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| armax | amotoki: ack | 00:04 |
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| amotoki | armax: HenryG: could you review my follow-up patch on relnote? https://review.openstack.org/287514 | 00:08 |
| armax | dougwig, xgerman ping | 00:08 |
| -amotoki- will be offline for a while. will be back in an hour. | 00:08 | |
| xgerman | hi | 00:09 |
| xgerman | dougwig is in a plane without wifi | 00:09 |
| xgerman | but will make everything perfect when he lands | 00:09 |
| xgerman | and we decided to blame blogan | 00:09 |
| blogan | xgerman, armax: i'm working on alternative method | 00:09 |
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| armax | blogan, xgerman there is really no time | 00:10 |
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| armax | and I am not comfortable to have M3 to contain that change as is | 00:10 |
| armax | time has run out | 00:10 |
| armax | as harsh as it sounds, we should have never nudged the change in the gate in the first place | 00:10 |
| xgerman | I don’t think makes a difference if I disagree | 00:11 |
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| armax | xgerman: what do you disagree on, precisely? | 00:12 |
| xgerman | not having that change | 00:12 |
| blogan | well i'll take the blame on it, but i'll continue working on the alternative, if it can't go in for M then so be it, at least it'll be ready for N quickly | 00:12 |
| xgerman | Horizon support is important enough that we should strive to enable it | 00:12 |
| armax | the change is half baked, has no release notes, no tests, no documentation | 00:12 |
| armax | I don’t want to put the cart ahead of the horse | 00:13 |
| armax | Horizon is the last thing we should worry about | 00:13 |
| xgerman | well, I should take you to my meetings where it’s the first thing | 00:13 |
| armax | meh | 00:14 |
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| armax | I would agree if we had something solid we built on | 00:15 |
| xgerman | blogan what’s your ETA? I am not too worried about rebase notes and docs… we can write that in no time | 00:17 |
| xgerman | functionality is there, too, just the end point needs to be changed | 00:17 |
| johnsom | armax I have to say, not cool given you +A'd it earlier, when we had time to fix. | 00:17 |
| blogan | you're the 20th person to ask me for an ETA on something i've just started working on | 00:17 |
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| armax | johnsom: do you know how many patches I have been looking in the last 24 hours? | 00:18 |
| armax | execuse me if I made a mistake! | 00:18 |
| blogan | i made the mistake, i gave the initial +2, blame me guys | 00:18 |
| armax | +A are not notarized, you know? | 00:18 |
| johnsom | I can imagine. I have had a share too. This just messes up the horizon panels too. | 00:18 |
| xgerman | let’s not drag ajmiller into that | 00:18 |
| armax | johnsom: I don’t disagree | 00:19 |
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| blogan | i also had this same concern about it but didn't push against it hard enough, so really it falls on me | 00:19 |
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| xgerman | ok, let’s see how we can fix it | 00:19 |
| armax | I appreciate this means revisiting a few pieces, lbaas, horizon and octavia | 00:19 |
| armax | but lbaas is the tip of the iceberg | 00:19 |
| xgerman | octavia is fine… that can carry the cascade delete | 00:19 |
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| armax | once it’s exposed, I’d worry for the fallout | 00:20 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I think it is just lbaas and changing the horizon code using this. | 00:21 |
| xgerman | yep, and both are not huge changes | 00:21 |
| armax | blogan: no need to blame anyone, really | 00:21 |
| armax | I am just erring on the side of caution at this point | 00:22 |
| blogan | armax: well if someone is looking for someone to blame, all signs point to me | 00:22 |
| armax | blogan: that’s not me, as a matter of fact I blame myself! | 00:22 |
| armax | blogan: :) | 00:22 |
| xgerman | nah, we will always blame armax :-) | 00:22 |
| armax | blogan: I was the one nudging this in the gate when I shouldn’t have | 00:22 |
| johnsom | Comes with the title. | 00:22 |
| johnsom | Ok, so there is nothing the lbaas army can do at this point, is that what I am reading? | 00:23 |
| xgerman | so I think we can hammer that out in a few days maybe even one... | 00:23 |
| armax | blogan: the reason why I went with the revert is to give you guys enough time to come up with the right action | 00:23 |
| blogan | armax: well i can't honestly expect you to know every detail about every subproject, so yours is understandable, mine not so much | 00:23 |
| armax | because M3 should be already cut at this point, the gate queue is already pretty deep | 00:24 |
| armax | blogan: stop, no need | 00:24 |
| blogan | armax: i understand the need for the revert, it is a problem, i just didn't realize how big a problem until my neanderthal mind had it beaten into it | 00:24 |
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| xgerman | it’s bigger than adding a cascade-delete endpoint? | 00:24 |
| armax | blogan: it happens…the thing that matters is that we caught this early enough | 00:24 |
| xgerman | and docs + reno | 00:25 |
| armax | blogan: we’re all on the same page that we need to come together to fix it | 00:25 |
| armax | now it’s a question of agreeing on the timeline | 00:25 |
| blogan | xgerman: the problem is the api behaving differently for deletes between releases | 00:25 |
| xgerman | yep, so if we add a new endpoint we are good? | 00:25 |
| armax | the change needs baking, has no exhaustive coverage, no docs and no release notes | 00:25 |
| armax | if you were in my shoes would you blame my revert? | 00:25 |
| blogan | xgerman: good for the code, the docs, cli, horizion, etc still need it | 00:26 |
| xgerman | cli is unlikely | 00:26 |
| blogan | armax: no | 00:26 |
| armax | so let’s go ahead with the revert! | 00:26 |
| xgerman | I usually err on the opposite side of caution | 00:26 |
| johnsom | Ok, so I see at least three people here and ready to help fix it. Do we have an option armax? | 00:26 |
| blogan | it is a backwards incompatible change | 00:26 |
| armax | johnsom: no, the time has run out! I need to release tonight | 00:27 |
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| johnsom | armax Right, got that, is there an option for M? | 00:27 |
| armax | johnsom: I am ok with the feature freeze | 00:27 |
| armax | johnsom: so long as we can have on the pieces of the domino lined up in the next few days | 00:27 |
| xgerman | ok, we should be able to do that | 00:28 |
| armax | I’ll go and revisit the postmortem doc, as soon as I have evidence that things are good | 00:28 |
| johnsom | Cool. We will circle the wagons and get it done | 00:28 |
| xgerman | +1 | 00:28 |
| blogan | xgerman, johnsom: i got the server side code, can yall figure out the rest? | 00:28 |
| xgerman | CLI, docs, etc. | 00:29 |
| xgerman | sure | 00:29 |
| johnsom | Yep | 00:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Li Xipeng proposed openstack/neutron: Add 169.254.169.254 when enable force_metadata https://review.openstack.org/286345 | 00:29 |
| armax | ok, new revert patch coming right up | 00:29 |
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| kevinbenton | HOW TO MAKE THE NEUTRON SEND PACKETS | 00:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Provide a release postmortem https://review.openstack.org/286413 | 00:34 |
| sc68cal_ | mail them to kevinbenton ;) | 00:35 |
| kevinbenton | :) | 00:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-neutronclient: fix: can't get authentication with os-token and os-url https://review.openstack.org/263337 | 00:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | li,chen proposed openstack/neutron: Add RECLONE support for ovs https://review.openstack.org/282233 | 00:48 |
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| johnsom | Does anyone happen to know what HTTP code gets sent when neutron API returns quota exceeded? | 00:55 |
| johnsom | My grep force is week today for some reason | 00:55 |
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| johnsom | Ah, finally found it. 409 | 00:58 |
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| tidwellr | armax: ping | 01:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Add tag mechanism for network resources https://review.openstack.org/273881 | 01:05 |
| kevinbenton | HenryG: yo | 01:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Add filter for resource tag https://review.openstack.org/278197 | 01:05 |
| HenryG | kevinbenton: hi | 01:06 |
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| kevinbenton | HenryG: you interested in reviewing the description patch? | 01:08 |
| kevinbenton | HenryG: armax has been looking but we need another core. it should be pretty close | 01:09 |
| kevinbenton | HenryG: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269887/ | 01:09 |
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| HenryG | kevinbenton: that may take me a while | 01:10 |
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| kevinbenton | HenryG: ack, it's not as bad as it looks | 01:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add a description field to all standard resources https://review.openstack.org/269887 | 01:17 |
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| reedip | kevinbenton: add in the Update Sections as well :) ^^^ | 01:39 |
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| Shiv_ | Hello everyone, am new to openstack and am trying to get magnum up and running. I have a little issue with neutron I am wondering if anyone can answer a quick question. | 03:04 |
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| kevinbenton | amotoki: ping | 04:13 |
| amotoki | kevinbenton: pong | 04:13 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: i would like to get that description patch in if possible, do you have time to review it? ^^ | 04:13 |
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| kevinbenton | amotoki: thx | 04:17 |
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| armax | amotoki: ^ | 04:52 |
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| amotoki | armax: ack. let me merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287514/ (relnote update) | 04:53 |
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| openstack | bug 1450414 in python-neutronclient "can't get authentication with os-token and os-url " [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1450414 - Assigned to Jas (singhj) | 04:55 |
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| amotoki | armax: neutronclient release patch has been pushed https://review.openstack.org/286585 | 04:57 |
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| kevinbenton | amotoki: respinning now | 06:16 |
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| amotoki | kevinbenton: ack | 06:16 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: is there anything i can write up in a devref to help with the standard attribute stuff? | 06:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add a description field to all standard resources https://review.openstack.org/269887 | 06:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Correct Pecan extensions test https://review.openstack.org/287610 | 06:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Fix pecan collection->plugin map for extensions https://review.openstack.org/287611 | 06:17 |
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| amotoki | kevinbenton: standard attribute stuff leverages various useful sqlalchemy features, so I always read sqlalchemy document. this is the main reason :) | 06:18 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: ah :) | 06:19 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: if you notice I had to push some fixes to the pecan stuff as well ahead of that patch | 06:19 |
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| kevinbenton | amotoki: we had some bad assumptions about extensions in the tests | 06:19 |
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| kevinbenton | amotoki: that were interferring with this patch and would block the timestamp patch to put timestamps on routers as well | 06:20 |
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| amotoki | kevinbenton: are they requirements of timestamp and description stuffs? | 06:22 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: yes | 06:22 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: both are extensions in one plugin that end up extending other resources of another plugin | 06:22 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: via the dict extend methods | 06:23 |
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| amotoki | ah... I would like to look at them soon but I need to go to a meeting. try to review them. response may be a bit slow. | 06:24 |
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| kevinbenton | amotoki: no prob | 06:34 |
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| ygl | Hi All | 06:41 |
| ygl | what are the prerequisites to create a tenant vlan network ? | 06:42 |
| anilvenkata | kevinbenton: Hi Kevin | 06:42 |
| kevinbenton | anilvenkata: hey | 06:43 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: neutron has to be configured for vlans | 06:43 |
| anilvenkata | kevinbenton: can you please add https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282874 this to your review list(l2pop for HA) | 06:43 |
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| anilvenkata | kevinbenton: this is needed for Ha failover | 06:44 |
| ygl | kevinbenton: when i configure neutron for vlans, then by default the tenant networks will be vlan right ? | 06:44 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: yes, as long as 'tenant_network_types' is set to vlan in the ml2 config. that's what decides which type to use when not specified | 06:45 |
| kevinbenton | anilvenkata: yes | 06:45 |
| anilvenkata | kevinbenton: thanks Kevin | 06:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron: Add timestamp changed-since for core resources https://review.openstack.org/250122 | 06:46 |
| ygl | kevinbenton: is it necessary that all tenant networks should have a mapping to existing physical networks in the datacentre ? | 06:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add parser options for description on resources https://review.openstack.org/287548 | 06:47 |
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| kevinbenton | ygl: not necessarily. the tenants could connect their network to an external network via a neutron router | 06:48 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: and get access to the real networks that way | 06:48 |
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| ygl | kevinbenton: so to create a tenant vlan, do I need a provider network ? | 06:50 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: a provider network is just a pre-created network by the admin that maps to a real network | 06:51 |
| ygl | kevinbenton: so u mean provider networks are not needed to create a tenant vlan ? | 06:51 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: nope, if you want a workflow where tenants are creating their own networks, then you don't need to create a provider network | 06:52 |
| ygl | kevinbenton: ok thank you | 06:52 |
| ygl | kevinbenton: sorry to bother u but one more question | 06:53 |
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| ygl | kevinbenton: is a provider network basically a virtual network ? | 06:53 |
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| kevinbenton | ygl: a provider network is an admin-created network where the admin chooses a specific VLAN and CIDR for the network/subnet so it maps directly to an existing network underneath | 06:55 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: so it's the same as a tenant network | 06:55 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: but it's configured to match a real network that has devices the admin wants to communicate on that network (e.g. routers) | 06:56 |
| ygl | kevinbenton: so provider network can be considered as a virtual network ina sense | 06:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron: Add timestamp changed-since for core resources https://review.openstack.org/250122 | 06:57 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: yeah | 06:57 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: from the way the neutron agents wire up the networks, they look exactly the same | 06:57 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: the only difference is that the admin has carefully chosen settings that match the way their real network is configured | 06:58 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: so traffic can flow between the two | 06:58 |
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| ygl | kevinbenton: when i create a network in openstack, it takes two steps. in the first step i create a network by name and then in second step a subnet. can u tell me what exactly is created in the first step | 06:59 |
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| ygl | kevinbenton: becos by the term network we generally mean the subnet address which describes it . what is happening in the first step ? | 07:00 |
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| kevinbenton | ygl: the network creation is where the VLAN is allocated for the network | 07:00 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: (or whatever encapsulation type you are using) | 07:01 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: in neutron the network is the stuff needed for wiring things up | 07:01 |
| ygl | kevinbenton: u mean in the first step where we simply specify a name ? | 07:01 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: the subnet is the IP address management stuff to determine what addresses to give to VMs | 07:01 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: yeah | 07:01 |
| ygl | kevinbenton: what do u mean by encapsulation type ? | 07:02 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: if you do a 'neutron net-show name' as an admin, you can see all of the segmentation details for the network | 07:02 |
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| kevinbenton | ygl: VLAN is one encapsulation type, VXLAN and GRE are others | 07:02 |
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| ygl | kevinbenton: so if we do not want a vlan, what will happen in the first step ? | 07:03 |
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| kevinbenton | ygl: you need to change the tenant network type if you don't want a VLAN | 07:03 |
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| ygl | kevinbenton: oh ok | 07:03 |
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| kevinbenton | ygl: the FLAT type is for no encapsulation at all | 07:04 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: and for that each tenant network will map directly to a bridge on the compute node | 07:04 |
| ygl | kevinbenton: u mean the software bridge ? | 07:04 |
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| kevinbenton | ygl: yes | 07:05 |
| ygl | kevinbenton: so a bridge is same as a switch ? | 07:05 |
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| kevinbenton | ygl: yeah, it's the software equivalent | 07:06 |
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| reedip | kevinbenton: ping | 07:08 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: i gtg, but take a read through that networking guide from the start. it has nice detailed diagrams | 07:08 |
| kevinbenton | ygl: http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/networking-guide/ | 07:08 |
| kevinbenton | reedip: yo, about to head out | 07:08 |
| kevinbenton | reedip: what's up? | 07:08 |
| reedip | kevinbenton: no issues, my timing is bad | 07:08 |
| reedip | kevinbenton: wanted some reviews, but can be done tomorrow | 07:09 |
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| kevinbenton | reedip: ack | 07:11 |
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| reedip | kevinbenton: have a gr8 day | 07:11 |
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| ygl | HI All | 07:28 |
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| ygl | can a non admin tenant launch a VM on a provider network ? | 07:29 |
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| nmagnezi | ygl, hi | 07:36 |
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| nmagnezi | ygl, in general i know that non-admin users cannot choose segmentation id for the neutron network they create. | 07:37 |
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| nmagnezi | ygl, not sure what would happen with an admin user of a non-admin tenant. I this it should not work. did you try it? | 07:37 |
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| ygl | nmagnezi: my bigger question is , what are the scenarios in which we use provider networks other than giving internet access to VMs ? | 07:45 |
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| ygl | what are the scenarios in which we use provider networks other than giving internet access to VMs ? | 07:48 |
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| scheuran | ygl, you could use provider networks if instances in your openstack cloud are heavliy interacting with other non openstack servers in your datacenter. In this case you configure a provider network that matches your datachenter network | 07:48 |
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| nmagnezi | scheuran +1 | 07:48 |
| scheuran | and then your instances are part of your datacenter network - just as an example | 07:48 |
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| scheuran | But I see your point - in a cloud that is offered to customers you probably would not do this :) | 07:49 |
| scheuran | I think this is more for internal usage | 07:49 |
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| scheuran | ygl, and to your fist question - yes a non-admin tenant can launch instances on a provider network! | 07:50 |
| scheuran | when the admin USER is creating the provider network - he can specify the tenant it should be created for | 07:51 |
| scheuran | this could be the admin tenant but also some other tenant | 07:51 |
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| ygl | scheuran: so u mean to say that if a tenant VM wants to communicate to another tenant VM, they need a provider network ? | 07:52 |
| scheuran | ygl, no - I'm just saying the any user with the admin role can create provider networks for every tenant that is out there | 07:53 |
| scheuran | ygl, is your use case cross tenant traffic? | 07:54 |
| amotoki | scheuran: role is assigned to a pair of (user, tenant (=project)) | 07:54 |
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| amotoki | scheuran: so there is no admin user and no admin tenant. | 07:54 |
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| scheuran | ah ok - I must admit I only have devstack experience ;) And there it worked.. | 07:54 |
| amotoki | scheuran: precisely, if a user A for tenant X has admin role | 07:55 |
| scheuran | I mean creating a provider network for the demo tenant.. | 07:55 |
| scheuran | amotoki, probably that's the case there... | 07:55 |
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| amotoki | in devstack setup, a demo user of demo tenant has no admin role | 07:55 |
| ygl | scheuran: i want to know the use cases when it is necessary for tenant networks to use provider networks and when it is not necessary | 07:55 |
| amotoki | and admin user of demo tenant has admin role. | 07:55 |
| scheuran | amotoki, yep, that is what i was referring to... | 07:56 |
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| amotoki | ygl: I think you can consider "provider network" as a way to specify segmentation ID or network type. | 07:58 |
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| scheuran | ygl, I agree with amotoki. To add on this: you would typically do this when you need to a special segmentation ID and network type to map your existing datacenter network | 08:05 |
| scheuran | ygl, this is (I think always) the case for the external network | 08:05 |
| scheuran | ygl, there you typically specify a flat network - not sure if other types are supported | 08:05 |
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| scheuran | ygl, and the other use case I see is if you instances should participate in some special network, e.g. your datacenter network | 08:06 |
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| scheuran | ygl, probably there are other use cases I'm not aware of - In a cloud that is offered to customers you typically would use tenant-networks and not provider networks! | 08:07 |
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| ygl | scheuran: when we want a tenant VM to communicate through a vlan we need a provider network in this case right ? | 08:07 |
| scheuran | ygl, you can also use vlan for tenant networks. But if you want a tenant VM to communicate through a specific (!) vlan, than you probably want a provider network | 08:08 |
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| scheuran | ygl, tenant networks allow you to define a range of vlans to be used - e.g. from vlan 5 to vlan 10 | 08:09 |
| scheuran | ygl, the first network that you create gets 5, the next 6 and so on | 08:09 |
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| scheuran | ygl, but if you say - I require vlan 7 and no other vlan! - then you probably want a provider network | 08:10 |
| scheuran | ygl, (I mean you could also configure your tenant networks with a range of 7-7 which would only allow one vlan) | 08:10 |
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| scheuran | * one network to be created | 08:10 |
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| ygl | scheuran:so there is no difference between the tenant and provider networks except in implementation | 08:11 |
| scheuran | the instance does not see any difference! | 08:11 |
| ygl | scheuran: hmm ok | 08:11 |
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| scheuran | also the user who is just using that network does not know if it is a provider network or not | 08:11 |
| scheuran | only the person who creates this network must decide if one or the other (if he has the permissions to) | 08:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/285041 | 08:12 |
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| ygl | scheuran:thanks for your time | 08:14 |
| scheuran | ygl, welcome! | 08:14 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: how is it going with dscp? | 08:33 |
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| ygl | scheuran: if i want to implement cross tenant traffic , do i need a provider network ? | 08:38 |
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| scheuran | ygl, puh I must admit I haven't tried this so far, let me think... | 08:42 |
| scheuran | ygl, seems like you can create a network as shared network | 08:43 |
| scheuran | ygl, http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2.html | 08:44 |
| ygl | scheuran: ok. | 08:44 |
| ygl | scheuran: tell me one thing | 08:44 |
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| scheuran | doing so ALL tenants can access this network | 08:44 |
| ygl | scheuran: why would I use a tenant vlan when I can isolate tenant traffic using namespaces in openstack ? | 08:45 |
| scheuran | but I can't tell you if this option is restricted to provider networks or if it could be used for tenant networks as well - I think you need to try it out | 08:45 |
| ygl | why would I use a tenant vlan when I can isolate tenant traffic using namespaces in openstack ? | 08:45 |
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| scheuran | ygl, what do you mean by "using namespaces"? | 08:46 |
| ygl | scheuran: i mean network namespaces | 08:47 |
| scheuran | ygl, I think you're mixing up things here - let my try to elaborate in more detail, maybe then we can precise the question... | 08:47 |
| scheuran | ygl, currently there are 3 default ways how you can gain isolation of networks in Openstack | 08:48 |
| scheuran | ygl, vlan, vxlan and gre | 08:48 |
| ygl | scheuran: u mean isoaltion between different tenants ? | 08:48 |
| scheuran | ygl, those technologies make sure, that someone attached to vxlan1 cannot talk to someone on vxlan2 | 08:48 |
| scheuran | ygl, no, really between networks | 08:49 |
| scheuran | ygl, tenant is not involved | 08:49 |
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| scheuran | even if you create 2 networks under the same tenant - they are isolated from each other | 08:49 |
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| scheuran | a server attached to network1 of tenant A cannot talk to a server attached to network2 of tenant A | 08:49 |
| ygl | scheuran: so these are used segregate a single network right ? | 08:49 |
| scheuran | ygl, right | 08:50 |
| scheuran | and there's no real difference if the network is in the same tenant or in another tenant | 08:50 |
| ygl | scheuran: so vlans are used to isolate traffic between networks of the same tenant | 08:50 |
| scheuran | ygl tenat doesn't matter here | 08:51 |
| scheuran | *tenant | 08:51 |
| ygl | scheuran: so namespaces come into picture only between different tenants right ? | 08:51 |
| ygl | scheuran: i mean network namespaces | 08:51 |
| scheuran | ygl, I think you're talking about linux network namespaces? | 08:52 |
| ygl | scheuran: yes exactly | 08:52 |
| scheuran | ok | 08:52 |
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| scheuran | namespaces are required for example by the l3 service and the dhcp service | 08:53 |
| ygl | scheuran: if i have a tenant A with a single network divided into two vlans 1 and 2. and also a tenant B which has its own network divided into vlans 1 and 2 | 08:53 |
| scheuran | ygl, teant B would have vlan 3 and 4 | 08:53 |
| scheuran | ygl, you cannot double use vlans | 08:54 |
| ygl | scheuran: so cant I have the same vlan numbers eventough they are different tenants ? | 08:54 |
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| scheuran | ygl, right - I mean it depends | 08:54 |
| ygl | scheuran: i am confused here | 08:54 |
| scheuran | ygl, ok, so Openstack uses vlan as technology for separating networks | 08:55 |
| scheuran | if two networks use the same vlan - they are in the same network | 08:55 |
| ygl | scheuran: when i can have same subnets under different tenants, why can t I have same vlans also ? | 08:55 |
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| scheuran | it's about network layering here | 08:56 |
| scheuran | vlans are a layer 2 (ethernet) technology | 08:56 |
| ygl | scheuran: i am skeptical here at this point of vlans | 08:56 |
| ygl | when i can have same subnets under different tenants, why can t I have same vlans also ? | 08:57 |
| scheuran | what vlans do is, that they devide your single layer 2 network into multiple layer2 networks | 08:57 |
| ygl | scheuran: i kow that | 08:57 |
| scheuran | ygl, maybe the simple answer: The Openstack user should not be aware of vlans at all! | 08:57 |
| scheuran | he should not care about if vlan, vxlan or somehting else is used for realizing the network | 08:58 |
| scheuran | he just doesn't care | 08:58 |
| ygl | but as a tenant , why if i use a vlan ID for my own networks , how does it relate to another tenant using the same vlan ID for his own networks ? | 08:58 |
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| scheuran | ygl, again, as openstack user you do not know if you use vlan or not (you only know that as admin) | 09:01 |
| scheuran | ygl, and you do not care | 09:01 |
| scheuran | ygl, this is implemenation detail | 09:01 |
| scheuran | ygl, the cloud admin configured that once when he installed the cloud | 09:01 |
| ygl | yes. i want to know if this is possible with vlans ? | 09:01 |
| scheuran | ygl, so what Neutron offers you, is a layer 2 network | 09:02 |
| scheuran | for your instances | 09:02 |
| scheuran | ygl, one way to achive this is vlan | 09:02 |
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| scheuran | but if you do so, the openstack user does not know if he is using vlan | 09:02 |
| scheuran | it's totally transperent to him | 09:03 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: ok I left some comments for dscp patch. I guess we should respin. | 09:03 |
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| scheuran | if the admin configured vlan, openstack takes care, that each openstack network gets its own unique vlan id | 09:03 |
| scheuran | and so its own layer2 network | 09:03 |
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| scheuran | ygl, the instance are not aware of any vlan (technically, the vswitch is doing vlan tagging) | 09:04 |
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| ygl | scheuran: i think u did not get my question | 09:05 |
| scheuran | ygl, probably :) | 09:05 |
| garyk | ajo: ihrachys: you guys around. i have hit some issues with the QoS that maybe you can help out with | 09:05 |
| ygl | lets ask the wider audience here :) | 09:06 |
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| ygl | Hi All | 09:06 |
| ygl | can anyone help me here with my query please | 09:06 |
| ygl | can I have two different tenants using the same vlan ID in their networks ? | 09:07 |
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| ygl | can I have two different tenants using the same vlan ID in their networks ? | 09:11 |
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| slaweq_ | ihrachys, ajo: hello | 09:14 |
| slaweq_ | can You maybe take a look on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287467/1 | 09:14 |
| ajo | garyk, sure, shot | 09:14 |
| ajo | ihrachys, thanks | 09:14 |
| ihrachys | garyk: shoot | 09:14 |
| ajo | yes, I'm going through them | 09:14 |
| slaweq_ | it's manuals change what ihrachys was asking for :) | 09:15 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq_: great | 09:15 |
| scheuran | ygl, probably it's a good idea to send that question out via mailing list - please add some information/context laying out your use case | 09:15 |
| scheuran | ygl, this way you can reach a wider audience also in other time zones.. | 09:16 |
| ygl | scheuran: sounds nice. but i dont have time | 09:16 |
| ygl | so anyone here ? | 09:16 |
| ygl | brb | 09:17 |
| ajo | oh, nice slaweq_ | 09:17 |
| ihrachys | slaweq_: replied. | 09:17 |
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| slaweq_ | ihrachys: thx | 09:18 |
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| slaweq_ | I didn't know about that | 09:18 |
| slaweq_ | will fix in few minutes | 09:18 |
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| garyk | ajo: any idea why we get http://paste.openstack.org/show/489101/ | 09:25 |
| garyk | ajo: of we change the qos:Qos to qos.QosPlugin then it works | 09:25 |
| garyk | bug? | 09:25 |
| * ajo looks | 09:25 | |
| ajo | garyk, where do you change it? config? | 09:26 |
| ajo | is it a doc issue? | 09:26 |
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| ajo | ;( | 09:26 |
| ajo | :) | 09:26 |
| slaweq_ | ajo: ihrachys: I changed what You commented in this manual | 09:27 |
| ajo | wrong finger position changes smiley | 09:27 |
| ajo | XD | 09:27 |
| garyk | yes, in the config wil | 09:27 |
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| ajo | garyk, it must be QoSPlugin, yes | 09:28 |
| ajo | but I thought we had an stevedore entry for that | 09:28 |
| ajo | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/setup.cfg#L79 | 09:28 |
| ajo | yes | 09:28 |
| ajo | we can just use "qos" | 09:28 |
| ajo | and probably that's what we should have in the docs | 09:28 |
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| garyk | ok | 09:30 |
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| garyk | ajo: so what should appear in the neutron conf file service = ? | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Martin Hickey proposed openstack/neutron: Port allowed address pairs to OVO https://review.openstack.org/268274 | 09:31 |
| ajo | garyk, just "qos" | 09:35 |
| ajo | and the other services you run, of course | 09:35 |
| garyk | ok. thanks | 09:35 |
| ajo | btw, I'd say neutron.services.qos.qos_plugin:QoSPlugin is coorect too? | 09:35 |
| ajo | (looking at your paste, it failed) | 09:35 |
| ajo | I have this: | 09:36 |
| ajo | service_plugins = qos,neutron.services.l3_router.l3_router_plugin.L3RouterPlugin,neutron_lbaas.services.loadbalancer.plugin.LoadBalancerPlugin | 09:36 |
| ajo | but that expands to neutron.services.qos.qos_plugin:QoSPlugin | 09:37 |
| ajo | hmm | 09:38 |
| ajo | garyk, I see, if we want to use the long version we must use neutron.services.qos.qos_plugin.QoSPlugin (':' -> '.') | 09:39 |
| garyk | ajo: ok, thanks. | 09:40 |
| garyk | for some reason devstack created it with : | 09:40 |
| ihrachys | garyk: long python names are not supported | 09:42 |
| ihrachys | garyk: you should not rely on them | 09:42 |
| garyk | ihrachys: ok | 09:43 |
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| bbzhao | kevinbenton: ping, hi kevin, the left patch of timestamp have updated, could you review the 2 patch if you have time? Thanks a lot, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213586/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250122/ | 10:29 |
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| bbzhao | HenryG: ping , hi henry, could you please reivew the left patch of timestamp if you have time? Thank you. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213586/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250122/ | 10:30 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: please check my replies for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287263/2 | 10:59 |
| ihrachys | I know you allow me to +W but I better clarify that with you first. I am fine to respin if needed. | 10:59 |
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| ajo | ihrachys, : go | 11:00 |
| ajo | :D | 11:00 |
| ajo | I wflowed it | 11:00 |
| ihrachys | thanks | 11:00 |
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| jschwarz | kevinbenton, ping | 12:20 |
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| jschwarz | kevinbenton, would like to hear your thoughts on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1552680 | 12:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1552680 in neutron "[RFE] Add support for DLM" [Undecided,New] | 12:36 |
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| ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: that openstack-manuals repo is huge. /me clones it for 5mins+ already | 12:43 |
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| scheuran | ZZelle, just wondering, can we close this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1514548 | 12:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1514548 in neutron "Cleanup linuxbridge_neutron_agent" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Cedric Brandily (cbrandily) | 12:57 |
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| ZZelle | scheuran, iirc, there was a remaining action to do but i don't remember which one ... and it won't change how neutron behaves | 12:58 |
| ZZelle | so yes we can close it | 12:58 |
| scheuran | ZZelle, ok, will do. thanks | 12:58 |
| ZZelle | scheuran, thx | 12:58 |
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| bsv | what is used to link the brq and tap interfaces ? iptables? | 13:10 |
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| ihrachys | bsv: tap is plugged into the hybrid bridge | 13:14 |
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| bsv | yes, but i have DHCP-replies going to bit-heaven, somewhere between the hybrid-bridge and tap-interface. | 13:16 |
| bsv | trying to figure out what is causing this. | 13:16 |
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| bsv | the reply packet is comming back, entering the brq-interface... but are gone on the tap-interface. | 13:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ihrachys: it shouldnt that that long | 13:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | ihrachys: not nearly as long as nova | 13:20 |
| ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: well it's 674M of objects ;) | 13:20 |
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| ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: vs. 244 in nova | 13:21 |
| ihrachys | and 51 in neutron | 13:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | huh. nova is usually the big one for me. | 13:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | guess we have a lot of docs? :) | 13:21 |
| ihrachys | last time it took me that long was when I checked out kernel :) | 13:21 |
| ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: or maybe a lot of changes for the docs ;) | 13:22 |
| ihrachys | it's not svn, you know. every line change makes it worse. | 13:22 |
| bsv | so, where do I got for detailed neutron documentation? I need to know what happens betwwen the brq and tap. | 13:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | bsv: the networking guide at docs.openstack.org | 13:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably one of the scenarios | 13:22 |
| ihrachys | bsv: http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/networking-guide/scenario-classic-ovs.html | 13:23 |
| ihrachys | the docs are so awesome that there is no excuse not to read them | 13:23 |
| bsv | Sam-I-Am: been looking at them for a long time now, not enough details. Think source-code is the next stop. | 13:23 |
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| bsv | ihrachys: yeah, they are great. Missing some important stuff here and there, but in general its really good. | 13:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | your problem is likely something obvious | 13:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | like a misconfiguration | 13:25 |
| ihrachys | bsv: what you describe seems like iptables blocking packets. you can try to check counters on iptables rules to see what's triggered when you try to send lost packets | 13:25 |
| bsv | This deployment was done by using the openstack-ansible project. | 13:25 |
| bsv | ihrachys: okay, will do. | 13:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, not-obvious, but not super obscure either | 13:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | last i checked o-a used all linuxbridge, no ovs | 13:26 |
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| bsv | Have avoided iptables for many years now, I hate to start now ;) | 13:26 |
| bsv | Sam-I-Am: correct | 13:26 |
| bsv | plain linux-bridge with vxlan, vlan | 13:27 |
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| bsv | Sam-I-Am: yeah, its prob. just a checkbox somewhere in horizon ;) | 13:31 |
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| pc_m | ihrachys: ping | 13:54 |
| ihrachys | pc_m: pong | 13:55 |
| pc_m | ihrachys: What is the Guru Mediation report? | 13:55 |
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| * pc_m see VPN review to add support for this | 13:55 | |
| ihrachys | pc_m: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/gmr.html | 13:55 |
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| ihrachys | we have it for neutron services, I want to add them to *aas too to close the gap before claiming the feature implemented | 13:56 |
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| ihrachys | pc_m: note that we want to ask armax if it's fine to merge those before proceeding | 13:56 |
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| pc_m | ihrachys: Are there any examples anywhere of GMR output (just curious) | 13:57 |
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| ihrachys | pc_m: I have a patch triggering those for neutron agents in devstack: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279035/ | 13:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Reraise RetryRequest https://review.openstack.org/287811 | 14:00 |
| * ihrachys looks for example in logs | 14:00 | |
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| ihrachys | pc_m: http://logs.openstack.org/35/279035/4/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron/a320ce6/logs/old/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz#_2016-03-02_22_11_43_763 | 14:03 |
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| ihrachys | pc_m: note that it seems my patch for devstack is not behaving properly, I will need to look into it | 14:03 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: we don't have qos rbac documented yet, do we? | 14:13 |
| pc_m | ihrachys: thanks for the info | 14:13 |
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| vkmc | hey all, enriquetaso is an applicant for the Outreachy program | 14:29 |
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| vkmc | she is working on this bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1485537 | 14:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1485537 in neutron "adopt oslo_config.fixture.Config" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Sofia Enriquez (lsofia-enriquez) | 14:30 |
| enriquetaso | Hello all :) | 14:30 |
| vkmc | I don't know anything about Neutron, so any guidance will be really appreciated | 14:30 |
| vkmc | ihrachys, ^ | 14:30 |
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| electrocucaracha | thanks vkmc | 14:34 |
| vkmc | electrocucaracha, o/ hey there | 14:34 |
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| electrocucaracha | I can take a look, but I'm not sure if I have enough knowledge to provide a feedback | 14:36 |
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| ajo | ihrachys, hmmmm, you're right | 14:37 |
| ajo | I think it's not documented but in the spec, and that's not documentation, | 14:37 |
| ihrachys | ajo: ok I cover for that, you do dscp :) | 14:38 |
| ajo | ihrachys, deal! dscp is done :D | 14:38 |
| ajo | :P | 14:38 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: joke or reality? | 14:38 |
| ajo | ihrachys, seriously, let's team up to cover rbac with hdaniel | 14:38 |
| ihrachys | ajo: you mean I can review? | 14:38 |
| ajo | ihrachys, reality, they have +2 patches on API and networking guide | 14:38 |
| ajo | ihrachys, sure, 1 sec | 14:38 |
| ihrachys | ajo: ok ping me when it's ready | 14:39 |
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| ajo | ihrachys, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251738/ | 14:39 |
| ajo | check the commit message | 14:39 |
| ajo | openstack-manuals: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273638 | 14:39 |
| ajo | API Guide: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275253 | 14:39 |
| ihrachys | ajo: nah nah nah, I ask whether dscp code is ready | 14:39 |
| ajo | ahhh | 14:39 |
| ajo | sorry, I understood dscp docs | 14:39 |
| ajo | ihrachys, sure, I'm on that | 14:39 |
| ajo | then deal | 14:39 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: that's why I want you to look into the code and not rbac docs :) | 14:40 |
| ajo | ihrachys, of course, that makes sense now ;) | 14:40 |
| vkmc | electrocucaracha, that would be awesome :) any input is good | 14:40 |
| ihrachys | ok great | 14:40 |
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| ajo | ihrachys, talking of RBAC | 14:44 |
| ajo | I noticed a side effect of the metaclass in testing | 14:44 |
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| rossella_s | sbelous, ping regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254301 | 14:44 |
| ajo | ihrachys, the non-db tests of objects with RBAC, now require the database to be created | 14:44 |
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| fishbone | Hey, can anyone help, when I add compute nodes to my openstack system the instances lose connection...I believe it's the neutron settings on the added compute node. They are identical to the initial compute node; I am not sure if there are any changes I am supposed to have. I am using the linuxbridge-agent | 14:45 |
| ihrachys | ajo: you mean Iface? | 14:45 |
| ajo | so now, they work, because they execute in order somehow (first db backed tests, then non db backed) | 14:45 |
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| ajo | ihrachys, I noticed that If I try to run the non-db-backed tests for policy object | 14:45 |
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| rossella_s | ajo I was seeing something like that too but didn't investigate further | 14:45 |
| ajo | (run them inidividually) ... caboom | 14:45 |
| ihrachys | ok, we need a bug reported for that | 14:45 |
| ajo | errors of rbacblahblah not found | 14:45 |
| ihrachys | I may look into it | 14:45 |
| ihrachys | actually, lemme report it | 14:46 |
| ajo | ihrachys, ack, I will fill report | 14:46 |
| ihrachys | you do dscp :) | 14:46 |
| ajo | ok, :) | 14:46 |
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| ajo | ihrachys++ | 14:46 |
| russellb | jlibosva: I got the changes for applying security groups to apply to existing connections working for OVN if you're interested. http://openvswitch.org/pipermail/dev/2016-March/067093.html | 14:46 |
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| ajo | :oo russellb++ | 14:48 |
| russellb | jlibosva: the logical flows are shown in the commit message for patch 3, which would give you an idea of what the openflow flows end up looking like | 14:48 |
| russellb | ajo: hi :) | 14:48 |
| jlibosva | russellb: thanks, yesterday I attempted to make related connections pass but still failing | 14:48 |
| jlibosva | russellb: have you tried related connections with this approach? | 14:48 |
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| russellb | jlibosva: it's covered in theory :-p | 14:48 |
| russellb | how are you testing it? | 14:48 |
| jlibosva | russellb: ftp server | 14:48 |
| ihrachys | or irc :) | 14:48 |
| russellb | are you using ct(alg=ftp) ? | 14:49 |
| jlibosva | russellb: nope, that could be it. I was googling today for any ftp alg I need to enable or something | 14:50 |
| russellb | yes, you have to enable the ftp alg | 14:50 |
| russellb | we don't have it enabled in OVN | 14:50 |
| russellb | but look at the man page for ovs-ofctl | 14:50 |
| russellb | the alg= arg is documented for the ct() action | 14:50 |
| russellb | in fact, the ftp alg is the only one documented as supported | 14:50 |
| * jlibosva bangs head against wall | 14:51 | |
| russellb | heh | 14:51 |
| russellb | also, people still use ftp? | 14:51 |
| jlibosva | russellb: thanks a lot! I'll try it right away | 14:51 |
| russellb | :-p | 14:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Martin Hickey proposed openstack/neutron: Integrate the port allowed address pairs VersionedObject in Neutron https://review.openstack.org/287756 | 14:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Martin Hickey proposed openstack/neutron: Port allowed address pairs to OVO https://review.openstack.org/268274 | 14:51 |
| russellb | i'm wondering if it's harmless to just always turn it on ... | 14:51 |
| enriquetaso | sbelous: hi there, I'm working on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1485537 and I saw you proposed a fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254301. I was wondering why it was abandoned. Is there a blocker with it or something? could you provide me some guidance? | 14:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1485537 in neutron "adopt oslo_config.fixture.Config" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Sofia Enriquez (lsofia-enriquez) | 14:51 |
| jlibosva | russellb: I just used it to get some related connections, but I didn't manage to achieve related connections ... | 14:51 |
| russellb | got it. | 14:52 |
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| russellb | "related" is also supposed to apply to ICMP destination unreachable packets | 14:52 |
| russellb | that might be an easier way to do it | 14:52 |
| russellb | if you still can't get ftp to behave anyway | 14:53 |
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| russellb | jlibosva: i've just been testing with an ssh connection ... | 14:54 |
| russellb | you're more thorough than me, nice work :) | 14:54 |
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| jlibosva | russellb: that's because I thought there is a bug in the firewall, which happens when having tenant traffic on the same host, which is related | 14:55 |
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| jlibosva | russellb: was due to having zones per port, I had to switch back to zone per tenant, as ingress and egress connections will have different zones in this case | 14:56 |
| russellb | ah, yep | 14:56 |
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| amuller | akamyshnikova: according to http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate, fullstack failure rate is around 60% now | 14:56 |
| amuller | akamyshnikova: John's patch addresses the main failure of the HA routers test | 14:56 |
| russellb | you'd have to switch zones in the middle of processing when doing it per-port | 14:56 |
| jlibosva | and commit, which later causes that one entry is established while the other is UNsomething | 14:57 |
| russellb | per network seems fine | 14:58 |
| russellb | single zone will have more entries, but i'm not sure how much that could affect performance | 14:58 |
| jlibosva | we'll see :) We could actually later compare that as now it's per-port | 14:59 |
| russellb | i thought you changed it back? | 14:59 |
| jlibosva | UNREPLIED was that state | 14:59 |
| jlibosva | I did but haven't sent it for review yet | 14:59 |
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| jlibosva | I changed it today morning | 15:00 |
| russellb | ok | 15:00 |
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| jlibosva | russellb: the alg must be given for obtaining ct info and for commits? | 15:00 |
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| russellb | jlibosva: good question. | 15:01 |
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| russellb | jlibosva: i'm totally guessing, but i would think it only makes sense with commit ... | 15:01 |
| russellb | let me check | 15:01 |
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| russellb | jlibosva: yes, all of the tests that use alg=ftp in ovs are doing it with commit | 15:02 |
| russellb | tests/system-traffic.at if you're curious | 15:02 |
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| jlibosva | russellb: thanks | 15:03 |
| * russellb should document that | 15:03 | |
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| jlibosva | russellb: thanks, alg=ftp did the work :) I can finally see hitting +rel rules | 15:08 |
| russellb | nice!! | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: now what you do for other protocols? | 15:09 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: close my eyes and say prayers :) | 15:10 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: I just needed it to test the related rules | 15:10 |
| russellb | you do: | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | enriquetaso: you may be interested in checking https://www.rdoproject.org/events/rdo-day-fosdem-2016/#rdo-configuration-files-dos-donts-gotchas-and-rfc---ihar-hrachyshka starting at ~23:30 for some background about how the fixture may help us. | 15:10 |
| russellb | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | :-) | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron: Autogenerate macvtap agent config file https://review.openstack.org/287873 | 15:12 |
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| amuller | otherwiseguy: I'm running 'vulture' on neutron (tool to find dead code) - https://pypi.python.org/pypi/vulture | 15:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Change the exception type from ValueError to IpamValueInvalid https://review.openstack.org/264086 | 15:14 |
| amuller | otherwiseguy: when excluding tests, many of the methods in neutron/agent/common/ovs_lib.BaseOVS seem unused | 15:15 |
| rossella_s | amuller, if they are it's time to clean them up :) | 15:16 |
| amuller | rossella_s: I'll open a bug | 15:16 |
| rossella_s | amuller, tbh that file needs some love | 15:16 |
| rossella_s | amuller, great! thanks | 15:17 |
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| russellb | jlibosva: i updated the docs to clarify that commit is required with alg. http://openvswitch.org/pipermail/dev/2016-March/067151.html | 15:19 |
| sbelous | enriquetaso: hi! I had some simple idea how to fix it, but I don't actually sure that my idea was correct… at the first, i didn't find a way how to check that my patch actually fix something. I was not able to reproduce this bug before I made patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1484553 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1484553 in neutron "running local tests fails in oslo_policy package" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Mathieu Rohon (mathieu-rohon) | 15:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: l2pop fdb flows for HA router ports https://review.openstack.org/255237 | 15:21 |
| sbelous | enriquetaso: second, some times ago I faced with this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505715 temporary solution was here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234275/ and that's way i thought, that i can do something like this on low level (in test base class) and it will work. but I was wrong. I don't know how to properly use fixture here and how to fix this bug, sorry :( | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505715 in neutron "Functional tests falls, if global cfg.CONF tried to register the same option twice" [Low,Fix released] - Assigned to Sergey Belous (sbelous) | 15:21 |
| HenryG | garyk: ping | 15:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Hirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron: Add a description field to all standard resources https://review.openstack.org/269887 | 15:23 |
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| ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: moo | 15:23 |
| rossella_s | sbelous, I guess ihrachys has answers to your doubts | 15:23 |
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| otherwiseguy | amuller: That doesn't surprise me. | 15:24 |
| ihrachys | sbelous: rossella_s: those bugs are quite weird. the end story after we adopt the fixture and use set_config_files() instead of all mocks we have in base class would be that tests still pass with /etc/neutron/neutron.conf being installed and without access to it | 15:24 |
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| amuller | otherwiseguy: rossella_s: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1552749 | 15:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1552749 in neutron "Many BaseOVS functions unused" [Low,New] | 15:24 |
| ihrachys | amuller: I guess we want deprecation | 15:25 |
| ihrachys | amuller: I also heard we may want to move into a lib | 15:25 |
| otherwiseguy | Though some are used in other projects or at least have been, I know I've seen set_controller() used before. | 15:25 |
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| garyk | HenryG: whats up | 15:25 |
| amuller | ihrachys: otherwiseguy: rossella_s: We can use codesearch.openstack.org and just remove if they're unused in all openstack projects | 15:25 |
| ihrachys | right. it's common to consider the module public | 15:25 |
| amuller | no need to deprecate in that case | 15:25 |
| otherwiseguy | I'm generally ok with something that is essentially a library having unused functions. | 15:26 |
| rossella_s | amuller, didn't know about it | 15:26 |
| amuller | Sean told me about it | 15:26 |
| amuller | it's awesome | 15:26 |
| amuller | it doesn't work half the time | 15:26 |
| HenryG | garyk: about https://review.openstack.org/284826 | 15:26 |
| ihrachys | amuller: now you think all the code is stored in openstack git. bad assumption. | 15:26 |
| amuller | but when it does it's awesome :) | 15:26 |
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| rossella_s | amuller, lol | 15:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: DSCP QoS rule implementation https://review.openstack.org/251738 | 15:26 |
| ajo | jschwarz, ^ | 15:26 |
| HenryG | garyk: Do you have anyone working on the vendor side? | 15:26 |
| ajo | trying in a sec what you just told me | 15:26 |
| ihrachys | amuller: I usually stay on the paranoia side and throw a pile of debtcollector decorators | 15:27 |
| HenryG | garyk: We don't want to remove it before you have a solution | 15:27 |
| jschwarz | ajo, okies.. lets continue in #openstack-neutron-qos | 15:28 |
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| rossella_s | ihrachys, sbelous, enriquetaso so I guess the idea is to introduce the fixture, remove the mocks and tests that everything works even with no access to /etc/neutron/neutron.conf | 15:28 |
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| ihrachys | rossella_s: right. so we don't need all those hacks | 15:29 |
| garyk | HenryG: we have yet to port this code to the vmware_nsx repo. can i do it beginning of next week and then ping you. sorry but it slipped my mind | 15:29 |
| ihrachys | rossella_s: they may be broken any time in the future if oslo folks decide to rename whatever we mock out | 15:29 |
| HenryG | garyk: No problem, that's why I am reminding you :) | 15:30 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: #-qos WAT? | 15:30 |
| garyk | ok. thanks | 15:30 |
| HenryG | garyk: Read the comments and the bugs mentioned, this might be tricky | 15:30 |
| garyk | ok, will do | 15:30 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, good point, thanks for the explanation | 15:31 |
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| electrocucaracha | ihrachys, rossella_s, so the proposal of Sergey was correct? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254301/ | 15:31 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, don't blame me, i'm the messenger | 15:32 |
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| amuller | jlibosva: http://paste.openstack.org/show/489166/ | 15:32 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: I think that config_parse would not be needed now at all, at least not passing neutron.conf there. | 15:33 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: as long as we use set_default_files. | 15:34 |
| ihrachys | sorry, set_config_files: | 15:34 |
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| ihrachys | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.config/fixture.html#oslo_config.fixture.Config.set_config_files | 15:34 |
| ihrachys | also mock on line 307 should be removed | 15:35 |
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| electrocucaracha | ihrachys, gotcha... thanks. More likely, enriquetaso took those notes | 15:43 |
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| sayalilunkad | rossella_s: since we decided to split the patches for ovo, I did that but then there is a problem that the classes are defined in two places so jenkins will always fail | 15:48 |
| jschwarz | so we can't merge the fullstack DSCP tests until the python-neutronclient code for DSCP marking also merge | 15:49 |
| ihrachys | amuller: do we have anywhere documented that fullstack tests rely on the client? | 15:50 |
| jschwarz | ie. if some new feature is being developed (like DSCP marking), fullstack tests depend on python-neutronclient to produce the relevant code to access the REST | 15:50 |
| ihrachys | not obvious for some | 15:50 |
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| jschwarz | and until then, the fullstack tests won't work | 15:50 |
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| vikram_ | ihrachys: ping | 15:51 |
| ihrachys | vikram_: shoot | 15:51 |
| vikram_ | ihrachys: will be available for SFC IRC today | 15:51 |
| ihrachys | vikram_: when is that? | 15:51 |
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| vikram_ | ihrachys: SFC IRC meeting .. We can discuss about L2 extension for networking-sfc | 15:52 |
| vikram_ | ihrachys: As I have understood from Cathy, Roefi is already looking into this | 15:52 |
| vikram_ | ihrachys: :) | 15:53 |
| ihrachys | vikram_: ok great. if you need any help with using the api, or you see limitations, tell me | 15:53 |
| vikram_ | ihrachys: done! | 15:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Add BGP Callback and agent RPC notifcation implementations https://review.openstack.org/216994 | 15:56 |
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| sayalilunkad | ihrachys: ^ | 15:59 |
| ihrachys | sayalilunkad: ? | 15:59 |
| sayalilunkad | ihrachys: since we decided to split the patches for ovo, I did that but then there is a problem that the classes are defined in two places so jenkins will always fail | 15:59 |
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| amuller | ihrachys: that detail might not be documented | 16:04 |
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| amuller | jschwarz: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:05 |
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| enriquetaso | electrocucaracha: thanks. I'm taking notes | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | sayalilunkad: not sure which two places for classes you mean. can you give links? | 16:09 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: I +2'd though I have concern about fullstack test being disabled. | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | ajo: as long as you plan to handle it later in Mitaka, I am fine though | 16:10 |
| sayalilunkad | ihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284738/5/neutron/db/securitygroups/models.py | 16:10 |
| sayalilunkad | and here are the existing classes https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/securitygroups_db.py#L42 | 16:11 |
| sayalilunkad | which we don't remove after we split the patch because we decided not to change the codebase | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sreekumar S proposed openstack/neutron: loadimpact perf improvement with batch vsctl/native commands https://review.openstack.org/286580 | 16:13 |
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| rossella_s | sayalilunkad, I guess it's fine to move them...no need to duplicate them | 16:18 |
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| sayalilunkad | rossella_s: but then that means all the changes here will need to be included https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275664/11/neutron/db/securitygroups_db.py | 16:19 |
| rossella_s | sayalilunkad, not all of them | 16:20 |
| rossella_s | sayalilunkad, in some points in that file you use the objects...that might be dangerous | 16:20 |
| rossella_s | sayalilunkad, but refactoring the code and moving a class to another file should be ok | 16:21 |
| jschwarz | amuller, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284400/9/neutron/scheduler/l3_agent_scheduler.py | 16:21 |
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| rossella_s | sayalilunkad, btw for sure we won't merge anything regarding ovo before the m3 cut, we will see after that | 16:21 |
| sayalilunkad | rossella_s: ok, then I will probably keep this on hold till then | 16:23 |
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| rossella_s | sayalilunkad, as you wish...but I mean, you can work on it so we can have it in a good shape, I don't think you will have to face conflicts but it's up to you | 16:25 |
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| ihrachys | rossella_s: it's actually cut already | 16:26 |
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| ihrachys | rossella_s: see all those git tags in the repos | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | rossella_s: but it seems it does not mean we'll be able to merge anything anyway | 16:26 |
| enriquetaso | Hello ZZelle! Do you mind if I work on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1511578 ? I'm trying to make my first collaboration :) | 16:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1511578 in neutron " Remove deprecated external_network_bridge option" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Cedric Brandily (cbrandily) | 16:27 |
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| njohnston_ | jreeves: You should probably abandon https://review.openstack.org/274873/ since it got squashed into https://review.openstack.org/251738/ | 16:27 |
| ZZelle | enriquetaso, honestly i would recommend to start with something easier | 16:27 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, didn't notice the tags, thanks! so do you have any update on that? we need to wait till N opens? | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | enriquetaso: have you checked low hanging fruits? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=low-hanging-fruit | 16:27 |
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| ihrachys | ZZelle+ | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | rossella_s: probably yes. we need to chase armax :) | 16:28 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, low-hanging-fruit are not an option...for some reasons we have only few of them and they are always assigned or kind of invalid | 16:28 |
| jreeves | njohnston: done | 16:28 |
| njohnston_ | jreeves: Thanks! | 16:29 |
| sayalilunkad | rossella_s: right | 16:29 |
| ZZelle | enriquetaso, the main trouble is not to remove the code itself but to migrate existing deployments | 16:29 |
| armax | ihrachys, rossella_s chase for what? | 16:29 |
| rossella_s | armax for the oslo versionedobject stuff | 16:29 |
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| armax | rossella_s: is there anything that will benefit you if it landed in mitaka rc? | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | armax: we have some patches that are isolated from production code (some new classes + tests for them). were wondering whether we wait for them in Mitaka or we can merge those completely unbound from the other code | 16:30 |
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| armax | ihrachys, rossella_s I would imagine that none of this stuff is worth backporting though, I mean once N opens up | 16:30 |
| armax | ihrachys: or no? | 16:31 |
| rossella_s | armax, if we get them merged we can collaborate more easily | 16:31 |
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| ihrachys | armax: especially concerned in sight of having code sprint in a week. will we have the master branch unlocked till then? | 16:31 |
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| armax | let me check when N opens up | 16:31 |
| armax | ihrachys: it’s not far | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | because if not, we may want to have some backup plan | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | like github or separate branch or something. for the time of the sprint. | 16:31 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, right... | 16:32 |
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| ihrachys | but if we would open master during next week, that would probably be good enough | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | not ideal, but ok | 16:32 |
| armax | ihrachys: I think N will open March 14 | 16:32 |
| armax | when is the sprint again? | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | armax: March 14-16 | 16:33 |
| rossella_s | armax, just in time | 16:33 |
| armax | ok, let me confirm and we’ll figure out a plan by then | 16:33 |
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| rossella_s | armax, thanks a lot | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | cool thanks :) | 16:33 |
| armax | for now, I’d imagine you guys can still keep on working | 16:33 |
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| armax | or is there something you’d love to merge at all costs? | 16:33 |
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| ihrachys | armax: the more patches you have in stacks the worse it becomes | 16:33 |
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| armax | I couldn’t see anything when I blocked it the other day | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | armax: I would try to merge those small things unbound from other code | 16:34 |
| armax | ihrachys: isn’t that always? :) | 16:34 |
| armax | ihrachys: none of them looked ready | 16:34 |
| rossella_s | armax, you are probably right actually | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | armax: some of them were. I think we could get some more during this week. | 16:34 |
| armax | ihrachys: go for it | 16:34 |
| armax | ihrachys: let’s reassess during next meeting | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | armax: great. I will make sure nothing that could break a thing will get near the gate | 16:34 |
| armax | ihrachys: attaboy | 16:35 |
| armax | that’s what I like to hear! | 16:35 |
| enriquetaso | ZZelle: it's not so simple, I understand. There is documentation available to do it? rossella_s I have not lucky | 16:35 |
| armax | worship your gate | 16:35 |
| rossella_s | armax, me too!! :) | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | amen | 16:35 |
| armax | and you shall be rewarded with heaven | 16:35 |
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| armax | rossella_s: gate bless, rossella_s, gate bless | 16:35 |
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| rossella_s | armax, lol | 16:36 |
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| ZZelle | enriquetaso, no documentation is available. kevinbenton and i defined a migration workflow to remove external_network_bridge BUT i never got the time to write it and define associated RFEs | 16:39 |
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| ZZelle | enriquetaso, because the migration requires features which doesn't exist currently | 16:40 |
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| ZZelle | enriquetaso, ie: neutron-l3-agent should be able to update its l2-agent bridge_mapping | 16:41 |
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| ihrachys | ZZelle: it involves rewiring right? | 16:43 |
| ZZelle | ihrachys, also :) | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | ZZelle: that's the worst part | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | not something you could expect a newcomer to handle | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | also rewiring means data plane disruption which may not be a good thing at all | 16:44 |
| rossella_s | ZZelle, there's nothing about that in the bug report, I thought it was created only as a reminder to remove the config entry | 16:44 |
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| Sasi | Hi All | 16:44 |
| ZZelle | rossella_s, yes, that's the part i never wrote (sick) | 16:45 |
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| rossella_s | ZZelle, anyway that explained why it was defined as "Medium" | 16:45 |
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| Sasi | I have created a vm using --nic port-id=<port-id> | 16:45 |
| ZZelle | rossella_s, the main trouble with this removal is that we remove the default behavior which implies a migration | 16:45 |
| Sasi | VM came into Active state but if I see neutron port-show I find the status of it is DOWN | 16:46 |
| Sasi | anyone help me in this | 16:46 |
| rossella_s | ZZelle, I got it now after your explanation | 16:46 |
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| rossella_s | ZZelle, didn't think about it when reading the bug...I will add a comment, so enriquetaso sorry my suggestion was misleading | 16:46 |
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| ZZelle | rossella_s, i didn't think about when i started the removal :s | 16:47 |
| ZZelle | rossella_s, no need to do it, iam :) | 16:47 |
| enriquetaso | rossella_s: np! ZZelle thanks for the time!! | 16:47 |
| enriquetaso | rossella_s: thanks | 16:47 |
| rossella_s | ZZelle, I am not writing the whole novel, just that a migration is needed so that other people that will look at it, will know that it's not so simple | 16:48 |
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| rossella_s | enriquetaso, no worries we will find something for you...the research it tougher than expected but you are getting to know the people here :) | 16:50 |
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| jschwarz | salv-orl_, ping, re: neutron/db/quota/ when you have a few minutes :) | 16:51 |
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| ihrachys | mfranc213: you are right, I forgot about the client | 16:52 |
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| mfranc213 | ihrachys: there's so much flying around :) | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | steve proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add support for external vxlan encapsulation to neutron router https://review.openstack.org/282180 | 17:00 |
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| ajo | ihrachys, I will respin without the unneeded blank lines | 17:00 |
| ajo | if that's ok | 17:00 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: as you wish. we don't have approval for freeze right now, so it's not like we can't wait for another CI run | 17:01 |
| ihrachys | mfranc213: I reviewed client. just tiny nits and I am good | 17:02 |
| ajo | ihrachys, yep | 17:02 |
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| amuller | ihrachys: jlibosva: mtg | 17:03 |
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| vhoward | ihrachys: ajo: we will address requested client mods now | 17:06 |
| ajo | vhoward, ack, I'm on the last comments by ihrachys | 17:07 |
| vhoward | thx for quick turnaround | 17:07 |
| mfranc213 | thank you ihrachys. vhoward is on it :) | 17:07 |
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| mfranc213 | what he said | 17:07 |
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| vhoward | oh okay ajo: go nuts | 17:07 |
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| vhoward | let me know if you need help then | 17:07 |
| ihrachys | API guide changes. not sure how to review those effectively. do we know how to check the output? | 17:07 |
| vikram_ | iharchys: ping | 17:08 |
| vikram_ | iharchys: can you plz join #openstack-meeting-4 | 17:08 |
| vhoward | jreeves: and i used the tempest run from yesterdays api testing to update the spec | 17:09 |
| vikram_ | for SFC meeting | 17:09 |
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| ajo | ihrachys, does this sound reasonable enough? http://fpaste.org/333111/57025652/ | 17:21 |
| ajo | ihrachys, I was trying to override setUp, but multiple inheritance was messing me ;) | 17:21 |
| ihrachys | ajo: I don't mind that much. I would be ok if you just leave it as-is too :) | 17:22 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: though super() should have worked for you as long as all classes in MRO call to i | 17:22 |
| ihrachys | *to it | 17:22 |
| ajo | ihrachys, I personally preferred to fix it. | 17:22 |
| ajo | ihrachys, it didn't for some reason :? | 17:23 |
| ajo | ihrachys, may be it's the ordering | 17:23 |
| ajo | ihrachys, the ones that set db_obj need to go first, I guess? | 17:23 |
| ihrachys | ajo: oh I see. yes, order probably matters | 17:24 |
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| dougwig | Sam-I-Am: johnsom tells me that some octavia docs got nuked. do you know anything about that? | 17:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: DSCP QoS rule implementation https://review.openstack.org/251738 | 17:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | dougwig: nope. where were they in the first place? | 17:28 |
| dougwig | johnsom: ? | 17:29 |
| johnsom | Sam-I-Am: http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/config-reference/content/networking-plugin-lbaas.html | 17:29 |
| johnsom | Sam-I-Am The section for octavia.conf and Table 10.68 | 17:29 |
| ajo | ihrachys, there is it ^ | 17:29 |
| johnsom | Sam-I-Am The current version has that section missing: http://docs.openstack.org/draft/config-reference/networking/networking_options_reference.html | 17:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | could be a problem with the automation scripts | 17:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | i recommend filing a docs bug | 17:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | i cant look into it now | 17:31 |
| johnsom | Sam-I-Am https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1552797 | 17:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1552797 in octavia "Octavia configuration options were deleted but required" [Critical,Confirmed] | 17:31 |
| ihrachys | ajo: meh. -1. | 17:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | looks like it might have been lost in the docbook to rst conversion | 17:32 |
| ajo | ihrachys, what did I break? | 17:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | anne posted a comment there | 17:32 |
| ihrachys | ajo: see comments | 17:32 |
| ihrachys | ajo: you use old style classes | 17:32 |
| ajo | oh, yikes, true | 17:32 |
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| johnsom | Sam-I-Am Yeah, I looked at that, but it seems these are auto-generated per the comments in the files, so I think her advice to do the conversion and check in is off base | 17:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: DSCP QoS rule implementation https://review.openstack.org/251738 | 17:33 |
| ajo | ihrachys, ^ fixed and peppd | 17:34 |
| ihrachys | ajo: +2 | 17:34 |
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| rossella_s | ajo ihrachys is bug 1536540 still valid? is it only about not spreading the trace, right? | 17:36 |
| openstack | bug 1536540 in neutron "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'port_name' when deleting an instance with QoS policy attached" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1536540 - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo) | 17:36 |
| rossella_s | ajo ihrachys looking for a low hanging fruit for a beginner | 17:36 |
| ajo | rossella_s, reading | 17:36 |
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| salv-orlando | jschwarz: I'm here for you | 17:37 |
| jschwarz | salv-orlando, gracias :) | 17:37 |
| ajo | rossella_s, probably yes, ping itziq when he's around | 17:37 |
| jschwarz | salv-orlando, so amuller mentioned you wrote some code that handles the races when adding ports | 17:37 |
| ajo | next monday, I guess but should be easy to reproduce | 17:37 |
| amuller | jschwarz: quotas | 17:37 |
| jschwarz | salv-orlando, ie. if the quota = 5 and I try to add 10 different ports at the same time, the quota code will yell about this after the first 5 | 17:37 |
| salv-orlando | jschwarz: not all the races, just those which might allow tenants to go over limit | 17:38 |
| rossella_s | ajo, that sound a bit complex for a beginner then, thanks! | 17:38 |
| vhoward | ihrachys: ajo: testing client updates per review now | 17:38 |
| ajo | yeah rossella_s , probably, low hanging fruits are hard to find :) | 17:38 |
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| jschwarz | salv-orlando, I was looking for the patch that puts in this restriction.. I found the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188608/ but missing the link the the create_port | 17:38 |
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| salv-orlando | jschwarz: the enforcement happens in the API layer, before the call is dispatched to the plugin | 17:39 |
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| jschwarz | salv-orlando, ah.. wow | 17:39 |
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| jschwarz | salv-orlando, I was thinking on maybe using that to put in restrictions on different resources, like 1 HA network per tenant or at most 'max_l3_agents_per_router' bindings for HA routers | 17:40 |
| rossella_s | ajo right! thanks for your help anyway! | 17:40 |
| salv-orlando | jschwarz: this bit enters the reservation before creating the resource http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron/tree/neutron/api/v2/base.py#n450 | 17:40 |
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| salv-orlando | and then the reservation is committed after so the usage trackers are updated | 17:40 |
| salv-orlando | jschwarz: in theory we could do that, but you'll have to add the hooks for enforcing the quota in the rpc handler | 17:41 |
| jschwarz | salv-orlando, sounds reasonable... | 17:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron-lib: WIP - Add minimal db and context stuff https://review.openstack.org/267214 | 17:41 |
| jschwarz | salv-orlando, I'll give it some coding time next week and see how difficult it is.. will be sure to add you as a reviewer :) | 17:42 |
| jschwarz | salv-orlando, thanks for the help | 17:42 |
| salv-orlando | jschwarz: np, I'm around if you need more info | 17:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Howard proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Adding DSCP marking changes to neutronclient https://review.openstack.org/254280 | 17:42 |
| vhoward | ajo: ihrachys: rotating from client to the manuals patch, updating based on feedback there | 17:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Queries for DVR-aware floating IP next-hop lookups https://review.openstack.org/270971 | 17:49 |
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| krotscheck | Heya - I'm working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.config/+bug/1551836/ , and have a patch ready at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286818/ . It's flagged as high-priority, and the equivalent in nova was deemed a mitaka-blocker. Can I get some cores to look at the patch? | 17:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1551836 in neutron "CORS middleware's latent configuration options need to change" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Michael (krotscheck) | 17:52 |
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| vikram_ | tidewellr: ping | 17:55 |
| vhoward | advanced qos guide popping in a sec ajo: ihrachys | 17:56 |
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| cbouch | core branch reviewers: Easy cherry pick review for liberty https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287790/. My peer is anxious for this simple commit. | 18:01 |
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| tidwellr | armax: ping | 18:05 |
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| ihrachys | cbouch: cisco is dropped from the stadium. you probably should have your own team to handle stable reviews from now on. | 18:08 |
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| cbouch | ihrachys: Thank you. Much appreciated the prompt feedback. | 18:09 |
| ihrachys | armax: ajo: how can we get an exception for dscp patches? | 18:09 |
| pc_m | ihrachys: Dropped for liberty or all release? | 18:09 |
| ihrachys | pc_m: that's a good question | 18:09 |
| ihrachys | pc_m: I bet armax should have an answer :) | 18:09 |
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| pc_m | ihrachys: One issue is that there is noone from Cisco with +2 for liberty. | 18:09 |
| pc_m | ihrachys: BTW, when did that change happen (first I've heard about it) | 18:10 |
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| ihrachys | pc_m: so there should probably be several patches from cisco folks - one to move the project into big tent (in governance); another to enable stable votes for core team (in project-config) | 18:10 |
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| pc_m | ihrachys: I thought it was part of big tent | 18:11 |
| ihrachys | pc_m: pc_m https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276461/ | 18:11 |
| ihrachys | pc_m: it was under neutron stadium tent | 18:11 |
| ihrachys | now that cisco is off the stadium, you need to get an official status as a root project for big tent | 18:11 |
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| ihrachys | pc_m: f.e. see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277153/ | 18:12 |
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| ihrachys | I admit that's not as fun as coding | 18:13 |
| amuller | ihrachys: armax: Maybe the exclusion of projects from the stadium should be communicated on openstack-dev and/or elsewhere | 18:13 |
| amuller | I imagine other projects are also unaware of their new reality | 18:13 |
| ihrachys | amuller: looks like it | 18:13 |
| pc_m | ihrachys: I guess I wasn't following the tent stuff closely (I thought there was just one tent), and I thought networking-cisso was already handled. | 18:13 |
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| ihrachys | pc_m: before supervision was TC->armax->cisco; now it will be TC->cisco | 18:14 |
| pc_m | amuller: Yeah, kindof a surpise to me. Not communicated well. | 18:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Martin Hickey proposed openstack/neutron: Port allowed address pairs to OVO https://review.openstack.org/268274 | 18:14 |
| amuller | pc_m: surprise! | 18:14 |
| ihrachys | :D | 18:15 |
| ihrachys | amuller: I guess our glorious PTL is busy with other stuff these days. stadium thing can wait a bit | 18:15 |
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| pc_m | I guess I need to relay this to mgmt and I have a funny feeling I know what I'll be doing for a while... | 18:15 |
| pc_m | ihrachys: Thanks for the update | 18:16 |
| mhickey | ihrachys: Hi. Can I get you to put a -1 on a patch for me? | 18:16 |
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| mhickey | workflow -1 that is | 18:16 |
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| ihrachys | mhickey: link | 18:17 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268274/ | 18:18 |
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| ihrachys | mhickey: done. | 18:18 |
| * ihrachys -> life | 18:18 | |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: thanks | 18:18 |
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| armax | amuller_afk: there is nothing to communicate yet | 18:19 |
| armax | amuller_afk: we haven’t finalized anything | 18:19 |
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| armax | pc_m: let me send an email, because it seems there’s a bit of confusion on this | 18:21 |
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| amuller_afk | armax: I'm referring to patches that were already merged | 18:23 |
| amuller_afk | armax: like the patch that split networking-cisco out | 18:23 |
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| pc_m | armax: So the issue is that we need approvals on commits for networking-cisco branch under liberty, which presently there is no one in cisco with that ability. | 18:25 |
| pc_m | kindof a big issue | 18:25 |
| armax | amuller_afk: those don’t matter | 18:26 |
| armax | amuller_afk: the ones that matters are the project-config and governance patches | 18:26 |
| armax | pc_m: I am perfectly aware of the issue | 18:27 |
| armax | pc_m: people can’t have it both ways | 18:27 |
| pc_m | armax: But I'm not, nor I think are many at cisco | 18:27 |
| armax | we need to strike a common ground that everyone is happy with | 18:27 |
| pc_m | armax: bottom line is how do we get approval for commits to liberty | 18:28 |
| pc_m | ? | 18:28 |
| armax | pc_m: review bandwidth | 18:28 |
| armax | pc_m: if there’s none, there’s none | 18:28 |
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| armax | pc_m: what changes are you talking about? | 18:29 |
| armax | pc_m: I want to solve this situation, don’t get me wrong, but I have other priorities | 18:29 |
| pc_m | armax: cbouch is trying to get a commit reviewed. | 18:29 |
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| pc_m | armax: So is the summary... currently, we need neutron stable cores to review. If we move to big tent, then we can do it ourselves? | 18:30 |
| armax | pc_m: ok, share it with us in channel as you’ve done so far and we’ll get to it when we can | 18:30 |
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| armax | pc_m: that’s the nutshell, I suppose | 18:30 |
| vhoward | armax: unsure if you saw this earlier [13:09] <ihrachys> armax: ajo: how can we get an exception for dscp patches? | 18:31 |
| pc_m | armax: OK. Will relay to mgmt. THe review she has is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287790/ | 18:31 |
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| vhoward | <hides> | 18:31 |
| pc_m | Thanks for the clarification and help | 18:31 |
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| armax | pc_m: the cherry-pick has been there for few hours only…pfff | 18:33 |
| cbouch | armax: Thank you. I just need one more person to complete +2/workflow+1 | 18:33 |
| armax | there are no outstanding liberty cherry picks for the cisco repo... | 18:34 |
| armax | not sure I grasp the urgency | 18:34 |
| cbouch | armax: Usually I'm patient but one of my peers an anxious for this commit. Since it is relatively small, I thought it wouldn't be a problem to request now. | 18:34 |
| armax | nor the gravity of the isssues being fixed | 18:34 |
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| cbouch | armax: It is holding up peers test effort. | 18:35 |
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| armax | cbouch: I am not sure that’s true | 18:37 |
| armax | cbouch: one can always cherry pick | 18:38 |
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| * pc_m thinking far less BW would have been consumed by just approving a simple cherry-pick | 18:42 | |
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| sc68cal_ | cbouch: bad week to be anxious | 18:43 |
| openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: Avoid calling _get_subnet(s) multiple times in ipam driver https://review.openstack.org/281116 | 18:43 |
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| sc68cal_ | 3rd milestone is never a good time to be expecting things to go in | 18:43 |
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| cbouch | sc68cal_: I don't usually make much noise. I'll go back to my hideyhole. | 18:46 |
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| sc68cal_ | cbouch: It's not that we're asking you to go away. I think the timing is bad. The third milestone is never a good time to be asking for things to merge. It's last minute. I would actually suggest being more communicative, earlier in the cycle. | 18:47 |
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| cbouch | sc68cal_: It's a one-line bug fix. | 18:48 |
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| sc68cal_ | cbouch: So why did it wait until this week? | 18:49 |
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| armax | pc_m: dude, it’s approved, what else do you want? | 18:50 |
| armax | jee | 18:50 |
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| cbouch | sc68cal_: It just showed up this week. | 18:50 |
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| armax | if people started thinking more collectively, we’d be in a much better place | 18:50 |
| sc68cal_ | cbouch: well, that's bad luck, but we're at a stage of the release where there is limited bandwidth and a lot of risk in merging things. Let's give the cores some breathing room to get their job done. If it's one line, then a week won't kill it. | 18:51 |
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| pc_m | armax: Just making a simple observation that if a request for a simple review (that was needed to prevent other people from being block) was just approved, we wouldn't have 5-6 people discussing for 30 mins. | 18:54 |
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| armax | pc_m: you clearly still miss the point | 18:54 |
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| armax | pc_m: you shouldn’t have raise the fuss in the first place | 18:55 |
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| armax | pc_m: and you above all else should know how busy this week is to come and beg for a one liner to merge in stable liberty | 18:55 |
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| armax | dougwig: can you get this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287790/ out of my sight, please? | 18:56 |
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| pc_m | armax: Read the scrollback. I asked a simple question (13:09). I wasn't begging for a one line merge. | 18:57 |
| armax | pc_m: you already know I am not going to | 18:58 |
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| anteaya | so for folks who don't know the release schedule is published: http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html | 18:59 |
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| anteaya | and folks are encouraged to point their management chain at that link | 18:59 |
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| anteaya | and here is the one for newton if folks want to bookmark it: http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 19:00 |
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| mordred | hey all | 19:01 |
| anteaya | and feature freeze time is a time to focus on priority reviews | 19:01 |
| mordred | armax: so - the latest version of neutronclient seems to have changed the interface in a pretty drastic way | 19:01 |
| armax | mordred: has it? | 19:01 |
| mordred | armax: create_network now only returns a list of request-ids where before it returned the network object | 19:01 |
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| mordred | http://paste.openstack.org/show/489221/ | 19:01 |
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| armax | mordred: wow | 19:01 |
| mordred | armax: http://paste.openstack.org/show/489219/ | 19:01 |
| * armax goes and check | 19:02 | |
| mordred | that's what we got (ish) with the old neutronclient | 19:02 |
| mordred | that produces this error with 4.1: http://paste.openstack.org/show/489217/ | 19:02 |
| armax | mordred: that’s clearly not intended | 19:02 |
| mordred | and then when we print net - we get the first paste | 19:02 |
| Shrews | yes. this is no bueno | 19:02 |
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| mordred | armax: I figured it probably wasn't :) | 19:02 |
| armax | mordred: :) | 19:02 |
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| rcarrillocruz | no bueno at all :( | 19:02 |
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| * armax pushed the fire alarm button | 19:02 | |
| armax | mordred: let me look into | 19:03 |
| mordred | armax: awesome. thanks! | 19:03 |
| Shrews | armax: thx | 19:03 |
| armax | mordred: thanks for catching this so fast | 19:03 |
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| armax | I am baffled how this could have happened | 19:03 |
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| Shrews | armax: shade API testing is incredibly thorough :) | 19:03 |
| armax | Shrews: well I’d argue that should have been caught in our own tests | 19:04 |
| armax | Shrews: is there a bug filed agaisnt this? | 19:04 |
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| mordred | armax: we came in to here first thing | 19:04 |
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| mordred | rcarrillocruz: you found it - you wanna file the bug? :) | 19:05 |
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| armax | mordred: this gotta be a client bug | 19:05 |
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| rcarrillocruz | sure | 19:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Use SIGCHLD to inform l3 agent of PD update https://review.openstack.org/265047 | 19:06 |
| rcarrillocruz | armax: you use launchpad i assume | 19:06 |
| rcarrillocruz | ? | 19:06 |
| armax | rcarrillocruz: we do | 19:06 |
| rcarrillocruz | k, will file it | 19:06 |
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| armax | rcarrillocruz: please let me know as soon as you filed this, I am trying to repro locally so thatI can come up with a fix | 19:09 |
| armax | or revert | 19:09 |
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| armax | mordred: btw, please give a try to get-me-a-network | 19:10 |
| mordred | armax: I will! | 19:10 |
| anteaya | armax: that is available via neutron cli only at present, yes? | 19:11 |
| armax | anteaya: ya | 19:11 |
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| anteaya | great thanks, just confirming | 19:11 |
| * anteaya is overjoyed it is available | 19:11 | |
| armax | let me look up the docs | 19:11 |
| rcarrillocruz | armax: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/+bug/1552871 | 19:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1552871 in python-neutronclient "python-neutronclient 4.1.0 changed interface on create-network" [Undecided,New] | 19:11 |
| armax | rcarrillocruz: thanks | 19:11 |
| rcarrillocruz | can't really point to neutron issue, as i just saw it by using shade | 19:12 |
| mordred | armax: so - looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270118/13/neutronclient/v2_0/client.py | 19:12 |
| mordred | it seems that where before what was returned was a dict | 19:12 |
| armax | anteaya, mordred: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/37/287937/3/check/gate-openstack-manuals-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/4cd314c//publish-docs/draft/networking-guide/intro-os-networking-features.html | 19:13 |
| * armax looks | 19:13 | |
| anteaya | armax: thank you! | 19:13 |
| mordred | now what is being returned is a dict-like-object and request-ids is not a key/value in that dict, but instead is a property on the dict-like object | 19:13 |
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| armax | mordred: wow, that went in without me looking | 19:14 |
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| armax | mordred: I am gonna have to tell someone off | 19:14 |
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| anteaya | nice post to the mailing list armax | 19:16 |
| armax | anteaya: the one about the stadium? | 19:16 |
| anteaya | yes | 19:17 |
| anteaya | nice tone | 19:17 |
| armax | you should thank armax clone #6 | 19:17 |
| armax | this is armax clone #3 speaking now | 19:17 |
| anteaya | thank you armax clone #6, great job | 19:17 |
| anteaya | thanks clone #3 | 19:17 |
| armax | I’ll pass that along | 19:17 |
| anteaya | was wondering how you were able to do all the things | 19:17 |
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| armax | it’s great what genetic engineering can do | 19:18 |
| anteaya | the wonders of science | 19:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Use the dictionary for request_ids https://review.openstack.org/288072 | 19:20 |
| armax | mordred: you take away all the fun | 19:20 |
| mordred | armax: :) | 19:20 |
| mordred | sorry | 19:20 |
| armax | mordred: come on! | 19:20 |
| mordred | armax: sometimes I rage code | 19:20 |
| armax | but now you got me all pumped up | 19:20 |
| mordred | armax: well, my patch is probably terrible | 19:20 |
| armax | where do I funnel my rage now? | 19:20 |
| mordred | armax: there are so many places | 19:20 |
| * armax nods | 19:21 | |
| mordred | armax: but also - seriously - my patch may be terrible | 19:21 |
| armax | mordred: but you confirm this solves the issue for you? | 19:21 |
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| anteaya | I doubt that | 19:22 |
| anteaya | he just probably typed and pressed submit | 19:22 |
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| mordred | anteaya: no. I have not done that yet - that's just me thinking out loud | 19:22 |
| anteaya | yup | 19:22 |
| anteaya | never ever consider monty's code tested | 19:22 |
| anteaya | always always test it yourself | 19:23 |
| anteaya | it is a mantra for infra | 19:23 |
| mordred | armax: I just asked rcarrillocruz to see if that fixes it for him | 19:23 |
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| armax | I am way slower than you, I am still reading your commit message | 19:24 |
| rcarrillocruz | yep, will try in a bit | 19:25 |
| john-davidge | haleyb: Hey Brian, sorry - my IRC client had died. Are you still haming issues with GMR on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265047 ? | 19:25 |
| john-davidge | *having | 19:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | btw, i'll open another one in a bit too, creating a network with a tenant_id doesn't seem to check the tenant_id actually exists | 19:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | neutron net-create lolnet --tenant-id loltenant | 19:26 |
| rcarrillocruz | gets created | 19:26 |
| rcarrillocruz | yet loltenant doesn't exist | 19:26 |
| rcarrillocruz | python-openstackclient works fine, showing loltenant does not exist | 19:26 |
| rcarrillocruz | brb | 19:26 |
| armax | rcarrillocruz: can’t repro this | 19:28 |
| armax | something is not quite right | 19:29 |
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| armax | mordred: I can’t seem to repro this locally with 4.1.1 | 19:33 |
| armax | sorry 4.1.0 | 19:33 |
| mordred | armax: it may have something to do to how we post-process dicts - we're also looking in to that | 19:34 |
| armax | mordred: that’s what I see | 19:35 |
| armax | http://paste.openstack.org/show/489226/ | 19:35 |
| mordred | armax: k. awesome. (although I still think the attribute-on-dict is a weird interface) | 19:35 |
| mordred | armax: I tink I found a bug on our side | 19:36 |
| armax | mordred: the same outcome on 3.1.1 | 19:36 |
| armax | mordred: where exactly? | 19:36 |
| mordred | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/shade/tree/shade/meta.py#n341 | 19:36 |
| armax | perhaps that was just ‘copied’ from | 19:36 |
| mordred | that should be isinstance(dict) not type(dict) | 19:36 |
| mordred | so I think we're only converting the object properties to dict, rathe rthan consuming the dict itself | 19:36 |
| armax | oh, that’s your bug then | 19:37 |
| mordred | yah | 19:37 |
| armax | crisis averted then? | 19:37 |
| mordred | for now ... | 19:37 |
| armax | of course for now | 19:37 |
| mordred | there's always something | 19:37 |
| armax | mordred: why would you think otherwise! | 19:37 |
| armax | so, is there anything you would like us to cleanup? | 19:37 |
| armax | clearly something did change | 19:38 |
| armax | to expose the issue | 19:38 |
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| armax | and perhaps there’s something on our part we can do? | 19:38 |
| mordred | well - this happened with a different client too and I thought we'd worked around it | 19:39 |
| mordred | the client stopped returning a dict and now returns a dict-lke-object | 19:39 |
| mordred | so our code to detect the type was faulty | 19:39 |
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| armax | by the look of it | 19:39 |
| mordred | but it is also a difference in return type | 19:39 |
| mordred | that said - I think it's fine | 19:40 |
| mordred | but I do think that putting the request_ids in the dict rather than as properties would 'feel' better as a consumer | 19:40 |
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| mordred | since I've grown used to expecting dicts back from neutronclient | 19:40 |
| armax | this might be a pattern being adopted by all the clients that implement https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack/?searchtext=return-request-id-to-caller | 19:40 |
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| mordred | yah. it's entirely probably | 19:40 |
| mordred | which is a cool thing | 19:40 |
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| armax | entirely probably, love it | 19:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron-lib: WIP - Add minimal db and context stuff https://review.openstack.org/267214 | 19:42 |
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| ihrachys | armax: howdy. are you too deep in emergencies? | 19:47 |
| armax | ihrachys: shoot | 19:47 |
| ihrachys | armax: first thing, constraints - are we at the point where we want to get back to it and cover remainings? or we still wait? | 19:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | armax: do i need to send scotch your way? | 19:48 |
| armax | ihrachys: tell me more, I am not sure I understand fully what you’re asking | 19:48 |
| ihrachys | armax: renaming of tox targets from -constraints to usual names without the postfix (+ project-config pieces) | 19:49 |
| ihrachys | armax: last time we talked it thru, you wanted to look at it later after m3 | 19:49 |
| armax | andreas looked into that actually | 19:49 |
| armax | hang on | 19:50 |
| armax | good thing you brought this up | 19:50 |
| armax | because I meant to fill you in | 19:50 |
| ihrachys | armax: which one? scheuran? | 19:50 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286778/ | 19:50 |
| armax | jaeger | 19:50 |
| armax | I added on the the review | 19:50 |
| ihrachys | hm, ok, got it. looking. | 19:50 |
| armax | so, we’re set there, we only need to figure out when to pull the trigger | 19:51 |
| armax | I noticed you filed | 19:51 |
| armax | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1552742 | 19:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1552742 in neutron "macvtap: automatically generate example config file" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Andreas Scheuring (andreas-scheuring) | 19:51 |
| armax | I mean not you | 19:51 |
| armax | but we should be carefully targeting stuff for rc1 before we approve | 19:51 |
| armax | capisce? | 19:51 |
| armax | I’ll send a reminder not to merge indisciminately | 19:52 |
| ihrachys | armax: ok, I thought that was an obvious missing bit from an RFE | 19:52 |
| armax | ihrachys: that’s fine | 19:52 |
| armax | but from now on we should switch geaar | 19:52 |
| armax | and approve only targeted stuff | 19:52 |
| armax | anything else should be shot down | 19:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Manjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: ADD API tests for network ip availability https://review.openstack.org/283357 | 19:53 |
| manjeets | armax: used the method to skip tests way address-scope extension does | 19:53 |
| armax | ihrachys anything else you wanna cover? | 19:53 |
| armax | manjeets: I’ll look | 19:53 |
| ihrachys | the order of constraints patches is weird a bit - we first expose neutron to unconstrained gate, then enable constraints back. instead of doing smth vice versa | 19:54 |
| manjeets | armax: thanks | 19:54 |
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| ihrachys | armax: yes, second thing is exception process for featureful bugs like dscp. does https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/FeatureFreeze apply there? or there is some other procedure? | 19:54 |
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| armax | ihrachys: at this point we should look into targeting the bug fix for rc1 | 19:55 |
| armax | ihrachys: I have been meaning to look into it | 19:55 |
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| armax | bear with me | 19:55 |
| ihrachys | armax: I honestly think we (qos team) failed on that one - it should have been a proper RFE | 19:55 |
| armax | ihrachys: it was then you walked away | 19:56 |
| armax | ihrachys: yes, better planning would have helped | 19:56 |
| armax | ihrachys: live eand learn | 19:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Manjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: ADD API tests for network ip availability https://review.openstack.org/283357 | 19:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: [DO NOT MERGE] Patch to test IPv6 only job and multinode grenade https://review.openstack.org/187235 | 20:04 |
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| ihrachys_ | armax: that's good for dscp. how do we go with other bugs that I see worth fixing in Mitaka? do I reach you to target it? or there is some other process? I don't want to waste your attention too much, so if there is some better process, I am glad to follow it. http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#common-cycle-with-development-milestones doesn't give proper answer. | 20:08 |
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| armax | I sent an eamil just now | 20:09 |
| ihrachys_ | great. looking. | 20:09 |
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| ihrachys_ | armax: I don't think https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1498987 should have a freeze exception. can I retarget to N? | 20:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498987 in neutron "DHCP agent should provide ipv6 RAs for isolated networks with ipv6 subnets" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 20:17 |
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| njohnston | armax: Just to make sure, your email says to "Apply/agree to FFE status for pending features on the postmortem", but DSCP is not on the postmortem, because of it's anomaloys non-RFE status. Should an exception request for DSCP follow the same process? | 20:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Fix pecan collection->plugin map for extensions https://review.openstack.org/287611 | 20:30 |
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| amuller | armax: http://blogs.rdoproject.org/7874/skydive-a-real-time-network-analyzer | 20:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Adds Prefix Delegation support for DVR. https://review.openstack.org/277657 | 20:46 |
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| AJaeger | ihrachys: regarding the constraints jobs: Do you want to propose the three-step changes? | 20:50 |
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| ihrachys | AJaeger: I planned to look into it, but armax told me you cover for it. I am happy to get to those patches tomorrow in the morning if you don't feel like, | 20:50 |
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| ihrachys | AJaeger: merge coordination is probably not such a big deal as stable branch I guess | 20:51 |
| AJaeger | ihrachys: that would be great if you could take over. Feel free to patch over my patches - or tell me to abandon mine... | 20:51 |
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| ihrachys | AJaeger: I will proceed from your patches, thanks | 20:51 |
| ihrachys | AJaeger: no need to abandon | 20:51 |
| AJaeger | ihrachys: thanks for taking over, really appreciated. | 20:52 |
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| ihrachys | np, my pleasure, and thanks for starting | 20:53 |
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| haleyb | john-davidge: np, i abandoned that review | 20:53 |
| bjornar | Is it possible have the gateway for an external network on every compute node? | 20:53 |
| AJaeger | if there's anything you need, please grab me on #openstack-infra | 20:53 |
| john-davidge | haleyb: Ok, cool | 20:54 |
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| ihrachys | bjornar: it's called dvr :) | 20:54 |
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| bjornar | ihrachys, so that makes the gateway from the br-ext allways a local vmac? | 20:55 |
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| ihrachys | bjornar: every compute node will be directly accessed to br-ex: http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/networking-guide/scenario-dvr-ovs.html | 20:56 |
| amuller | armax: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280427/ | 20:57 |
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| amuller | HenryG: ihrachys: ^ | 20:57 |
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| HenryG | amuller: ack | 20:59 |
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| ihrachys | amuller: all those tests are already in tempest right? | 21:01 |
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| bjornar | ihrachys, but dvr is based on l2, right, where br-ex has a real interface connected | 21:01 |
| bjornar | ihrachys, I am talking about a br-ex where the gateway on the external network (say 1.0.0.1) will allways be a veth on the current compute host | 21:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Queries for DVR-aware floating IP next-hop lookups https://review.openstack.org/270971 | 21:03 |
| ihrachys | bjornar: br-ex is not managed by neutron itself. it's set by your deployment tool. so whatever you plug into the bridge from external side, it's not of neutron business. | 21:04 |
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| bjornar | Hrmm | 21:05 |
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| bjornar | ihrachys, since neutron does not manage it, it means I cant do vxlan's here? | 21:06 |
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| amuller | ihrachys: all of the tests that are removed are already in tempest, yes | 21:06 |
| ihrachys | amuller: not really | 21:07 |
| ihrachys | amuller: neutron/tests/api/admin/test_external_network_extension.py | 21:07 |
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| ihrachys | RBAC tests | 21:07 |
| ihrachys | I don't see them | 21:07 |
| ihrachys | the tests are very fresh | 21:07 |
| amuller | ihrachys: I didn't remove the RBAC tests..? | 21:07 |
| ihrachys | I suspect you kill something that should not be killed? | 21:07 |
| amuller | ihrachys: The intention was to remove a subset of tests that exists in both repos | 21:07 |
| ihrachys | amuller: well that ended up in a different way it seems. let me go thru the rest of files, it may take some time. | 21:08 |
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| amuller | ihrachys: no need | 21:09 |
| amuller | ihrachys: I can automate it, I'll do it now | 21:09 |
| ihrachys | amuller: ok, but I will still need to do it later if you want me to vote then | 21:09 |
| ihrachys | amuller: I don't vote for anything I am not sure :) | 21:09 |
| amuller | ihrachys: so unreasonable :) | 21:09 |
| ihrachys | amuller: yeah, bad for my review stats | 21:10 |
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| amuller | ihrachys: I'll put up some bash scripts in the commit message or in TESTING.rst or summit | 21:14 |
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| ihrachys | amuller: not sure you saw it, I caught one more tiny issue there; posted comments. | 21:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: Handle unbound allowed_address_pair port with FIP https://review.openstack.org/254439 | 21:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Fix pecan collection->plugin map for extensions https://review.openstack.org/287611 | 21:46 |
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| amuller | ihrachys_: grr I removed 13 tests that don't exist in Tempest | 21:51 |
| amuller | ihrachys_: should have double checked, my bad | 21:51 |
| sc68cal_ | no shame in a revert | 21:52 |
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| ihrachys_ | amuller: you mean you merged the delete, or we just spotted it and you respin? | 21:52 |
| amuller | ihrachys_: no I didn't approve my own patch =p | 21:52 |
| ihrachys_ | amuller: ok I wanted to make sure we talk about the patch you asked me to check and not some other patch that maybe is already merged | 21:53 |
| amuller | although approving my own patches is an appealing idea | 21:53 |
| amuller | "reviews", pfft | 21:54 |
| amuller | For April 1st we should give everyone automatic approval rights and disable all CI | 21:54 |
| amuller | see how it goes | 21:54 |
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| jreeves | Openwreck, here we come | 21:54 |
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| * amuller trademarks that name | 21:55 | |
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| jreeves | too late. I said it in here. It's logged for all time | 21:56 |
| sc68cal | amuller: I'll..... book a long vacation between April 1 and the summit | 21:56 |
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| ihrachys_ | sc68cal: you'll loose all the fun | 21:57 |
| sc68cal | ihrachys_: just means more for everyone else :) | 21:57 |
| dims | "openwreck" lol :) | 21:58 |
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| sc68cal | armax: I'm seeing a lot of bugs that Mohammed Ashraf (mohammed-asharaf) takes and assignes himself or herself. | 22:03 |
| sc68cal | then sits on | 22:03 |
| armax | sc68cal: thanks for drawning my attention to this | 22:03 |
| armax | sc68cal: links? I’ll look into it | 22:03 |
| sc68cal | https://launchpad.net/~mohammed-asharaf/+assignedbugs?search=Search&field.status=In%20Progress&orderby=-id&start=0 | 22:03 |
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| sc68cal | been noticing this for a couple months now - now that I have launchpad e-mailing me for everything correctly. | 22:04 |
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| jschwarz | sc68cal, that's a lot of bugs | 22:05 |
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| sc68cal | yes indeed. | 22:05 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: that's a lot of bugs *with no fixes* | 22:05 |
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| sc68cal | If this was kevinbenton doing it, I'd trust him | 22:05 |
| sc68cal | this guy? ehhhhh | 22:05 |
| sc68cal | no commits | 22:06 |
| sc68cal | nothing in stackalytics | 22:06 |
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| jschwarz | have a look at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1517442/comments/3 | 22:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1517442 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "libvirt/xenapi: disk_available_least reported by the driver does not take into account instances being migrated to/from the host" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Mohammed Ashraf (mohammed-asharaf) | 22:06 |
| * sc68cal facepalms | 22:07 | |
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| dims | sc68cal : y, weird! | 22:07 |
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| jschwarz | also, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1549443 has been assigned to him an hour ago | 22:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1549443 in neutron "Port Security does not consistently update nova iptables" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Mohammed Ashraf (mohammed-asharaf) | 22:07 |
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| sc68cal | s/has been assigned/assigned himself/ | 22:07 |
| sc68cal | jschwarz: yeah that was the one where I was like, ok, that's the last straw | 22:08 |
| jschwarz | sc68cal, yep :< | 22:08 |
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| dims | sc68cal : i cleaned up the nova/novaclient ones | 22:09 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal, jschwarz: ouch. that's a good way to blind volunteers to these bugs | 22:09 |
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| kevinbenton | sc68cal: are most of these legitimate too? | 22:09 |
| jschwarz | kevinbenton, yeps. just the other day I was having a sit down with a friend who wants to get into neutron and were looking at the unassigned bugs | 22:09 |
| jschwarz | shame | 22:09 |
| sc68cal | kevinbenton: they appear to be pretty important bugs. | 22:10 |
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| sc68cal | ah, found his stackalytics | 22:11 |
| sc68cal | two e-mails. | 22:11 |
| sc68cal | http://stackalytics.com/?user_id=mohammed-asharaf | 22:11 |
| sc68cal | ever. | 22:11 |
| jschwarz | sc68cal, 2 whole emails?! | 22:12 |
| jschwarz | :O :O | 22:12 |
| sc68cal | well, we know he's at least subscribed to openstack-dev as of the 1st | 22:13 |
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| jschwarz | he opened his account on february 15th, where he assigned some of the bugs to himself | 22:13 |
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| sc68cal | ah, I must be thinking of another account that i've seen assigning themselves bugs, prior. I'll have to go back through and find it | 22:14 |
| sc68cal | because I noticed this behavior a while ago, this is just hte most recent one I guess | 22:15 |
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| * kevinbenton thinks we need an auto script that unassigns a bug after a week of no activity if no patch has been proposed | 22:19 | |
| manjeets | sc68cal: ping | 22:19 |
| sc68cal | kevinbenton: ++ | 22:19 |
| sc68cal | manjeets: pong | 22:19 |
| manjeets | today i freshly clonned neutron repo and when i run tox -e pep8 see this | 22:19 |
| reedip__ | kevinbenton : +1 | 22:19 |
| manjeets | http://paste.openstack.org/show/489249/ | 22:20 |
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| sc68cal | manjeets: hmm - that's an interesting one | 22:21 |
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| kevinbenton | sc68cal, manjeets: ugh. i had run into that locally on a functional test as well | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | but now i can't remember what i had to do to fix it | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | i remember i googled the trace and found something | 22:22 |
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| kevinbenton | it might have been a package that needed to be updated like virtualenv or something | 22:22 |
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| reedip__ | kevinbenton: ping, if you have time, can you include the following patches in your review list? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282184/ , https://review.openstack.org/230321, https://review.openstack.org/263609, https://review.openstack.org/271191 | 22:23 |
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| sc68cal | manjeets: while you're here - I'm going back through bugs that people have assigned themselves that do not have patches in gerrit | 22:24 |
| sc68cal | manjeets: you have quite a few - https://bugs.launchpad.net/~manjeet-s-bhatia/+assignedbugs | 22:24 |
| sc68cal | I see a couple that have been in progress for a while - and you've assigned yourself another bug 6 hours ago | 22:25 |
| openstack | bug 6 in Launchpad itself ""next 10 entries" at bottom of page" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6 - Assigned to Carlos Perelló Marín (carlos) | 22:25 |
| manjeets | sc68cal: ill update it today | 22:26 |
| manjeets | launchpad | 22:26 |
| sc68cal | manjeets: my suggestion would be to unassign yourself from more recent bugs, work on the ones you took months ago | 22:26 |
| manjeets | ok | 22:26 |
| sc68cal | manjeets: and if you are stuck, please let us know, we're here to help | 22:26 |
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| manjeets | some are in progress for reviews | 22:27 |
| manjeets | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1539735 | 22:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1539735 in neutron "DB migrations are not tested with data" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Manjeet Singh Bhatia (manjeet-s-bhatia) | 22:27 |
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| sc68cal | manjeets: ok, you need to add that bug number to your commit message so it links | 22:27 |
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| sc68cal | also - that specific bug was discussed at the QA summit with mtreinish | 22:28 |
| sc68cal | mtreinish is a big fan of having data to test migrations | 22:28 |
| manjeets | ok recent one is updating manuals for cli i added few week ago | 22:28 |
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| manjeets | sc68cal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124946/ | 22:29 |
| manjeets | if you see its close | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | sc68cal: manjeets took over my old patch adding the basic framework: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124946/ | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | but the next step after that lands is to add the data injection and the post migration checks | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | that patch just runs the migrations without any data | 22:29 |
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| manjeets | yea Ann told me | 22:30 |
| manjeets | I am waiting for that to get in and was working on ip capacity thing which is in. | 22:30 |
| sc68cal | gotcha. I'm just playing paper-pusher to make sure all the forms are filled out correctly | 22:30 |
| sc68cal | :) | 22:30 |
| sc68cal | manjeets: what about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1365438 ? | 22:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1365438 in neutron "Add conntrackd support to HA routers in L3 agent" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Manjeet Singh Bhatia (manjeet-s-bhatia) | 22:31 |
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| sc68cal | that one is about 3 months old | 22:32 |
| jschwarz | sc68cal, lol I was assigned to that once | 22:32 |
| jschwarz | a long, long time ago | 22:32 |
| manjeets | i remember there was a bug in contrackd it self was watching over it | 22:33 |
| manjeets | will go over it again tomorrow and will post if i can handle that or i will unassign it tomorrow | 22:33 |
| sc68cal | manjeets: I think you should unassign today. | 22:33 |
| manjeets | or anybody willing to do it from today can assign to him | 22:33 |
| sc68cal | armax: here's another big one. https://bugs.launchpad.net/~gongysh/+assignedbugs | 22:34 |
| manjeets | did that | 22:34 |
| manjeets | sc68cal: | 22:34 |
| manjeets | its yours or someonelse's now | 22:34 |
| jschwarz | sc68cal, jesus christ 26 bugs | 22:34 |
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| sc68cal | let me filter it down a bit | 22:35 |
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| reedip__ | sc68cal : I will check and update all my bugs by today EOD , for the ones on which I have not started working . | 22:36 |
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| sc68cal | reedip__: ok - thanks. It's probably worth doing a ML post at the end of the mitaka cycle | 22:37 |
| armax | sc68cal: ack | 22:37 |
| reedip__ | sc68cal: ok, ack. | 22:37 |
| manjeets | sc68cal: any idea why pep8 issue is happening ? | 22:38 |
| jschwarz | we can probably gather all the open/in progress bugs, sort by name and produce a readable list | 22:38 |
| jschwarz | then it'll be easier to hunt down the guilty ones | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] ovs: Add support for IPv6 addresses as tunnel endpoints https://review.openstack.org/257335 | 22:38 |
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| reedip__ | jschwarz : would also help in noting if patches are stale now ... | 22:38 |
| jschwarz | yeps | 22:39 |
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| jschwarz | sc68cal, reedip__, https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib | 22:40 |
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| reedip__ | jschwarz :naaice :) | 22:41 |
| sc68cal | jschwarz: very cool. | 22:41 |
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| jschwarz | :) | 22:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Manjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Add db migrations test framework with data https://review.openstack.org/124946 | 22:41 |
| sc68cal | I'll poke tomorrow at it and see if I can put together something to find out stale bugs | 22:41 |
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| sc68cal | and stick it in neutron/tools | 22:42 |
| jschwarz | sounds like a treat | 22:42 |
| jschwarz | sc68cal, add me as a reviewer if you do :) | 22:42 |
| manjeets | if gate will be nice data test framework will be good to go https://review.openstack.org/124946 | 22:42 |
| amuller | sc68cal: you can add a test that will post a bug, sleep for 1 year, then assert that the bug exists in the output of the stale bugs tool | 22:42 |
| sc68cal | amuller: lol | 22:42 |
| reedip__ | sc68cal : That would be great | 22:42 |
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| jschwarz | amuller, I guess you never heard of 'sudo date' | 22:43 |
| sc68cal | amuller: how to test - wait 1 year - run again | 22:43 |
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| jschwarz | amuller, otherwise you can reboot into the BIOS and advance the clock | 22:43 |
| amuller | jschwarz: naw man we want to test how real users will use the tool! | 22:43 |
| sc68cal | you guys are great. I'll see you all tomorrow - it's beer o'clock | 22:43 |
| jschwarz | amuller, in one year, real users will use rocks and stones, not silicon keys and a 1080p display screen | 22:44 |
| jschwarz | oi! beer o'clock! can I have some? | 22:44 |
| amuller | sc68cal: enjoy | 22:44 |
| reedip__ | sc68cal : have a great day :) | 22:44 |
| amuller | jschwarz: both rocks and stones? exciting :) | 22:44 |
| manjeets | sc68cal: have nice beer hours or minutes | 22:45 |
| jschwarz | amuller, lol <.< | 22:45 |
| jschwarz | amuller, the stones are made of rocks... or... something... >.> | 22:45 |
| jschwarz | it made sense in my head | 22:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Delete 118~ API tests from Neutron https://review.openstack.org/280427 | 22:49 |
| jschwarz | armax, do you have a few minutes to talk about our Lord and saviour https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1552680 ? | 22:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1552680 in neutron "[RFE] Add support for DLM" [Undecided,New] | 22:50 |
| jschwarz | or shall I reserve this to a few weeks from now? | 22:50 |
| ihrachys_ | amuller: "118~" is weird: it seems detailed and vague at the same time | 22:50 |
| armax | I’ll have a peep later | 22:50 |
| amuller | ihrachys_: detailed yet not commited :) | 22:51 |
| armax | I need to attend somethign else if you don’t mind | 22:51 |
| ihrachys_ | jschwarz: I would put it aside till next drivers meeting | 22:51 |
| jschwarz | armax, okies - have fun all :) | 22:51 |
| armax | jschwarz: and I would like to use you at the best of your abilities | 22:51 |
| armax | being 2am your side of the world | 22:51 |
| amuller | armax: stop using people :( | 22:51 |
| jschwarz | armax, oi, it's 00:51 | 22:51 |
| armax | jschwarz: still | 22:51 |
| jschwarz | so I'm quite awake-ish | 22:51 |
| jschwarz | ;-) | 22:51 |
| armax | jschwarz: I am not ;) | 22:51 |
| amuller | yeah and Red Hat doesn't pay over time :( | 22:52 |
| amuller | jschwarz: sucker | 22:52 |
| armax | I am quite numb actually | 22:52 |
| jschwarz | I'll ping you next week, then | 22:52 |
| jschwarz | amuller, they pay me by the hour | 22:52 |
| * jschwarz looks at the clock | 22:52 | |
| ihrachys_ | jschwarz: do they? | 22:52 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys_, I'm surprised they pay me at all. | 22:52 |
| ihrachys_ | jschwarz: I am not | 22:53 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys_, you're flattering as always | 22:53 |
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| * amuller notes to self: jschwarz does not require pay | 22:53 | |
| jschwarz | ihrachys_, look what you did! :< | 22:53 |
| jschwarz | anyway I'm off to bed | 22:54 |
| jschwarz | I'll see you all next week-ish | 22:54 |
| amuller | jschwarz: tata | 22:54 |
| ihrachys_ | I review Assaf's patch and do the same | 22:54 |
| jschwarz | nn | 22:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add a description field to all standard resources https://review.openstack.org/269887 | 22:56 |
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| * ihrachys -> bed | 22:58 | |
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| anteaya | paging Nikolay Fedotov or Richard Winters | 23:06 |
| anteaya | they are cisco folks and I don't know their irc nicks | 23:06 |
| anteaya | anyone know them? | 23:06 |
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| ijw | I may have met them occasionally | 23:06 |
| anteaya | thanks | 23:06 |
| anteaya | do you know if they are on irc? | 23:06 |
| ijw | Given their timezones I think they're probably offline right now, though | 23:06 |
| anteaya | okay well I was hoping to have a chat and have them disable their ci systems | 23:07 |
| ijw | Rich certainly comes on (richwinters from memory); Nikolay I don't know | 23:07 |
| ijw | Which CI system has gone mental? | 23:07 |
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| anteaya | seems I'm going to have to make a decision about shutting them off | 23:07 |
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| anteaya | they are posting merge failed on patches | 23:07 |
| anteaya | which they can't do | 23:07 |
| anteaya | for 4 ci systems | 23:08 |
| anteaya | it is annoying | 23:08 |
| ijw | Understood. Let me see | 23:08 |
| anteaya | and given it is feature freeze week | 23:08 |
| anteaya | I'm all for helping devs reduce noise for review focus | 23:08 |
| anteaya | ijw: thanks, I'll stand by | 23:08 |
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| anteaya | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287611/ | 23:09 |
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| ijw | I think we're talking Moscow and East Coast for those two but there might be some locals who can help in SJC | 23:09 |
| anteaya | UCSM CI (which isn't listed in the wikipage for third party systems yet) | 23:09 |
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| ijw | OK | 23:09 |
| anteaya | thanks | 23:09 |
| anteaya | N1kv CI | 23:09 |
| anteaya | Tail-f CI | 23:09 |
| anteaya | and ml2 CI | 23:09 |
| anteaya | they just have to stop posting merge failed | 23:09 |
| anteaya | thanks | 23:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Add API attribute to support ip unicast address list. https://review.openstack.org/285986 | 23:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron-lib: WIP - Add minimal db and context stuff https://review.openstack.org/267214 | 23:44 |
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| anteaya | ijw: any luck? | 23:50 |
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| anteaya | I see you have gone offline | 23:59 |
| anteaya | this makes me sad | 23:59 |
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