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| vikram_ | amotoki: ping | 06:34 |
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| vikram_ | amotoki: about "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268726/", i was thinking od neutron-draas? | 06:35 |
| vikram_ | *of | 06:35 |
| amotoki | vikram_: pong | 06:35 |
| vikram_ | amotoki: dynamic-routing looks big | 06:35 |
| vikram_ | amotoki: neutron-dynamic-routing looks big | 06:35 |
| amotoki | vikram_: i am not sure 'dr' is a clear name for folks who are not familiar with neutron.... | 06:35 |
| vikram_ | amotoki: ok, let's collect some more feedback then | 06:36 |
| amotoki | vikram_: I asked my colleagues involved in openstack cloud integration and they answered | 06:36 |
| amotoki | neutron supports DR? | 06:36 |
| vikram_ | i understand | 06:37 |
| amotoki | DR in their mind is disater recovery | 06:37 |
| vikram_ | ok | 06:37 |
| vikram_ | How about *aaS | 06:37 |
| vikram_ | for this repo... like VPN and FW? | 06:37 |
| amotoki | I think 'aaS' solves nothing. | 06:38 |
| amotoki | 'aaS' just means normal users can provision their own resources or somthing | 06:38 |
| vikram_ | I was thinking we are trying to provide a routing service | 06:38 |
| amotoki | I think we are provide dynacmic routing service on top of neutron router | 06:39 |
| vikram_ | ok | 06:43 |
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| prapulla | how many routers can be created in each tenant to external network? any limitation to create router in openstack neutron environment | 07:11 |
| prapulla | we are using openstack kilo version | 07:13 |
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| reedip | amotoki, vikram : cant we use networking-dynamic-routing ( I am just thinking of a way to avoid neutron at the initial level itself, if we are to change the name later on) | 08:12 |
| amotoki | reedip: why not discuss in the review? | 08:13 |
| reedip | amotoki: I already mentioned it but got no feedback(yet) | 08:14 |
| reedip | :) | 08:14 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, Hi John | 08:25 |
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| hkominos | Hi guys. Quick question. Is there some sort of mechanism which "cleans up" network interfaces in neutron? | 08:31 |
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| amotoki | hkominos: what kind of clean up do you expect? cleanup of ovs-interface? | 08:32 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, heya | 08:32 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, I saw your question - will answer shortly | 08:32 |
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| hkominos | Let me explain. I have 2 compute nodes and has nova-docker. When i ssh to the host with novadocker i see a couple of network interfaces (tap,qbr etc) which are not connected to anything. I mean that they were not destroyed when the containers failed to boot | 08:37 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, ok | 08:37 |
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| hkominos | So i Was wondering if there is a process which periodically cleans the Hosts from these unused interfaces + unplugs them from ovs-bridges. | 08:38 |
| hkominos | cause i see them now with tag 4095 | 08:38 |
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| amotoki | hkominos: actually nova vif driver is responsible to manage qbr. I think there is a case where vif-driver is not cleanup properly | 08:40 |
| amotoki | hkominos: i see the same situation. | 08:40 |
| hkominos | So is it just a bug ? | 08:41 |
| hkominos | because i have a theory as to why it did not cleanup | 08:41 |
| amotoki | hkominos: I think so. | 08:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Update ml2 delete_subnet to deallocate via ipam https://review.openstack.org/300984 | 09:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Ha Van Tu proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Fix "Not applying Firewall rules immediately" problem https://review.openstack.org/300960 | 09:15 |
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| slaweq | ajo_: ihrachys: hello | 09:37 |
| slaweq | can You maybe take a look on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300210 and maybe also on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300679/ | 09:38 |
| slaweq | thx in advance :) | 09:38 |
| ajo_ | slaweq, ack, doing, I failed to deploy LB for some reason | 09:39 |
| slaweq | ajo_: thx a lot | 09:41 |
| slaweq | I will wait for Your comments | 09:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Cleaned up tox_install.sh https://review.openstack.org/300994 | 09:44 |
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| sakthi_chn | hi, | 09:47 |
| ajo_ | slaweq, : a bit of nitpick here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300679/3 <-- garyk | 09:47 |
| ajo_ | garyk: may be the logging I ask for not that valuable. Thoughts? | 09:47 |
| ajo_ | other than that It looks good to me. | 09:47 |
| sakthi_chn | In my lab network has been fluctuate frequently, I didn't get any errors in log can anyone suggest what is the main problem | 09:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: New engine facade from oslo_db https://review.openstack.org/300017 | 09:49 |
| sakthi_chn | Creating more routers causes any problem, or using more vlan creates any problem | 09:49 |
| slaweq | ajo_: ok, I can add some debug logging msg there if You think it will be usefull | 09:49 |
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| slaweq | ajo_: about debug log in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300679/ do You think it should be good idea to add debug message in both cases: bw_limit_update and bw_limit_delete? | 10:37 |
| slaweq | or only for update? | 10:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: De-dup user-defined SG rules before iptables call https://review.openstack.org/301029 | 10:49 |
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| jschwarz | kevinbenton, yo | 11:00 |
| jschwarz | kevinbenton, could you have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257059/30/neutron/db/l3_agentschedulers_db.py ? we're waiting for your opinion on the matter | 11:00 |
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| jschwarz | akamyshnikova, thanks for the response to amuller in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284400/ :) | 11:17 |
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| akamyshnikova | jschwarz, np :) | 11:19 |
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| garyk | ajo_: yes, the logging request is a good idea | 11:24 |
| slaweq | garyk: ok, I will add it for both cases (update and delete) | 11:27 |
| garyk | thanks! | 11:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/neutron: Improve handle port_update and port_delete events in ovs qos agent https://review.openstack.org/300679 | 11:29 |
| slaweq | garyk: done :) | 11:29 |
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| garyk | thanks. | 11:32 |
| anilvenkata_afk | jschwarz, here js+tab is giving your name :) | 11:38 |
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| amotoki | slaweq: some suggestion on logging message in your review. | 11:39 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284400/11/neutron/scheduler/l3_agent_scheduler.py current code has a problem, I gave a comment | 11:40 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, aye I saw | 11:41 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, do u agree | 11:41 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, multitasking a bit and it's not working :< | 11:41 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, mean u tries with what I suggested and still see issue? | 11:42 |
| anilvenkata | tried | 11:42 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, means I read the comments but still didn't have time to think about them in depth because I'm failing at multiplexing my attention today for some reason | 11:42 |
| jschwarz | :< | 11:42 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, :) | 11:43 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, also I saw that the changes at line 166 aren't really needed I think | 11:43 |
| slaweq | amotoki: thx | 11:43 |
| slaweq | I will push fix in few minutes | 11:43 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, so I'm also thinking about that | 11:43 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, anyway which comment did you mean? the one in line 328 or 342? | 11:44 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284400/11/neutron/scheduler/l3_agent_scheduler.py L328 | 11:44 |
| korzen | hi ihrachys do we have upgrade meeting today at 5pm? | 11:44 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, L342 can be taken up later | 11:44 |
| ihrachys | korzen: yeah. bloody summer time switch moved all upstream meetings +1h | 11:44 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, ok let me open up the code | 11:45 |
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| korzen | ihrachys, ok thx I was making sure that the meeting was not scheduled at CET time and stayed at 4pm :) | 11:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: linux_bridge: convert over to use privsep module https://review.openstack.org/287725 | 11:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: ovs: convert over to use privsep module https://review.openstack.org/299406 | 11:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: ovs: move code from plugin into linux_net helper https://review.openstack.org/299405 | 11:45 |
| ihrachys | korzen: it's all UTC | 11:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/neutron: Improve handle port_update and port_delete events in ovs qos agent https://review.openstack.org/300679 | 11:46 |
| slaweq | amotoki: pushed fix for log message | 11:46 |
| amotoki | slaweq: thanks | 11:47 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284400/11/neutron/scheduler/l3_agent_scheduler.py update with code sample | 11:50 |
| anilvenkata | updated | 11:50 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, so I'm looking at this now | 11:50 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, I'm not clear what you want me to change | 11:50 |
| * jschwarz is looking | 11:50 | |
| ajo_ | garyk++ thanks | 11:50 |
| Murali | hello everybody | 11:52 |
| Murali | Could some one help me to come out of this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/15611079/ | 11:52 |
| Murali | its part of writing our own agent like ovs-agent | 11:53 |
| Murali | any help is appriciated | 11:53 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, so I'm not sure create_object_with_dependency is the proper use case here | 11:53 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, code after create_object_with_dependency is prone to race | 11:55 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, how so? | 11:55 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, anyway bind_router's return value has nothing to do with the 'port_binding.l3_agent_id=agent.id' that comes after | 11:56 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, so using create_object_with_dependency won't work without making some modifications to it (which I'd like to avoid, of course) | 11:56 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, for example if rpc worker called created a new port through create_object_with_dependency and then bound the port to agent through "port_binding.l3_agent_id = agent['id']" then if api worker's concurrently L336 | 11:56 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, api worker's L336 will be success, but L342 will fail | 11:57 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, I'm afraid I don't fully understand your example | 11:58 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, cna you clarify? | 11:58 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, ok I will update as a comment in the patch | 11:59 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, we can do it here also :) | 11:59 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, I am saying if rpc worker and api worker are executing in parallel for a router | 12:01 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, ok | 12:01 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, first rpc worker executed till https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284400/11/neutron/scheduler/l3_agent_scheduler.py L287 | 12:02 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, ah I now see what you mean | 12:03 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, then api worker executed till L337 | 12:03 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, for api worker L342 will fail | 12:04 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, at the same time for rpc worker L296 will fail | 12:04 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, heh I didn't even notice they were backwards until now | 12:05 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, so both workers can't able to bind properly in both RouterL3AgentBinding and L3HARouterAgentPortBinding tables | 12:05 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, :) | 12:05 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, the rpc worker shouldn't fail at line 296 | 12:05 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, why already router is bind in L336 | 12:06 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, well actually if the API worker throws an exception then the router is deleted and the rpc worker will fail | 12:06 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, rpc will get a duplicate entry db error | 12:06 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, the transaction will be rolled back and bind_router will be reverted | 12:06 |
| jschwarz | no? | 12:06 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, trying to follow | 12:07 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, grabbing myself some water, brb | 12:08 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, which rollback for rpc worker | 12:08 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, enjoy :) | 12:08 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, if line 372 fails, the whole transaction (including bind_router) is rolled back | 12:09 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, L372 from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284400/11/neutron/scheduler/l3_agent_scheduler.py? | 12:10 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, 342, sorry | 12:10 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, so the api worker goes to line 342 and it raises an exception (because the rpc worker was at line 287) | 12:11 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, this means that the transaction is rolled back and the router is deleted | 12:11 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, this will cause the rpc worker to run line 296 and fail (because the router doesn't exist anymore) | 12:12 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, in short, because of the race everything is reverted, so no problems ;-) | 12:12 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, "router deleted" means | 12:14 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, and none of the worker succesfully bound the router because of race right? | 12:15 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, it means that the Router db object was deleted (because the API worker that created it raised an exception) | 12:16 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, and yes | 12:16 |
| jschwarz | so no problems here :) | 12:16 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, but we want one of the worker should sucessfully bind and the other should see duplicate entry and ignore his binding | 12:17 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, that is the ultimate goal, yes | 12:17 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, but it's not something this patch means to achieve | 12:17 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, this is what the huge auto_schedule_routers wants to do | 12:18 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285480/ | 12:18 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, if we follow the same order in binding, the second one will see duplicate entry right? | 12:18 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, yes, and it will throw an exception | 12:19 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, which is fine because we want it to revert anyway | 12:19 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, (create_ha_port_and_bind() just created one too many port bindings objects - we need to delete it) | 12:20 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, yes, revert his(second guys) change | 12:20 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, so why can't we follow the "same order" as we discussed here in the patch? | 12:21 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, we could | 12:21 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, but since the "reverse order" doesn't hurt us, I must ask what's the benefit of doing this switch vs what the risks are | 12:22 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, the benefit is that the code will be more consistent, but the risks are that this small change will introduce more race conditions | 12:22 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, in the "reverse order" both workers will fail to bind, if "same order" one worker will succeed and other will see duplicate entry and ignore trying the binding | 12:23 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, we can avoid race by forcing synchroniation | 12:24 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, that's not completely accurate - if the API worker fails, it will remove the router and will cause the RPC worker to also fail | 12:24 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, so it only fixes 50% of the cases | 12:25 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, in this sense 100% failure rate might be better than 50% failure rate | 12:25 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, "if the API worker fails, it will remove the router and will cause the RPC worker to also fail" this is with "same order"? | 12:26 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, this is with both orders | 12:26 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, where is it removing(which line)? removing from what(which table)? | 12:27 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, if line 342 raises a DBDuplicateEntry, such an error will propagate upwards all the way to create_router | 12:28 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, this will at the end remove the actual Router() DB object that was originally created and return a 500 HTTP error to the user | 12:28 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, then if we follow "same order", if rpc worker succesfully binds, for api worker we won't his L342, right? | 12:31 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, L337 will take u to next router and no HTTP 500 error | 12:32 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, api worker won't hit L342 if rpc worker succesfully binds, right? | 12:33 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, why we need to delete the router we can handle the race | 12:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sayali Lunkad proposed openstack/neutron: Introduces ovo objects for security groups https://review.openstack.org/284738 | 12:37 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, sorry, back | 12:38 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, if the rpc worker successfully binds, the api worker WILL fail in line 342 (DBDuplicateEntry) | 12:40 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, this will cause create_router() to fail for the API worker | 12:40 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, and this will return 500 HTTP to the client | 12:40 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, no it won't fail in L342 | 12:41 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, because of L336 and L337(if "same order") | 12:42 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, if rpc worker binds, L337 will hit for api worker | 12:42 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, ahhh lol | 12:43 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, when you said "same order" i was thinking of putting the "port_binding.l3_agent_id" stuff after bind_router | 12:44 |
| jschwarz | ie. change the way create_ha_port_and... works | 12:44 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, yes | 12:44 |
| jschwarz | erm. | 12:44 |
| jschwarz | ok so lets say this is the case | 12:44 |
| amotoki | ajo_: one question on qos dscp spec. can operators choose which qos feature is enabled or not? | 12:45 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, yes so in this case it indeed won't throw an error | 12:45 |
| jschwarz | so both will work | 12:45 |
| ajo_ | amotoki, no, it's bound to the plugin they use | 12:45 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, yes | 12:45 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, my head hurts now | 12:45 |
| jschwarz | :< | 12:45 |
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| ajo_ | amotoki, they can enable or not qos, and then they will get whatever the plugin provides, but it's all admin-only by default | 12:45 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, looks like I have eaten up your brain :) sorry | 12:45 |
| ajo_ | amotoki, it could be an RFE (filtering the available rules) | 12:46 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, no apologies needed | 12:46 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, ok but still | 12:46 |
| amotoki | ajo_: thanks. it hit me now, but I am not sure there is such need actually. | 12:46 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, in the "reverse order" this will still act the same | 12:47 |
| jschwarz | no? | 12:47 |
| jschwarz | ah no because they will conflict | 12:47 |
| jschwarz | yes so this needs to be changed. | 12:47 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, my comment makes sense? | 12:48 |
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| jschwarz | anilvenkata, it does now, after we've discussed this in length | 12:49 |
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| anilvenkata | jschwarz, :) | 12:49 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, could you please try to describe the same scenario as we've discussed here in the review page? | 12:49 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, sure | 12:49 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, once you do I'll upload a new patchset that fixes this | 12:49 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, nice catch, btw :) | 12:49 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, thanks John | 12:49 |
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| al_indigo | Hello! I want to make one simple thing. I have Liberty cloud, networking is based on Neutron, 6 projects and 2 external networks. I want two projects to be able to allocate floating IPs only from the first external network, and the rest four projects - from the second. | 13:39 |
| al_indigo | I have tried RBAC to provide access for external networks for separate projects so they are hidden in "Networks" tab for the correct projects. | 13:40 |
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| al_indigo | Nethertheless each user in each project still can allocate IPs from any of two external nets. How can I do it correctly? | 13:41 |
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| al_indigo | (one external network is really external Internet, and the second is internal network and I do not want to intersect them in any way) | 13:41 |
| al_indigo | Anyone? | 13:42 |
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| slaweq | ajo_: amotoki: should I do something more with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300679/ | 13:52 |
| slaweq | or it will be now merged automatically if gate tests will pass? | 13:52 |
| ajo_ | slaweq, once tests pass | 13:52 |
| slaweq | ok, thx | 13:52 |
| slaweq | I thought that but I don't see it in queue on http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 13:53 |
| slaweq | and that's why I'm asking :) | 13:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Howard proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for ML2/OVS QoS support with dscp markings https://review.openstack.org/190285 | 13:59 |
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| slaweq | ajo_: do You think I could try to work on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560961 maybe? | 14:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560961 in neutron "[RFE] Allow instance-ingress bandwidth limiting" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 14:20 |
| slaweq | it is not assigned to anyone for now | 14:20 |
| ajo_ | slaweq, hdaniel contacted me today about it | 14:20 |
| slaweq | ah, ok | 14:21 |
| ajo_ | hdaniel, but may be you can both coordinate | 14:21 |
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| hdaniel | slaweq: hi, I missed the context here | 14:21 |
| ajo_ | it will need LB & OVS implementation, in fact I owe him a link to the old OVS implementation by gsagie which just did ingress :) | 14:21 |
| slaweq | I thought about it | 14:21 |
| amotoki | slaweq: I think it is a good idea to show your interest in that bug :) | 14:21 |
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| slaweq | in fact I made ingress limit by mistake for linuxbrige agent :) | 14:22 |
| slaweq | so I have some "experience" in that :P | 14:22 |
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| slaweq | hdaniel: so If You will work on that and want some help, just tell me | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Eyal proposed openstack/neutron: Simplify chained comparison https://review.openstack.org/301156 | 14:24 |
| slaweq | I would like to do help on that if it would be possible | 14:24 |
| hdaniel | slaweq: I see. if you have something going on there - I don't mind moving aside | 14:24 |
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| slaweq | ajo_: amotoki: so I talked with hdaniel and I will take it now | 14:29 |
| hdaniel | ajo_: ^ | 14:29 |
| slaweq | and hdaniel will help me on it | 14:29 |
| ajo_ | slaweq++ , hdaniel++ | 14:29 |
| ajo_ | sounds like a plan, but slaweq I believe that still requires drivers approval | 14:29 |
| slaweq | I was thinking about implement first ovs and lb agents | 14:30 |
| slaweq | with tc in both cases | 14:30 |
| ajo_ | slaweq, I'm not sure SR-IOV can handle VM-ingres | 14:31 |
| slaweq | it should be quite easy to do | 14:31 |
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| slaweq | about SR-IOV I don't know too | 14:31 |
| ajo_ | moshele, ^ ? | 14:31 |
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| slaweq | but IMHO for start work those two agents would be fine, no? | 14:32 |
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| ajo_ | slaweq, yes: plus API, objects and DB models | 14:32 |
| ajo_ | slaweq, you may need to add a direction to the bw limit rule :) | 14:33 |
| moshele | ajo_: sorry, what is the question? | 14:33 |
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| ajo_ | moshele, if SR-IOV can handle ingress bandwidth limit | 14:33 |
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| slaweq | ajo_: yep | 14:33 |
| slaweq | I will do it | 14:33 |
| moshele | ajo_: we can to ip link ... --min-rate on the vf (but I have test it) | 14:34 |
| moshele | ajo_: I mean haven't test it | 14:34 |
| ajo_ | slaweq, refer to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211520/ for OVS | 14:35 |
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| ajo_ | :-) | 14:35 |
| ajo_ | slaweq, and add gsagie as co-author, it was his original job | 14:35 |
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| ajo_ | moshele, I don't mean min/max, I mean ingress/egress | 14:35 |
| ajo_ | moshele, I know currently max handles egress, but I guess not ingress, right? | 14:36 |
| slaweq | ajo_: ok, thx | 14:36 |
| ajo_ | once the packet is there, they don't drop it | 14:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | ingress limiting is sort of a farse | 14:36 |
| moshele | ajo_: right I need to check this with the driver team | 14:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it pretty much needs to be implemented as egress filtering somewhere else to be effective | 14:36 |
| ajo_ | moshele, ack, it only makes sense for TCP or flow controlled protocols, since UDP for example will not care if you start dropping the ingress packets above max... | 14:37 |
| ajo_ | well, the application will certainly notice it.. | 14:37 |
| ajo_ | but not the sender | 14:37 |
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| ajo_ | Sam-I-Am, not totally a farse :) | 14:37 |
| ajo_ | Sam-I-Am, it works for TCP | 14:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, but not everything | 14:38 |
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| ajo_ | Sam-I-Am, but of course, for other protocols, we may need ECN, or out of band communication to the network infrastructure, or other nodes | 14:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | and it might be easier to dink with window sizes than typical limiting functions | 14:38 |
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| ajo_ | to tell the other end... throttle down... | 14:38 |
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| ihrachys | upgrades meeting in #openstack-meeting-alt in 1 min :) | 15:00 |
| rossella_s | yeah | 15:00 |
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| dasm | o/ | 15:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: Fix a race with auto_schedule of HA routers https://review.openstack.org/284400 | 15:11 |
| openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: Add ALLOCATING state to routers https://review.openstack.org/257059 | 15:11 |
| openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: Remove auto_schedule_routers codepath https://review.openstack.org/285480 | 15:11 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys, korzen, rossella_s: Hey. Just sorting out merge conflicts on some patches. One one after merging, I am getting error in: neutron.tests.unit.objects.test_subnetpool.SubnetPoolPrefixDbObjectTestCase.test_update_no_field_to_update_no_field_update | 15:32 |
| mhickey | Have you seen an issue lately/ | 15:32 |
| mhickey | ? | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: well, you probably broke some test with it | 15:33 |
| mhickey | ihrachys: I figure! | 15:33 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: let me dig a bit more; just wondering if it was something already known | 15:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darek Smigiel proposed openstack/neutron: API tests: Check extensions with proper functions https://review.openstack.org/297890 | 15:42 |
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| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: before the upgrades meeting I was trying to implement bgp. | 15:44 |
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| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: I had some progress but it's failing with "neutron.objects.base.NeutronSyntheticFieldMultipleForeignKeys: Synthetic field peers shouldn't have more than one foreign key" | 15:45 |
| dasm | electrocucaracha: BGP? "Big Giant Pencil"? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091217.html | 15:45 |
| dasm | ;) | 15:45 |
| electrocucaracha | dasm: hahaha that one | 15:45 |
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| electrocucaracha | should I submit the change as it is? only for future references? | 15:47 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: ^^ | 15:47 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: you can if it's worth reusing :) | 15:56 |
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| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: hahaha good point | 15:57 |
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| electrocucaracha | what I have found valuable is that this is raising neutron.objects.base.NeutronSyntheticFieldMultipleForeignKeys, not sure if we have to adapt the current implementation | 15:58 |
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| ajo_ | ihrachys, : http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2-ext.html#updateLoadBalancerv2 | 16:06 |
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| ajo_ | you can see the vip from that api, but you have no control | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | ajo_: yes, because that's port fixed IP | 16:07 |
| ajo_ | yes | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | ajo_: you can't easily grab the port and move to another load balancer | 16:07 |
| ajo_ | ihrachys, if you see how octavia does that | 16:07 |
| ajo_ | ihrachys, you will see it creates a port (not used) | 16:07 |
| ajo_ | and then it grabs the ip address of that port, and adds it to allowed address pairs of the amphora (s?) | 16:07 |
| ajo_ | brb | 16:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Change get_root_helper_child_pid to stop when it finds cmd https://review.openstack.org/294798 | 16:15 |
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| amuller | amotoki: ihrachys: ^ | 16:17 |
| jlibosva | amuller: have you read my latest general comment? thoughts? | 16:18 |
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| sakthi | hi | 16:22 |
| amuller | jlibosva: by 'changing how processes are stopped' you mean that we check their cmdline? | 16:23 |
| sakthi | required help in nw architecture | 16:23 |
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| sakthi | In my lab I have two separate network, initially both are working fine, now one of the network keep on fluctuating continuously. but I didnt get any error log in any neutron-server as well as l3 agent | 16:25 |
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| jlibosva | amuller: no, I mean the former behavior was to stop the 'childest' process. At the bottom of process tree. We need to make sure we don't rely on this behavior (eg. in IPmonitor or ovsdbmonitor) | 16:28 |
| jlibosva | amuller: which brings us to the question whether we will need to define, who will be killed on stop() | 16:28 |
| sakthi | please clarify the following: 1) creating more virtual routers raising any problem 2) Using more VLAN tags creating any problem | 16:28 |
| jlibosva | amuller: like in systemd | 16:28 |
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| yottatsa | Hi! Is there any working VLAN trunking for OpenStack Neutron? https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/kilo/nfv-vlan-trunks.html | 16:29 |
| amotoki | jlibosva: according to the docstirng of get_root_helper_child_pid, the original code does not assume a process invoked by rootwrap has more child(ren). | 16:30 |
| amotoki | jlibosva: my current understanding is that the proposed change is to find a direct child invoked by rootwrap. is it correct? | 16:31 |
| jlibosva | amotoki: who reads docstrings when writing code :) I'm just saying we can fix fullstack with it but break some other part | 16:31 |
| jlibosva | amotoki: yes, that's correct | 16:31 |
| jlibosva | amotoki: and I think it was meant like this from beginning | 16:31 |
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| amuller | yottatsa: not at this time | 16:32 |
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| amuller | yottatsa: oh sorry I read the wrong spec | 16:32 |
| amotoki | jlibosva: agree. it was the intention but was actually not in the code. | 16:32 |
| amuller | yottatsa: yeah it should work with linux bridge agent | 16:32 |
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| yottatsa | amuller what about ovs? | 16:32 |
| amuller | yottatsa: that doesn't work | 16:33 |
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| yottatsa | amuller thnx! | 16:33 |
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| amotoki | jlibosva: i am not sure we need termination mode. it is worth checked if someone relies on the previous behavior as you mentioned. | 16:36 |
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| amuller | jlibosva: functional tests and the tempest scenario tests use the OVS agent with the ovsdb monitor | 16:38 |
| amuller | jlibosva: and the L3 HA functional tests use the ip monitor | 16:38 |
| amuller | jlibosva: tests passed | 16:38 |
| amuller | jlibosva: that's good enough for me | 16:38 |
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| thorst | Hi all. Can the SR-IOV agent reside on the same compute node as a Linux Bridge/OVS agent? To allow some workloads to have access to SR-IOV, but others get the standard networking. | 16:39 |
| thorst | I didn't see that in the networking guide and was wondering if that is possible. | 16:40 |
| yottatsa | thorst yep | 16:40 |
| thorst | yottatsa: Awesome. TIL. Thx! | 16:40 |
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| yottatsa | thorst the only thing you should check: interface you're using for SR-IOV should not be used for vlan-segmentated OVS/LB | 16:41 |
| thorst | yottatsa: why is that? | 16:41 |
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| thorst | o...nevermind | 16:41 |
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| thorst | that makes sense | 16:42 |
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| yottatsa | If you enable SR-IOV on NIC, internal switch on it will prohibit using unrequested VLAN tags on PF, so your OVS didn't get any VLAN traffic on PF (though I'm not sure about LB) | 16:43 |
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| yottatsa | easy speaking, PF will be access, not trunk | 16:44 |
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| thorst | yottatsa: yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Thx! | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: vif_plug_ovs: merge both plugins into one https://review.openstack.org/301243 | 16:58 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: do you have an ETA for std attr decorator patch? | 17:00 |
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| jlibosva | amuller: not sure I'm glad you're fine with tempest passing considering it's enough :D I don't think we test whether processes are cleaned up properly in functional tests | 17:03 |
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| jlibosva | amuller: but that was just a thought I wanted to expand | 17:04 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: I'll try to hurry. Let's say it will be the first thing I do tomorrow. I can show you what I have now and you tell me whether it's fine so I continue with accomodating UTs | 17:04 |
| amuller | jlibosva: test_ip_monitor_lifecycle | 17:05 |
| jlibosva | I'm afraid it could be less readable | 17:05 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: now? | 17:05 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: if you're still next to me then why not :) | 17:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Improve handle port_update and port_delete events in ovs qos agent https://review.openstack.org/300679 | 17:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | lokesh s proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: log SHA1 hash of X-Auth-Token value https://review.openstack.org/298637 | 17:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Nate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron: QoS DSCP use mod_flow instead of mod_flows https://review.openstack.org/300635 | 17:24 |
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| jlibosva | amuller_afk: that's exactly what I meant. If ip monitor spawns child processes, we don't check they are left orphaned | 17:25 |
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| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Ping | 17:26 |
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| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: pong | 17:26 |
| * carl_baldwin mobile atm | 17:27 | |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Hey Carl, looks like I rubbed you the wrong way with my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288774 last week. Apologies if it came off that way. The part you say should be clear was not clear to me, so I though that was a legitimate question. Anyway, wanted to clear the air. | 17:29 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: no worries, sorry for my reply. | 17:29 |
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| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: No worries :) I assume you were having a bad day! | 17:30 |
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| carl_baldwin | Last week was a long week | 17:30 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Last month was a long month! | 17:31 |
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| SauloAislan | Hello, I want to save external information in neutron-network body. I would put in description field, but network doesn't have. Any suggestions? | 17:40 |
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| haleyb | SauloAislan: networks have a description field starting in Mitaka | 17:53 |
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| SauloAislan | Thanks haleyb | 17:56 |
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| SauloAislan | Hello haleyb, neutron-network body has another field (tags). Can i use this field? My problem is to save an external network id in neutron-network body. | 18:13 |
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| haleyb | SauloAislan: tags is meant for something else, I don't have the spec handy at the moment | 18:14 |
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| SauloAislan | Ok haleyb, i will use description. Thanks. | 18:17 |
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| anilvenkata | kevinbenton, Can you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255237/ ? | 18:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ritesh Anand proposed openstack/neutron: Add IPv6 Prefix Delegation support for DVR https://review.openstack.org/277657 | 18:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darek Smigiel proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add project-id to neutronclient https://review.openstack.org/298425 | 18:37 |
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| kfox1111 | so, I've got a neutron that's misbehaving again. it seems like nova may be hitting neutron harder then it can handle. its spawned thousands of openssl cms commands which are waiting for input from neutron. | 18:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darek Smigiel proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Moving to Keystone v3 API https://review.openstack.org/257362 | 18:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Log SHA1 hash of X-Auth-Token value https://review.openstack.org/298637 | 19:26 |
| dasm | clayton: hey man. are you here? | 19:27 |
| clayton | ? | 19:27 |
| dasm | i have an error in jenkins with your test | 19:27 |
| clayton | link? | 19:27 |
| dasm | and i'd like to know how to find what happened | 19:27 |
| dasm | clayton: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297890/ | 19:27 |
| dasm | clayton: maybe you'll be able to help me | 19:28 |
| clayton | looking | 19:28 |
| clayton | that appears to have failed dsvm-functional because the test took too long | 19:28 |
| clayton | there is a 90min gap in the log here http://logs.openstack.org/90/297890/4/check/gate-neutron-dsvm-functional/69997de/console.html#_2016-04-04_17_27_05_727 | 19:29 |
| dasm | clayton: yeah. i've noticed this one | 19:30 |
| dasm | 2016-04-04 17:27:05.727 | 2016-04-04 17:27:05.710 | | 19:30 |
| dasm | 2016-04-04 19:06:23.229 | /home/jenkins/workspace/gate-neutron-dsvm-functional/devstack-gate/functions.sh: line 1148: 30460 Killed timeout -s 9 ${REMAINING_TIME}m bash -c "source $WORKSPACE/devstack-gate/functions.sh && $cmd" | 19:30 |
| clayton | I think that's just a bad nodepool node | 19:30 |
| dasm | clayton: so, just recheck? maybe we should think how to improve this issue? | 19:30 |
| clayton | I'd just recheck, someone with more experience might say otherwise | 19:31 |
| dasm | clayton: ok, i'll recheck. but i'm curious how we can get rid of this kind of situation. | 19:32 |
| dasm | clayton: thanks | 19:32 |
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| clayton | np | 19:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: create HA router resources before router creation https://review.openstack.org/301316 | 19:50 |
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| jaypipes | carl_baldwin: question on the routed networks spec... in the section on DHCP Scheduling, the spec mentions that the scheduler will take care to ensure that all such segments have a DHCP server. How does the scheduler know the physical topology of the network in order to place a DHCP agent on a node that has network connectivity to the broadcast domain the segment handles? | 19:51 |
| carl_baldwin | jaypipes: the host / segment mapping discussed in the spec. | 19:51 |
| jaypipes | carl_baldwin: guh, ok, sorry just getting to that part :) sorry for bothering you. | 19:52 |
| carl_baldwin | jaypipes: No worries. Glad to help. | 19:52 |
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| prometheanfire | so, it's my understanding that ipv6-only tenant networks work in mitaka? | 19:52 |
| anilvenkata | john-davidge, can u please review PD change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241227/ | 19:54 |
| john-davidge | anilvenkata: Sure | 19:54 |
| anilvenkata | john-davidge, thanks John | 19:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Theis proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Devref: Newton updates for transition to OSC https://review.openstack.org/299399 | 20:00 |
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| busterswt | kevinbenton ping | 20:08 |
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| kevinbenton | busterswt: pong | 20:14 |
| busterswt | kevinbenton have a sec to look at iptables_manager and _apply_synchronized? Came up on some regressions from kilo -> liberty that seems to be related to the iptables diff | 20:15 |
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| kevinbenton | busterswt: yes | 20:16 |
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| busterswt | kevinbenton we have a large environment with a neutron router and ~1,000 floating IPs, and it takes ~120 secs to get through apply_synchronized. Take a look at this gist if you can: | 20:18 |
| busterswt | kevinbenton https://gist.github.com/busterswt/479e4e5484df7e91017da48b38fa5814 | 20:18 |
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| busterswt | kevinbenton takes a bit to loop through all of those, and there's no difference other than the mask and the --to switch | 20:19 |
| kevinbenton | busterswt: ack. are you able to apply a patch to test a change? | 20:21 |
| busterswt | sure. | 20:21 |
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| kevinbenton | busterswt: ok. how much longer will you be online today? | 20:23 |
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| busterswt | kevinbenton i will be on for another 1.5 hrs or so. But it can wait until tomorrow or later if that works for you. Non-prod environment. | 20:24 |
| kevinbenton | busterswt: ack | 20:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: match snat/dnat format used by iptables https://review.openstack.org/301335 | 20:31 |
| kevinbenton | busterswt: ^^ | 20:31 |
| kevinbenton | busterswt: give that a try | 20:31 |
| busterswt | kevinbenton checking | 20:31 |
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| kevinbenton | busterswt: i also need to push another patch to weed out these other l3 agent rules. i don't think we have good coverage of their interaction with the iptables manager | 20:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: [DO NOT MERGE]: iptables diff canary https://review.openstack.org/301338 | 20:34 |
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| busterswt | kevinbenton much. better. Total time for _apply_synchronized: Scheduling router: 2.59, Creating/associating floating IP: 0.5695 | 20:45 |
| haleyb | kevinbenton: oh, more iptables-save/restore mismatches :( | 20:45 |
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| pjm6 | Hi there | 20:47 |
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| pjm6 | i'm having some troubles with neutron with an existing network | 20:47 |
| pjm6 | my VM makes a dhcp request, I receive in the router of that network, and in the compute node I receive the reply, but for some reason the reply never gets to the VM | 20:48 |
| pjm6 | anyone have a tip on what debug I could do more? | 20:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darek Smigiel proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add project-id to neutronclient https://review.openstack.org/298425 | 20:49 |
| kevinbenton | busterswt: excellent | 20:50 |
| kevinbenton | haleyb: yeah, all of my tests on the convergence were for security groups | 20:50 |
| kevinbenton | haleyb: nothing to cover the l3 rules | 20:50 |
| haleyb | pjm6: that usually means a security group rule is dropping it, if you run tcpdump on the bridge and see it, but not on the tap, then that's it | 20:50 |
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| pjm6 | I see in the TCPDUMP the reply | 20:51 |
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| pjm6 | sorry caps | 20:51 |
| pjm6 | can I paste here haleyb ? | 20:51 |
| kevinbenton | pjm6: paste on paste.openstack.org and then link here | 20:51 |
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| busterswt | kevinbenton thanks for the quick turnaround. | 20:52 |
| pjm6 | thanks kevinbenton | 20:52 |
| pjm6 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/fHPSlEIxZESNvIuSPYvQ/ | 20:52 |
| kevinbenton | busterswt: yeah, i'll need to get some tests added to that patch and then we can get it merged and back-ported | 20:53 |
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| kevinbenton | busterswt: so it will take a while before it lands in a stable branch | 20:53 |
| pjm6 | so haleyb, this could be the problem of the tap? | 20:53 |
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| busterswt | kevinbenton sure thing. we're not in much of a rush right now, but look forward to the backport | 20:53 |
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| busterswt | kevinbenton do i need to file a bug? or are we good? | 20:54 |
| kevinbenton | busterswt: don't worry about it. i got it covered | 20:55 |
| busterswt | kevinbenton sweet! thanks :) | 20:55 |
| pjm6 | well the reply I don't see in the tap in the fact | 20:55 |
| pjm6 | only the request | 20:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Revert "DVR: Fix issue of SNAT rule for DVR with floating ip" https://review.openstack.org/301348 | 20:56 |
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| pjm6 | haleyb, i think it works :D | 20:58 |
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| haleyb | pjm6: ok, so it was a security group rule? | 21:08 |
| pjm6 | Yes, I didn't have any UDP working | 21:08 |
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| pjm6 | I just let 67 and 68 and starts working... | 21:08 |
| haleyb | pjm6: normally those are allowed by default, so don't know why they went away | 21:09 |
| pjm6 | now I will try to see how the IP address could be shown correctly on horizon | 21:09 |
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| pjm6 | hmm, maybe I did something wrong | 21:09 |
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| pjm6 | even with an external dhcp, the IP address should be shown correctly in horizon , right? | 21:10 |
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| haleyb | pjm6: yes, it should | 21:13 |
| pjm6 | well it seems that after I make a reboot the VM was stopped in the cloud init info | 21:13 |
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| pjm6 | well I have to go, see if I figure this out | 21:53 |
| pjm6 | thank you for the help haleyb :) | 21:54 |
| haleyb | np | 21:54 |
| kfox1111 | anyone know why neutron woudl spawn off a bagillion openssl cms processes? | 21:55 |
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| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: so.... we have a lot of config options for OVS and OVSDB | 21:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-neutronclient: Log SHA1 hash of X-Auth-Token value https://review.openstack.org/298637 | 21:58 |
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| mlavalle | armax, kevinbenton: so you need hands for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105078/? | 22:00 |
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| kevinbenton | mlavalle: probably. can you ping me later this week? i'll try to get the spec revised | 22:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: moo? | 22:01 |
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| mlavalle | kevinbenton, armax : there is an IBM dev based out of China. I don't know his level of expertise. I have a conversation with him on Thursday. He might be a newby. Would that be useful? | 22:03 |
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| kevinbenton | mlavalle: might not be too good. the hard part with the flavors is a lot of refactoring of the current tightly coupled l3 stuff | 22:04 |
| mlavalle | kevinbenton, armax: we want to help him get up to speed contributing upstream | 22:04 |
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| armax | mlavalle: hard to tell right now, but once we get something off the ground he can definitely help in some area | 22:04 |
| kevinbenton | mlavalle: but i think we may have some stuff that he could work on WRT to writing API tests | 22:04 |
| ZZelle_ | mlavalle, hi | 22:05 |
| mlavalle | kevinbenton, armax: ok, I'll ping you guys again on Friday after my conversation with him and will share my findings | 22:05 |
| armax | ok | 22:05 |
| mlavalle | ZZelle_: hi | 22:05 |
| armax | thanks mlavalle | 22:05 |
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| mlavalle | armax: the key point with him is that we want to focus him 100% upstream Neutron. So please keep that in mind. He might be useful for other things | 22:06 |
| kevinbenton | ack | 22:06 |
| ZZelle_ | mlavalle, i am not exactly sure to understand what i mean in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090920.html | 22:06 |
| ZZelle_ | what you mean :) | 22:07 |
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| mlavalle | ZZelle_: first of all, thanks for the follow up ;-) I am working on this patchset for routed networks https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285548/ | 22:09 |
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| mlavalle | ZZelle_: The idea is to be able to map segments and hosts and reflect that in the DB. I was pointed to your patchset by carl_baldwin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205631/33 | 22:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: you back stateside? | 22:11 |
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| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: yep. on Amtrak right now, pulling into philly. I'll ping you tomorrow | 22:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | aight. i might be out most of the morning | 22:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | also, dont crash | 22:12 |
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| mlavalle | ZZelle_: after an IRC conversation with rkukura and kevinbenton on Thursday, we agreed that the next revision of my patchset will use filter_hosts_with_segment_access here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205631/33/neutron/plugins/ml2/managers.py | 22:13 |
| mlavalle | ZZelle_: the thinking is to call the mechanism drivers to decide host acces to a segment. Makes sense? | 22:14 |
| ZZelle_ | mlavalle, yes and no, because the main limitation of filter_hosts_with_segment_access is how it scales | 22:14 |
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| mlavalle | Sam-I-Am: LOL | 22:15 |
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| ZZelle_ | mlavalle, the main trouble with this method is that we iterate over all segments and all agents on host for every candidate host | 22:19 |
| mlavalle | ZZelle_: the way I intend to use it is to limit the search to one host and segments that might be accesible by it | 22:20 |
| ZZelle_ | mlavalle, so it's fine | 22:20 |
| mlavalle | ZZelle_: as soon as I push the next revision, I'll add it to the reviewers | 22:21 |
| ZZelle_ | mlavalle, because iirc carl_baldwin wanted to use it on every compute host iirc | 22:21 |
| ZZelle_ | mlavalle, thx | 22:21 |
| mlavalle | ZZelle_: I'll add you to the reviewers | 22:21 |
| mlavalle | ZZelle_: thanks again for your interest. Highly appreciated :-) | 22:22 |
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| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, hi | 22:30 |
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| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: Hi | 22:32 |
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| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, about https://review.openstack.org/205631 and https://review.openstack.org/285548 | 22:33 |
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| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, is there still an intention to speed up host filter based on network access when len(hosts) becomes large? | 22:34 |
| ZZelle_ | typically applied on all compute hosts? | 22:35 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: If I recall, the thing that concerned me was looking through all of the JSON blobs from all of the agents rows, right? | 22:36 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, yep | 22:36 |
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| ihrachys | salv-orlando: kevinbenton: silly question on API sorting/pagination: why is it controlled by config option? | 22:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | Yes. The table that mlavalle is adding to store the mapping should help with that. | 22:37 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: ^ | 22:37 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, one approach is to persist which host is able to connect to which segment (or perhaps which network) => the filtering computation is done once and persisted in db | 22:40 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: That's essentially what mlavalle is doing. | 22:40 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285548/2/neutron/db/migration/alembic_migrations/versions/newton/expand/8fd3918ef6f4_add_segment_host_mapping.py | 22:41 |
| * mlavalle following with interest conversation between carl_baldwin and ZZelle_ | 22:41 | |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, an other approach is to persist json blob as text columns => the filtering becomes a db query but we must know every attribute used in the filtering ==> so in general not working for out-of-tree mechanisms | 22:42 |
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| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: Do you see any advantage to that latter approach? | 22:43 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, db consistency | 22:44 |
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| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: Could you elaborate? | 22:45 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, any update to agent's configuration introduces inconsistencies between segment-host-map and agent-configuration | 22:45 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, as agent config impacts segment-host-map | 22:45 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: Wouldn't they both be updated at the same time? | 22:46 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, any update would be quite costly | 22:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: How so? | 22:49 |
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| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, if you add/remove a physnet, it implies in the worse 4096 db inserts or deletes | 22:50 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, if you add/remove a physnet, it implies in the worse case 4096 db inserts or deletes | 22:51 |
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| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: I'm not picturing this scenario. | 22:53 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, sorry i am wrong, you should recompute everything for the associated host | 22:53 |
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| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, any change in compute host agent configurations impacts segment-map-hosts? | 22:55 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: Yes, that should be right. mlavalle could you confirm? ^ | 22:55 |
| ZZelle_ | typically bridge_mapping for OVS | 22:55 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin, ZZelle_: that is correct | 22:56 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin, ZZelle_: I have to leave now. will catch up with you tomorrow morning | 22:58 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, mlavalle, so adding a new physnet on an agent implies to recheck every segment that are not currently supported by the host (if you use check_segment_for_agent) | 22:58 |
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| ZZelle_ | it's the same if you removes a physnet: you have to check every segment currently supported by the host (as a segment can be supported by multiple agents) | 22:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: L3 agent: match format used by iptables https://review.openstack.org/301335 | 23:27 |
| kevinbenton | haleyb: check that out when you get a sec ^^ | 23:27 |
| kevinbenton | haleyb: found a nice easy spot to put a test in the functional stuff to prevent regressions | 23:27 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: you should probably take a quick look at that as well to make sure i didn't break anything obvious | 23:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: [DO NOT MERGE]: iptables diff canary https://review.openstack.org/301338 | 23:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: ack | 23:58 |
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