Monday, 2016-06-13

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kevinbentonmriedem: around?00:14
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mriedemkevinbenton: yeah, for a short bit00:45
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kevinbentonmriedem: can you check my comment on that bug?00:45
kevinbentonmriedem: it sounds like we made a bit of a bad assumption about how nova would interact with auto allocate00:45
kevinbentonmriedem: mainly, is it feasible to have nova use GET auto allocate to find the network it should use?00:46
mriedemkevinbenton: nova is calling the auto-allocate api to create the network, and then creating a port in that network00:47
mriedemthe failing test is just tempest asserting that there is a single network for the tenant00:47
mriedemso i mean we can workaround that in tempest i guess, or document it as a limitation,00:48
mriedembut what is cleaning up http://logs.openstack.org/01/327901/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/9972b81/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz#_2016-06-12_14_46_57_349 ?00:48
mriedema periodic task or something?00:48
mriedembecause i'm guessing the 2 servers have ports on different networks here, which is going to be the weird part for the actual tenant user00:48
kevinbentonno, auto allocate will immediately detect after creating00:49
kevinbentonand delete the second one00:49
mriedemand return the first?00:49
kevinbentonyeah00:49
kevinbentonso as long as they are using the responses from that they are safe00:49
mriedemok, i guess if i can assert that the ports for the servers are in that one and only network, then i think i could live with it00:49
kevinbentonthere is just a small window where something doing net-list will see the temporary one00:49
mriedemyeah nova is totally using the net_id returned from auto-allocate00:50
mriedemyup, and that's tempest right now00:50
mriedemalthough,00:50
kevinbentonmriedem: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/services/auto_allocate/db.py#L295-L30700:50
mriedemwe could still have a race in nova when it's listing available networks for the tenant, it could get 2 back in this case, and pick the wrong one00:50
kevinbentonmriedem: ah, is the decision process like "list networks, if none use auto allocate" ?00:51
mriedemyup00:51
mriedemsec00:51
mriedemin here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316275/12/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py@53600:51
mriedemwe look for private tenant-owned networks or public shared networks, and if that's empty we call auto-allocate00:52
kevinbentonhmmm00:52
mriedembut if we had 3 concurrent requests, 1st creates the network via auto-allocate, 2nd calls auto at the same time, creates a 2nd network, hits that error and returns the first, but the 3rd calls get_available_networks and gets 2 networks back00:52
mriedemoh in that case nova will fail00:53
kevinbentonyep00:53
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/316275/12/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py@57400:53
mriedemnova will see there is more than 1 but none were specified, and say it's ambiguous00:53
kevinbentongo into a sleep and retry loop 60 times :)00:53
mriedemgah00:54
kevinbentonok i'll see what we can do00:54
mriedemwell, how would you know which network is the real one to use, i.e. the first created?00:54
mriedemis there any difference in status?00:54
mriedemor would the 2nd not have a subnet or something?00:54
kevinbentonno, we can certainly use a different status though00:54
kevinbentonwould you be willing to filter on the status?00:54
kevinbentonignore networks in ALLOCATING state or something?00:55
kevinbentonmriedem: let me chat with armax when he's online00:56
kevinbentonmriedem: we still have some other options00:56
kevinbentonmriedem: just requires more logic on the neutron side00:56
mriedemthat might be an option. it'd be preferable to do any filtering when listing networks up front, rather than after we're in the NetworkAmbiguous block00:57
mriedemi'll add some notes to the bug report too00:58
kevinbentonmriedem: yeah, i was just thinking nova could automatically exclude ALLOCATING networks or even DOWN networks in all automatic selection like this00:58
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kevinbentonmriedem: but it does kinda suck because its dealing with what should be neutron's responsibility01:00
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mriedemthe other thing would be,01:01
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mriedemif that 3 server scenario above, would the 'real' network's status be ALLOCATING too, or only the 2nd bad one - seems like there would still be a window there01:01
mriedemif the first and second networks were both allocating at the same time, then the 3rd request would get nothing back and call auto and possibly create a 3rd new bad network01:02
mriedemidk01:02
kevinbentonyeah01:02
kevinbentonlet's avoid that for now01:02
mriedemthis is probably part of the reason why armax wanted nova-api to just auto-allocate up front before casting off to the compute to build the port(s), but we pushed back on that because we don't want to block nova-api on external calls01:03
kevinbentonyeah01:03
kevinbentondefinitely why :)01:03
kevinbentontrying to bury the poop under the rug01:03
mriedemheh01:03
mriedemthere is always the squish and the smell i guess01:03
mriedemanyway, notes are in the bug report, i'm going to sign off (8pm for me here and it's been a long day outside)01:04
mriedemkevinbenton: thanks for checking into that though01:04
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kevinbentonok, i have the info i need to think about this more01:04
kevinbentonmriedem: thx01:04
kevinbentonmriedem: ttyl01:04
mriedemi was sooo close to having this done and ready to go :)01:04
mriedemyup, np, later01:04
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openstackgerritNam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/neutron: Preventing overlap CIDR on *one* network in case neutron active-active  https://review.openstack.org/31405401:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Fixes variable name confusion  https://review.openstack.org/32871101:25
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/32483801:50
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openstackgerritNam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/neutron: Avoiding created multiple gateway ports on *one* router gateway  https://review.openstack.org/32380701:53
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openstackgerritAradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Refactoring config options for agent  https://review.openstack.org/32419101:59
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openstackgerritYang Yu proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Update the bgp-peer-create CLI  https://review.openstack.org/32318202:25
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HenryGkevinbenton: Thanks for investigating and answering the auto-allocation issue for Matt.02:38
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openstackgerritbin proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor DNS integration out of DB core plugin  https://review.openstack.org/31329103:28
openstackgerritAradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Refactoring config options for agent  https://review.openstack.org/32419103:30
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openstackgerritYang Yu proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fixed --insecure not taking effect when specified  https://review.openstack.org/27340804:08
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openstackgerritNam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/neutron: Preventing overlap CIDR on *one* network in case neutron active-active  https://review.openstack.org/31405404:53
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openstackgerritAradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Refactoring config options for agent  https://review.openstack.org/32419105:10
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openstackgerritHong Hui Xiao proposed openstack/neutron: Mark dhcp port as ready after enabling dhcp at agent  https://review.openstack.org/32706206:06
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/32859206:24
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Remove POT file  https://review.openstack.org/32886106:32
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openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Pecan: Implement pagination  https://review.openstack.org/32854206:39
openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: move fields and filters logic to hooks  https://review.openstack.org/32886306:39
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/neutron: Use neutron-lib constants  https://review.openstack.org/32886406:40
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openstackgerritHong Hui Xiao proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor update_segment_host_mapping_for_agent for agentless topology  https://review.openstack.org/32248607:12
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: objects: Add filter query hook to NeutronDbObject  https://review.openstack.org/32830407:23
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: qos: fix shared filter for policies  https://review.openstack.org/32831307:23
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openstackgerritIWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed openstack/neutron: DO NOT MERGE: A hack to measure ovs flow installation times  https://review.openstack.org/26790507:37
openstackgerritIWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed openstack/neutron: DO NOT MERGE: benchmark RPC get_devices_details_list_and_failed_devices  https://review.openstack.org/32888107:37
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openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: Add bgp speaker and route advertisement doc  https://review.openstack.org/31853208:05
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zigoI get loads of unit test failures when trying to build Neutron Newton b1: https://newton-xenial.pkgs.mirantis.com/job/neutron/6/consoleFull08:29
zigoCould someone help me to fix that?08:29
zigoWhat's weird, is that it seems working well in Jessie.08:29
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ihrachysjlibosva: I will update the hooks patch with cleanup08:44
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ihrachysin a sec08:45
jlibosvaihrachys: have you seen my comment?08:45
ihrachysnope, lemme check08:45
jlibosvaihrachys: I wonder whether it's worth to check hook per every model/object we have08:45
ihrachysjlibosva: probably not08:45
jlibosvaihrachys: unless the hook is somehow overriden I think it would make sense to separate it from  BaseDbObjectTestCase08:45
ihrachyslemme upload what I have, and you will follow up with a separate case for that08:46
jlibosvaihrachys: ack, thanks08:46
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: objects: Add filter query hook to NeutronDbObject  https://review.openstack.org/32830408:46
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: common_db_mixin: added a method to unregister query hooks  https://review.openstack.org/32890608:46
ihrachysjlibosva: ^ note two patches08:46
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openstackgerritSlawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add no-shared option to qos-policy-update command  https://review.openstack.org/32793508:56
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openstackgerritHong Hui Xiao proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add segment as an attribute to subnet in client  https://review.openstack.org/31557308:58
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ajoihrachys, jlibosva have you seen this failure: http://logs.openstack.org/55/328655/1/check/gate-neutron-dsvm-api/fb314a2/console.html#_2016-06-11_20_42_39_022  ?09:10
ajonot sure if related to recent pagination patches09:10
ajoneutron.tests.tempest.api.test_subnetpools.SubnetPoolsSearchCriteriaTest.test_list_pagination_page_reverse_with_href_links09:10
ajo2016-06-11 20:42:39.024 |       File "/opt/stack/new/neutron/neutron/tests/tempest/api/base.py", line 508, in assertSameOrder09:11
ajo2016-06-11 20:42:39.024 |         self.assertEqual(len(original), len(actual))09:11
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jlibosvaajo: yep, it should be fixed by now09:11
ihrachysajo: you should rebase09:11
ajoah nice :D09:11
ihrachysor recheck09:11
ajoihrachys++09:11
ihrachysin gate context09:11
ajojlibosva++09:11
ihrachysthat said, it happened June 11..09:12
ihrachyslemme check line numbers09:12
ajoack09:12
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ihrachysajo: doesn't seem like the fix hit the issue?..09:14
ihrachysline numbers are current09:14
openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Cleanup Liberty to Mitaka upgrade corner cases not necessary anymore  https://review.openstack.org/32326809:14
ihrachyswill dig a bit09:14
ajoihrachys, ack, thank you09:14
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ihrachysajo: I need you to review a lot of ovo stuff :)09:16
ajoihrachys, yeah, things piling up on me ':D sorry, re-send me anything in order of priority, I'll try to handle it ASAP09:17
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ihrachysajo: how about you ping me when you actually have time? not sure it's effective other way around.09:17
ajoihrachys, let's give it a try tomorrow, I'll try to drain most of my queue today09:18
ihrachysok. please do09:18
ihrachysthanks09:18
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: tests: fetch unshared subnetpools only  https://review.openstack.org/32892309:23
ihrachysajo: jlibosva: ^ fix for the api test failure09:23
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* ihrachys is dumb, stumbled on the same issue twice09:24
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ihrachysthough in different places09:24
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openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron-specs: QoS Improved validation mechanism for rules  https://review.openstack.org/32347410:31
ajoihrachys, ack, thanks10:31
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Extend utils create methods to accept check_allow_post  https://review.openstack.org/32894010:43
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ihrachysjlibosva: do you plan to update the patch for hooks, or should I?10:47
slaweqamotoki: hello10:47
jlibosvaihrachys: I will - I also plan to comment10:48
slaweqI changed releasenote in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32793510:48
jlibosvaihrachys: on the first one10:48
slaweqcan You check it once again? :)10:48
amotokislaweq: hi. could you make two bullets into one?10:48
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amotokislaweq: the rendered version can be checked by clicking gate-python-neutronclient-releasenotes of jenkins results.10:49
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amotokislaweq: if you don't mind, i can update it.10:50
openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] unify portbinding for normal and dvr ports  https://review.openstack.org/32698710:50
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slaweqamotoki: ok, doing10:51
ihrachysjlibosva: you want a fixture?10:53
slaweqamotoki: ofcourse You can update it10:53
slaweqit would be easier probably :)10:53
amotokislaweq: we always honor the authorship of the original author :-)10:53
jlibosvaihrachys: I was thinking about separating the method that tests filter hook outside of BaseDbObjectTestCase10:54
jlibosvaihrachys: I'll send a patch soon10:54
slaweqfor me it's not problem, You can change it if You want10:54
ihrachysjlibosva: what does it buy us?10:54
ihrachysjlibosva: I mean, I am ok with moving out10:54
ihrachysjlibosva: but it does not solve the issue of polution10:54
jlibosvaihrachys: we will use custom model and object10:55
ihrachysjlibosva: and?..10:55
ihrachysjlibosva: you still will need to register the hook on common_db_mixin10:55
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jlibosvaihrachys: oh, I see. you mean it will still remain in common_db_mixin dict10:55
ihrachysyes10:55
ihrachysthat's the goal of my patch, avoiding that10:56
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jlibosvaihrachys: I missed that10:57
jlibosvaihrachys: then maybe either moving the function to tests?10:57
jlibosvaihrachys: or the fixture - which would be probably more elegant10:57
ihrachysjlibosva: I am ok-ish, not that I agree that it's needed.10:58
ihrachysHenryG was planning to move the code into neutron-lib10:58
openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add no-shared option to qos-policy-update command  https://review.openstack.org/32793510:58
ihrachysso probably a fixture is a better deal10:58
ihrachysok, let me spend a cycle on writing a fixture11:00
jlibosvaihrachys: I can take over if you are busy11:00
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ihrachysjlibosva: I would love11:00
ihrachysI mean, if you take over11:00
ihrachysjlibosva: thanks11:01
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namnhamuller: Are you free? If yes, please review my patch set: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314054/ .In this patch, I had a function to detect overlap IPv6. Thanks Mr.Assaf11:12
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openstackgerritHong Hui Xiao proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add segment as an attribute to subnet in client  https://review.openstack.org/31557311:29
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ihrachysHenryG: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328923/11:45
ihrachysHenryG: it reminds me the definition of insanity11:46
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mosheleandreas_s: hi11:48
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andreas_smoshele, hi11:53
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mosheleandreas_s: regarding allowed_address_pairs comment  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320562/11:54
mosheleandreas_s:  so as I see most of the use case is to add another ip address to the port11:54
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mosheleandreas_s: in what case will I add another mac?11:55
andreas_smoshele, ok. I must admit I don't know! Just saw in the docs that one can define arbitrary mappings...11:56
mosheleandreas_s: This feature make sene when using vip and you want to add it to you port, but the vip mac is the same as the interface mac11:57
mosheleandreas_s:  also this redhat link https://access.redhat.com/solutions/2086033 address this feature as "Using Neutron's allowed-address-pairs feature to allow multiple IP addresses per interface for an Openstack instance"11:58
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andreas_smoshele, yeah, found that link as well...11:59
mosheleandreas_s: so I don't know how to address it because I do know the use case. So I just for know to ignore it and if some find that is is broken we can address it as a bug11:59
andreas_sihrachys, do you know by chance, is there a use case for the allowed address pair extension where you would define an mac other than the ports own mac?12:01
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/neutron: Use method get_ipv6_addr_by_EUI64 from oslo.utils  https://review.openstack.org/32897612:01
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andreas_sthe docs indicate that this is possible, but the use case is not clear to us right now...12:02
ihrachysandreas_s: maybe you want to allow traffic from ports unknown to neutron?12:03
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mosheleihrachys: how can I create port which  unknown to neutron for a vm?12:03
andreas_sihrachys, hhmm. So for example for kvm on kvm?12:05
mosheleandreas_s: ok I see12:05
ihrachysmoshele: you may have your instance running on a domain that is external, right? I guess in that case the extension will allow you to receive traffic that uses some other IP address and that is sent by a physical machine on the domain, or smth. honestly, I don't actually know, just hypothesize12:06
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andreas_smoshele, so what about enabling this in another stage, on request? This would mean just to mention this restriction in the release notes12:10
andreas_sthen it's documtented12:10
andreas_sdocumented12:10
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: objects: Add filter query hook to NeutronDbObject  https://review.openstack.org/32830412:16
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HenryGihrachys: ugh12:20
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slaweqamotoki_: plop12:44
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slaweqcan You maybe W+1 click on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327935/12:44
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amotoki_slaweq: done12:44
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slaweqamotoki_: thx a lot12:45
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: objects: Add filter query hook to NeutronDbObject  https://review.openstack.org/32830412:50
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mosheleandreas_s: ok sound good12:52
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Don't return marker item when paginating backwards  https://review.openstack.org/32899213:01
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Handle no limit in emulated pagination helper  https://review.openstack.org/32899313:01
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: qos: fix shared filter for policies  https://review.openstack.org/32831313:01
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: qos: added api sorting/pagination tests for policies  https://review.openstack.org/32825913:06
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gsagieoferby hello!13:09
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gsagieoferby: thanks for the review on my networking-l2gw patch, i was starting to feel lonely13:10
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: qos: added api sorting/pagination tests for policies  https://review.openstack.org/32825913:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Remove useless str()  https://review.openstack.org/32865713:15
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: qos: support native sorting/pagination for policies and rules  https://review.openstack.org/32827313:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: tests: fetch unshared subnetpools only  https://review.openstack.org/32892313:19
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HenryGihrachys: I have lost my grasp on pagination marker details :(13:27
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ihrachysHenryG: heh. tell me13:27
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: objects: Add filter query hook to NeutronDbObject  https://review.openstack.org/32830413:36
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Make UUID for auto allocated network predictable  https://review.openstack.org/32900613:38
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: qos: fix shared filter for policies  https://review.openstack.org/32831313:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: Add no-shared option to qos-policy-update command  https://review.openstack.org/32793513:41
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/neutron: Remove unit tests for deprecated code  https://review.openstack.org/32900913:45
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openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Use neutron-lib constants  https://review.openstack.org/32886414:03
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openstackgerritJames Anziano proposed openstack/neutron: Added UT for floating ips with dns  https://review.openstack.org/30180914:06
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Don't return marker item when paginating backwards  https://review.openstack.org/32899214:09
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openstackgerritvenkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: multiple port bindings for HA ports  https://review.openstack.org/32331414:10
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ihrachysrossella_s: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328304/14:12
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ihrachyshook mechanism that we kinda depend on to make any progress14:12
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rossella_sihrachys, thanks for pinging me, will review when my meeting ends14:14
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garykihrachys: i really do not understand the object to deleting code that is not used. seriously14:22
garykobject => objection?14:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Cleanup Liberty to Mitaka upgrade corner cases not necessary anymore  https://review.openstack.org/32326814:23
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ihrachysgaryk: it's a stretch of https://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html to python API14:24
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garykihrachys: i think that this may be going to far. who is actually using this code? why are we testing it? whatever. just seems like a waiste of a few cycles for the gating …14:26
ihrachysgaryk: plugins were using it in the past. cisco.14:26
ihrachysgaryk: probably not anymore. but the fact that they did suggests that some other plugins may still do it14:27
garykihrachys: i have not seen anyone using tins. then again i do not look at the cisco plugin14:27
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garykfunny thing is stuff like this is hard to convince and the fact that IP allocation is now random gets in :)14:28
ihrachyssee. the point is, you can't be sure no one uses it.14:28
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garyksee my point…14:28
ihrachyswell, I guess some cores were not attentive enough to let something breaking in14:28
ihrachysnow, let me check who's on the list... oh wait14:29
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ihrachyskevinbenton: ping14:31
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garykihrachys: i think that he is asleep… maybe in a couple of hours.14:31
ihrachysso he sleeps??? those are news to me. ok.14:31
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fricklerso I'm back with yet another MTU issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1592017 regarding the issues with MTU 1450 vs 1500 last week I tried to setup everything to run at 1500, but sadly that does not seem to be possible14:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1592017 in neutron "ML2 uses global MTU for encapsulation calculation" [Undecided,New]14:35
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openstackgerrittonytan4ever proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor NetworkDhcpAgentBinding  https://review.openstack.org/32845214:35
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openstackgerritOmer Anson proposed openstack/neutron: Add support to filter OVSDB columns  https://review.openstack.org/32903114:41
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ihrachysfyi upgrades meeting in #openstack-meeting-alt15:01
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openstackgerritNate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron-specs: L3 Agent Extensions  https://review.openstack.org/31574515:02
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openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] unify portbinding for normal and dvr ports  https://review.openstack.org/32698715:04
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openstackgerritJens Rosenboom proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Only use path_mtu for determining Vxlan MTU  https://review.openstack.org/32904715:09
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openstackgerritJens Rosenboom proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Only use path_mtu for determining Vxlan MTU  https://review.openstack.org/32904715:12
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: Clean stale snat-ns by checking its existence when agent restarts  https://review.openstack.org/32672915:19
Swamicarl_baldwin: haleyb: ^^15:19
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carl_baldwinSwami: ack15:22
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Swamicarl_baldwin: thanks15:24
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openstackgerritJens Rosenboom proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Only use path_mtu for determining Vxlan MTU  https://review.openstack.org/32904715:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Use neutron-lib constants  https://review.openstack.org/32886415:48
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openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Add ml2_port_binding_result table to to unify portbinding for dvr and normal ports  https://review.openstack.org/32698516:05
openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] unify portbinding for normal and dvr ports  https://review.openstack.org/32698716:05
openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Remove vif_type & vif_details from ml2_portbinding table  https://review.openstack.org/32698616:05
tonytan4everkevinbenton: ping16:06
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tonytan4everHi kevin, when you get a chance, can you review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319626/ again ?16:06
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tonytan4everThanks16:14
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openstackgerrittonytan4ever proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor NetworkDhcpAgentBinding  https://review.openstack.org/32845216:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron Stadium Evolution  https://review.openstack.org/31219916:22
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ihrachysfor those who wonder why the heck multinode grenade job fails hard in neutron gate, it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-brick/+bug/1592043 and it's not neutron related16:43
openstackLaunchpad bug 1592043 in os-brick "os-brick 1.4.0 increases volume setup failure rates" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:43
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raildohey guys, any neutron core, can take a look on this patch? I'm creating a job to run neutron funcion17:33
raildothat runs neutron functional tests in a17:33
raildoidentity v3-only devstack, and adds this job to the neutron17:33
raildopipeline.17:33
raildohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/314604/17:34
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openstackgerritIlya Chukhnakov proposed openstack/neutron: Override 'create' for Trunk and SubPort  https://review.openstack.org/32351817:45
amullerraildo: done17:45
raildoamuller: looking, thanks :)17:45
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dasmamuller: thanks for +2 on oslo "thing" :)18:02
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amullerdasm: :)18:03
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sc68calguess nobody wants to bother with fwaas - so everyone goes back to mucking with the SG api eh? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1592005 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/159202818:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1592005 in neutron "[RFE] Security-groups that blocks matched traffic" [Wishlist,Confirmed]18:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1592028 in neutron "[RFE] Support security-group-rule creation with address-groups" [Wishlist,Confirmed]18:24
njohnstonI assume SG change requests are a constant stream18:24
sean-k-mooneysc68cal: my understanding is that ere is alot of overlap between both apis. the key difference being that fwaas operates between networks and SG operates on ports correct?18:25
sc68calin the v1 api. but we spent a year developing a v2 api that was port based18:26
sc68calbut screw that, let's just shove more shit into the security group API18:26
sc68calbecause why not18:26
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sean-k-mooneysc68cal: ah ok so the v2 fwaas api added the ablity to do per neutron firewall rules also so its a superset of the security group api then?18:27
sc68calv1 api had an API extension that allowed you to set a per-router firewall policy instead of global, but yes it was supposed to be a superset18:28
sean-k-mooneys/neutron/neutron port/18:28
amullersc68cal: well, none of those RFEs have been discussed yet in the drivers meeting18:28
amullersc68cal: or anywhere18:28
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amullersc68cal: no need to be gloom just yet!18:28
njohnstonsean-k-mooney: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/newton/fwaas-api-2.0.html for your reading pleasure.  There is a team of 8 or 9 people working on implementing this currently.18:28
sc68calso I guess we're going to continually give a stay of execution to fwaas?18:29
sean-k-mooneynjohnston: thanks :)18:29
sc68caljust keep pushing it off every 6 months?18:29
sc68calI think we should let them turn the SG API into an even bigger mess - and kill of fwaas. Just burn the whole thing down.18:30
amullerI'm sending some pent up frustration :)18:31
njohnstonsc68cal: All I can do is try. :-)18:31
amullersensing*18:31
dasmsc68cal: i think simpler thing is just to `rm -rf openstack/neutron`18:31
* njohnston figured it would be hard to get "Burn it all down" merged into neutron-specs.18:31
sc68caldasm: heh. I'm not that far gone. close though, some days18:31
dasmnjohnston: idea for next April's Fool Day?18:32
dasmsc68cal: sometimes it's worth to start over.. from scratch :)18:32
sc68calnah, Jogo already did that when he left openstack for pinterest18:32
dasm:(18:33
* sean-k-mooney mentions gluon in neturon irc channel and ducks :)18:33
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sc68caloh yeah let's throw out a project with thousands of contributors for like what, ten? tops?18:35
sc68caloh sorry, two18:36
sean-k-mooneysc68cal: atully on a related topic to security groups and fwaas service. has there been any progress towords a common classifier?18:38
sc68calthere's the POC library, but I don't think anyone cares18:39
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sean-k-mooneyhttps://github.com/openstack/neutron-classifier18:40
sean-k-mooneythat one18:40
sc68calyep18:40
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njohnstonI thought davidsha and some of the SFC people were looking at that?18:41
sean-k-mooneyi work with igordcard and he is interested in it. i see value in it too18:41
sean-k-mooneynjohnston: the sfc approch is different18:41
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sean-k-mooneyit is similar to security groups today where the classification is represented as a singel resource18:42
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sean-k-mooneyif i remember correctly https://github.com/openstack/neutron-classifier has typed classifcations18:42
sean-k-mooneysc68cal: is that correct?18:42
sc68calI don't know about the SFC approach18:43
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sc68calall I know is I saw a dictionary called L7 attributes or something like that and i was like, nah.18:44
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sean-k-mooneynetworking sfc classification https://github.com/openstack/networking-sfc/blob/master/networking_sfc/db/flowclassifier_db.py#L50-L7418:45
sean-k-mooneyvs https://github.com/openstack/neutron-classifier/blob/master/neutron_classifier/db/models.py18:45
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sean-k-mooneyi prefer the18:46
sean-k-mooneyopenstack/neutron-classifier18:46
sean-k-mooneyapproch18:46
sc68calI need to find time to clean up the actual layer above the models, the API itself is clunky18:47
sc68calbut the database piece is solid IMO18:47
sean-k-mooneysc68cal: out of interest have you considered using oslo versioned objects?18:47
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sc68calsean-k-mooney: I don't know what it gets us at this point, when nobody is using it18:48
sc68calif someone wants to contribute it, sure!18:49
sean-k-mooneythat makes sense i guess just when i see validation of feild as in  https://github.com/openstack/neutron-classifier/blob/master/neutron_classifier/db/models.py#L117-L12418:50
sean-k-mooneyi think oslo versioned object would be a nice way to do it18:50
sean-k-mooneywell i guess thats more of the table definition but you get the general drift18:51
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sc68calyup18:51
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HELLER[ca]_ihrachys: hi Ihar19:45
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ihrachysHELLER[ca]_: hey19:47
enikanorovihrachys: can you explain what was the issue with mtus? I kind of understand it, but i was surprised to know ovs is the same as linux bridge with regard to mtu19:47
enikanorovwe've been using ovs 2.4.1 and never cared about mtu of internal ports19:47
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ihrachysenikanorov: well... I thought that the email is clear, but apparently not.19:48
ihrachysenikanorov: lemme check my version of ovs19:48
ihrachys-bash-4.2$ rpm -q openvswitch19:48
ihrachysopenvswitch-2.5.0-2.el7.x86_6419:48
enikanorovno, i understand the problem if ovs were linux bridge...19:48
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ihrachysenikanorov: basically, once I start an instance on 1450 network, br-int gets 1450. then when I plug a qg port that belongs to 1500 network, it never gets 1500 but sticks to 1450 that it gets when initial plugging into the bridge occurs.19:49
ihrachysenikanorov: now, if I set mtu AFTER I move the device into ns, then it works19:49
ihrachysbut not before.19:49
ihrachysenikanorov: you can try to execute the functional test I have in that patch with your version of ovs19:49
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enikanorovyeah, i understand that part. I have a setup in front of me where qg interface in namespace got 9000, while br-int is 150019:50
enikanorovand that qg is plugged in br-int19:50
enikanorovthe code doesn't have your patch, it does things the old way19:50
ihrachyswhich is... interesting19:50
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ihrachysenikanorov: just to make sure, I would still try the test19:51
ihrachysenikanorov: because again, maybe the fact that an instance is actually plugged makes a difference19:51
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ihrachysenikanorov: do you have an instance with lower mtu plugged into br-int?19:51
ihrachysif not, please start one, then clear/set the gateway19:51
enikanorovihrachys: ok, let me check19:51
ihrachysand I assume you run mitaka+19:51
enikanorovright19:52
enikanorovnot the master though19:52
ihrachysok, please update me, I am eager to hear results19:52
ihrachysmaybe in the email since I may fall asleep or smth19:52
ihrachysstable/mitaka should be ok. I think I reproduced it with master, but I don't think there were any huge differences in newton for mtu.19:53
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ihrachysenikanorov: another thing I noted is that if I use veths to plug routers, then all worked fine for me without the patch.19:53
ihrachyswhich makes sense19:53
enikanorovyeah19:53
ihrachyssince then the bridge thinks it's all 9000 (the default for veth)19:54
ihrachysor maybe it does not actually make a sense... whatever.19:54
enikanorovbut we dont use veths19:54
ihrachys(it does not because the bridge is still 1450 due to the instance...)19:54
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* Sam-I-Am sees mtu talk19:58
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ihrachysSam-I-Am: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097189.html19:59
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enikanorovhmm, everything is setup for jumbo frames here... anyway, ifconfig br-int still shows 150020:00
ihrachysenikanorov: that's fine. the question is, once you plug in a 1450 instance, can you plug qg that is > 1450?20:01
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ihrachysanyway, I prefer the test to be executed to see if we surfaced some difference in ovs/kernel that we should be aware20:02
Sam-I-Amihrachys: yeah, i'm reading it20:02
enikanorovi can't set mtu for a new network, can i? i'll have to reconfigure... that will not be simple20:02
ihrachysenikanorov: test is simple :)20:02
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ihrachysenikanorov: mtu is read only, yes.20:03
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enikanorovok, i think if i set 1500 in nova.conf for compute, it should try to plug 1500 interface20:03
ihrachysenikanorov: waaiit20:04
ihrachysenikanorov: you use network_device_mtu?20:04
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ihrachysenikanorov: because if you do, you basically test something deprecated and not what we validate20:04
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ihrachysin the new mitaka world, you don't configure mtu on nova side20:05
enikanorovihrachys: oh. i see20:05
enikanorovthen i'll have to hack db20:05
enikanorovor what test do you suggest?20:05
ihrachysenikanorov: the functional test in the patch20:05
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enikanorovok, let me take a look20:05
ihrachyshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/327651/4/neutron/tests/functional/agent/linux/test_interface.py20:05
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ihrachysif it passes for you without the production code change, then it's some version mismatch. otherwise you are affected too, you just may not catch it because of how you manage mtu right now.20:06
Sam-I-Amits interesting that ovs bridge mtu only sort-of matters20:07
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ihrachysSam-I-Am: it does matter if you really use it like a normal switch20:07
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ihrachysSam-I-Am: the way we do it... well, it's creative20:07
Sam-I-Amyeah, it is creative20:07
enikanorovihrachys: yeah, that's the difference, we never plug physical interfaces into ovs directly20:08
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ihrachyswhen I described our setup with multiple domains on the same switch to ovs folks, they were surprised and wondering why not mulitple bridges per network20:08
Sam-I-Amwell, we do... like your provider bridges20:08
Sam-I-Amthe linux bridge agent creates unique bridges for just about everything20:08
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ihrachysSam-I-Am: with vmware-aware-vms, we will have a bridge per trunk port, if I get it right.20:09
Sam-I-Amit probably never came up because no one thought about mtu. also weird that i cant reproduce the problem on a multi-node, but everything is impacted by the fact that we're sort of exploiting a bug20:09
ihrachysso maybe it's not that bad idea after all. it's just that upgrade would be fun if we would remodel bridge setup.20:09
Sam-I-Amtheres probably some way to trigger this issue on a multi-node, i just havent found it yet20:10
Sam-I-Ami'm also curious how many people have different kinds of self-service networks20:10
ihrachysSam-I-Am: actually, the thing I am not clear is: it probably works fine when you plug just router ports; it seems to stop working when tap/hybrid is involved.20:10
openstackgerritAnkur proposed openstack/neutron: Neutron Feature Matrix Implementation  https://review.openstack.org/32404820:11
ihrachysas if hybrid actually enforces br-int mtu while router namespace does not20:11
ihrachysoh20:11
ihrachysI think I have an idea why20:11
Sam-I-Ami guess the diff here is that my compute nodes dont have namespaces20:11
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ihrachysbecause next time you plug another router port in the bridge, kernel does not see other devices plugged, because they are already in the namespaces.20:11
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ihrachysso as long as you don't have a time when parallel router plug requests occur, you are good to raise bridge MTU according to latest device plugged20:12
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Sam-I-Amhumm...20:12
ihrachysbut since tap/hybrid never 'hides' from ovs/kernel in a namespace, it breaks everything20:13
ihrachyswell, it's not proved, just an idea20:13
ihrachyswill maybe play with it tomorrow20:13
Sam-I-Amwell, the multi-node seems to Just Work20:13
Sam-I-Ami'm also curious if there's any impact of our ordering of things with linux bridge, but i suspect the multi-bridge nature prevents it... although its worth poking at20:14
ihrachyswell. I guess as long as you split compute and network services20:14
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enikanorovihrachys: so i 've just tested it, works fine20:15
ihrachysenikanorov: the test?20:15
enikanorovqrouter namespace got qg with 9000 and qr with 145020:15
enikanorovboth on br-int inside ovs20:15
ihrachysenikanorov: even after clear/set?20:15
enikanorovyes20:15
ihrachysmeh. ok it may be either good or bad news.20:16
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ihrachysenikanorov: functional test would be the next step.20:16
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enikanorovunfortunately the environment is not set up for func tests20:17
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ihrachysenikanorov: the reporter of the bug was using latest ubuntu. maybe fresh ovs?20:18
ihrachysit's 2.5.0 in xenial that he tested20:18
ihrachysand same in my env20:18
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enikanorovwe're on 14.04/ovs 2.4.120:19
openstackgerritJames Anziano proposed openstack/neutron: Remove the plugin import from auto_alloc extension  https://review.openstack.org/32917320:20
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ihrachysenikanorov: can this be related? https://bugs.xenserver.org/browse/XSO-44920:26
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enikanorovihrachys: hard to say. i have no experience with xenserver/xapi. mtu propagation with linux bridges is a known thing, but i've never seen it with ovs bridges20:31
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openstackgerritJohn Perkins proposed openstack/neutron: WIP - Route, RoutePort and RouterRoute to OVO  https://review.openstack.org/30796420:54
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openstackgerritSlawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/neutron: Filter supported QoS rules with possible parameters  https://review.openstack.org/31969420:56
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kevinbentonzzzeek: yo21:19
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zzzeekkevinbenton: hi21:20
kevinbentonzzzeek: trying to figure out what is the back-portable way to fix this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326927/21:20
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kevinbentonzzzeek: i don't think i can depend on an oslo db feature21:20
kevinbentonzzzeek: and the sqlalchemy looks really recent for mitaka/liberty back-ports21:21
kevinbentonzzzeek: to capture the warning21:21
zzzeekkevinbenton: so the context manager that you use in "with session.begin_nested()" is where the issue is21:21
zzzeekkevinbenton: if you use a homegrown manager that works like the one i proposed for oslo.db then you can chain together the DBError instances as they occur21:21
zzzeekkevinbenton: in this case, oslo.db catches both the inner, and the outer, exceptions before SQLAlchemy gets to them, so you have a DBError raised while we're raising a DBError21:22
kevinbentonzzzeek: ack21:22
zzzeeksqlalchemy itself doesn't try chaining the two exceptions together other than to use py3k's normal process.  but in py2k we don't have that.  so it just warns for the cause21:23
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kevinbentonright21:23
kevinbentonand i was going to try to capture with a wanrings fitler21:24
kevinbentonfilter*21:24
kevinbentonbut then i saw that that warning was pretty recently added to mysql21:24
kevinbentoni mean sqlalchemy21:24
kevinbentonso it might not be present in stable requirements21:24
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zzzeekkevinbenton: ermmmm how far back are you wanting to go21:25
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zzzeekkevinbenton: I should check though that any of this works when the error is inside _flush()...erg21:27
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kevinbentonzzzeek: probably mitaka at least21:46
kevinbentonzzzeek: i remember seeing one then21:47
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kevinbentonzzzeek: one more completely unrelated question. If I use Query.delete with sychronize_session='evaluate' will the deleted objects be available in session.deleted, or is that strictly for removing objects already in the session21:49
zzzeekkevinbenton: its only for objects already in the session21:49
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kevinbentonzzzeek: thx21:50
zzzeekkevinbenton: this "cause" issue, I'm not coming up with something that works everywhere everytime.  still thinking about it21:51
zzzeekkevinbenton: the only thing that works perfectly is python 321:51
zzzeekkevinbenton: or, make mysql rollback not fail21:51
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zzzeekkevinbenton: but, you need it to, because otherwise you think your transaction is still usable which it's not21:52
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/32483821:52
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kevinbentonzzzeek: is it technically a bug in mysql when it destroys the savepoint on deadlock?21:52
zzzeekkevinbenton: it's a limitation21:52
zzzeekkevinbenton: i have another idea.  trying it21:53
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328186/22:14
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: got confirmation from Mike that synchronize wouldn't be enough to add to session.deleted22:15
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: Thanks for the reminder.  I'd forgotten about that one since Friday.22:15
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: That is good to know.22:15
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zzzeekkevinbenton: when you get SAVEPOINT does not exist, it's definitely a retry-everything situation22:54
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kevinbentonzzzeek: right22:54
kevinbentonzzzeek: in that patch that's the thing that determines if an API operation should be retried22:55
zzzeekkevinbenton: the more I try to dig into this the more that MySQL tricks me22:55
kevinbentonzzzeek: so it's retry-everything22:55
zzzeekkevinbenton: it's defintiely that22:55
zzzeekkevinbenton: i think what you have is best.  would be *super* curious to see the deadlock message in a warning22:55
zzzeekbecause it should be printing it in the logs22:56
kevinbentonzzzeek: let me see if i can find it22:56
kevinbentonzzzeek: i did see it for the bug report22:56
kevinbentonzzzeek: ah, actually it's right in the bug report body22:57
kevinbentonzzzeek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/159029822:57
openstackLaunchpad bug 1590298 in neutron "DB retry wrapper needs to look for savepoint errors" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)22:57
zzzeekkevinbenton: oh yes, ok22:57
zzzeekkevinbenton: this almost works too but I can't get a simple test for it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329215/122:58
zzzeekkevinbenton: and if i could get a test to work it would still be spooky22:58
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kevinbentonzzzeek: is it possible to get the session corresponding to a DB exception?23:02
zzzeekkevinbenton: when you catch an error you should still have your session assuming you're talking ORM session23:03
kevinbentonzzzeek: yeah, i was just thinking the DB retry decorator should probably expire everything in the session before each retry23:03
zzzeekkevinbenton: much easier to do in enginefacade23:04
zzzeekkevinbenton: oh but also the session does that anyway23:04
zzzeekkevinbenton: on a rollback23:04
kevinbentonzzzeek: oh okay. so on rollback everything is expired?23:04
zzzeekkevinbenton: yes and the rollback is on a subtransction in the flush, so it's immediate23:04
zzzeekkevinbenton: before you even get to do anything23:04
kevinbentonzzzeek: perfect23:05
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zzzeekkevinbenton: in this patch i almost have something working for oslo.db but not sure if it's necessary23:05
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kevinbentonzzzeek: i was just always worried that carrying the same session between retry attempts might bring along baggage23:05
zzzeekkevinbenton: nah we fixed all that stuff years ago23:05
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kevinbentonzzzeek: in your patch it would help us actually determine the original was a deadlock right?23:06
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zzzeekkevinbenton: we're just trying to build a chain of causes that you can go upwards towards, yes23:06
kevinbentonyeah, inspect caused_during_handling_by23:07
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zzzeekkevinbenton: i almost have the test for this working.  just concerned avbout it leaving crap around in other cases23:08
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kevinbentonzzzeek: leaving unnecessary caused by stuff?23:10
zzzeekkevinbenton: im taking the innermost exception and sticking it in connection.info23:11
zzzeekkevinbenton: need to make sure it isn't there once the "thing that failed" is all done23:11
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kevinbentonright23:13
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zzzeekkevinbenton: OK this works https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329215/2  but not sure if it has side effects23:13
zzzeekkevinbenton: OK gotta go watch my kid, more tomorrow23:14
kevinbentonzzzeek: ack. thx for the help23:15
openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Extension to tell when deferred binding is in effect  https://review.openstack.org/32922123:17
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openstackgerritManjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Refactoring config options for agent  https://review.openstack.org/32419123:38
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element52Hi everyone. I have a quick question. I rebooted my OpenStack Kilo environment about 25 minutes ago. My compute nodes are stuck on "Starting Neutron OVS Cleanup" and have been since the reboot. Is this normal? I have never had this happen before23:39
element52And I could not find much info online googling around23:39
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Sam-I-Amelement52: hummm. is ovs started? anything in the logs?23:41
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element52OVS running on the controller you mean??23:41
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element52Sam-I-Am: http://paste.openstack.org/show/515854/23:42
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Sam-I-Amovs would be running on the compute nodes23:43
element52Compute nodes wont start23:43
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element52They're hung during boot at "Starting Neutron OVS Cleanup"23:44
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Sam-I-Amlooks like all the ovs agents are dead23:44
element52I have a neutron OVS log paste23:44
element52http://paste.openstack.org/show/515855/23:44
element52That is on my controller node.23:44
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Sam-I-Amlooks like ovs isnt started when it tries to run23:45
Sam-I-Amso it keeps trying to run23:45
Sam-I-Amis this ubuntu?23:45
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element52Yes sir23:45
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element52Ubuntu 14.0423:45
element52I know, old23:45
Sam-I-Amyeah, those init scripts are incessant until the process terminates properly23:45
Sam-I-Amits annoying23:45
element52Hard reboot?23:45
Sam-I-Amcan you get into the box?23:46
element52Like at the console level??23:46
element52Yeah, on 3 of the 523:46
Sam-I-Amyeah, ssh, whatever23:46
element52fml on the other two23:46
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Sam-I-Amsee if openvswitch-switch is running. if not, start it23:46
element52I can't get to a terminal23:46
element52It never boots23:46
element52Im at a console on the back-end. But the boot process isn't finished on it23:46
element52I.E. - I have a back-end DRAC/LILO access23:47
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element52But the boot process has not finished. It's just STUCK on "Starting Neutron OVS cleanup"23:48
Sam-I-Ammight be able to ctrl-c the boot process. sometimes it works. i'm gathering it hasnt started ssh yet?23:48
Sam-I-Ami hate upstart :)23:48
Sam-I-Amthings just fire off in whatever order they want23:48
element52Ctrl+c isn't working.23:49
element52I can do a reboot23:49
Sam-I-Amif that doesn't work, you can reboot into single user mode and drop an override into /etc/init for the cleanup script23:50
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element52It's gunna be one of those nights lol23:50
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Sam-I-Amheh23:54
Sam-I-Amcant win them all23:54
Sam-I-Amthe other thing to do is make sure the ovs cleanup script depends on openvswitch-switch23:54
Sam-I-Amnot sure those scripts are 100% correct23:54
Sam-I-Amand/or might be using legacy (sysv) scripts23:54
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