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| prometheanfire | huh, I can't see what ipv6 address my server has :| | 00:30 |
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| prometheanfire | I can get to it though, guess more pd bugs | 00:31 |
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| mhayden | prometheanfire: what are your ipv6 related parameters on that subnet? | 01:05 |
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| prometheanfire | mhayden: what do you mean? | 01:05 |
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| mhayden | i can't remember the params offhand | 01:06 |
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| mhayden | when you make the subnet, you specify two params: one has slaac in it | 01:06 |
| mhayden | --ipv6-ra-mode --ipv6-address-mode | 01:07 |
| prometheanfire | also, in the latest kernel patch | 01:07 |
| prometheanfire | David Howells (1): X.509: Fix leap year handling again | 01:07 |
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| prometheanfire | oh | 01:07 |
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| prometheanfire | --ipv6_ra_mode slaac --ipv6_address_mode slaac | 01:08 |
| prometheanfire | followed this http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/adv-config-ipv6.html | 01:08 |
| mhayden | if i remember right, i set ipv6-address-mode and didn't set ipv6-ra-mode | 01:08 |
| mhayden | but i have an external router doing router announcements for me | 01:08 |
| mhayden | if you want the RA's done in neutronland, you'd need both set | 01:09 |
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| mhayden | but i've yet to get that working | 01:09 |
| prometheanfire | I have the internal router (and an external router on an external flat net) | 01:09 |
| prometheanfire | I think it's just --ipv6-ra-mode you need to set to do RAs :P | 01:09 |
| prometheanfire | --ipv6-address-mode is for setting how the addresses are generated iirc | 01:10 |
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| korean-101 | hi | 06:31 |
| korean-101 | is that possible "1 tenant, 1 network, 2 subnets, 1routers" | 06:32 |
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| korean-101 | test-subnet1 | 192.168.1.0/24,,,,test-subnet2 | 192.168.2.0/24 | 06:33 |
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| apoorv | not able to ping my instances | 06:55 |
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| matrohon | scheuran, hi | 08:20 |
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| atuvenie | I have a problem with the ovs-agent. From what I see there is no way to use client side certificates with the ovs-agent at the moment for SSL/TLS. Or is there? | 08:37 |
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| scheuran | matrohon, Hi, good morning | 08:42 |
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| matrohon | scheuran, good morning! | 08:43 |
| matrohon | scheuran, I was wondering if you were aware of the os-vif lib effort? | 08:44 |
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| scheuran | matrohon, I know that there's something going on - but I'm not in the details | 08:46 |
| matrohon | scheuran, danpb posted a sum up os os-dev ML, very interesting, but it needs some neutron developers to have neutron adapted to this new effort | 08:48 |
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| scheuran | matrohon, yeah I briefly went over this mail | 08:48 |
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| scheuran | matrohon, I need to have a look at that host object that is passed from nova to neutron | 08:49 |
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| matrohon | scheuran, yep, same for me :) | 08:50 |
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| scheuran | matrohon, from what I got is that it is passed whenever a port is being requested for a vm on a host(the bidning:host_id is being set/updated) | 08:52 |
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| scheuran | matrohon, so probably it wouldn't solve the migration issue - as today this happens after migration... | 08:52 |
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| matrohon | scheuran, yep, but AFAIU, it passes a collection of possible vif driver, regarding the constraints of the host, and then neutron has to pick one of those vif drivers | 08:54 |
| matrohon | scheuran, so neutron could take another vif driver during the live-mig | 08:55 |
| scheuran | matrohon, I think the constraints are only about what the nova code on this hosts supports | 08:55 |
| scheuran | matrohon, not what the neutron agent on this hosts supports... | 08:55 |
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| scheuran | matrohon, and if we want something like this - this needs to happen before migration! | 08:56 |
| scheuran | matrohon, cause also the nova plug action depends n the vif type... | 08:56 |
| matrohon | scheuran, it has to be correlated. I'm not sure we can specify which host supports which technology in nova | 08:56 |
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| matrohon | scheuran, +1 | 08:57 |
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| matrohon | scheuran, I feel like nova give the collection of vif driver it has in its parameters and neutron choose one of those when a port gets created | 08:57 |
| scheuran | matrohon, yes | 08:58 |
| matrohon | scheuran, but of course, this doesn't solve the live mig issue | 08:58 |
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| scheuran | matrohon, and today nova just requests a port, without specifying any vif information right? | 08:59 |
| scheuran | matrohon, sorry, have to rush to a meeting | 08:59 |
| matrohon | scheuran, yep, let's keep an eye on this effort! | 08:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nechaev proposed openstack/neutron: Adding support of releasing DHCPv6 leases https://review.openstack.org/301747 | 09:02 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, morning | 09:15 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: mrnng | 09:15 |
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| dukhlov | ihrachys: hi! | 09:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: tell the plugin about field selection https://review.openstack.org/305707 | 09:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add revision numbers to standard attribute objects https://review.openstack.org/303966 | 09:41 |
| dukhlov | ihrachys: I fixed review and ran tests for dragonflow, ovn and vmware-nsx | 09:41 |
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| ihrachys | dukhlov: cool. I will get there this week. | 09:42 |
| dukhlov | ihrachys: vmware-nsx has problem because name name of method changed | 09:42 |
| dukhlov | ihrachys:i fixed it in vmware's review | 09:43 |
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| ihrachys | dukhlov: why in vmware? which method do you rename? | 09:43 |
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| ihrachys | dukhlov: no plugins should be broken by the neutron change. if that happens, we should solve it on the neutron side. | 09:44 |
| dukhlov | ihrachys: also some non-voting dragonflow jobs failed, but I haven't found problem connected to my change | 09:44 |
| dukhlov | ihrachys:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305665/2/vmware_nsx/plugins/nsx_v3/plugin.py | 09:45 |
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| dukhlov | ihrachys: so should I revert it to start_* | 09:45 |
| dukhlov | ? | 09:46 |
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| ihrachys | dukhlov: you can leave an alias that would trigger deprecation warning. | 09:47 |
| ihrachys | dukhlov: you will still use the new name in neutron tree | 09:47 |
| ihrachys | eventually, we will remove the old alias. | 09:48 |
| dukhlov | ihrachys: ok, sounds good | 09:48 |
| ihrachys | also, what happens with 3party plugins that don't provide get_workers()? | 09:48 |
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| dukhlov | If they are derived from NeutronDbPluginV2Base - they have it, if not it is also ok | 09:52 |
| anilvenkata_ | kevinbenton, can u please review l2pop ha change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255237/ | 09:52 |
| dukhlov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276842/43/neutron/service.py | 09:52 |
| dukhlov | line 254 | 09:52 |
| dukhlov | there is check if 'get_workers' exists | 09:53 |
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| dukhlov | ihrachys:^^ | 09:56 |
| ihrachys | ok great. I will take a look later. | 09:57 |
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| dukhlov | ihrachys: thank you | 10:06 |
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| atuvenie | armax: From what I see there is no way to use client side certificates with the ovs-agent at the moment for SSL/TLS. Or is there? It would be very useful to be able to do something like ovs-vswitchd.exe --service-monitor ssl:127.0.0.1:8888 --private-key=test-privkey.pem --certificate=test-cert.pem --ca-cert= cacert.pem on Windows | 11:20 |
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| atuvenie | armax: From what I see in the code there is no way of sending the certificates but it is relatively easy to implement. | 11:22 |
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| ajo_ | rossella_, I'm waiting for conformation from huats (kuryr team, with apuimedo ) but I think we have a bug in ovs agent: https://www.evernote.com/l/ADQ44MF6_qlMLJ_xdggq5dW-MCkAIBm-a6I | 11:33 |
| ajo_ | the interface details are discovered in 2 steps | 11:34 |
| apuimedo | yeah... It's odd | 11:34 |
| ajo_ | one blank, one blank, one with the iface-id, etc | 11:34 |
| ajo_ | and then it's ignored until you restart the agent | 11:34 |
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| ajo_ | apuimedo, I suspect there's something broken in the logic, or that case is not considered | 11:34 |
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| ajo_ | apuimedo, one option is trying to create the interface and details as quick as possible, but that's only a workaround | 11:34 |
| apuimedo | probably it assumes some undocumented behavior that nova does | 11:35 |
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| ajo_ | it could be, look at the nova vif code or lib-vif | 11:35 |
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| apuimedo | I'd bet more in the port creation, rather than the binding | 11:35 |
| apuimedo | but it is all possible | 11:35 |
| ajo_ | apuimedo, after that detection I pasted, the agent should get the port id, and talk to neutron server, | 11:36 |
| ajo_ | but it's not doing it | 11:36 |
| ajo_ | it does instead, if you reboot it | 11:36 |
| apuimedo | ajo_: I thought that the agent always goes to neutron to ask if it sees a port uuid | 11:36 |
| ajo_ | apuimedo, no if there's a bug | 11:36 |
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| apuimedo | did you see any tag in your nova env that we are not adding in kuryr? | 11:37 |
| ajo_ | apuimedo, I'm not aware of any missing tag/detail | 11:37 |
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| apuimedo | ajo_: well, we do not put a vm-uuid. But I really hope that is not it | 11:42 |
| ajo_ | we don't use that field | 11:43 |
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| apuimedo | oh, we do set it after all as well :P | 11:43 |
| apuimedo | I guess we put the container uuid | 11:43 |
| ajo_ | haha | 11:44 |
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| apuimedo | ajo_: I think I know what's the difference :-) | 11:46 |
| ajo_ | apuimedo, what's it? | 11:46 |
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| apuimedo | If I read the nova code correctly, they add the port and set the interface in a single ovs-vsctl command. While we do it in two ovs-vsctl commands | 11:46 |
| apuimedo | it may be a race | 11:46 |
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| ajo_ | apuimedo, yes, I suspect that's not correctly handled on the ovs-agent side | 11:47 |
| apuimedo | I bet my lunch on it | 11:47 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 11:47 |
| ajo_ | that's exactly what I was saying :D | 11:47 |
| ajo_ | I already eat my lunch (for just in case) :) | 11:47 |
| ajo_ | ate | 11:47 |
| ajo_ | :D | 11:47 |
| ajo_ | apuimedo, btw, I'm not sure how atomical the ovsdb change happens when done with "--" "--" via ovsctl | 11:48 |
| ajo_ | we may ask an expert on that matter | 11:48 |
| apuimedo | no diea | 11:48 |
| ajo_ | because otherwise, the race will be der | 11:48 |
| ajo_ | there | 11:48 |
| apuimedo | but I suspect it will fix the issue | 11:48 |
| ajo_ | just less likely to happen | 11:48 |
| ajo_ | apuimedo, tell me when you try :) | 11:48 |
| apuimedo | but ovs-agent should probably check when changes happen | 11:48 |
| apuimedo | re-bindings and stuff | 11:48 |
| ajo_ | apuimedo, and then help me fill a bug for the ovs-agent | 11:48 |
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| ajo_ | obondarev_, ^ ++ | 11:50 |
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| ajo_ | apuimedo, do you sync kuryr with notifications like nova? or that's not implemented/necessary? : please note https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246898/16/neutron/notifiers/nova.py | 11:52 |
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| rossella_ | ajo_, apuimedo /me looking | 11:57 |
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| rossella_ | ajo_ apuimedo so looking at the debug pasted, the first new action has no external_ids set so the agent think that port can be ignored since it doesn't belong to neutron. The second "new" has the external_ids set, maybe there's some bug in the process_event of SimpleInterfaceMonitor and we pass to the agent only the fist event (without external_ids) | 12:10 |
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| ihrachys | dmellado_: what's the rationale behind moving tempest tests for neutron from neutron.tests.api into neutron.tests.tempest? | 12:14 |
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| ihrachys | amuller_: ^ | 12:14 |
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| jlibosva | ajo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300233/ it feels like it's realted to ip spoofing. any chance you started working on it? I remember you were interested in it :) | 12:15 |
| ajo | jlibosva, yes, I had located that patch | 12:16 |
| ajo | jlibosva, I started writing the changes in devref | 12:16 |
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| apuimedo | rossella_: that's exactly rght | 12:16 |
| jlibosva | ajo:documenting the new table? | 12:16 |
| ajo | jlibosva, but was caught buy lots of random things, :/ | 12:16 |
| ajo | jlibosva, yes, a new table, and other changes for dhcp | 12:16 |
| jlibosva | ajo: I know that feeling bro ;) | 12:16 |
| ajo | jlibosva, there is another patch, 1 sec | 12:17 |
| ajo | let me look at my notes | 12:17 |
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| rossella_ | apuimedo, did you find the offending code? | 12:17 |
| ajo | jlibosva, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303617 | 12:17 |
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| apuimedo | rossella_: yes. I found out that we were creating the port, then setting the external ids, instead of doing it like nova in a single action | 12:18 |
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| apuimedo | this was working before the anti spoofing was added | 12:18 |
| ajo | jlibosva, this one in master: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300202/ | 12:18 |
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| apuimedo | ovs-agent should only react when it sees external ids, not only (and not ever) in port addition) | 12:18 |
| rossella_ | apuimedo, right | 12:18 |
| ajo | jlibosva, we shall only allow requests from the know port IPs (renewals), or 0.0.0.0 (initial request to get an address) | 12:19 |
| apuimedo | for the moment, we will conform to this behavior https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305790/ | 12:19 |
| ajo | the mac filtering, | 12:19 |
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| rossella_ | apuimedo, it was designed to react only to ports belonging to openstack and are identified by external_ids | 12:19 |
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| ajo | then that | 12:20 |
| ajo | and olso | 12:20 |
| ajo | also | 12:20 |
| ajo | ... | 12:20 |
| rossella_ | apuimedo, ok...anyway I still think there might be a bug, since you set the external_ids in the second call | 12:20 |
| ajo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201650 | 12:20 |
| ajo | jlibosva, ^ IPv6 ICMPv6 NA | 12:20 |
| ajo | lots of mushrooms to pick :) | 12:20 |
| rossella_ | apuimedo, can you please report a bug anyway or I will do that | 12:20 |
| apuimedo | rossella_: I think ajo said he'd report it | 12:20 |
| rossella_ | apuimedo, ajo thanks | 12:21 |
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| apuimedo | who's on the ovs-agent team? | 12:21 |
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| rossella_ | ajo, yamamoto and me | 12:22 |
| rossella_ | kevin is the liutenant, am I missing somebody ajo? | 12:22 |
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| apuimedo | very well :-) | 12:22 |
| apuimedo | I know almost all | 12:23 |
| ajo | apuimedo, if we verify it, yes, we could use the link to your patch as an example | 12:23 |
| ajo | and the log I captured | 12:23 |
| ajo | rossella_, not sure :D | 12:23 |
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| ajo | apuimedo, I added some suggestions, stupid readability ones: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305790/1 | 12:23 |
| apuimedo | cool | 12:23 |
| ajo | :-) | 12:23 |
| apuimedo | ajo: I agree wholeheartedly with the suggestion | 12:24 |
| ajo | lol :) | 12:24 |
| apuimedo | at times I regret I didn't design it to use env vars instead of args | 12:24 |
| ajo | apuimedo, args seem more natural, specially for testing :) | 12:25 |
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| ajo | apuimedo, too many ways to do the same thing :) | 12:25 |
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| ajo | jlibosva, did you get this last link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201650 ? | 12:26 |
| apuimedo | ajo: env vars is what cni uses, so it would make it more consistent with the container world | 12:26 |
| apuimedo | and they are fetched by name | 12:26 |
| ajo | I got disconnected in the middle of the conversation | 12:26 |
| ajo | apuimedo, consistency is always a good point | 12:26 |
| apuimedo | ajo: and I still think that binding should be done in C or in a non interpreted language (cap_net_admin) | 12:27 |
| apuimedo | although as you remember, I do have a workaround | 12:27 |
| ajo | apuimedo, yes, having an extra binary python | 12:27 |
| ajo | I wish that had a better solution | 12:27 |
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| apuimedo | well, more than a binary python, it's a binary that binds to libpython | 12:28 |
| ajo | well, that's better, right | 12:28 |
| ajo | because libpython gets upgraded, and your binary doesn't need to change | 12:28 |
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| apuimedo | ajo: unfortunately, it is either that, or running as root and have an "oslo.privilege" that is used to drop privileges on startup of the daemon | 12:28 |
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| apuimedo | ajo: that's exactly right | 12:28 |
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| ajo | apuimedo the oslo.privilege thing seems cheaper in terms of distro packagings, but probably not mutch | 12:29 |
| ajo | much | 12:29 |
| apuimedo | It's what I use in my unofficial rdo package | 12:29 |
| ajo | :) | 12:29 |
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| ajo | apuimedo, when's that getting official? :) | 12:29 |
| apuimedo | ajo: the oslo solution would be what everybody else does | 12:29 |
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| apuimedo | ajo: regrettably, I haven't pressed enough on rdo front (nor ubuntu) to get the packaging official | 12:30 |
| apuimedo | I've been too busy with the kubernetes integration | 12:30 |
| ajo | apuimedo, I'd say it shouldn't be too difficult | 12:30 |
| ajo | may be you could get help from apevec jpena , etc.. | 12:30 |
| apuimedo | ajo: what, the packaging? It isn't | 12:30 |
| apuimedo | I just need testing time :-) | 12:30 |
| ajo | :) | 12:30 |
| apuimedo | getting some el7 VM with all installed | 12:31 |
| apuimedo | and such | 12:31 |
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| apuimedo | nothing difficult, but time consuming | 12:31 |
| ajo | I know what you mean :/ | 12:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Only update port of DHCP agent on removed network https://review.openstack.org/305802 | 12:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Don't update DHCP ports in a transaction https://review.openstack.org/305803 | 12:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Don't create floating IP port in transaction https://review.openstack.org/305804 | 12:40 |
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| jlibosva | ajo: yep, sorry, was afk talking to a colleague | 12:47 |
| ajo | if you have time now, feel free to start with any of them, my work is totally insignificant | 12:48 |
| ajo | but may be we want to track the bugs on ovsfw too | 12:48 |
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| jlibosva | ajo: okay | 12:49 |
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| ajo | jlibosva, my list of bugs is: 1558658, 1502933 and 1491690 | 12:49 |
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| scheuran | hi sc68cal, after you mail on the ML, I removed the vars from my macvtap devstack integration. Could you please have a look if this makes sense now? ^ | 12:53 |
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| dmellado_ | ihrachys: I was about to reply on the gerrit commit | 13:15 |
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| dmellado_ | so basically I need the tests to be within the plugin directory and not the other way around | 13:15 |
| dmellado_ | also I want the plugin model to be consistent, of course | 13:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Support interface drivers that don't support mtu parameter for plug_new https://review.openstack.org/305863 | 13:47 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: sc68cal: Sam-I-Am: ^ tell me what you think | 13:47 |
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| ihrachys | I hit that when I tried to backport the original mtu patch to liberty. | 13:48 |
| ihrachys | maybe we should also warn or smth. | 13:48 |
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| adreznec | Hi ihrachys. Do you know if/when you'll have a chance to take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-powervm/+bug/1563926 for our subproject release? When I talked with Kyle he assigned it to you | 13:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1563926 in networking-powervm "Release networking-powervm 2.0.0 and create stable/mitaka branch" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Adam Reznechek (adreznec) | 13:49 |
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| sc68cal | ihrachys: Is it a public API though? | 13:50 |
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| sc68cal | ihrachys: it's kind of ugly :( | 13:52 |
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| sc68cal | but looks like we sort of botched things | 13:53 |
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| ihrachys | sc68cal: yeah, it is. look: http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=LinuxInterfaceDriver&i=nope&files=&repos= | 13:55 |
| ihrachys | astara, manila, calico, midonet... | 13:56 |
| ihrachys | all of them seems to be fixed in M | 13:56 |
| ihrachys | because they were broken :) | 13:56 |
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| ihrachys | sc68cal: like in midonet: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/networking-midonet/commit/?id=13e2fc56713d1af074248516ef635d824feaf92c | 13:58 |
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| ihrachys | sc68cal: that was probably ok-ish for master (not really, but let's assume) | 13:58 |
| ihrachys | but for backport, it's definitely not a good thing | 13:58 |
| sc68cal | agreed. I wonder if it's something that we should backport then. | 13:58 |
| ihrachys | sc68cal: that's actually my intent | 13:58 |
| ihrachys | sc68cal: get it in mitaka. | 13:58 |
| ihrachys | sc68cal: and also, I want to backport the original fix to L | 13:59 |
| ihrachys | but I can't because unit tests break on midonet driver | 13:59 |
| ihrachys | since the driver is in the tree in L | 13:59 |
| ihrachys | that's actually a good thing it is, this way I realized we are potentially breaking something with the backport | 13:59 |
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| sc68cal | indeed | 14:00 |
| sc68cal | I think I found a good way to get this in and make me happy | 14:00 |
| sc68cal | see my review comment, but basically if we just warn that it's deprecated and everyone needs to move to the new method signature, I'm all good | 14:00 |
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| mhickey | rossella_s: Hey | 14:01 |
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| ihrachys | sc68cal: right. but the deprecation clock would start from Newton, not from the release where we could backport the original fix. | 14:02 |
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| sc68cal | yeah, so.... O release? | 14:03 |
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| mhickey | rossella_: Hey | 14:03 |
| ihrachys | sc68cal: yeah, I guess. | 14:03 |
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| sc68cal | oh god I'll be 30 :'( :'( :'( | 14:03 |
| sc68cal | keeeelll meeee | 14:03 |
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| ihrachys | :-))) | 14:04 |
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| ihrachys | sc68cal: time to reconsider whether you want to continue messing with parameters and compatibility and unicorns for the rest of your life. consider tomatoes. | 14:05 |
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| sc68cal | ihrachys: indeed. :) - either that or cabin in the woods | 14:05 |
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| sc68cal | maybe become a monk and take a vow of silence :) | 14:06 |
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| sc68cal | actually what I'd probably do is take the vow of silence, get my monk robe, go to one last summit :) | 14:06 |
| sc68cal | shave my head | 14:07 |
| sc68cal | so if I come to a summit looking like friar tuck, you'll know I'm quitting | 14:07 |
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| fxpester | just deployed devstack mitaka, stroubleshooting neutron, `neutron agent-list` returns blank space is it ok ? dhcp is working and VMs is running just no connection to external world | 14:08 |
| fxpester | VMs can`t ping to outside, but can ping each other and host(compute) machine | 14:10 |
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| rossella_ | mhickey, hi | 14:10 |
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| haleyb_ | fxpester: you need admin privs to have 'neutron agent-list' return info | 14:11 |
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| fxpester | haleyb_: thx, now looks good. | 14:13 |
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| haleyb | fxpester: regarding external connectivity, there are almost too many questions to ask, maybe start at making sure your external bridge is setup correctly | 14:15 |
| sc68cal | scheuran: cool, i'll take a look now | 14:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sreekumar S proposed openstack/neutron: Avoid L3 agent termination without server https://review.openstack.org/305883 | 14:18 |
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| neiljerram | sc68cal, ihrachys I'm around in case you want any more input on that interface driver discussion above - I guess you were talking about mtu. | 14:35 |
| ihrachys | neiljerram: yeah. you were broken in mitaka right? | 14:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Integrate the port allowed address pairs VersionedObject in Neutron https://review.openstack.org/287756 | 14:37 |
| neiljerram | ihrachys, Yes, but the MTU wasn't the only culprit there. Anyway I see these things as mostly our own fault for not having set up a proper public CI yet. | 14:37 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: ^ rebase plus some small fixes for tests | 14:37 |
| ihrachys | neiljerram: well, you would still be broken. we wouldn't gate on your repo. | 14:37 |
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| sc68cal | ihrachys: yeah but we if they had CI we could just ignore it like the other ones when we merged it ;) | 14:38 |
| ihrachys | neiljerram: but the way I see it, neutron devs (aka me and folks) invoked unexpected damage to other projects, so we should fix the thing. at least giving subprojects some time to revoke. | 14:38 |
| neiljerram | ihrachys, The other factor, I think, is that isn't clear what things in Neutron are a kind of API, and what are not. Eventually I guess the neutron-lib effort will help there. | 14:38 |
| ihrachys | sc68cal: ah right! then we could get 100% blame. and the way it is, it's just 99% :) | 14:38 |
| sc68cal | :) | 14:38 |
| sc68cal | but yeah I think LinuxInterfaceDriver is a good candidate for neutron-lib | 14:39 |
| ihrachys | neiljerram: right, we'll get there. but interface drivers are indeed public. you are allowed to set it in conf, and use stevedore aliases. it kinda assumes it's public. | 14:39 |
| neiljerram | sc68cal, yes, that could make sense | 14:39 |
| mhickey | ihrachys: thanks!:-) had issue untangling the merge. | 14:39 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: the trick for the rebase is to first pull the base change with -d, then cherry-pick yours on top with -X. | 14:40 |
| ihrachys | that way you don't reset base for the original base patch. | 14:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Make gate-hook structure more readable and extensible https://review.openstack.org/305544 | 14:41 |
| mhickey | ihrachys: ok, that explains it. I was pulling the patch itself. | 14:41 |
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| neiljerram | sc68cal, I think it's great the way you take things on, like MTU and devstack, and actually manage to get through them amazingly quickly. I'm happy for a little breakage to be the price for that. | 14:42 |
| sc68cal | neiljerram: well that's very kind of you to say | 14:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Support interface drivers that don't support mtu parameter for plug_new https://review.openstack.org/305863 | 14:53 |
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| dasm | o/ | 15:09 |
| annp | #openstack-meeting | 15:10 |
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| davidsha | sc68cal: ping | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: OVS: Add support for IPv6 addresses as tunnel endpoints https://review.openstack.org/257335 | 15:14 |
| sc68cal | davidsha: pong | 15:16 |
| davidsha | sc68cal: hi, you were involved with neutron-classifier correct? | 15:16 |
| sc68cal | davidsha: yes | 15:16 |
| davidsha | sc68cal: is there an example I can use for reference? I was looking into it for QoS. | 15:17 |
| sc68cal | davidsha: we have some basic usage examples in the unit tests | 15:17 |
| sc68cal | davidsha: however it is very low level, there is not really a user facing API | 15:18 |
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| sc68cal | and we plan on making it less clunky | 15:19 |
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| davidsha | sc68cal: kk, I'll look into it, thanks :) | 15:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Perkins proposed openstack/neutron: OVO Router availability zones https://review.openstack.org/304862 | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | amuller: do we have a bug for test_service_provider_list failure reported? | 15:22 |
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| ihrachys | seems pretty consistent :-| | 15:23 |
| amuller | ihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305523/ | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | amuller: haha | 15:24 |
| ihrachys | amuller: pathetic | 15:24 |
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| brad_behle | mtreinish: Hello. Did you have a chance to look at the added info I put in bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1570097 ? | 15:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1570097 in tempest "devstack stack.sh fails with neutron without q-l3" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Brad Behle (behle) | 15:25 |
| ihrachys | amuller: http://i.imgur.com/v9HXda9.jpg | 15:25 |
| amuller | ihrachys: =/ | 15:27 |
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| mtreinish | brad_behle: I see what your going for now. You're right I don't think we need networking configured in the autocreated tenant for the verify script | 15:36 |
| mtreinish | so just telling the dynamic_creds class don't make any networks is probably fine | 15:37 |
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| brad_behle | mtreinish: Okay, great. I definitely could have been more clear in the bug initially. I have the patch set out for review when you have a minute to take a look. | 15:37 |
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| mtreinish | brad_behle: I'll put it on my list for review | 15:39 |
| brad_behle | mtreinish: Thanks | 15:40 |
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| ihrachys | rossella_: I bow before your slide picking skills :) or at least image picking ones | 15:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Avoid referencing code from master branch https://review.openstack.org/305948 | 15:45 |
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| rossella_ | ihrachys, lol | 15:49 |
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| ihrachys | rossella_: matroskas are nice :) | 15:49 |
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| rossella_ | ihrachys, I think they related pretty well with the objectfield ;) | 15:50 |
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| ihrachys | rossella_: I think we moved all relevant pieces in our session pad from the first draft agenda into the layout. can you check and if that's the case, can we kill the draft? | 16:14 |
| rossella_ | ihrachys, that was on my todo list for today, let me do it right now | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | ok great. | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | rossella_: I think we can actually leave the initial discussion before upgrades, except DLM thing. I suggest we move it to Friday meetup (afaik there is actually one planned, right amuller?) | 16:16 |
| ihrachys | rossella_: leave as in 'leave in the agenda, just make sure it's time boxed properly' | 16:16 |
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| rossella_ | ihrachys, and I guess the ml2 topics will also need to be moved on friday | 16:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nechaev proposed openstack/neutron: Adding support of releasing DHCPv6 leases https://review.openstack.org/301747 | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | rossella_: right. they are not in the layout, so nothing to clean up therre. | 16:19 |
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| rossella_ | ihrachys, I was just asking since we will remove the agenda part | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | rossella_: I think it's fair to skip ml2 topic. it does seem to be isolated to ml2. while ml2 is a bit special, it does not sound like general enough for neutron to mention it. | 16:21 |
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| rossella_ | ihrachys, ok, removed the first agenda draft | 16:21 |
| rossella_ | ihrachys, removed the tooz stuff too | 16:22 |
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| ihrachys | rossella_: thanks! I guess now we may want to fill in the stub with any details that may help folks to prepare in advance. like links to patches or ML. and I bet it will be a good session. :) | 16:23 |
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| rossella_ | ihrachys, yay!! I am just adding an hint for the time boxing | 16:24 |
| rossella_ | ihrachys, feel free to adjust it | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | rossella_: I guess now we should notify armax that it's more or less settled right? | 16:25 |
| rossella_ | ihrachys, right | 16:25 |
| ihrachys | armax: ok, so https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-future-neutron-architecture seems to be in a shape that we can spread. | 16:26 |
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| fxpester | hi all again) trying make neutron to work, devstack mitaka on single machine, looks like node can`t get ARP it spams with arp requests but not accepting response... | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: Fix allowed_address_pair port binding with delayed fip https://review.openstack.org/304905 | 16:34 |
| armax | ihrachys: rossella_: I’ll have a look thanks | 16:35 |
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| fxpester | Stderr: sysctl: cannot stat /proc/sys/net/bridge/bridge-nf-call-arptables: No such file or directory | 16:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Ukhlov proposed openstack/neutron: Remove threading before process forking https://review.openstack.org/276842 | 16:42 |
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| tonytan4ever | carl_baldwin: ping, | 16:45 |
| tonytan4ever | wondering if there is any update with the segment aware DHCP scheduling bp ? | 16:46 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: remember we talked about mtu backports for L? I posted one: https://review.openstack.org/305782 | 16:51 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: though it showed in CI that we also need to guard 3rd party drivers: https://review.openstack.org/305863 | 16:52 |
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| armax | sc68cal: ping | 17:01 |
| carl_baldwin | tonytan4ever: It isn't currently a separate blueprint. It falls under the routed networks blueprint. blogan has begun some investigation. | 17:01 |
| tonytan4ever | Cool | 17:01 |
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| j_king | I can trigger https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1565752 if I run `prlimit --pid <pid of agent process> --nproc=70:70` but just a quick check shows that `lsof -p <pid> | wc -l` it starts with 92 on a fresh devstack install. Can't seem to trigger the agent to spawn 700 pipes... | 18:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1565752 in neutron "Too many PIPEs are created when subprocess.Open fails" [High,New] | 18:46 |
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| tidwellr | mlavalle: ping | 18:47 |
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| j_king | 100 seems too low, 200 seems ok... | 18:51 |
| j_king | what's the reasonable thing to do if it runs out of resources? catch the exception, log a critical warning, and retry? | 18:52 |
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| mlavalle | tidwellr: pong | 19:55 |
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| Swami | mlavalle: he is out for lunch | 19:56 |
| mlavalle | Swami: :-) Thanks | 19:56 |
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| blogan | carl_baldwin: would you mind looking/commenting on bug 1570465 | 20:01 |
| openstack | bug 1570465 in neutron "[Pluggable IPAM] AutomaticAddressRequest is created manually instead of using factory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1570465 | 20:01 |
| carl_baldwin | blogan: looking... | 20:01 |
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| blogan | carl_baldwin: thanks | 20:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | blogan: done | 20:06 |
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| blogan | carl_baldwin: excellent sir! thanks | 20:07 |
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| slaweq | msg hdaniel hello | 20:13 |
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| tidwellr | mlavalle: I'm back | 20:15 |
| mlavalle | tidwellr: what's up? | 20:15 |
| tidwellr | I have a question for you about some DNS unit tests | 20:15 |
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| mlavalle | ok | 20:16 |
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| tidwellr | a little background: I'm working on identifying tests that are assuming sequential IP address allocation and trying to make so they don't assume a specific allocation strategy | 20:17 |
| mlavalle | yeap, I remember that | 20:17 |
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| tidwellr | I came across a test in neutron/tests/unit/plugins/ml2/extensions/test_dns_integration.py that has me pulling my hair out :) | 20:18 |
| hdaniel | hi slaweq, just saw your message - I need to drop off now, sorry | 20:18 |
| mlavalle | tidwellr: lol. sorry for that | 20:18 |
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| tidwellr | mlavalle: no worries, not your problem, just trying to understand the test | 20:18 |
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| tidwellr | mlavalle: the test is test_update_port_fixed_ips_with_subnet_ids | 20:19 |
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| tidwellr | mlavalle: when I have IPAM allocate from a subnet backwards, test_update_port_fixed_ips_with_subnet_ids fails in some strange ways | 20:20 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: allocating backwards now, are we? ;) | 20:21 |
| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: :) | 20:21 |
| mlavalle | tidwellr: looking at the test, remembering what id does | 20:21 |
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| mlavalle | tidwellr: do you get a traceback? | 20:23 |
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| tidwellr | mlavalle: in _update_port_for_test(), I see the port get passed in with an IP address of 10.0.0.254, but after the update the IPv4 address seems to be updated to 10.0.0.253 | 20:23 |
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| tidwellr | mlavalle: that's when it passes | 20:23 |
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| tidwellr | mlavalle: is the intent in _update_port_for_test() to change the fixed IP on the port? | 20:24 |
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| tidwellr | mlavalle: I have a traceback decorated with embedded print statements :) | 20:26 |
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| mlavalle | tidwellr: in the context of this test case, yes. The point of the test case is to change the ip address of the port and confirm that the DNS records were updated accodingly in the extenal dns service | 20:26 |
| tidwellr | mlavalle: ok, so the update is made on the fixed IP and the assertion is that a corresponding update is made to the DNS record? | 20:27 |
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| tidwellr | mlavalle: thanks, this actually helps a lot | 20:30 |
| mlavalle | tidwellr: the test case calls _update_port_for_test, which in this case is going to change the ip addresses. It will then call _verify_port_dns, which is going to do a series of asserts. Among them, it asserts that the external dns service was called with the expected deletions and additions of records | 20:31 |
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| mlavalle | tidwellr: you cannot update a record in the external dns service. You remove the current one and then add the new one | 20:32 |
| mlavalle | tidwellr: also please note that the I am mocking the designate client. So I don't really call it. I just check that the mocks were called with the expected arguments, given the changes I am making to the port | 20:33 |
| tidwellr | mlavalle: ok, and the test changes the IP address of the port by passing fixed_ips with only a subnet_id from what I can see | 20:33 |
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| mlavalle | tidwellr: exactle. The test case just above it changes the ip addresses, specifyi ng the addresses themselves | 20:34 |
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| tidwellr | mlavalle: ok, and this test doesn't specify the addresses | 20:35 |
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| mlavalle | tidwellr: the one you asked for doesn't. The other one recovers the ip address from the port and adds 1 to it | 20:35 |
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| tidwellr | mlavalle: ok, I get it now. I think this test is fine, my IPAM logic might be buggy | 20:36 |
| tidwellr | mlavalle: thanks so much for explaining this! | 20:37 |
| mlavalle | tidwellr: well, I feel less guilty now. It is helping you to uncover bugs :-) | 20:37 |
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| tidwellr | mlavalle: no worries, just being lazy and taking my questions right to the author :) | 20:38 |
| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: no, we're not really allocating backwards now, just trying to see what breaks in my sandbox :) | 20:40 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: I figured, I was just teasing. | 20:40 |
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| atuvenie | armax: From what I see there is no way to use client side certificates with the ovs-agent at the moment for SSL/TLS. Or is there? It would be very useful to be able to do something like ovs-vswitchd.exe --service-monitor ssl:127.0.0.1:8888 --private-key=test-privkey.pem --certificate=test-cert.pem --ca-cert= cacert.pem on Windows | 21:01 |
| atuvenie | armax: From what I see in the code there is no way of sending the certificates but it is relatively easy to implement. | 21:01 |
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| ihrachys | dougwig: I believe it's fair to expect some kind of parity comparison before we eventually deprecate haproxy backend. what do you think? | 23:01 |
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| dougwig | ihrachys: i think octavia already exceeds haproxy, doesn't it? the only area it doesn't is single-vm testing, where it's nova VMs are a bit heavy. | 23:02 |
| ihrachys | dougwig: there is a lot to consider here. how do you collect logs? how do you upgrade the thing? what's with documentation? etc. | 23:03 |
| amuller | dougwig: Adoption... | 23:03 |
| ihrachys | dougwig: also, for what I saw, RPC compatibility story is not great. | 23:04 |
| amuller | dougwig: As far as RDO, haproxy is very popular, octavia wasn't picked up *yet* | 23:04 |
| dougwig | ihrachys, amuller: we've been saying for years that the haproxy agent wasn't production ready. i'm not aware of any way in which it's better, except the single machine case. it's logging and upgrade is on par. it's adoption was never great; most lbaas users that i'm aware of can't use either of the open-source versions. | 23:05 |
| dougwig | ihrachys: what does rpc compatibility have to do with it? | 23:05 |
| dougwig | amuller: umm. | 23:05 |
| dougwig | amuller: it was very nearly deleted a few weeks ago. that's scary. | 23:05 |
| amuller | dougwig: the logging and upgrade stories for octavia need work, I don't understand how it's on par | 23:05 |
| ihrachys | dougwig: the fact that you can't upgrade octavia while leaving amphoras running old images is not great. | 23:05 |
| nmagnezi | dougwig, octavia is great and headed in the right direction. but haproxy in lbaasv2 is more sane for people coming from lbaas-v1 (migration script is not ready yet). after that migration to a more advanced driver such as octavia seem to be the right upgrade when it's fully ready. | 23:06 |
| dougwig | amuller: i'm lost, how is the logging different? | 23:06 |
| dougwig | (splitting this to one thing at a time.) | 23:07 |
| ihrachys | dougwig: I don't want to get into specifics here. I just suggest that we don't make those decisions lightly, and consider parity before taking harsh steps. | 23:07 |
| amuller | Well let's not all gang up on Doug here | 23:07 |
| dougwig | gang away. | 23:07 |
| dougwig | that came out wrong. | 23:07 |
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| dougwig | i guess i've always viewed the old driver as a literal time bomb, and not production worthy. where/when can we get into specifics, so we don't miss out on your concerns? | 23:08 |
| amuller | dougwig: For haproxy v2 you get logging per agent as usual + IIRC logging from each haproxy on its local hypervisor | 23:09 |
| amuller | dougwig: with service VMs you need access to each VM some how | 23:09 |
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| amuller | dougwig: it's one extra step, I know that with Trove for example it's an unsolved problem at this point | 23:10 |
| nmagnezi | dougwig, why do you think that the haproxy agent isn't production ready? | 23:10 |
| dougwig | amuller: i think those logs get aggregated onto the octavia controller | 23:10 |
| dougwig | nmagnezi: because there you can overload your lbaas-agent node and slag it, and there are NO provisions for re-scheduling for any reason. | 23:10 |
| amuller | dougwig: you can make the same argument for the L3 agent | 23:11 |
| amuller | and DHCP agent for that matter | 23:11 |
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| dougwig | amuller: overloading those is a known quantity, VIPs are not. | 23:12 |
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| ihrachys | dougwig: maybe it indeed collects logs somehow, though I failed to find any notion of it here: https://github.com/openstack/octavia/tree/master/octavia/amphorae/backends/agent/api_server documentation could probably help, but again, it's missing. | 23:13 |
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| nmagnezi | good night guys | 23:14 |
| dougwig | ihrachys: yeah, docs are weak, which is totally in parity with the namespace driver. ;-) | 23:14 |
| nmagnezi | enjoy the summut! | 23:14 |
| amuller | nmagnezi: night | 23:14 |
| nmagnezi | summit* | 23:14 |
| nmagnezi | dougwig, that's clever :D | 23:15 |
| amuller | dougwig: I'm not entirely following your argument I'd have to circle back on that one | 23:15 |
| ihrachys | dougwig: :) | 23:15 |
| amuller | dougwig: I thought that VIPs are created by creating listeners at the API level? | 23:15 |
| dougwig | amuller: sure, but the amount of load they have to process is unknown, and the burden entirely handled by the lbaas-agent node (not the agent, but the computer). | 23:16 |
| dougwig | it's like scheduling a random flavor on a hypervisor. | 23:16 |
| amuller | dougwig: I don't know what's the difference between that and scheduling routers | 23:16 |
| amuller | dougwig: We don't know how much north/south traffic each router is going to handle | 23:17 |
| amuller | dougwig: 1 router can completely kill a machine if the tenant really wants | 23:17 |
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| amuller | dougwig: Isn't it the same case with Octavia? You spawn 1 VM, and regardless of its flavor, we have no idea how much traffic it's going to handle | 23:18 |
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| ihrachys | actually, you can always attach bwlimit qos rule to a port if you are afraid of the load | 23:19 |
| dougwig | amuller: it can scale itself. and it's totally fixable in the haproxy driver, but the team decided to write a new backend instead of enhancing the flawed current one. that doesn't mean we have to enhance both forever. | 23:19 |
| dougwig | amuller: if i'm hearing you correctly, because we can make the old driver better, we should. | 23:20 |
| amuller | ihrachys: That's a valid point. I think QoS applies here equally to both driver. | 23:20 |
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| ihrachys | yeah, no difference. | 23:20 |
| dougwig | any lbaas driver, really. there are about 10 | 23:21 |
| ihrachys | now, if we would consider a lower cap, that's another story | 23:21 |
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| amuller | dougwig: We're looking for cheap, low cost and high value fixes for haproxy since it it's widely used, then move on to Octavia | 23:21 |
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| amuller | dougwig: There's exactly 1 request I get a lot for the haproxy driver from existing users and that's some sort of HA story | 23:21 |
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| amuller | dougwig: so we searched for an easy fix for that | 23:22 |
| amuller | dougwig: That's my intention there | 23:22 |
| dougwig | amuller: can you quantify "widely" used? and there is *nothing* that says that driver can't live forever (and be more successful than octavia) as an out-of-tree driver, too. if it has that much use, it should have no trouble finding maintainers. | 23:22 |
| dougwig | amuller: the ha story was put into octavia. | 23:22 |
| amuller | dougwig: I wish the upstream user survey had numbers for lbaas drivers too | 23:22 |
| dougwig | amuller: ditto. | 23:23 |
| ihrachys | should we ask them to include it next time? | 23:23 |
| ihrachys | amuller: but anyhow, you can probably deduce from the level of project adoption | 23:24 |
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