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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Continue the fwaas decoupling and cleanup https://review.openstack.org/288279 | 00:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | armax: ^ | 00:45 |
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| armax | tidwellr: ping | 00:53 |
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| carl_baldwin | armax: ^ | 00:55 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: ack | 00:55 |
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| carl_baldwin | armax: "may the gate be with you" lol | 00:56 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: reviewed the patch, nothing important, I'm off | 01:17 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: great job with these patches! | 01:18 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: thx | 01:22 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: i will address the other with a follow-up | 01:22 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: k | 01:22 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: requires some refactor, but the same approach can be used | 01:23 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: how do we get out of these loops | 01:23 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: it's a lot of complexity for code at that level | 01:23 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: usually a return statement or an exception ;) | 01:23 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: hehe | 01:23 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: just seems like we're doing something very wrong | 01:24 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: did you see jschwarz's RFE about tooz? locking on a router_id for router operations | 01:24 |
| amuller | I don't have a strong opinion yet | 01:24 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: that's possible. the issue we've always had is convincing operators to accept the backend required | 01:25 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: ignoring that, do you have thoughts on the validity of the idea? | 01:25 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: yeah, in this particular case a distributed lock should be a fine solution | 01:26 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: ok | 01:26 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: John told me they use tooz in ceilometer | 01:26 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: I didn't look in to this seriously | 01:26 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: the details are always in how tooz deals with things like a server losing its connection to the backend | 01:26 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: the tooz backend* | 01:26 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: does that release the lock? | 01:26 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: and that kinda crap | 01:27 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: we just have to evaluate it | 01:27 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: once we have it we will probably use it all over the place | 01:27 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: hmm, aren't those problems solved for apps that use a DLM? | 01:27 |
| amuller | I mean there must be best practices that are well known | 01:27 |
| amuller | we aren't inventing anything | 01:27 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: right, but its not quite as simple as the @lockutils type decorator | 01:28 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: because the lock is held remotely | 01:28 |
| amuller | I understand that | 01:28 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: each system usually has a tradeoff that we need to evaluate | 01:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-lib: Fix 'import neutron' hacking check https://review.openstack.org/287021 | 01:28 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: probably if a project such a neutron pushes for tooz adoption, that will push adoption =p | 01:29 |
| amuller | such as* | 01:29 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: we also need to be careful we don't get too excited with lock all the things and turn all of the servers into a big serialization process :) | 01:30 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: that was my concern | 01:30 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: "When is locking too much? Top ten reasons not to use a DLM, you wouldn't believe number 7!" | 01:31 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: right | 01:31 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: i think as long as they are object-level locks we should be okay | 01:31 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: like locking UUIDs | 01:31 |
| amuller | right | 01:31 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: not entire types of resources | 01:31 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: but even then, we need to verify how expensive lock acquisistion is in tooz | 01:32 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: judging by oslo messaging, greater than it needs to be? =p | 01:33 |
| amuller | sorry, cheap shot | 01:33 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: :) | 01:33 |
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| dims | ouch :) | 01:34 |
| dims | amuller : always willing to consider fixes/enhancements. we know we don't have all the answers for sure | 01:35 |
| amuller | dims: I really do apologize lol | 01:36 |
| dims | amuller : no worries, we know where we suck too :) | 01:36 |
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| armax | carl_baldwin kevinbenton tidwellr ^ | 01:37 |
| armax | let’s see if I got it right | 01:37 |
| amuller | dims: I was just going off out dated information I got from someone else, don't take me seriously | 01:37 |
| dims | amuller : no worries. feedback good or bad is always good | 01:38 |
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| tidwellr | armax: you still around? | 02:07 |
| armax | yes | 02:07 |
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| tidwellr | sorry, technically on vacation and haven't been super responsive today | 02:08 |
| tidwellr | what was the concern with the lock fixtures? | 02:08 |
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| armax | they are evil | 02:09 |
| armax | as the recent grief demonstrates | 02:09 |
| tidwellr | yes, the trouble is using that shared external network across tests | 02:09 |
| armax | no | 02:09 |
| armax | we could work around the external network issue | 02:10 |
| armax | that would solve the lack of isolation | 02:10 |
| tidwellr | enlighten me | 02:10 |
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| armax | but you’re off! | 02:11 |
| tidwellr | well, I want to get this solved :) | 02:11 |
| armax | and my week has been veeery long | 02:11 |
| tidwellr | ok, if you're done I'm done | 02:11 |
| armax | I am gonna take a raincheck if you don’t mind :) | 02:11 |
| armax | that’s the spirit! | 02:11 |
| tidwellr | no worries, I just want to make problems disappear | 02:12 |
| armax | so do I | 02:12 |
| tidwellr | well, it can wait til Monday I suppose | 02:12 |
| armax | for now the tests are skipped | 02:12 |
| armax | so I suppose it can, but that’s a bit of a setback | 02:13 |
| armax | for bgp | 02:13 |
| tidwellr | I know :( | 02:13 |
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| armax | focus on docs | 02:13 |
| armax | don’t forget | 02:13 |
| armax | there’s only a handle of days left | 02:13 |
| tidwellr | nope, won't forget | 02:13 |
| tidwellr | the last 2 patches need care and feeding as well, I'm on it though | 02:14 |
| tidwellr | willing to take on issues this weekend | 02:14 |
| tidwellr | anyway, enjoy yours! | 02:14 |
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| armax | I will | 02:14 |
| armax | I recall 3 | 02:15 |
| armax | no? | 02:15 |
| tidwellr | the third is not strictly necessary | 02:15 |
| tidwellr | it's a nice-to-have | 02:15 |
| armax | ok | 02:15 |
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| armax | was it clear from the commit? | 02:15 |
| armax | I don’t remember | 02:15 |
| tidwellr | no, I didn't propose the patch but I will update the commit message | 02:16 |
| tidwellr | there's only 2 more we have to merge for completeness | 02:16 |
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| idonotknow_ | Hi,everyone. I am facing a problem that my loadbalancer is always on pending_create status,and o-cw shows some error messages like computetimeoutexception,anyone knows why? | 03:55 |
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| idonotknow_ | I am using the latest code pulled from github | 03:56 |
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| haukebruno | idonotknow_, did you turned on debug + verbose in lbaas log? | 03:59 |
| haukebruno | idonotknow_, that could be helpful for debugging | 03:59 |
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| idonotknow_ | haukebruno,I have turned them on | 04:03 |
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| haukebruno | idonotknow_, then you should see something in the logs, even if the severity isn't WARNING or ERROR | 04:03 |
| idonotknow_ | haukebruno,I guess the main problem is the amphora can not start successfully, o-cw shows error like compute wait time out. but I did not find the solution | 04:05 |
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| haukebruno | idonotknow_, I don't know for octavia, but maybe stracing the whole processchain would point things out if the logs are helpless | 04:08 |
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