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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: your patch is nicer i think because it doesn't mutate an argument | 01:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Adding basic connectivity scenario to Neutron https://review.openstack.org/320808 | 01:05 |
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| pai15 | hello, question regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1414640 - looks like if a new external subnet was added, the link local router to the new external subnect does not get added to existing routers | 02:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1414640 in neutron "HA routers don't implement extra_subnets / multiple subnets per external network" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to yong sheng gong (gongysh) | 02:06 |
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| pai15 | new router created gets the link local to new external subnet, existing router does not get updated until there is some fip gets assigned to a vm on that network | 02:08 |
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| pai15 | anyone seen that or is that a known issue? | 02:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Tox: Remove neutron/openstack/common from excludes list https://review.openstack.org/326429 | 02:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Convert multiple exception types in the API https://review.openstack.org/319073 | 04:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add revision numbers to standard attribute objects https://review.openstack.org/303966 | 04:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hong Hui Xiao proposed openstack/neutron: Deprecate the functions map after segment moving out of ml2 https://review.openstack.org/295173 | 05:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Hong Hui Xiao proposed openstack/neutron: Use callback to update SegmentHostMapping https://review.openstack.org/326829 | 05:34 |
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| gsagie | Anyone involved with working on neutron-lib is here by any chance? | 06:04 |
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| vikram | garyk: Can you check the doubt for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325844/ | 06:52 |
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| ajo_ | nmagnezi, can you have an eye on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1590310 ? | 08:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1590310 in neutron "Reduce excessive LBaaSv2 logging" [Low,New] - Assigned to Nir Magnezi (nmagnezi) | 08:38 |
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| ajo_ | please ? :) | 08:38 |
| ajo_ | just to confirm at least, it's low prio | 08:38 |
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| ajo_ | an it's related to lbaasv2 + haproxy | 08:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhurong proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fix typo https://review.openstack.org/326917 | 08:38 |
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| nmagnezi | ajo_, i will check that, but it will take me time to handle it due to other tasks | 08:47 |
| ajo_ | nmagnezi, we just need some triaging when possible, I just know that you had haproxy driver on-hand ;) | 08:47 |
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| ajo_ | it's just creating a load balancer with no listener, and looking to the logs :D anytime will be good | 08:47 |
| ajo_ | nmagnezi, but it's low prio, so ... of course, take priority into consideration :) | 08:48 |
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| nmagnezi | ajo_, :-) | 08:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Support for MultipleExceptions in db_api decorators https://review.openstack.org/319090 | 08:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Convert multiple exception types in the API https://review.openstack.org/319073 | 08:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add revision numbers to standard attribute objects https://review.openstack.org/303966 | 08:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Check for StaleData errors in retry decorator https://review.openstack.org/326926 | 08:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Check for mysql SAVEPOINT error in retry decorator https://review.openstack.org/326927 | 08:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Re-raise retriable DB errors in callback exc handling https://review.openstack.org/326928 | 08:54 |
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| namnh | zzzeek: Hello Mr.Mike. I updated my patch set for IPv6. Could you please review it : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314054/ . Thank you so much. | 09:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Remove vif_type & details from normal port db https://review.openstack.org/326986 | 10:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] unify portbinding for normal and dvr ports https://review.openstack.org/326987 | 10:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor the rpc callback version discovery mechanism. https://review.openstack.org/322857 | 10:44 |
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| Alex_Stef | kevinbenton, ping | 10:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: os_vif: register objects before loading plugins https://review.openstack.org/326996 | 11:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: vif_plug_ovs: clarify that the plugin was not in fact renamed https://review.openstack.org/326998 | 11:01 |
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| ihrachys | ajo_: nice latest version of rpc callbacks patch. I left some nitty comments, overall good. | 11:03 |
| ajo_ | ihrachys, thanks, let me check comments now | 11:03 |
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| ajo_ | dammit, I must proofread my documents and "english texts" ':) thanks ihrachys | 11:04 |
| ihrachys | that's easier to offload it to reviewers :) | 11:05 |
| ihrachys | it's hard to spot typos in your own text | 11:05 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, aye I'm aware | 11:07 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, apologies, I'm swamped with work :< | 11:07 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: sounds like my life | 11:08 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, hopefully I might have time soon, but unfortunately I'm going on PTO for 3 weeks soon for exams :< | 11:10 |
| ihrachys | that's ok. if it does not happen, I won't cry | 11:10 |
| ihrachys | someone really interested in it can always chime in and take over | 11:10 |
| ajo_ | ihrachys, I could have detected many of those typos with a simple read, since they came from altering existing senteces more than ignorance (and I'm plenty of that) | 11:11 |
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| frickler | so why would booting an instance lower the MTU for the integration bridge to 1450? (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1376446/comments/11 for the context) | 11:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1376446 in neutron "Neutron LBAAS agent ignores MTU settings used by subnets" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Dr. Jens Rosenboom (j-rosenboom-j) | 11:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor the rpc callback version discovery mechanism https://review.openstack.org/322857 | 11:36 |
| ajo_ | ihrachys, there it goes ^ | 11:36 |
| * ajo_ goes for quick lunch | 11:36 | |
| openstackgerrit | Itzik Brown proposed openstack/neutron: qos basic scenario https://review.openstack.org/325889 | 11:37 |
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| garyk1 | ajo_: eat slowly and run fats!!! | 11:38 |
| garyk1 | fast | 11:38 |
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| frickler | so this looks indeed like a bug to me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1590397 but I haven't yet found out where that MTU change is happening, if someone could have a look that would be great | 11:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1590397 in neutron "MTU setting too low when mixing Vlan and Vxlan" [Undecided,New] | 11:40 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, ping, re backports of bugs | 12:47 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, I've commented on 2 of the 3 patches' launchpads with the effects of the current code and how they solve the race conditions | 12:48 |
| jschwarz | I'm not completely sure we *must* have the 3rd fix though. I need to look into it and remember what it does first | 12:48 |
| jschwarz | (i didn't write that one so...) | 12:49 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: ^ subnetpools api tests for sorting/pagination | 13:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/neutron: Drop neutron/i18n.py in favor of neutron/_i18n.py https://review.openstack.org/320772 | 13:10 |
| ihrachys | ouch, I need to change uuids.. | 13:10 |
| ihrachys | ajo_: where does the patch that was supposed to catch uuid duplicates for api tests stand? | 13:11 |
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| ihrachys | I mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300483/ | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: tests: added sorting/pagination api tests for subnetpools https://review.openstack.org/327081 | 13:14 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: ack, I'll rebase mine | 13:18 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: maybe better to Depends-On | 13:18 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: I don't expect clashes in code | 13:18 |
| ihrachys | and it will make rebases easier | 13:18 |
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| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: baaa | 13:26 |
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| ihrachys | ajo_: I will respin the uuid patch | 13:29 |
| ajo_ | ihrachys, which one? | 13:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: moo | 13:32 |
| ihrachys | ajo_: the one adding pep8 check for unique uuids for tempest tests | 13:32 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: you must have had an mtu question | 13:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: well, sort of... re 320121 | 13:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | i had a comment in ps 8 suggesting another way to approach the problem | 13:33 |
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| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: yes, i punted on those just to get PS9 out (with a lot less code), but you gave two options: 1) determine IP version from first agent that registers; 2) disable agents that don't match IP version | 13:36 |
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| haleyb | I'm all for #2, on the fence for #1, mostly because I don't know the code, but also because what if someone creates a network before an agent is running? | 13:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Add sanity check for idempotent id's in tempest tests https://review.openstack.org/300483 | 13:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: i suppose thats a corner case. last time i tried creating a network before there was an agent, i ended up with a bunch of errors. | 13:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | not during creation, but when the agent finally came up | 13:39 |
| ihrachys | ajo_: ^ respinned | 13:40 |
| ihrachys | amuller: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300483/5 in terms of tempest dep in test-requirements | 13:40 |
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| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: i don't want to create new options either, but i think it would help with mis-configurations | 13:44 |
| frickler | haleyb: could you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1590397 please? It seems to me that mixing different MTUs is quite pointless currently at least for OVS deployments, not sure whether LB behaves differently | 13:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1590397 in neutron "MTU setting too low when mixing Vlan and Vxlan" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Manikantha Srinivas Tadi (manikantha-tadi) | 13:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: yeah, there's explicit config vs. implicit config. my idea avoids creation of another option, but may not hit the corner cases | 13:44 |
| haleyb | frickler: yes, that bug is interesting, Sam-I-Am ^^^ | 13:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, i posted a comment | 13:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | what the host reports for ovs bridge mtu can be misleading | 13:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | for example, when i was testing large mtus (9000), br-int and br-tun were still 1500 and worked fine | 13:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the host also had those bridges marked as down, which is also interesting | 13:48 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: does that get back to OVS as treating bridges as having 64K mtus to support jumbo? | 13:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it gets back to ovs being wonky about mtu | 13:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | it says one thing according to the host, but does another | 13:49 |
| haleyb | frickler: did you see an error sending packets of various sizes? | 13:49 |
| frickler | haleyb: yes, the issue is that e.g. router ports get created with the low MTU anyway because it seems thats what "ovs-vsctl add-port br-int routerport" does | 13:50 |
| frickler | so for my vlan based network, the instance interface has MTU 1500 but the router has 1450 and will drop packets of size 1500 | 13:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | the only place mtu is defined is interface inside namespaces and linux bridges | 13:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | not on the ovs ends of things (because there is no way to define it) | 13:51 |
| frickler | the question is what is the mtu for new interfaces, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1376446/comments/11 for how I stumbled about this | 13:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1376446 in neutron "Neutron LBAAS agent ignores MTU settings used by subnets" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Dr. Jens Rosenboom (j-rosenboom-j) | 13:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | this patch was not merged, so the mtu of br-int/tun should not change from the default system value - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295917/ | 13:52 |
| haleyb | frickler: i would have thought the mtu of the network would have been min(1450, 1500) and everyone would have been 1450, at least I see dnsmasq always running with 1450 on my vxlan setup | 13:52 |
| haleyb | so clients get that in the dhcp response | 13:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | frickler: so you plug 2 different kinds of project networks into a router, the interfaces in that namespace should have the respective MTUs. br-int shouldn't matter. | 13:54 |
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| frickler | haleyb: yes, if you only use vxlan, that is fine, but if you want to mix in some vlan based tenant networks - e.g. because you need some external devices connected there - you'll have trouble | 13:54 |
| frickler | Sam-I-Am: br-int does matter, it determines the MTU of all newly created router interfaces | 13:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | the interfaces in the namespace? | 13:55 |
| frickler | Sam-I-Am: yes, they get created via "ovs-vsctl add-port br-int routerport" and are placed into the namespace after that | 13:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | which ver of os are you using? | 13:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | because we should be setting the mtu value of the router interface based on the value of global_physnet_mtu or path_mtu (depending on the network type) | 13:56 |
| frickler | I've tested with devstack on master running trusty, but I'm seeing the same with xenial/mitaka | 13:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you set the mtu options? | 13:57 |
| openstackgerrit | LiuYong proposed openstack/neutron: Fix the problem that 'net-delete' command seems to cause dead loop https://review.openstack.org/324617 | 13:57 |
| haleyb | frickler: is the mtu of the tenant network showing 1450? maybe there's some place where we forget to use it | 13:58 |
| frickler | no, the MTU for vxlan based networks is automatically set to 1450 (which is correct) and the vlan ones have 1500 by default, which is also fine for me | 13:58 |
| frickler | haleyb: well, lbaas neglegts to use the network mtu, that is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1376446 | 13:59 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1376446 in neutron "Neutron LBAAS agent ignores MTU settings used by subnets" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Dr. Jens Rosenboom (j-rosenboom-j) | 13:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Nate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: DevStack plugin for fwaas https://review.openstack.org/214350 | 13:59 |
| haleyb | frickler: yes, i know of that patch :) | 14:00 |
| frickler | haleyb: the other bug is that once there is any instance running with MTU 1450, all new router ports get that MTU, even if they are on networks with higher MTU | 14:00 |
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| frickler | haleyb: and not only router ports, but also e.g. lbaas ports, which is why I was confused about the first bug for some time | 14:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | frickler: 'once there is any instance running with mtu 1450...' | 14:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | this part confuses me | 14:03 |
| frickler | I'll add some debug output to 1590397 in order to show the behaviour | 14:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | instances dont directly touch routers | 14:03 |
| haleyb | frickler: ML2 needs to either pick the lowest, or support both, but there is definetly a bug here | 14:04 |
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| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: i think that's because the network mtu gets set to 1450, so all elements inherit the value | 14:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in this case there's two different networks... one vxlan, and one vlan, no? | 14:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so each network should have a respective mtu value for its components | 14:07 |
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| frickler | Sam-I-Am: yes, but this isn't applied currently | 14:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | curious whats in your config | 14:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | devstack usually doesnt use the right options | 14:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] unify portbinding for normal and dvr ports https://review.openstack.org/326987 | 14:10 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: maybe it's time to kill devstack since it's creating all these bugs :) | 14:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: lol | 14:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'd be game for that | 14:11 |
| njohnston | rewrite devstack in go | 14:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | i find the networking in it just contains a bunch of hacks that dont necessarily validate 'modern' ways to config neutron | 14:12 |
| haleyb | in a "real" deployment the data plane should be jumbo, so that we have 1500 for all the tenant networks, and avoid this mtu crap | 14:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | njohnston: excellent idea. i'll post to the ML. | 14:12 |
| njohnston | Sam-I-Am: +100! | 14:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: well, in mitaka+, that problem is fixed | 14:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can even use jumbo frames all the way to instances now | 14:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | but unraveling years of mtu hacking has proven difficult | 14:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | none of those solutions actually resolving the real problem | 14:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | and many of them baking themselves into deployment tools like pupper | 14:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | puppet | 14:13 |
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| frickler | well, if I had all vxlan networks with MTU 9000 and need one vlan network for the outside, I'd still have the same issue. running everything at 1500 should be fine, though | 14:15 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: maybe stating the obvious, but what we want is for the internal network mtu of a neutron router interface to be the same as the external network mtu - having that 1500/1450 is sucky enough | 14:16 |
| haleyb | i think we just agreed | 14:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: yeah... except what happens if something actually tries to send you a packet at that 'jumboer' size? | 14:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | frickler: so you have a router namespace with 1 qg and 2 qrs, each qr belonging to a different self-service network type? | 14:20 |
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| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: it should get fragmented at the sender, or dropped. 1500 is the standard no matter how much we want to deny it. Jumbo should only be used for intra-network traffic - i.e. web server to db backend (imho) | 14:21 |
| haleyb | or intra-datacenter | 14:21 |
| frickler | Sam-I-Am: in fact I was having two routers, not connected to each other, except they are hosted on the same node | 14:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: lets say you're using 1550 on the physical net so vms using vxlan can use 1500. as long as no packet larger than 1500 enters that phys net, you should be fine. so that implies some sort of l3 device between the internets (assuming 1500 mtu) and your dc network (1550) | 14:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | frickler: ok, so one router for the vxlan net, one for the vlan net? | 14:23 |
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| Swami | obondarev: ping | 14:23 |
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| obondarev | Swami: hi! | 14:24 |
| frickler | Sam-I-Am: right | 14:24 |
| Swami | obondarev: I did you see your comments on the patch regarding the fix for the regression. | 14:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | frickler: so whats ip netns show inside those namespaces? | 14:24 |
| Swami | obondarev: I had one question. | 14:24 |
| obondarev | Swami: yep | 14:24 |
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| Swami | obondarev: you mentioned that when the gw-port is deleted from the router when the agent was down. How do to reproduce it. or what are the steps to reproduce it. | 14:25 |
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| obondarev | Swami: ah, it’s simple, turn off l3 agent on the node hosting snat for router, make sure router is rescheduled to another node, delete router ext gw, turn on l3 agent from step 1 | 14:27 |
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| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: in my case I'm assuming the DC network default external VLAN (Internet-facing) is 1500. The intra-node VLAN used for the data plane is 1550 or higher, so it's only used for VM traffic. | 14:27 |
| haleyb | and it's not visible to the tenant | 14:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: that works | 14:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | assuming you only need 1500-ish mtu to vms | 14:28 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: but i also want to support a jumbo network, but perhaps that should only live within the confines of neutron, when it needs to get routed external you run into trouble with mtu again | 14:29 |
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| Swami | obondarev: are you deleting the router external gateway port manually or doing router_gateway_clear on the router. | 14:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | as long as the mtu change occurs in a router, you should be fine with any values | 14:30 |
| obondarev | Swami: second | 14:30 |
| Swami | obondarev: ok will check it out. | 14:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | the problem prior to mitaka was mtu changes occuring at layer 2, which causes packets to drop | 14:30 |
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| obondarev | Swami: do you think we should block revert? | 14:31 |
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| Swami | obondarev: yes, I think we should block the revert and proceed with this patch to fix it. | 14:32 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: just that typically there aren't mtu changes across the internet, but yes, a router should handle it. anyways, i'm guessing we're tripping over one of these problems here - not separating network elements properly so the mtu details are "leaking" between them for lack of a better explanatiaon | 14:32 |
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| Swami | obondarev: I am confident that we can address all the cases with this patch. | 14:32 |
| obondarev | Swami: I’d say we should fix high priority issue asap | 14:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: yeah, thats why i'd like to see output | 14:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | and better understand the topo | 14:32 |
| obondarev | Swami: it’s a regression in stable branches | 14:32 |
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| Swami | obondarev: yes | 14:33 |
| Swami | obondarev: agreed. | 14:33 |
| frickler | Sam-I-Am: I'm was rebuilding the stack, almost done | 14:33 |
| Swami | obondarev: do you see any other issues with this patch. | 14:33 |
| obondarev | Swami: I don’t see anything wrong with reverting, then preparing well tested patch for stale namespaces with no rush | 14:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | frickler: i'd like to see the config, and then the mtu of all interfaces (including on the host and inside namespaces) | 14:35 |
| Swami | obondarev: it's your call. | 14:35 |
| Swami | obondarev: either way is fine for me. | 14:35 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: thanks for taking a look, it will be worthy of another summit talk :) i'll try and keep engaged in the discussion between meetings, but you probably need to loop-in kevin as well | 14:35 |
| obondarev | Swami: thanks, will you please reevaluate https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326574/ then? | 14:36 |
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| Swami | obondarev: done | 14:38 |
| obondarev | Swami: thanks! | 14:39 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: that's a solid piece of code indeed | 14:42 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: I left some comments | 14:42 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: thanks | 14:42 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: you wrote most of it :d | 14:42 |
| ihrachys | hm. not really, there is a lot of base class work done | 14:43 |
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| frickler | Sam-I-Am: http://paste.openstack.org/show/508948 and http://paste.openstack.org/show/508950 | 14:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: FWaaS v2 Database https://review.openstack.org/311159 | 14:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: Check for snat_namespace existence before add or delete https://review.openstack.org/300358 | 14:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | frickler: pondering | 14:53 |
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| krypto | i am having a strange situation where router status is shown as alive :) but namespace is missing from network node.i have "allow_automatic_l3agent_failover = False" any idea? | 15:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: tests: added sorting/pagination api tests for subnetpools https://review.openstack.org/327081 | 15:01 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: replied, something to consider there. | 15:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/324838 | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/324839 | 15:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | frickler: did you try setting path_mtu to 1500? looks like its 0 in your config. shouldn't matter, but its something to check. | 15:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | frickler: also, looking at your output, what network bits are plugged into router 7c2e3d62 ? | 15:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Add index on trunk_id in the subports model https://review.openstack.org/326689 | 15:15 |
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| frickler | Sam-I-Am: that is the default router created by devstack, connected to public and private | 15:16 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: I have new PS ready but updating the tenant_id | 15:17 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: I still wonder whether we need to be explicit there about it | 15:17 |
| jlibosva | also wonder whether we have it covered by api test | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | HenryG: Would you mind reading Armando's comment about an inline change to the model (without migration) on this review ^^ | 15:18 |
| frickler | Sam-I-Am: those are both created with network_type=vxlan and have mtu=1450 | 15:18 |
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| frickler | Sam-I-Am: I'll be away for a bit now, will try the path_mtu later | 15:19 |
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| HenryG | carl_baldwin: Will do. I remember discussing something similar on this model with Armando some time back. | 15:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | frickler: ohhh... whats external_network_bridge set to in the l3 agent config? | 15:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | frickler: also whats the output of neutron net-show external (or whatever the devstack ext net is called) | 15:23 |
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| ihrachys | korzen__: tiny concern on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326477/1 (dns server), otherwise looks good | 15:24 |
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| ihrachys | korzen__: I saw grenade multinode failed, nice job :) | 15:25 |
| frickler | Sam-I-Am: http://paste.openstack.org/show/508958 | 15:25 |
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| dasm | ihrachys: i believe, first time i see someone, who is glad that job is failing :D | 15:26 |
| ihrachys | dasm: that's by intent | 15:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | frickler: yeah, there's your problem. | 15:26 |
| dasm | ihrachys: yeah, i noticed it before. but still... the situation is funny :P | 15:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | frickler: devstack is doing Bad and Wrong :) | 15:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | frickler: is this a recent pull of devstack, or older? | 15:27 |
| frickler | Sam-I-Am: fresh from yesterday | 15:27 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: you are right, I am lunatic | 15:28 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: I added an API test for that | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: heil to you! | 15:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: objects: switch base plugin class to using subnetpool object https://review.openstack.org/300056 | 15:29 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: ^^ there it goes :) | 15:29 |
| ihrachys | speedy Jakub | 15:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | frickler: whats happening here... devstack is creating your public/ext net as type vxlan, even though it isn't, hence getting an mtu of 1450 rather than 1500. | 15:30 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: not that you're the author so we'll probably need HenryG to look at it as well | 15:30 |
| jlibosva | note* | 15:30 |
| ihrachys | yeah, just realized that | 15:30 |
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| HenryG | ihrachys: jlibosva: which one? | 15:31 |
| jlibosva | HenryG: We would like to ask all of you to help ensure Red Hat is well represented at the show! | 15:31 |
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| frickler | Sam-I-Am: well, in that case it should not matter, because the vlan router is not connected to either public or private | 15:32 |
| jlibosva | what? | 15:32 |
| jlibosva | HenryG: I didn't write that :D | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | WAT | 15:32 |
| jlibosva | I copied the link | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | smells like some proprietary data leaked!!! | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | :) | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: https://review.openstack.org/300056 | 15:32 |
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| jlibosva | that was weird. I can't paste it here but when I paste it to browser I have the correct link :-/ | 15:33 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: also prerequisite adding test coverage for Pager is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327081/ | 15:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Imran Hayder Malik proposed openstack/neutron: Fix designate dns driver for SSL based endpoints https://review.openstack.org/326958 | 15:34 |
| ihrachys | those two will give us base plugin doing objects for pools | 15:34 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: I realized I forgot to add DependsOn | 15:34 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: there are pieces in l3, are you covering those? | 15:35 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: as a follow up obviously | 15:35 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: what do you mean? | 15:35 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: http://paste.openstack.org/show/508960/ | 15:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | frickler: did you read http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/neutron.html ? | 15:36 |
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| ihrachys | ah wait | 15:37 |
| ihrachys | maybe those are false flags | 15:37 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: in SubnetAllocator, in _lock_subnetpool, we fetch hash from the model directly | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | and also update it | 15:38 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: aha | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: Add neutron-dynamic-routing DrAgent & Scheduler document https://review.openstack.org/317844 | 15:40 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: seems like that's actually the only thing | 15:40 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: isn't this CaS part? do we need objects there? | 15:41 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: I think yes. any place that currently uses models will in ideal world do everything thru objects. | 15:42 |
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| ihrachys | I think it's the same pattern: fetch pool, update hash attr, .update() | 15:43 |
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| ihrachys | now, please take it with a grain of salt :) | 15:43 |
| ihrachys | maybe I am totally out of reality | 15:43 |
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| ihrachys | maybe that code just belongs to the object. | 15:45 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: I'm not sure. This seems like a better approach to me - you need to update an old hash with new hash specifically in database, I don't see reason to use objects here | 15:47 |
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| jlibosva | I'm thinking how it will influence live upgrade | 15:47 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: the thing is, if hash field moves somewhere, and we need to handle it smartly without a simple rename, it introduces complexity on CaS too | 15:48 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: and I think we should keep it into the object. | 15:48 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: ok, let's try that | 15:48 |
| ihrachys | otherwise we forget to update that other piece of code, and boom | 15:48 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: ok thanks. but let's do follow up, let's try to land what we have quicker | 15:49 |
| jlibosva | ok | 15:49 |
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| carl_baldwin | HenryG: ^ I broke out the possibly controversial inline model change in to this new patch | 16:02 |
| mestery | sc68cal: Regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214350/, sorry I don't have time to debug further to understand the config file failure | 16:02 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: something like ^^ ? | 16:12 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: should we extend update() to allow where= argument? | 16:14 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: we would need to start using query there instead of saving model | 16:17 |
| jlibosva | in update_object() in dbapi | 16:18 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: we can distinguish between too cases under the hood | 16:18 |
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| sc68cal | mestery: no problem | 16:32 |
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| garyk | sc68cal: hi, qucik question - do you have offhand the patch that moves away from neutron-legacy. | 17:53 |
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| sc68cal | garyk: under what context? project-config, devstack-gate? | 18:11 |
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| garyk | sc68cal: devstack | 18:13 |
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| sc68cal | garyk: my plan is to update project-config and devstack-gate to use neutron-* | 18:15 |
| sc68cal | then eventually delete lib/neutron-legacy | 18:15 |
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| garyk | sc68cal: i understand that i just want to make sure that decomposed prject do not break when you do this | 18:17 |
| garyk | we need to make sure that people have enough time to do this | 18:17 |
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| sc68cal | garyk: indeed. I don't have a patch up that deletes neutron-legacy. I imagine it'll be some time before that happens | 18:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: BGP dynamic routing CLI https://review.openstack.org/323132 | 18:21 |
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| garyk | sc68cal: ok. understood | 18:24 |
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| slaweq | garyk: hello | 20:09 |
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| slaweq | can You help me with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325644 | 20:10 |
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| slaweq | or maybe someone else who knows well rbac can take a look on that and on my comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325644/4/neutron/objects/rbac_db.py | 20:11 |
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| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: tidwellr: ping | 20:31 |
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| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: pong | 20:44 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: Was wondering if you have had your eye on the test results of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292207 | 20:44 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: I'm looking through some of the jenkins failures in pavel_bondar 's patch that he rebased to it. | 20:45 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: So far, I haven't made much sense of them. | 20:45 |
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| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: 292207 seems to be passing | 20:46 |
| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: but I haven't rechecked it much | 20:46 |
| carl_baldwin | I just did. I'm actually pretty confident with that one but then pavel_bondar 's patch has had more failures than successes. | 20:47 |
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| tidwellr | are you talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181023/? | 20:49 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: yes | 20:51 |
| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: I see the last recheck had some success | 20:53 |
| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: do you have a link to a stack trace? | 20:54 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: The previous 7 rechecks before that all failed. I haven't found any smoking guns but that alone is a little bit concerning. | 20:55 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: I'll keep looking in to this a bit to see if I see any correlation. In the meantime, recheck it if you see it isn't running in the check queue. This is one we need a lot of data on. It would be great if it passes a lot more going forward. | 20:57 |
| tidwellr | recheck both or 181023? | 20:57 |
| tidwellr | I can do both | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Nate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: FWaaS v2 Database https://review.openstack.org/311159 | 20:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: I found something that seems to be unique to this patch set. | 21:01 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: http://logstash.openstack.org/#dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message%3A%5C%22u'SAVEPOINT%20sa_savepoint_2%20does%20not%20exist'%5C%22 | 21:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: It appears in logs/screen-q-svc.txt in multiple rechecks of this patch set. It only appears on this patch set. | 21:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: Here is an example of a trackback: http://paste.openstack.org/show/509028/ | 21:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: It looks like it does correlate with an actual test failure: http://paste.openstack.org/show/509029/ | 21:07 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: The good news is that I see the same failure on PS80 which was before rebasing to your change. That actually gives me some confidence in your patch. | 21:13 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: I've changed to +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292207 | 21:15 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: Great work on that patch. I know it was a hard one. | 21:16 |
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| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: brave man giving that a +2, here we go! :) | 21:17 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: No guts no glory. | 21:17 |
| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: we're leaping off the cliff now :) | 21:17 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: Seriously though, I think we've given this patch set *a lot* of extra care and due diligence. There is a point where you've got to pull the trigger and merge it. | 21:18 |
| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: agreed, finding bugs is unfortunately part of doing business, you can't let fear of bugs block progress forever | 21:19 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: I feel pretty good about it. Let's see if we can get it approved. | 21:20 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin, tidwellr: yo | 21:48 |
| kevinbenton | "the mac address None is in use" | 21:48 |
| kevinbenton | should be gone | 21:48 |
| kevinbenton | with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322626/ | 21:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: we saw it for a different reason, I think. | 21:52 |
| tidwellr | kevinbenton: yes, different reason | 21:53 |
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| kevinbenton | tidwellr, carl_baldwin: what was it? | 21:53 |
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| kevinbenton | because it was on an update | 21:55 |
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| kevinbenton | and it looks like it was because it leaked the mutated dictionary into the retry | 21:55 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: That patch adds the random window for IP allocation, right? So, there is a chance that two allocations try to grab the same IP and a duplicate entry exception would be thrown which should restart one of them. | 21:55 |
| kevinbenton | yes | 21:56 |
| kevinbenton | which would lead to the bug that patch i linked if it was an update operation | 21:56 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: So, the operation right before that mac address duplication check is where the new IP allocation is inserted. But, it wasn't flushed. So, the duplicate wasn't detected until that mac address code flushed it. | 21:56 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: So, I added this flush: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292207/23/neutron/db/db_base_plugin_common.py | 21:57 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: The mac address None is in use error disappeared when I added that. | 21:57 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: Then, the duplicate entry exception properly bubbled up to trigger the retry mechanism. | 21:58 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: "The mac address None" means that the port data had bogus info in it | 21:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Enable CRUD for trunk ports https://review.openstack.org/320092 | 21:59 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: calling flush may have changed timing to avoid retries, but i don't see how it could have changed the mac address field being None | 22:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/324838 | 22:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/324839 | 22:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/323074 | 22:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/327378 | 22:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/neutron: Filter supported QoS rules with possible parameters https://review.openstack.org/319694 | 22:00 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: Let me find another pointer. | 22:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321840/1/neutron/db/ipam_backend_mixin.py | 22:02 |
| carl_baldwin | Without that flush, the duplicate IP address wouldn't be caught until here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321840/1/neutron/db/ipam_backend_mixin.py | 22:03 |
| carl_baldwin | The code you see here is assuming that DBDuplicateEntry is only thrown for duplicate mac address. But, it was wrong. | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: oh, i see. so the exception is bad | 22:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: It was being raised because of the IP address duplication that was queued up and not detected until the flush right here. | 22:04 |
| xagent | Hi, I have a question regarding multiple external networks w/ 1 L3 Agent. I am no longer setting the "external_network_bridge" to my external OVS bridge. Also, I am now defining a new bridge mapping for my external bridge ID in OVS agent config | 22:04 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: I'm not sure what you mean by "the exception is bad" | 22:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | The exception was good but raising it was delayed to a point in the code which misinterpreted it. | 22:04 |
| xagent | But I now have multiple bridge mappings - physnet:br-data for my regular tenant/provider networks, physnet2, etc.. | 22:05 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: raising duplicate MAC based on duplicate entry | 22:05 |
| xagent | and also a phyext:br-ext for my external bridge | 22:05 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: is wrong | 22:05 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: Ah, yes, that too presumptuous. | 22:05 |
| xagent | before when creating tenant networks I wasn't specifying the mapping. i just want it to go on any available physnet | 22:05 |
| carl_baldwin | s/that/that is/ | 22:05 |
| xagent | now, how do i prevent it from getting on the external bridge mapping? | 22:06 |
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| kevinbenton | xagent: using vlan networks? | 22:08 |
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| xagent | yes | 22:08 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: this dup detection is problematic because a flush doesn't really guaruntee anything since the transaction is still open... | 22:08 |
| kevinbenton | uncommitted | 22:08 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: ml2_type_vlan config section | 22:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Brandon Logan proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: handle single fields query parameter https://review.openstack.org/327394 | 22:09 |
| xagent | Not sure I follow? | 22:09 |
| xagent | my assumption was before, if i have multiple physnet mappings (physnet1, physnet2, physnet3) with VLAN ranges, and i create a tenant network, it just goes on the next available one. when i don't specify the provider:physical_network | 22:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brandon Logan proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: handle single fields query parameter https://review.openstack.org/327394 | 22:10 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: one sec, checking something | 22:10 |
| xagent | now that i've adding a mapping for my external bridge, i want tenant networks to go on any, except the one for ext networks | 22:10 |
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| kevinbenton | xagent: i think you can define an empty range | 22:12 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: IIRC | 22:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Brandon Logan proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: handle single fields query parameter https://review.openstack.org/327394 | 22:13 |
| blogan | kevinbenton: ^^ | 22:13 |
| xagent | empty range for which mapping? | 22:14 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: Are you saying that the duplicate error exception could still be deferred until the final commit? I guess that might be true. | 22:15 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: for the external physnet | 22:15 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: so just don't define a range for it | 22:16 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: just put the physnet name by itself | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: Add exists method to namespace class to check https://review.openstack.org/326729 | 22:16 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: that will prevent neutron from automatically allocating from it | 22:16 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: I should say "deferred to any point up to the final commit" | 22:16 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: then only an admin that explicitly specifies the vlan segmentation ID | 22:16 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: can use the external physnet | 22:16 |
| xagent | So I create a tenant network, and don't speicfy any provider mapping - it'll go on physnet1, physnet2, etc.. exhausting it's VLAN ranges | 22:17 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: so once it flushes, i think we are guarunteed that the mac is unique for the rest of the transaction operations | 22:17 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: until commit | 22:17 |
| xagent | but when i create an external network, I can specify an exact VLAN ID and give the provider mapping, this will work? | 22:17 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: yep | 22:18 |
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| kevinbenton | xagent: just tested locally | 22:18 |
| xagent | What about if i create a flat external network (just specify the provider:physical_network) and router:external=true? | 22:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: Add exists method to namespace class to check https://review.openstack.org/326729 | 22:18 |
| xagent | this would also work and go on my special physnet-ext ? | 22:18 |
| xagent | thanks, let me try that out... | 22:19 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: i believe so. i don't think there is anything that blocks a flat and vlan sharing a physnet | 22:19 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: but you'll have to try it and let me know | 22:19 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: I'm a little confused. That's what I thought originally but then you said it doesn't really guarantee anything. I'm not sure what you're saying. | 22:19 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: i'm saying we have to catch duplicates at commit time | 22:20 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: (i.e. when the context manager exits and COMMIT is sent to the DB) | 22:20 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: because we can get a duplicate at either point | 22:20 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: either immediately when the INSERT statement is sent to the DB | 22:20 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: Did you mean to say "i think we *aren't* guaranteed the the mac in unique for the rest ..." ? | 22:20 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: or at COMMIT | 22:21 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: or at flush | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: i meant to say that for the rest of the transaction, we don't have to worry about dbduplicate | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: from the mac | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: until commit time | 22:21 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: or, someone else issues a flush. | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: "at flush" == "carl_baldwin: either immediately when the INSERT statement is sent to the DB | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | kevinbenton: Did you mean to say "i think we *aren't* guaranteed the the mac in unique for the rest ..." ?" | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | (ignore second message) | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | wow my irc client garbled that | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | "at flush" == " immediately when the INSERT statement is sent to the DB" | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | we don't have to worry about other flushes | 22:22 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: I think I'm following now. | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | once we have sent the INSERT statement with the mac to the db | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | if it doesn't raise duplicate then, we are safe until commit time | 22:23 |
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| kevinbenton | then we have to catch duplicate there as well i believe | 22:23 |
| kevinbenton | because that's a normal constraint failure, not a weird one that will manifest as a deadlock | 22:24 |
| carl_baldwin | Are you thinking that maybe a galera cluster might defer it until commit time when it certifies the commit? | 22:24 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: not even galera if the port table isn't locked | 22:25 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: do we lock the port table? | 22:25 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: So, now the problem is that we might have a DBDuplicate for different reasons. Some reasons should trigger a retry and some should throw a new exception and abort the operation. | 22:25 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: right, but the dup can show up much later as well at commit | 22:26 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: definitely with galera | 22:26 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: and maybe without galera if we don't still lock the port table | 22:26 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: We'll need code at about the same level as the retry decorator that has the ability to distinguish between failure modes. | 22:27 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm now wondering what data the exception carries with it. | 22:27 |
| carl_baldwin | ... and how easy it will be to match it back to a failure mode. | 22:27 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: maybe we should just look for the mac in the DB ahead of time to look for duplicates | 22:28 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: then treat and DBDublicate errors as retriable | 22:28 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: to handle the case where there is a race with duplicate macs | 22:29 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: because we already treat other duplicates as retry (https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/plugin.py#L1104) | 22:29 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: basically it would be the same as IPAM in that regard | 22:29 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: check for duplicate, if clear, try to use | 22:30 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: if exception, try again | 22:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: DO NOT MERGE: Allocate IP addresses backwards to flush out tests reliant on sequential allocation https://review.openstack.org/312655 | 22:30 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: that'd work | 22:31 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: I'll cook it up | 22:31 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: Let me know when you have it. | 22:34 |
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| xagent | kevinbenton: If I do not specify any VLAN ranges for my external physnet, do I list the mapping in ml2_type_vlan or ml2_type_flat? My external networks themselves may be VLAN based | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: both if you want to be able to use both types | 22:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | xagent: provider nets can use arbitrary vlan ids outside of the ml2_type_vlan range | 22:39 |
| xagent | ah, I can have same bridge/mapping name in both sections? didnt know that | 22:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | provider/external physnet | 22:39 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: yes, covered that further up the backlog :) | 22:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | the ranges only apply to self-service/project networks | 22:39 |
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| kevinbenton | xagent: by default you can have any arbitary flat network | 22:40 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: so you don't even need to define the physnet in ml2_type_flat if 'flat_networks' is left as the default * | 22:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | still needs a mapping tho, no? | 22:41 |
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| kevinbenton | you mean a bridge_mappings entry? | 22:41 |
| kevinbenton | should already have one for when it was a vlan physnet | 22:41 |
| kevinbenton | but yeah, it needs one | 22:41 |
| kevinbenton | on the agent | 22:42 |
| xagent | gotcha, so I shall have "physnet-ext:br-ext" in both ml2_type flat and vlan sections for my bridge_mappings | 22:42 |
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| kevinbenton | xagent: bridge_mappings go on the agent under the OVS section. you don't need any bridge_mappings in the ML2 conf | 22:42 |
| xagent | for network_vlan_ranges in ml2_type_flat, I shall just specify "physnet-ext" without a range | 22:42 |
| kevinbenton | xagent: yep | 22:43 |
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| kevinbenton | xagent: so something like network_vlan_ranges=tenant_phys:1000:1500,physnet-ext | 22:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1590397 ? | 22:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1590397 in neutron "MTU setting too low when mixing Vlan and Vxlan" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Manikantha Srinivas Tadi (manikantha-tadi) | 22:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the title is a bit misleading | 22:44 |
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| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: no, hadn't yet | 22:44 |
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| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: so this is the OVS bridge MTU? | 22:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, also misleading. i think the original report thought it might be ovs bridge mtu. | 22:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think that was actually mislead to by a devstack misconfig | 22:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, the post after i said how to config devstack is more interesting. clear gateway, set gateway... mtu does not restore to 1500. | 22:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | should be easy to reproduce if its a thing | 22:48 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: can you see if you can repro it? | 22:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | doing that now | 22:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: cant repro, qg comes back up as 1500 or 9000 | 23:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and ovs int mtu still doesnt seem to matter | 23:08 |
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| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: hmmm | 23:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | still running more tests | 23:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | somehow borked my system | 23:17 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: ack | 23:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: dunno what i did, but it'll wait until tomorrow when my brain is less melty | 23:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Preemptive MAC dup detection with retry https://review.openstack.org/327413 | 23:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Brandon Logan proposed openstack/neutron: Add segment_id to DHCP Agent Network Bindings https://review.openstack.org/326261 | 23:33 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: ^~1 | 23:34 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: sounds good | 23:34 |
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