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| namnh | Hi everyone. I have a question about DB in Neutron. Could you confirm for me. When I query to "routerports" table in Neutron DB, I see that there is ONLY ONE record with port_type "network:router_gateway" for ONE router. Is that right? | 03:26 |
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| namnh | For example: I create two subnet in external network, one for IPv4, one for IPv6 and create a router then set gateway for this router. In this case we have ONLY ONE record for this router in "routerport" table. Is that right? | 03:30 |
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| annp | Hi Yamamoto-san | 04:03 |
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| annp | hi yamamoto-san, | 04:31 |
| yamamoto | annp: hi | 04:32 |
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| annp | yamamoto: I have some question on your comments on my spec(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203509/41/specs/newton/logging-API-for-security-group-rules.rst) need your clarification | 04:33 |
| annp | yamamoto: (1) Do you consider about logging-resource is necessary in this spec or not? | 04:34 |
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| yamamoto | annp: (1) honestly i don't understand what logging-resource describes. | 04:38 |
| yamamoto | annp: will (2) follow? :-) | 04:38 |
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| yamamoto | annp: hi | 04:44 |
| annp | yamamoto: sorry, my laptop has just broken. Are you there? | 04:45 |
| yamamoto | annp: i'm here | 04:45 |
| annp | yamamoto: I have some question on your comments in my spec(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203509/41/specs/newton/logging-API-for-security-group-rules.rst) need your clarification. | 04:46 |
| annp | yamamoto: (1) Do you consider about logging-resource is necessary in this spec or not? | 04:46 |
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| yamamoto | annp: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-neutron/%23openstack-neutron.2016-06-03.log.html#t2016-06-03T04:24:41 | 04:47 |
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| yamamoto | annp: LoggingResource is just a group of xxxLogging? | 04:48 |
| annp | yamamoto: sorry, i didn't get your answer yet. | 04:48 |
| annp | yamamoto: Let me explain about loggingResource. | 04:49 |
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| yamamoto | annp: are you asking yes/no answer? | 04:50 |
| annp | loggingResource is designed as a container to manage logging object | 04:51 |
| yamamoto | why do you want a container? | 04:51 |
| annp | yamamoto: because logging API is designed to be able to easily extend for other resources, such as: Security Group, Firewall, ... | 04:53 |
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| annp | yamamoto: we can specify how to log-data is stored base on loggingResource configuration | 04:55 |
| yamamoto | annp: i thought destination of logs was specified by some agent config. | 04:57 |
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| annp | yamamoto: Do you mean 'some agent' is 'logging agent' run on compute hosts? | 04:59 |
| yamamoto | annp: i don't know. whatever consumes LOGGER_CONFIG_OPTS | 05:00 |
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| annp | yamamoto: ah, LOGGER_CONFIG_OPTS will be consumed by logging-agent | 05:01 |
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| annp | yamamoto: my idea, logging-agent collect data from syslog, or other after process log-data, split log-data to files e.g sg-<sg-log-id>.log | 05:02 |
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| yamamoto | annp: what's sg-log-id? | 05:03 |
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| annp | yamamoto: it is the logging object uuid, in this case is security_group_logs | 05:04 |
| yamamoto | annp: id of security-group-log? | 05:05 |
| annp | yamamoto: yes, it is | 05:05 |
| yamamoto | annp: in the example in the spec, it's tenant-id. is it just wrong? | 05:06 |
| annp | yamamoto: sorry, this is my fault. I get it. | 05:07 |
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| yamamoto | annp: ok | 05:07 |
| annp | yamamoto: sorry for confusing you. | 05:08 |
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| yamamoto | annp: so logging-resource doesn't actually affect where log-data is stored, right? | 05:08 |
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| annp | yamamoto: you're right. | 05:11 |
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| yamamoto | annp: so logging-resource is just a containter for operator's convenience? | 05:12 |
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| annp | yamamoto: basically yes | 05:21 |
| yamamoto | annp: ok. i thought you dropped the connection again and commented on gerrit. :-) | 05:23 |
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| annp | yamamoto: logging-resource is design to control : collect and process data and split log-data for each logging object | 05:25 |
| yamamoto | annp: but it doesn't actually control them, does it? | 05:27 |
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| annp | yamamoto: but I think it is necessary for future when we want to extend it. for example: in future, each tenant can choice different logger backend. | 05:31 |
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| janonymous | Hi, Is it possible to access http://169.254.169.254/openstack/2012-08-10/meta_data.json without launching an instance ? | 05:32 |
| yamamoto | annp: i guess you should state it in the spec. | 05:32 |
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| annp | yamamoto: ok, i will update as your advice. | 05:34 |
| yamamoto | annp: thank you! | 05:34 |
| annp | yamamoto: i have another question. | 05:35 |
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| annp | yamamoto: Do we need to provide a consume log API in this spec? | 05:35 |
| yamamoto | annp: IMO yes. at least a clear plan. writing to compute-local file seems too crude to me. | 05:37 |
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| annp | yamamoto: I intend to propose it in next step. But i'd like to get your advice. | 05:37 |
| yamamoto | annp: i know you said "next spec" but it's entirely unclear to me what it will look like. | 05:38 |
| annp | yamamoto: ah, yes. I already thinking about it. Probably I will make it more clear in my spec as your advice. | 05:39 |
| annp | yamamoto: can you follow this link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1c8WMCVNkvzz-FgGrrzzKL0mHLx30F1xrGPaNRga5uX0/edit?usp=sharing | 05:41 |
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| annp | yamamoto: I mentioned it in link reference in my spec | 05:42 |
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| yamamoto | annp: i think i saw the diagram. what's the relationship between sg-UUID.log and "Central Logging Server"? | 05:47 |
| yamamoto | annp: what's ELK? | 05:48 |
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| annp | I my diagram: there are two way to consume log-data. | 05:49 |
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| annp | yamamoto: In my diagram: there are two way to consume log-data. | 05:50 |
| annp | yamamoto: (1) using a Rest API/CLI API driectly to neutron. | 05:50 |
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| annp | yamamoto: (2) we can forward log-data 'sg-uuid.log' to 'central logging server' to analyze by ELK(Elasticsearch, Logstash, Kibana) | 05:52 |
| yamamoto | annp: how to consume log-data by "(1) using a Rest API/CLI API driectly to neutron."? | 05:54 |
| annp | yamamoto: i will design a API look like: neutron get-sg-event --sg-log <sg-log-id> --time-stamp <start:end> ... | 05:56 |
| annp | yamamoto: This API will collect log-data from logging-agent and combine them. | 05:58 |
| annp | yamamoto: this is same idea with ceilometer design: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/architecture.html#accessing-the-data | 05:58 |
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| yamamoto | annp: do you mean to implement log collector in neutron server? | 06:00 |
| annp | yamamoto: yes. | 06:01 |
| annp | yamamoto: yes. I do | 06:01 |
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| annp | yamamoto: the split log-data file will be transfered by publisher module and will process by collector module. | 06:04 |
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| annp | yamamoto: the split log-data also transfered to central logging server or used for monasca service | 06:10 |
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| yamamoto | annp: i'm not sure if it's worth to invent another log collector which is specific to neutron. | 06:13 |
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| annp | yamamoto: can you advise me the way i should follow at this moment? | 06:15 |
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| yamamoto | annp: decide the "reference implementation" of collector? | 06:20 |
| annp | yamamoto: Yes, IMO, we should follow the way (2). It may be more suitable at this moment. | 06:21 |
| annp | yamamoto: How do you think? | 06:21 |
| yamamoto | annp: i agree | 06:21 |
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| annp | yamamoto: thank you so much. I will update my spec based on today discussion. | 06:22 |
| yamamoto | annp: np | 06:23 |
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| annp | yamamoto: Thanks for your time. | 06:23 |
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| ihrachys | ajo_: have you seen https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324653/1 ? | 08:51 |
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| ajo_ | ihrachys, ack about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320439/2 | 09:11 |
| ajo_ | sorry | 09:11 |
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| ajo_ | ack about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324653/1 I mean | 09:12 |
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| davidsha | ajo_: ping, the WIP for flow management is up, let me know if I'm way off what your thinking. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323963/ | 09:17 |
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| ajo_ | davidsha, a little bit out of sync in some parts, and synced in others :), check the latest comments and my responses in the spec, I will try to clarify some of the details and ask you questions about your WIP :) | 09:21 |
| ajo_ | davidsha, one example is QoS dynamically creating tables, | 09:22 |
| ajo_ | the idea is not dynamic creation at runtime | 09:22 |
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| ajo_ | it's that the extensions declare "N" functions, and the functions, declare "N" tables, (at start), and then the manager goes over all of them, assigning tables, (and same for registers) | 09:23 |
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| ajo_ | and also resolving, when there are dependencies. | 09:23 |
| ajo_ | but, sorry, my spec was too abstract | 09:23 |
| obondarev | garyk: hey, can you please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322409/ ? | 09:24 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: ^^ I think we forgot to remove stevedore entry point for cache. The openstack package is there by accident but actually it makes sense, no? :) | 09:29 |
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| namnh | amotoki: Konbanwa Mitoki-san. Are you free? I answered your question on my patch. Could you please review it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314054/ | 09:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: oslo.cache: Remove memory alias for cache https://review.openstack.org/325154 | 10:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: oslo.cache: Remove memory alias for cache https://review.openstack.org/325154 | 10:56 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: sorry for back and forth... I decided to include the piece that cleans up neutron/openstack in devref patch ^ | 10:56 |
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| ihrachys | since it makes a bit more sense there | 10:57 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: np | 10:57 |
| ihrachys | CI is broken now anyway :) | 10:57 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: now I can't push new PS, because no changes made | 10:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: oslo.cache: Remove memory alias for cache https://review.openstack.org/325154 | 10:58 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: oh, I missed that you did rebases | 10:59 |
| ihrachys | rebases were probably unneeded, that's a glitch | 10:59 |
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| Qlawy | I have no vxlan networks anymore | 11:19 |
| Qlawy | but I still can see them in ovs (tunnels) | 11:19 |
| Qlawy | I tried to clean ml2_vxlan_endpoints in db and then restart ovs agent but without luck | 11:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: Rename ml2_dvr_port_bindings to make it generic https://review.openstack.org/323993 | 12:28 |
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| ihrachys | ajo_: do you remember why we have not utilized local callbacks to notify l2 agent extensions about port events? | 13:25 |
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| ajo_ | ihrachys, I don't but I remember that we looked at it | 13:27 |
| ajo_ | because it was quite similar | 13:27 |
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| ajo_ | ihrachys, may be now we can refactor the subscription bits into in-process callbacks | 13:38 |
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| ajo_ | while keeping the current interface | 13:38 |
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| ihrachys | ajo_: yeah. we could make it so that the extension manager subscribes to events and proxies them into extensions | 13:44 |
| ihrachys | ajo_: not sure it's worth doing right now. just thinking about it in the context of l3 agent extensions where the spec drafter leans towards event callbacks | 13:44 |
| ajo_ | ihrachys, yes, if we accept that the in-process-callbacks can use any names | 13:44 |
| ajo_ | ihrachys, event callbacks? | 13:45 |
| ajo_ | ahh, I was undertanding something different, but yes we could proxy objects to in-process-callbacks | 13:46 |
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| ihrachys | ajo_: neutron/callbacks/ | 13:46 |
| ajo_ | yes yes, I was understanding something different | 13:46 |
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| ajo_ | ihrachys, I was undestanding that we could leverage the in-process callbacks to do our subscription mechanism, instead of implementing something very similar.. | 13:47 |
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| ajo_ | almost the same as proxying | 13:47 |
| ajo_ | code reuse vs functionality details | 13:47 |
| ihrachys | ajo_: I think we should try to make l3 agent extensions as similar to l2 agent ones as possible in terms of developer experience | 13:47 |
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| ajo_ | ihrachys, the thing with neutron/callbacks is that the PORT callbacks for example, already have an interface which would differ server_side vs agent_side for example | 13:48 |
| ajo_ | yes | 13:48 |
| ihrachys | ideally, reusing the same code | 13:48 |
| ajo_ | ihrachys, I agree | 13:48 |
| ihrachys | ajo_: we could have PORT_DETAILS resource type to be explicit it's different | 13:48 |
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| ajo_ | ihrachys, where's the conversation of l3-extensions you say happening? | 13:48 |
| ihrachys | ajo_: neutron-specs :)) | 13:49 |
| ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/315745 | 13:49 |
| ajo_ | thanks | 13:49 |
| njohnston | Yes, I want to make that as similar as possible to L2 extensions - if it would be possible to generalize the solution, that would be most preferred, but if that is unfeasible for whatever reason it will look as much like a cut-and-paste as I can manage to make it as similar as possible. | 13:50 |
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| anilvenkata | amuller, regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318307/ | 13:56 |
| amuller | anilvenkata: yes | 13:57 |
| anilvenkata | amuller, "explicit DVR scenario", How tests are you suggesting for DVR? | 13:59 |
| anilvenkata | amuller, s/how/what | 13:59 |
| amuller | anilvenkata: I haven't given this much thought, but basically tests that target DVR explicitly, making sure that FIP traffic from a node with agent_mode='dvr' leaves the node directly for example | 13:59 |
| amuller | anilvenkata: instead of going through a network node | 14:00 |
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| anilvenkata | amuller, you mean remove qg-xx interface of dvr_snat node like in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307159/2/neutron/tests/fullstack/test_l3_agent.py L316 and tehn ping floating ip? | 14:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Correct hyperlinks to sub_projects documentation https://review.openstack.org/324387 | 14:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Perkins proposed openstack/neutron: WIP - Route, RoutePort and RouterRoute to OVO https://review.openstack.org/307964 | 14:20 |
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| namnh | amotoki: Kombanwa Motoki-san. I answered your question on my patch. If you have time, could you check it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314054/ | 14:49 |
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| amotoki | namnh: thanks. will check them. | 14:51 |
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| sc68cal | carl_baldwin: can you please join #openstack-qa | 14:54 |
| sc68cal | we need to discuss DVR | 14:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: loldvr :) | 14:55 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: sshhh | 14:55 |
| namnh | amotoki: Thank you Motoki-san. | 14:56 |
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| namnh | amotoki: I prepared new patch which follow your comment. After I get feedback from you, I will upload this patch. How do you think, Motoki-san? | 15:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: OVS: catch KeyError when duplicate VLAN tags exist https://review.openstack.org/325370 | 15:39 |
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| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: ^ that one should make you chuckle | 15:41 |
| sc68cal | It gets rendered as neutron-db-manage upgrade -expand | 15:42 |
| sc68cal | instead of --expand | 15:42 |
| namnh | amuller: Dear Mr.Assaf I had a solution to detect overlap IPv6 in Mysql database. Could you please see and estimate it. Here's my patch set: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314054/ | 15:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: interesting. | 15:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | wow, that sounds like a nigerian e-mail scam | 15:43 |
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| sc68cal | that stored procedure is ...... wow. | 15:47 |
| sc68cal | just wow | 15:48 |
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| sc68cal | god help anyone who has to debug that | 15:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | heh | 15:54 |
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| sc68cal | and it's a stored procedure. How are we supposed to test it and make sure it works? | 15:55 |
| sc68cal | uhhh hello | 15:55 |
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| otherwiseguy | To anyone reviewing my patches today, I apologize for any snarkiness that may seep into my replies. It has been that kind of day. | 16:34 |
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| sc68cal | otherwiseguy: ooh let me see! | 16:36 |
| otherwiseguy | sc68cal: ha! Just one of those things when your patch starts out a "huh, I can do this quick little speedup that isn't a big deal, but is worth 5 minutes of my time" and then...things happen. :) | 16:38 |
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| sc68cal | kevin gave you a +2 - so relax :) | 16:40 |
| sc68cal | it's friday | 16:40 |
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| dasm | o/ | 16:53 |
| dasm | i have general question about deleting subnets like in this case: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324617/4 | 16:54 |
| dasm | should we allow to delete all subnets, no matter who owns them? | 16:54 |
| dasm | or should we prevent from doing this? | 16:54 |
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| sc68cal | dasm: good question. I think I'm on the side of "we shouldn't" while blogan falls on the other side | 17:00 |
| dasm | sc68cal: thanks for response. | 17:00 |
| sc68cal | so I need to fly to san antonio arm wrestle blogan | 17:00 |
| dasm | sc68cal: xD | 17:00 |
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| dasm | come on in. i'm also in SAT so we could go for a beer. | 17:00 |
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| sc68cal | I think only if an admin sends a net-delete we should elevate the context and nuke the whole sucker | 17:02 |
| dasm | sc68cal: i thought about sending message to ML and dicuss it there. | 17:02 |
| dasm | sc68cal: for admin it would make sense. for tenant, we should probably send a message: you're not allowed to delete this net. | 17:03 |
| sc68cal | yeah I'd be +1 for a ML post to discuss | 17:03 |
| sc68cal | just a 15 line patch that gets admin context and nukes the subnets seems a little too straight forward | 17:04 |
| sc68cal | err | 17:04 |
| sc68cal | 3 lines | 17:04 |
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| * blogan turns his cap backwards preparing for arm wrestling | 17:04 | |
| blogan | thats a reference to the "over the top" movie back in the 80s | 17:05 |
| sc68cal | heh | 17:05 |
| * dasm is taking bets. | 17:05 | |
| sc68cal | I think if the admin sends the command to nuke the subnet, then yeah sure blow it the F away | 17:05 |
| sc68cal | but I guess I'm just worried about tenants nuking other tenants subnets | 17:06 |
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| blogan | sc68cal: i'm not strongly on the side of it should be deleted, but i worry about the fact that a user owned network can't be deleted by that user if some admin created a subnet for it | 17:06 |
| sc68cal | kinda rude | 17:06 |
| blogan | seems lke a bad UX for me | 17:06 |
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| blogan | but i'm not sure if there's a great answer to thsi either, someone's not going to be happy | 17:06 |
| sc68cal | would the admin create a subnet for a tenant but keep ownership ? | 17:06 |
| sc68cal | or just create-on-behalf-of | 17:07 |
| blogan | sc68cal: i'm assuming both cases can happen | 17:07 |
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| sc68cal | fair point | 17:09 |
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| blogan | ML sounds like a good thing to do though | 17:09 |
| sc68cal | +1 | 17:09 |
| dasm | preparing message. | 17:09 |
| dasm | will send in few secs | 17:09 |
| sc68cal | as long as we have a ML post and relnote to cover out butts I'm pretty much OK | 17:09 |
| sc68cal | when someone nukes someone else and creates an international incident | 17:10 |
| blogan | sc68cal: are we implying there will be no arm wrestling now? | 17:10 |
| sc68cal | blogan: I'm still game, we'll just have to find another excuse | 17:10 |
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| blogan | i will find some things i dont like about you | 17:11 |
| blogan | shouldn't be too hard amirite? :) | 17:11 |
| sc68cal | heh, just say you hate people from philadelphia | 17:11 |
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| blogan | isn't that a badge of honor? | 17:11 |
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| dasm | blogan: about armwrestling. we have logs for it: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/#openstack-neutron/#openstack-neutron.2016-06-03.log.html#t2016-06-03T17:00:26 | 17:17 |
| dasm | :) | 17:17 |
| dasm | sc68cal: blogan: sent an email. | 17:17 |
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| sc68cal | We should get one of those sumo suits for the summit | 17:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: devref: Cleanup OVS vHost User Guide https://review.openstack.org/315153 | 17:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/324840 | 18:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | armax: whats the status of ipam? | 18:16 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-vif: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/322553 | 18:17 |
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| pjm6 | hi there | 18:41 |
| pjm6 | before failing Port binding (when creating an instance), i get that warning | 18:41 |
| pjm6 | and in the compute host, i don't see the br-vlan.VLAN_ID created | 18:41 |
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| pjm6 | Sam-I-Am, are you there? | 18:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Enable CRUD for trunk ports https://review.openstack.org/320092 | 18:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | pjm6: yes? | 19:09 |
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| pjm6 | do you have a clue why linuxbridge-agent of a compute host don't do the sync of network bridges that he should create? | 19:10 |
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| pjm6 | i figured out what was the problem, ntp desync | 19:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | k | 19:17 |
| pjm6 | thanks :) | 19:18 |
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| armax | Sam-I-Am: can you be more specific? | 19:20 |
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| kfox1111 | I saw a spec a while ago on specific floating ip allocation. did that get implemented/is there docs on its usage? | 19:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | armax: i'm auditing the networking guide and came across this - http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/adv-config-ipam.html | 19:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's nothing particularly useful in that doc | 19:26 |
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| armax | Sam-I-Am: pavel bondarev is working with carl_baldwin to make the pluggable IPAM layer default in Newton and thus provide automatic migration | 19:27 |
| kfox1111 | --floating-ip-address of the floating ip create? | 19:27 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: as a prerequisite we can ask them to prop up docs as part of the effort? | 19:27 |
| armax | I can be really persuasive | 19:27 |
| armax | :) | 19:27 |
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| carl_baldwin | armax: what do have to persuade me with? | 19:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | carl_baldwin: excessive bbq? | 19:29 |
| armax | prop up ipam docs | 19:29 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: that’s all we got so far http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/adv-config-ipam.html | 19:29 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: and we switch to pluggable it might be worth elaborating on some more content | 19:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | armax: tl;dr, we've been stuffing too many 'normal' features into 'advanced' in the networking guide. a lot of them are mature and common enough to move into the general config section. things that are initial release, lack sufficient docs, or require additional skills (like compiling ovs from source) are going under an 'experimental' section | 19:30 |
| carl_baldwin | Sam-I-Am: that might just work! | 19:30 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: makes sense | 19:31 |
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| amuller | Sam-I-Am: I estimate that OVS 2.5 should be pretty common in 3 to 6 months FWIW. | 19:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | armax: yeah, also moving the service plugins content to a service plugins section | 19:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | amuller: you would think | 19:32 |
| amuller | I would :) | 19:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | but plenty of people are still running 2.0/2.1 | 19:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | or they use distro packages that do who knows what | 19:33 |
| openstackgerrit | boden proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Localized exception message hacking check https://review.openstack.org/325494 | 19:33 |
| amuller | Fedora / CentOS / RHEL will be moving to OVS 2.5 in a few months. As for Ubuntu, I understand that 16.06 uses OVS 2.5 but I'm really not sure. | 19:33 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: I welcome the summer cleaning | 19:33 |
| amuller | or 16.04 rather | 19:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | amuller: the ubuntu cloud archive for mitaka includes 2.5 | 19:34 |
| amuller | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/openvswitch | 19:34 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: ack, I'll put that in motion. | 19:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | problem - people who insist on using kilo | 19:34 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: thanks! | 19:34 |
| amuller | Sam-I-Am: right, I was assuming this was all in the context of the new OVS firewall, which is not available in Kilo anyway | 19:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | armax: i'll probably be trying to find authors of some of the 'lighter' content to see if we can build it out | 19:34 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: that was the best release yet | 19:34 |
| amuller | Sam-I-Am: so we're talking about Mitaka+ anyway | 19:34 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: there’s no reason to upgrade | 19:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | armax: yeah. i wasn't specifically calling out the native ovs firewall driver. | 19:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | armax: icehouse is the best, imo | 19:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | with monolithic plug-ins | 19:35 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: well if I shall mention my favorite | 19:35 |
| amuller | Sam-I-Am: armax: Oh we have initial new performance data for iptables vs. ovs fw | 19:35 |
| armax | care to venture a guess? | 19:35 |
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| armax | amuller: is that the one that was shared at the summit? | 19:36 |
| amuller | armax: it's newer | 19:36 |
| amuller | armax: the one shared at the summit was problematic | 19:36 |
| amuller | armax: it was using ovs 2.4 in some slides | 19:36 |
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| armax | amuller: ok | 19:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | armax: whats your favorite ver? | 19:37 |
| amuller | armax: we're looking at between 50% to 700% improvement, depending on the scenario... We're going to clean it up and share it again | 19:37 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: diablo | 19:37 |
| armax | amuller: ack | 19:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | so, pre-neutron | 19:37 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: I never believed in the project | 19:37 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: sorry | 19:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | i hear its crap | 19:38 |
| armax | amuller: 700% | 19:38 |
| armax | is that a typo? | 19:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova-net ftw | 19:38 |
| amuller | it's pretty neat, for some packet sizes, with a 10Gb NIC, forwarding traffic from two VMs on two separate compute nodes on the same Neutron network, we saw 1Gb (Out of 10) with iptables and 7Gb with OVS FW | 19:38 |
| amuller | armax: ^ | 19:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | amuller: might be worth putting some perf data into the networking guide to give people more reason to move to it | 19:38 |
| amuller | in other packet sizes we saw 4 vs 7 | 19:38 |
| armax | like megajumbo frames? | 19:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | we also need some flow documentation on ovs firewall implementation | 19:39 |
| amuller | Sam-I-Am: I think we have some in the devref | 19:39 |
| amuller | Sam-I-Am: We can have you and jlibosva tag team a transfer from devref to network-guide | 19:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | that works | 19:39 |
| armax | amuller: you must recall I invited you time and time again to devote some content for the networking guide | 19:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | moar content. moaaar. | 19:40 |
| amuller | hehe | 19:40 |
| amuller | armax: I recall | 19:40 |
| armax | amuller: ah you do? | 19:40 |
| armax | amuller: so you’re admitting in public that you chose to ignore me? | 19:40 |
| amuller | armax: I've been prioritizing :) | 19:40 |
| amuller | And in some cases using proxies | 19:41 |
| armax | amuller: I see | 19:41 |
| armax | amuller: nice one | 19:41 |
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| armax | I think today we had the best milestone ever | 19:41 |
| armax | 0 blueprints | 19:41 |
| armax | 34 busg | 19:41 |
| armax | bugs | 19:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | armax: my docs involvement now is pretty much full-time networking guide, so keep the patches coming and i'll fit them into the guide | 19:42 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: I’ll keep on beating the drums | 19:42 |
| amuller | we can always do what I've seen most engineering managers do which is push the remaining bugs to the next version. Viola, a release with 0 bugs! | 19:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | beating the devs or the drums? | 19:42 |
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| amuller | armax: I just got 20 emails pushing backs from m1 to m2 :) | 19:43 |
| amuller | pushing bugs* | 19:43 |
| amuller | oh wait, the emails are still coming in | 19:44 |
| armax | n1 to n2 you mean? | 19:44 |
| armax | yes | 19:44 |
| amuller | milestone 1 to 2 / newton 1 to 2 | 19:44 |
| armax | right I am typing as fast as I can :) | 19:44 |
| amuller | 10,000 words per minute? =p | 19:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-vif: This change renames the ovs plugin https://review.openstack.org/319426 | 19:45 |
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| armax | faster than the ovs firewall | 19:45 |
| amuller | armax: are those 34 bugs the bugs you pushed from n1 to n2? | 19:45 |
| armax | amuller: those were bugs that were targeted for n1 at some point and did not make the cut | 19:45 |
| armax | sorry | 19:45 |
| amuller | armax: any idea how many bugs do we have that are not targeted for any release/milestone? | 19:46 |
| armax | the ones amongst those that did | 19:46 |
| armax | amuller: you mean ‘active'? | 19:46 |
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| amuller | armax: stuff not in progress but not targeted | 19:46 |
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| armax | last time I checked we had ~300 bugs filed since Newton started | 19:48 |
| armax | and we have about ~800 open in LP since the beginning of time | 19:48 |
| amuller | I bet that the majority are no longer relevant | 19:50 |
| amuller | but still | 19:50 |
| amuller | that leaves a potential backlog of hundreds of legit bugs | 19:50 |
| amuller | :( | 19:51 |
| armax | amuller: we’re slowly chewing at the list | 19:51 |
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| armax | when I started looking at these numbers we had a total of 1000+ bugs | 19:51 |
| armax | open | 19:51 |
| amuller | I remember | 19:51 |
| amuller | So we're seeing a downwards trend | 19:52 |
| armax | and we had at least ~700 open in the Mitaka timeframe alone | 19:52 |
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| amuller | armax: Should we have a bug day where we ask cores/drivers and volunteers to triage untriaged bugs? | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | tonytan4ever proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Add subresources support for PECAN https://review.openstack.org/319626 | 19:52 |
| armax | bug squash days are mildly useful | 19:52 |
| amuller | try to knock out 100 or 200 | 19:52 |
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| amuller | armax: did we have one for Neutron in the last 2-3 releases? | 19:53 |
| armax | amuller: that’s an ambitious number | 19:54 |
| armax | I recall from kevinbenton there was one last march | 19:54 |
| armax | but I don’t know the outcome | 19:54 |
| armax | amuller: and there’s this weird link http://status.openstack.org//bugday/ | 19:54 |
| armax | which I never understood how to read | 19:54 |
| armax | and was too ashamed to ask | 19:55 |
| amuller | armax: I'm reading that by looking at the red line as the number of bugs in the 'new' state over a single work day | 19:56 |
| amuller | so the number of bugs in the new state decreased for Nova around 4pm in the last bug day | 19:56 |
| amuller | and it looks like only Nova and Sahara participated pretty much | 19:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/324838 | 20:11 |
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| dasm | carl_baldwin: thanks for email response. it was briefly discussed here, between blogan, sc68cal and me. | 20:21 |
| carl_baldwin | dasm: I missed that. How long ago? | 20:21 |
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| dasm | carl_baldwin: 4:57 PM UTC | 20:22 |
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| dasm | carl_baldwin: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/#openstack-neutron/#openstack-neutron.2016-06-03.log.html#t2016-06-03T16:53:47 | 20:23 |
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| carl_baldwin | dasm: Thanks. Looking forward to the arm wrestling match. | 20:28 |
| dasm | carl_baldwin: :D | 20:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | armax: is there any place i should file bugs for networking guide content that needs love? | 21:08 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: yes | 21:08 |
| armax | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=doc | 21:08 |
| armax | add the doc tag and the team promises to look/vet/deal with them | 21:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | thx | 21:09 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: though | 21:09 |
| amuller | armax: shouldn't the bug target be openstack-manuals? | 21:09 |
| armax | those bugs might as well be targeting neutron as well as openstack-manuals | 21:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, i was thinking that. they just need visibility in neutron. | 21:09 |
| armax | and for the stuff that can be filled in the neutron developer doc we’ll follow up with devref patches | 21:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd like to see whats in devref that should be in the net guide | 21:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably a bunch of stuff | 21:11 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: not a lot, I don’t think | 21:12 |
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