery: armax: Can one of you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265807/, as it needs a Neutron liaison review.18:16
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tidwellrSam-I-Am: ping18:31
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armaxdougwig: ping18:48
dougwigarmax: ack18:48
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Pass environment variables of proxy to tox  https://review.openstack.org/26664218:51
manjeets1anybody expert on python-neutronclient ?18:51
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Pass environment variables of proxy to tox  https://review.openstack.org/26664218:51
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: tests: stop validating neutronclient in neutron-debug tests  https://review.openstack.org/26688518:55
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: tests: stop validating neutronclient in neutron-debug tests  https://review.openstack.org/26688518:56
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Static routes not added to qrouter namespace for DVR  https://review.openstack.org/22802618:57
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Static routes not added to qrouter namespace for DVR  https://review.openstack.org/22802618:57
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anteayacarl_baldwin: nice email19:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-vif: Import of code from https://github.com/jaypipes/os_vif  https://review.openstack.org/26637719:34
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carl_baldwinanteaya: thanks.  I'm working on my communication skills.  :)19:40
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amullercarl_baldwin: I always assumed that we'd go with option 2 when the idea of upper-contraints was floated19:44
anteayacarl_baldwin: very polished, I think it was nicely worded19:44
amullercarl_baldwin: TBH I never even considered that we'd be broken when upper-contraints was bumped =p19:44
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carl_baldwinanteaya: Thanks again.19:48
carl_baldwinamuller: I hadn't considered it either until I analyzed today's gate failure.19:49
openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: when updating port's fixed_ips, update arp  https://review.openstack.org/26377219:50
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: when updating port's fixed_ips, update arp  https://review.openstack.org/26377219:59
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jlibosva1russellb: hi, thanks for reviewing the ovs build patch. I have a question wrt some step I don't understand.20:10
russellbok20:10
jlibosva1russellb: what kind of config file does tox generate?20:10
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jlibosva1russellb: or is it ovn specific?20:11
russellbi was wondering myself, i think that can be removed20:11
jlibosva1russellb: ah, ok :) thanks20:11
russellbhm, it was explicitly added https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233195/ jlibosva120:12
russellbtox executed here http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/networking-ovn/tree/devstack/override-defaults#n1120:14
russellbguess we should be able to move the pip install there then20:14
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Fix URLs for pep8, and unit tests jobs  https://review.openstack.org/26713920:14
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openstackgerritNate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: DSCP QoS rule implementation  https://review.openstack.org/25173820:21
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russellbjlibosva: i tried to clarify a bit with https://review.openstack.org/26714520:23
jlibosvarussellb: I'm working in parallel on patch for ovn to re-use the compile_ovs() from neutron lib. I can include it there.20:25
russellbcool20:25
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jlibosvarussellb: something like http://paste.openstack.org/show/483814/20:26
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russellbjlibosva: very nice20:27
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Fix floatingip status for an HA router  https://review.openstack.org/17777720:28
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openstackgerritManjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Fix typo in test path in Testing.rst  https://review.openstack.org/26715020:29
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openstackgerritJas Singh proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: fix: can't get authentication with os-token and os-url (long term fix)  https://review.openstack.org/26702020:32
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Compile OVS during stack.sh  https://review.openstack.org/26642320:42
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openstackgerritSlawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/neutron: ML2: verify if required extension drivers are loaded  https://review.openstack.org/25385320:57
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SDubhey guys, was wondering if anyone could help me with upgrading my neutron db from icehouse to juno21:04
SDubgetting the error "Can't locate revision identified by 'juno'"21:04
SDubseems like a version issue with my repo, but I'm using the juno repos21:04
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openstackgerritNate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: DSCP QoS rule implementation  https://review.openstack.org/25173821:14
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regXboiSam-I-Am: ping :)21:27
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openstackgerritJohn Davidge proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add support for default subnetpools API  https://review.openstack.org/24254721:27
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openstackgerritPaul Michali proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Redirect shims for new neutron-lib routines  https://review.openstack.org/24221921:39
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spandhekevinbenton: hey kevin, would you like to discuss the scaling improvements in Neutron? Also, from performance point of view, is it better to add a lot subnets to one network or add less subnets to one network?21:51
kevinbentonspandhe: from the dataplane perspective, lots of subnets on one network will result in a lot of broadcast traffic21:54
spandheregXboi: kevinbenton suggested talking to you about scale improvements in Neutron. I am interested in knowing what sort of problems were observed and how they were solved21:54
regXboispandhe: what time zone are you in? I'm in the middle of trying to close down for the day21:54
kevinbentonspandhe: but from the control-plane, lots of subnets on one network shouldn't be a big difference compared to lots of networks with one subnet each21:54
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spandhekevinbenton: what would be the source of that broadcast? we have L3 tor so we dont see a lot of broadcast.21:55
kevinbentonspandhe: well if each subnet is a separate broadcast domain, then it wouldn't matter21:55
spandheregXboi: I am in pacific time. What timezone are you in? I can ping you later21:55
regXboispandhe: I'm in central, but I need to shut down early today for domestic things21:56
spandhekevinbenton: right. so that shouldnt be a problem..21:56
kevinbentonspandhe: so there has been work over the last several cycles working on all kinds of different things by different people related to performancs21:56
spandheregXboi: ok. we can talk tomorrow.21:56
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kevinbentondvr RPC stuff, l3 agent internal stuff, security groups rpc stuff, iptables wiring stuff, etc21:57
kevinbentoni don't think it's all been collected in a central place anywhere21:57
regXboikevinbenton: the closest is the hyper-scale etherpad I started21:57
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spandhekevinbenton: ok.. I see. so database queries/ api calls etc were not considered21:57
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kevinbentonspandhe: yes, they are21:58
kevinbentonspandhe: database queries from api calls are usually overlapping with RPC calls21:59
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spandhekevinbenton: what do you mean by dvr rpc stuff? only related to dvr? also, were there any numbers captured with thousands of networks and subnets?22:00
kevinbentonspandhe: dvr rpc stuff would be like retrieving all routers and ports from the DB for a given l3 agent22:00
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kevinbentonspandhe: i don't think anyone has published numbers with thousands of networks and subnets22:01
kevinbentonspandhe: but when i'm doing these types of improvements, that's usually the numbers i fill the database with22:01
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, hi22:02
spandhekevinbenton: I see, ok.. we are going to run some numbers as we are going into production.. will share with the community.. we are on juno though, so we probably missed a lot of improvements22:02
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regXboispandhe: we will talk tomorrow22:03
kevinbentonspandhe: yeah, that's going to be missing quite a few :(22:03
spandheregXboi: sounds good.22:03
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spandhekevinbenton: can you point me to dvr perf improvements? Ill see if I can do something similar to help in our situation22:04
kevinbentonspandhe: i think regXboi has pointers to the dvr work22:04
kevinbentonspandhe: i can go through my commit history and find ones related to perf22:05
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spandhekevinbenton: its not urgent. we can find tomorrow when regXboi is here.22:07
openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron: Add --dry-run mode to code review abandon tool  https://review.openstack.org/26719422:07
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spandhekevinbenton: I think I found the commits with word peformance in the commit message22:13
ZZelle_kevinbenton, about https://review.openstack.org/205631, i am a bit lost22:14
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ZZelle_by your last comment22:15
openstackgerritmin wang proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add code for load balancer status tree  https://review.openstack.org/26449922:15
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, indeed we don't what is the vif_type of a port before it's bound?22:15
dd_had a question on development of RequestExtension for neutron api22:16
ZZelle_kevinbenton, indeed we don't KNOW what is the vif_type of a port before it's bound?22:16
dd_is there anyone who can help me ?22:16
kevinbentonspandhe: here are perf related patches i did back to start of 2015: http://paste.openstack.org/show/483819/22:19
kevinbentonZZelle_: hey, sorry about the delay22:20
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kevinbentonZZelle_: you're right22:21
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kevinbentonZZelle_: i think i meant binding:profile22:21
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kevinbentonZZelle_: yeah, binding:vnic_type and binding:profile that could affect binding choices by the driver22:23
mlavallekevinbenton: are you in San Antonio?22:23
kevinbentonmlavalle: i am!22:23
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mlavallekevinbenton: any plans for dinner tonight?22:24
kevinbentonmlavalle: yes, the whole group is going to some place downtown22:24
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kevinbentonmlavalle: let me get details22:24
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kevinbentonmlavalle: Rosario's Mexican Cafe Y Cantina at 7pm22:25
mlavallekevinbenton: please count me in :-)22:26
kevinbentonmlavalle: sounds good22:26
ZZelle_kevinbenton, honestly i have a poor knowledge of binding profile feature22:26
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kevinbentonZZelle_: so a driver gets called with all of the details passed in the port create or port update request22:26
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, but if a mechanism doesn't use binding:profile information, it will ignore them and we get the same trouble?22:27
kevinbentonZZelle_: and it uses that info to determine if can bind that port22:27
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kevinbentonZZelle_: yes22:28
kevinbentonZZelle_: but the OVS one, etc do22:28
kevinbentonZZelle_: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/mech_agent.py#L4422:28
kevinbentonZZelle_: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/mech_agent.py#L6322:29
kevinbentonZZelle_: which is why just host reachability isn't enough22:29
mlavallekevinbenton: sorry to bother you, there are two. is it the one at 910 Alamo ST in Downtown?22:29
kevinbentonmlavalle: yeah, downtown22:30
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, iiuc currently dhcp port information is not available when scheduling as the port is created after the network is scheduled on specific agents?22:37
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, so we have to assume the vnic_type is VNIC_NORMAL?22:37
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kevinbentonZZelle_: the agents do report back the interface driver they are using22:39
kevinbentonZZelle_: does the dhcp agent have any code that sets the vnic type?22:40
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kevinbentonZZelle_: if not, we could assume VNIC_NORMAL22:40
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, how is it related to vnic_type? interface_driver allows to deduce the vif_type22:41
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, no we cannot, we could assume VNIC_NORMAL if we assume everyone will use neutron.agent.linux.dhcp but nothing disallow to implement a sriov dhcp driver22:42
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kevinbentonZZelle_: so i think we should then have the neutron.agent.linux.dhcp report back a vnic type as part of it's configuration as VNIC_NORMAL22:42
openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: Add action specific functions for arp_entry_update  https://review.openstack.org/26435622:42
openstackgerritJas Singh proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: fix: can't get authentication with os-token and os-url (long term fix)  https://review.openstack.org/26702022:42
kevinbentonZZelle_: then the scheduler would call the ml2 drivers with host, vnic_type tuples22:43
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, which vnic_tuples?22:43
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kevinbentoni mean a tuple of (host, VNIC_TYPE)22:43
ZZelle_kevinbenton, but we don't know it22:44
kevinbentonand VNIC_TYPE would be whatever the dhcp agent reports to the server22:44
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kevinbentonthen we update the in-tree agent to report NORMAL as it's type22:44
kevinbentonsince it doesn't have any logic to use any other type right now: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/linux/dhcp.py#L1128-L113522:45
ZZelle_kevinbenton, it doesn't have any logic to use any other type in-tree22:45
openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: Add action specific functions for arp_entry_update  https://review.openstack.org/26435622:45
kevinbentonZZelle_: right, that's what i just said :)22:46
kevinbentonZZelle_: what i mean is we have it report NORMAL always for the in-tree one22:46
kevinbentonZZelle_: since it doesn't have logic to use a different22:46
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kevinbentonZZelle_: but someone could write a dhcp agent to use a different type22:46
kevinbentonZZelle_: so we want to establish that agents should report the VNIC type22:46
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kevinbentonZZelle_: or we could have the logic say that if they don't report a type, assume VNIC_NORMAL and we pass that to all of the ml2 drivers22:48
openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-lib: WIP - Move minimal db/context/policy gunk  https://review.openstack.org/26721422:48
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, is the usecase you described possible if neutron is correctly deployed?22:49
kevinbentonZZelle_: drivers with different VNIC types?22:50
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, ie: a dhcp-agent needs for example OVS port which means an OVS L2-agent should be running on the dhcp-agent host? so the condition should be always verified?22:51
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ZZelle_except if the deployment is invalid22:51
kevinbentonZZelle_: so it's a bit contrived, but the host could be running two agents22:51
kevinbentonZZelle_: one for sr-iov for example22:51
kevinbentonZZelle_: and one for OVS22:52
kevinbentonZZelle_: and the OVS one might not have access to the network22:52
kevinbentonZZelle_: but the sr-iov one does22:52
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kevinbentonZZelle_: so one agent will say it can reach a network22:52
kevinbentonZZelle_: and another will say it cannot22:52
ZZelle_kevinbenton, no22:52
ZZelle_kevinbenton, the method filters hosts not agents22:52
kevinbentonZZelle_: i know, but you won't filter hosts22:53
kevinbentonZZelle_: because the mech driver for sr-iov will say that it can reach that network22:53
kevinbentonZZelle_: it will say host A can reach that network22:53
kevinbentonZZelle_: but that's only via SR-IOV, which the dhcp agent will not use22:53
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kevinbentonZZelle_: i.e. SR-IOV agent says host A can reach net X and OVS will say host A cannot reach net X22:54
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kevinbentonZZelle_: they are both right, so we need more info to determine that SR-IOV wouldn't be able to bind the vnic_type we want22:55
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, do we want to support this case? if we want to support it means dhcp scheduler should support the case where multiple dhcp agents run on the same host and we should not deploy the network on agents on the same host22:55
kevinbentonZZelle_: so if we passed in VNIC_NORMAL, SR-IOV would then say that host A cannot reach net X since it's the wrong VNIC22:55
kevinbentonZZelle_: it's not multiple dhcp agents on the same host22:55
kevinbentonZZelle_: in this scenario SR-IOV isn't used for dhcp22:56
kevinbentonZZelle_: it's just a host with a dhcp agent that uses OVS22:56
kevinbentonZZelle_: and it supports SR-IOV as well for nova or whatever22:56
kevinbentonZZelle_: so two different l2 agents22:56
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kevinbentonZZelle_: one dhcp agent22:56
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, it doesn't look like a real usecase22:57
kevinbentonZZelle_: a compute node can very easily run both agents22:57
kevinbentonZZelle_: a flavor would determine if it a VM should be booted with SR-IOV22:57
kevinbentonZZelle_: or OVS22:58
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-lib: WIP - Move minimal db/context/policy gunk  https://review.openstack.org/26721423:00
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kevinbentonZZelle_: the only thing that is a bit contrived is the OVS agent not having access to the same networks as SR-IOV23:01
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kevinbentonZZelle_: but it could be possible if the SR-IOV card is wired up to a different switch23:01
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, do we really want to support such usecase?23:06
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kevinbentonZZelle_: it's stuff that already works. it would just be a bug in the dhcp agent scheduler if we fail to take this into account23:07
kevinbentonZZelle_: if we are adding this interface to ML2, it should be correct so it can be useful for other cases23:07
kevinbentonZZelle_: e.g. what if we want a Nova scheduler filter to ask Neutron if it can bind a host to a network?23:07
kevinbentonZZelle_: it will need to provide this same VNIC info23:07
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, it's a non-agile approach: we add code to support a case which doesn't exist at the moment23:09
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kevinbentonit's a case that already exists23:09
kevinbentoncompute nodes can run multiple agents23:09
kevinbentonif we proceed forward just asking ml2 mech drivers if they can reach a host, it's not asking the right question23:10
ZZelle_kevinbenton, and nova doesn't ask neutron when scheduling, it uses the crashing approach23:10
kevinbentonZZelle_: yes, i was just pointing out that we are doing the same thing that nova scheduler filter would do if it were to contact neutron23:10
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kevinbentonZZelle_: this patch is essentially trying to ask if a mech driver could bind a port, right?23:11
kevinbentonZZelle_: so would it not need the same info that goes to bind_port?23:11
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, yes and no, we should be pragmatic by adding small features when needed23:12
ZZelle_kevinbenton, for the moment this method only serves network scheduling23:13
kevinbentonZZelle_: which requires port binding23:13
kevinbentonZZelle_: the dhcp agent will create a port23:14
ZZelle_kevinbenton, imo, no, it's the next step23:14
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kevinbentonZZelle_: it does bind a port!23:14
kevinbentonZZelle_: that's what it does when it creates a port23:14
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kevinbentonZZelle_: and this patch is just a close approximation of what will work23:15
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kevinbentonZZelle_: it would be a simple change to pass in (host, VIF_TYPE) tuples instead of hosts by themselves23:16
kevinbentonZZelle_: but if you don't want to, that's fine. i don't want to argue about this anymore23:17
kevinbentonZZelle_: we'll just add some release note somewhere that there are edge cases where it breaks23:17
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, ok23:18
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openstackgerritSlawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/neutron: ML2: verify if required extension drivers are loaded  https://review.openstack.org/25385323:20
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john-davidgegate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-minimal just failed twice in a row on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266885/23:22
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john-davidgeanyone know of any stability issues with that test?23:22
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ZZelle_carl_baldwin, hi23:24
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, i am not saying we don't care about having multiple L2-agents but i doubt it' a practical usecase to have one the same host to L2-agent being able to access to the same network but not on the same hosts23:28
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ZZelle_kevinbenton, i am not saying we don't care about having multiple L2-agents but i doubt it' a practical usecase to have one the same host 2 (<=shame) L2-agent being able to access to the same network but not on the same hosts23:29
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kevinbentonZZelle: so we should have logic in ml2 then that checks to make sure all physnet mappings are equivalent between all drivers on a host23:36
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kevinbentonZZelle: all agents* on a host23:37
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kevinbentonZZelle: if we are making assumptions about deployments, we should be explicit and log warnings at a minimum when they are violated23:38
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kevinbentonBecause this patch is only supporting now a subset of what ML2 supports23:41
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carl_baldwinZZelle_: hi23:50
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