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openstackgerrit | Ankur proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Change Update Quota Help Text https://review.openstack.org/335720 | 00:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Enable CRUD for trunk ports https://review.openstack.org/320092 | 00:13 |
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openstackgerrit | ZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: Add bgp speaker and route advertisement doc https://review.openstack.org/318532 | 00:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Revisit the Stadium section of the developer guide https://review.openstack.org/335739 | 00:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure that only one fg device can exist at a time in fip ns https://review.openstack.org/335755 | 01:30 |
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openstackgerrit | gengchc2 proposed openstack/neutron: spelling error: modify assocations -> associations in files as follows: neutron/agent/l3/link_local_allocator.py:38 https://review.openstack.org/335771 | 02:11 |
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openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/neutron: Use is_valid_ipv6 from oslo.utils https://review.openstack.org/335328 | 02:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Bin Zhou proposed openstack/neutron: Make dict.keys() PY3 compatible https://review.openstack.org/332661 | 02:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Moats proposed openstack/neutron: Lower ML2 message severity. https://review.openstack.org/335530 | 03:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: WIP Create devstack plugin for neutron-dynamic-routing https://review.openstack.org/335310 | 03:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Darek Smigiel proposed openstack/neutron: Rename DB columns: tenant -> project https://review.openstack.org/335786 | 04:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Darek Smigiel proposed openstack/neutron: Rename DB columns: tenant -> project https://review.openstack.org/335786 | 04:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Darek Smigiel proposed openstack/neutron: Rename DB columns: tenant -> project https://review.openstack.org/335786 | 04:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Li Yingjun proposed openstack/neutron: Fixes internal server error when updating qos rule https://review.openstack.org/244680 | 04:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Darek Smigiel proposed openstack/neutron: Added Deprecation Warning to models https://review.openstack.org/335792 | 05:13 |
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openstackgerrit | IWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed openstack/neutron: ovsfw: Fix native ovsdb_interface incompatibility https://review.openstack.org/335800 | 05:55 |
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openstackgerrit | QunyingRan proposed openstack/neutron: Remove used ip which not in subnet pool from network used ip statistics https://review.openstack.org/322387 | 06:19 |
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openstackgerrit | dongwenshuai proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Remove mox in files test_cli20_address_scope.py and test_cli20_port.py https://review.openstack.org/330956 | 06:48 |
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vinod | Hi , I am using kilo verison of openstack .. I am seeing that router external interface is in DOWN state .. while I am able to ping to that interface .. Though I try to bring it up it says read-only attribute status .. any help is appreciated . thanks | 07:01 |
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namnh | Hi everyone. Now, I am trying to write an unit-test that needs to mock a process which creates a record to Routerports table by ("context.session.add(RouterPort)"), There is an existed method that uses: "with mock.patch('sqlalchemy.orm.Session.add')", but it will mock all cases creating a record to a table in Database includingefore the cases before creating a record to Router table by ("context.session.add(Router)"). | 07:12 |
namnh | Do you know how to mock *only* process which creates a record to Routerports table by ("context.session.add(RouterPort)"). Any help is appreciated. Thanks. | 07:12 |
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openstackgerrit | li,chen proposed openstack/neutron: Fix API test for neutron-vpnaas https://review.openstack.org/335828 | 07:20 |
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openstackgerrit | li,chen proposed openstack/neutron: Fix API test for neutron-vpnaas https://review.openstack.org/335828 | 07:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Roey Chen proposed openstack/neutron: Adding the appropriate log hints where needed https://review.openstack.org/332750 | 07:35 |
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openstackgerrit | li,chen proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Fix api tests https://review.openstack.org/335838 | 07:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303346 | 08:10 |
openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303346 | 08:10 |
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openstackgerrit | li,chen proposed openstack/neutron: Fix API test for neutron-vpnaas https://review.openstack.org/335828 | 08:22 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: hey, can you take a look at 330327 again when you get a sec? | 08:53 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: (real link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330327/ ) | 08:53 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: will do | 08:55 |
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openstackgerrit | li,chen proposed openstack/neutron: Fix API test for neutron-vpnaas https://review.openstack.org/335828 | 09:00 |
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andreas_s | rossella_s, thanks for your tip with eager loading other tables - that simplifies the code a lot!! | 09:01 |
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andreas_s | rossella_s, however I'm facing a little challenge now: as the Port obj is still a old style schema obj, the eager load returns also the old style object for my new table, but not the new ovo | 09:02 |
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andreas_s | rossella_s, is there a good way of achieving this? | 09:03 |
rossella_s | andreas_s, yes, I was imagining that :/ | 09:03 |
andreas_s | rossella_s, I mean I could implement a helper method that gets me the corresponding ovo, but that would mean another db query... | 09:03 |
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rossella_s | andreas_s, the good way is to port Port to ovo...Ihar or jlibosva are continuing that work I think | 09:04 |
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rossella_s | andreas_s, in the meanwhile I think you can use the dict, not the ovo...then when the port is completed we can replace and use the ovo everywhere | 09:05 |
openstackgerrit | Yang Yu proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: (WIP)Document about how to test dynamic routing https://review.openstack.org/335871 | 09:05 |
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andreas_s | rossella_s, so you're saying I should not use OVO at all? | 09:06 |
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rossella_s | andreas_s, use the ovo whenever possible for example when you create/update/delete but if you only need to read the values and you already have the dict, I wouldn't bother creating the ovo, does this make sense? | 09:07 |
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andreas_s | rossella_s, yeah that was my intention as well. So I try to avoid the eager loads when an ovo is required, let me try that! thanks! | 09:09 |
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rossella_s | andreas_s, you can't really avoid the eager load, it will be done automatically once you set the property...use it when it simplifies, e.g. instead of getting the object again from the db you can use what you have eager loaded. anyway I will look at the patch once you are done, the code is much more clear than 1000 words :) | 09:11 |
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andreas_s | rossella_s, cool, thanks! | 09:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Bin Zhou proposed openstack/neutron: dict.values() refactor https://review.openstack.org/332661 | 09:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Nguyen Phuong An proposed openstack/neutron-specs: (Operator-only) Logging API for security groups https://review.openstack.org/203509 | 09:47 |
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moshele | ajo, grayk: can you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320562/ | 10:44 |
moshele | gayyk ^ | 10:44 |
moshele | garyk^ | 10:44 |
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openstackgerrit | boden proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Forbid eventlet hacking check https://review.openstack.org/333410 | 10:47 |
garyk1 | moshele: this seems like deja vu? | 10:49 |
moshele | garyk1: sorry with had a pep8 issue :) | 10:49 |
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garyk1 | np | 10:52 |
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TMM | hi all! Does someone know where a mac address in the form of 81:17:2a:08:f7:bb might be coming from? | 11:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: ml2: postpone exception logs to when retry mechanism fails to recover https://review.openstack.org/331137 | 11:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Artur Korzeniewski proposed openstack/neutron: objects: Subnet OVO usage in db base plugin code for get, update and delete https://review.openstack.org/321001 | 11:10 |
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jlibosva | ihrachys: was too slow :( left comments in previous PS re postpone exception | 11:11 |
ihrachys | jlibosva: will check | 11:12 |
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ihrachys | jlibosva: good catch it seems. will need to understand if that's as designed (which honestly would be kinda silly) | 11:14 |
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jlibosva | ihrachys: it seems to be used only as a cleanup | 11:16 |
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ihrachys | jlibosva: right. but let's say StaleDataError happens. we don't retry | 11:16 |
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ihrachys | leaving a resource in the db | 11:16 |
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TMM | NVM, it's just a multicast IP that someone was experimenting with | 11:21 |
TMM | sorry | 11:21 |
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ihrachys | rossella_s: trunk object not yet exposed thru rpc callbacks? | 11:25 |
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korzen | Hi ihrachys I'm wondering about tenant_id and project_id compatibility | 11:31 |
korzen | ihrachys, for example use cases when user of for example subnet object would like to create subnet, if tenant_id is passed in object contructor, should it internally in object convert the tenant_id to project_id | 11:32 |
ihrachys | korzen: I don't think that constructor should allow to set project-id | 11:32 |
ihrachys | sorry, tenant-id | 11:33 |
ihrachys | the user of the object will need to set project-id, but then on to_dict() we will give them tenant-id in addition to project-i | 11:33 |
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ihrachys | we can also provide read only property for tenant-id for ease of use, but it should just return the value of project-id field. | 11:34 |
korzen | ok, yes, it seems logical that creation of object should convert tenant_id to project_id before creating a subnet object | 11:34 |
korzen | tenant_id as read-only is handled by obj_extra_fields | 11:35 |
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korzen | like in my patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331009/5/neutron/objects/subnet.py@175 | 11:36 |
korzen | and how about update? | 11:36 |
ihrachys | korzen: I don't think we should allow to update it with __setattr__ or thru constructor. | 11:37 |
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ihrachys | korzen: the question is, does obj_extra_fields expose the field when serializing? | 11:38 |
ihrachys | korzen: I think we should not generally allow that. | 11:38 |
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korzen | ihrachys, what I have added in subnet is tenant_id for filtering: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321001/10/neutron/objects/subnet.py@187 for test reason it is added in subnet integration patch will be moved to proper | 11:39 |
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korzen | ihrachys, I can check if obj_extra_fields are exposed in serializing, it should because there are in to_dict() and in iteration... | 11:40 |
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ihrachys | korzen: I think to_dict() is a bit different from .obj_to_primitive | 11:42 |
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ihrachys | korzen: I think only project-id should be allowed for filtering. | 11:42 |
ihrachys | korzen: then the object itself will convert back to tenant-id by the virtue of field_needs_translation | 11:43 |
korzen | ihrachys, hmm I have added the filtering by tenant_id since API and functional tests are using it | 11:43 |
ihrachys | korzen: API may always convert for the sake of the object right? and it will need to eventually do it anyway once we rename in the db. | 11:44 |
ihrachys | as for the tests, meh, that does not seem like a good reason. | 11:44 |
korzen | ihrachys, yes, until tenant_id is present in db, the filtering will be working | 11:45 |
ihrachys | so I don't think we should expose something that will eventually break. adding the filter also makes the object vague (you can use tenant-id as well as project-id for the same thing) | 11:45 |
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korzen | ihrachys, sadnly obj_to_primitive is not returning tenant_id | 11:51 |
korzen | sadly* | 11:51 |
ihrachys | korzen: well I actually think it's for the best ;) | 11:51 |
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ihrachys | korzen: I assume that it will always return the same as project-id? | 11:52 |
korzen | ? | 11:52 |
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ihrachys | korzen: we don't want tenant-id exposed as part of the object. why would we? | 11:53 |
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korzen | ihrachys, how about backward compatibility? | 11:54 |
ihrachys | korzen: the only thing we may want to consider is allowing, for some short time, to use .tenant_id to retrieve project-id field. | 11:54 |
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ihrachys | korzen: compatibility with what exactly? the code that currently uses sqla and passes tenant-id into the filter? no one said it will allow to do the same with the object. | 11:54 |
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korzen | ihrachys, compatibility between newer server and older agent? | 11:55 |
ihrachys | korzen: are there agents that consume subnet objects? | 11:55 |
korzen | ihrachys, dhcp agent is consuming the network with subnets and ports | 11:56 |
ihrachys | korzen: but it does not consume the object. | 11:56 |
korzen | currently in dict | 11:56 |
ihrachys | korzen: it consumes a dict | 11:56 |
ihrachys | that may be produced from the object, sure, but that's different | 11:56 |
ihrachys | so the code that prepares the payload for the agent will do the needed conversion | 11:56 |
ihrachys | and eventually the agent will just switch to using the object. | 11:56 |
ihrachys | thru rpc callbacks | 11:57 |
rossella_s | ihrachys, not yet | 11:57 |
ihrachys | rossella_s: yeah, thanks. I already deduced that with git grep and pushed the revision number patch into the gate :) | 11:57 |
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korzen | ihrachys, ok it make sense that sending dict will expose the tenant_id | 11:58 |
korzen | and object will be only with project_Id | 11:58 |
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korzen | ihrachys, ok so API and functional tests should be corrected to use the project_id, and we do not want to expose filtering via tenant_id in object itself | 12:00 |
ihrachys | korzen: right. and then when we get versioning for api and are able to drop tenant-id from api layer, we just remove it from to_dict(), *without bumping versions for all objects* | 12:00 |
ihrachys | korzen: right. object will know project-id only. so something on top of it will need to convert tenant-id filter into project-id | 12:01 |
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ihrachys | korzen: what's the entity to do that, I don't know yet. you may want to check with dasm. | 12:01 |
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korzen | ihrachys, ok, thx | 12:01 |
ihrachys | korzen: I would prefer to see it somewhere up the stack e.g. in base controller so that it applies to all resources. but that may be too hard to tackle right now. | 12:02 |
korzen | ihrachys, I've seen that some deptcollector would rename the tenant_id to project_id in API layer just after receiving the request | 12:02 |
korzen | ihrachys, not sure if it already merged, dasm showed me some code a while ago | 12:03 |
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ihrachys | korzen: debtcollector? but it would log a warning which is not correct. we allow that right now, right? so no code issue? | 12:03 |
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korzen | ihrachys, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320090/7/neutronclient/client.py@53 | 12:06 |
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ihrachys | ah client. that makes sense. | 12:07 |
ihrachys | we don't deprecate it on server side, yet. | 12:07 |
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korzen | ihrachys, yes, sorry, I thought it was API in neutron | 12:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Add revision_number to standard attr for OVO https://review.openstack.org/330327 | 12:35 |
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korzen | ihrachys, can you point me to existing tests for API and retain the format of IP addresses and CIDRs? | 13:17 |
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ihrachys | korzen: at least some failed for me when we switched subnetpool. | 13:17 |
ihrachys | korzen: let me check | 13:17 |
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ihrachys | sorry, allowed pairs | 13:18 |
ihrachys | korzen: http://logs.openstack.org/56/287756/9/check/gate-neutron-dsvm-api/878efe5/testr_results.html.gz | 13:20 |
ihrachys | korzen: I see some for MAC addresses | 13:20 |
ihrachys | korzen: I guess I implemented for CIDR because it's affected too | 13:20 |
ihrachys | but nothing actually failed | 13:20 |
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korzen | ihrachys, ok, thanks | 13:20 |
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korzen | ihrachys, I wanted to get everything working and see what tests will fail but did not sound such. currently for subnet integration patch is failing connectivity between vms on different networks and test_dualnet_multi_prefix_slaac saying that cidrs are overlaping with each other | 13:24 |
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dasm | korzen | ihrachys, yes, sorry, I thought it was API in neutron | 13:27 |
dasm | korzen: ihrachys: i'm planning to attack API in next two weeks. | 13:27 |
dasm | but right now, i need to deal with db and alembic migrations | 13:28 |
ihrachys | sure | 13:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Delete mcafee FwaaS driver https://review.openstack.org/291822 | 13:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: WIP: Base OSC plugin support https://review.openstack.org/309587 | 13:44 |
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dasm | ihrachys: i need some tips about alembic migrations. I see gate failures on my db change. and it's understandable: http://logs.openstack.org/86/335786/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/0fd4a28/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-06-30_05_10_26_451 | 13:51 |
dasm | because alembic is trying to apply "old" migration: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-fwaas/blob/master/neutron_fwaas/db/migration/alembic_migrations/versions/4202e3047e47_add_index_tenant_id.py | 13:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Base OSC plugin support https://review.openstack.org/309587 | 13:52 |
dasm | ihrachys: do you know maybe any tips how to deal with old migrations, when tenant_id is already changed to project_id? | 13:52 |
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dasm | i'll look at this today, hopefully will find some solution to this. | 13:53 |
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ihrachys | dasm: this old script is supposed to be executed before you rename to project-id, isn't it? | 13:56 |
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dasm | ihrachys: but it's running after mine. | 13:56 |
dasm | ihrachys: i assumed that mine will be the last one, but maybe it happens because it's running from neutron-fwaas not from bare neutron repo. | 13:57 |
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dasm | i need to look into this, | 13:57 |
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ihrachys | dasm: I suspect that something renames the attribute before fwaas alembic branches are triggered | 13:58 |
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ihrachys | dasm: it may be that we need to help alembic with the order by setting interdependencies or smth | 13:59 |
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dasm | ihrachys: mhm.. interdependencies between different branches? so, some kind of depends-on with migration ids from other repos? | 14:00 |
dasm | does it work? | 14:00 |
armax | ihrachys: ping | 14:00 |
ihrachys | armax: pong | 14:00 |
ihrachys | dasm: not sure :) | 14:01 |
armax | ihrachys: I noticed your recheck on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328570/ | 14:01 |
ihrachys | dasm: the way it's generally to be used is that first all kilos are applied, then all liberties, then eventually it gets to your script in newton | 14:01 |
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armax | ihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335324/ failed pretty badly on the api | 14:01 |
armax | job | 14:01 |
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armax | ihrachys: so I wonder if our stable/branch or even master is belly up | 14:01 |
armax | ihrachys: I see even the lbaas v2 job fail similarly | 14:02 |
armax | ihrachys: TypeError: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'chunked' | 14:02 |
ihrachys | armax: I was rechecking for a devstack related issue in functional job. but it seems I triggered it to patches that were not affected by that particular failure. | 14:02 |
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ihrachys | armax: lemme check the failure for master patch | 14:03 |
armax | ihrachys: sure, I think it was a matter of timing | 14:03 |
armax | ihrachys: prolly that one you recheck is gonna fail the same way? | 14:03 |
ihrachys | we'll see :0 | 14:03 |
ihrachys | maybe something landed in tempest? | 14:03 |
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ihrachys | the stack in the tracebacks does not involve anything in neutron tree | 14:04 |
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ihrachys | alternatively, new urllib? | 14:04 |
armax | ihrachys: I am looking | 14:04 |
armax | master looks good | 14:05 |
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ihrachys | oh I thought that's master. ok, so we have stable branches busted by that one | 14:06 |
armax | ihrachys: mitaka for sure | 14:06 |
armax | ihrachys: dunno about liberty | 14:06 |
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ihrachys | I have a hypothesis | 14:07 |
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armax | ihrachys: shoot | 14:09 |
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ihrachys | armax: yeah, I am actually pretty sure | 14:10 |
ihrachys | armax: so tempest landed a patch | 14:10 |
ihrachys | armax: that uses chunked= argument | 14:10 |
ihrachys | that is introduced in urllib3 1.15 | 14:10 |
armax | ihrachys: yes that might be it | 14:10 |
ihrachys | in mitaka though, we constrain to 1.14 | 14:10 |
ihrachys | so, tempest broke our branches | 14:10 |
armax | but tempest has been using chunked for a while as far as I can tell | 14:10 |
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ihrachys | YAY | 14:10 |
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armax | ihrachys: indeed in master we pull 1.16 | 14:11 |
ihrachys | armax: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332939/ | 14:11 |
armax | ihrachys: not sure I see the correlation | 14:12 |
ihrachys | armax: isn't tempest supposed to use venv though? | 14:12 |
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ihrachys | armax: the patch uses chunked=True for requests. | 14:13 |
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armax | ihrachys: nowhere that we care about | 14:13 |
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armax | ihrachys: tempest uses chunked in the rest_client class | 14:13 |
armax | tempest/lib/common/rest_client.py | 14:14 |
ihrachys | hm. ok. | 14:14 |
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armax | ihrachys: I think that’s where we fail | 14:15 |
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armax | https://github.com/openstack/tempest/commit/4408c4a5fe5a862a7e05d0df8b7990fd1c6053e1 | 14:15 |
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armax | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/mitaka/global-requirements.txt#L247 | 14:17 |
armax | ihrachys: I wonder how it managed to work for so long | 14:17 |
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ihrachys | yeah, that's suspicious, I haven't seen those failures till now | 14:18 |
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ihrachys | armax: but I wondered before, don't we isolate tempest into a master-based venv? | 14:19 |
armax | ihrachys: I don’t think we do | 14:19 |
ihrachys | armax: for the sake of gate, g-r is irrelevant. upper-constraints is the boss. | 14:19 |
armax | ihrachys: same difference https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/mitaka/upper-constraints.txt#L371 | 14:20 |
armax | ihrachys: https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L359 | 14:20 |
ihrachys | armax: wait, in mitaka we DON'T use the plugin for tempest | 14:20 |
armax | ihrachys: didn’t we switch? | 14:21 |
armax | ihrachys: I thought we did | 14:21 |
ihrachys | armax: so we run it from inside api venv that is constrained by mitaka file | 14:21 |
ihrachys | at least the target is in tox.ini | 14:21 |
ihrachys | checking gate logs | 14:21 |
ihrachys | armax: http://logs.openstack.org/24/335324/2/check/gate-neutron-dsvm-api/d7c1d21/console.html#_2016-06-30_11_36_02_654900 | 14:21 |
ihrachys | see, we do tox -e api in mitaka | 14:21 |
ihrachys | I guess we were not really interested to switch till now | 14:21 |
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armax | :) | 14:22 |
armax | ihrachys: or we couldn’t and we forgot why | 14:22 |
ihrachys | fair :) | 14:22 |
armax | ihrachys: it looks like we didn’t switch, you’re right | 14:23 |
armax | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/stable/mitaka/neutron/tests/api/requirements.txt | 14:23 |
ihrachys | yeah, and since that requirement is not constrained, we just took the latest tempest from pypi | 14:23 |
ihrachys | which I believe was just uploaded | 14:24 |
ihrachys | checking | 14:24 |
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ihrachys | yeap, 2016-06-29 | 14:24 |
ihrachys | MEH | 14:24 |
ihrachys | crap | 14:24 |
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ihrachys | we can try to cap the tempest version there | 14:25 |
armax | ihrachys: hang on | 14:25 |
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armax | ihrachys: I am trying to remember why we didn’t do this for mitaka | 14:26 |
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ihrachys | amuller: ideas why we haven't switched gate to using tempest plugin in stable? | 14:26 |
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armax | ihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303631/ was abandoned because I couldn’t get the change in requirements | 14:28 |
amuller | ihrachys: If we switch to the plugin in stable branches, and also remove the tox 'api' venv like we did for master, we'd be breaking any downstream consumers that are presently running CI successfully using the 'api' venv. If we don't remove the venv, we'd have two ways to run the tests in stable branches, and the tempest version could be different, meaning that consumers could run in to issues the upstream gate isn't. It's not an | 14:28 |
armax | ihrachys: oh | 14:28 |
amuller | ideal situation either case. | 14:28 |
armax | I remember | 14:28 |
armax | the switch depends on this change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274023/ | 14:29 |
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ihrachys | armax: sure | 14:29 |
armax | perhaps we were freaked out to cherry pick it? | 14:29 |
ihrachys | it's huge | 14:29 |
armax | this was about the same time we released mitaka | 14:29 |
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amuller | it's non backwards compat more importantly | 14:29 |
armax | ihrachys: we might have gotten cold feet | 14:29 |
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armax | amuller: yes | 14:29 |
ihrachys | armax: lemme shoot with a cap | 14:29 |
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armax | ihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304324/ needed that one | 14:30 |
armax | ihrachys: that’s why it was not cherry picked | 14:30 |
ihrachys | right | 14:31 |
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armax | ihrachys: ok, I can go back to sleep now | 14:32 |
armax | :) | 14:32 |
ihrachys | armax: sleep tight | 14:33 |
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ihrachys | the cap attempt is at https://review.openstack.org/336054 | 14:34 |
armax | ihrachys: it’s just a nap | 14:34 |
armax | ihrachys: I’ll be back | 14:34 |
ihrachys | let's see what CI has to say | 14:34 |
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armax | ihrachys: I think that’ll do | 14:34 |
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armax | ihrachys: I hope that does not lead to some sort of requirements conflict | 14:35 |
armax | later on down the road | 14:35 |
ihrachys | I prefer to think about that when it happens :) | 14:37 |
ihrachys | maybe we will be lucky to get to EOL before it does | 14:37 |
ihrachys | though I doubt our luck | 14:37 |
dasm | ihrachys: you are a real optimist :) | 14:37 |
armax | ihrachys: you ruined my nap | 14:38 |
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ihrachys | armax: always happy to help | 14:47 |
openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: WIP Create tempest plugin for neutron-dynamic-routing https://review.openstack.org/335310 | 14:47 |
armax | ihrachys: :) | 14:47 |
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vbel | hello, is it possible to use dvr_snat on computes while not running l3 agents on controllers at all? does dvr_snat agent work in l3 ha mode only (active/passive)? | 14:49 |
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tidwellr | rosella_s: would you mind taking another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320092/? | 14:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Trevor McCasland proposed openstack/neutron: Add set_abnormal_status helper in PortContext https://review.openstack.org/336068 | 14:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: DNM: DVR: Debug parent patch failure https://review.openstack.org/333036 | 15:04 |
ihrachys | armax: another fix for liberty gate is https://review.openstack.org/336076 but I guess we'll need to squash it with the tempest cap once we validate the fix on mitaka. | 15:05 |
ihrachys | armax: ok, as per zuul, the mitaka cap fix works | 15:07 |
openstackgerrit | John Perkins proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Router OVO https://review.openstack.org/307964 | 15:07 |
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ihrachys | armax: meh, we have a gate job for lbaas in neutron, so it still fails. | 15:10 |
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armax | ihrachys: I suspect the same change must go in lbaas | 15:10 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Restore MySQL and Postgresql functional testing https://review.openstack.org/332476 | 15:11 |
armax | ihrachys: what about the api job? | 15:11 |
ihrachys | armax: api is fine, passed | 15:11 |
armax | ihrachys: ok, so we’re on the right track | 15:11 |
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ihrachys | armax: ok, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336054/ note the depends-on | 15:13 |
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armax | ihrachys: ack | 15:14 |
armax | ihrachys: that ought to do it | 15:14 |
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ihrachys | armax: commit message for lbaas is wrong | 15:15 |
ihrachys | armax: they DON'T have a tempest plugin | 15:15 |
armax | ihrachys: you tricked me | 15:15 |
ihrachys | :P | 15:15 |
armax | ihrachys: they haven’t switched in master, right | 15:16 |
ihrachys | ok that's good now | 15:16 |
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ihrachys | nah, it's good. was actually bumped for tempest. | 15:17 |
ihrachys | armax: what's our policy for cases like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334398/ ? | 15:18 |
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tidwellr | rossella_s: ping | 15:26 |
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rossella_s | tidwellr, pong | 15:34 |
tidwellr | rossella_s: thanks for the review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320092/ | 15:35 |
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tidwellr | rossella_s: I responded with a couple comments | 15:35 |
rossella_s | tidwellr, great I will review later, need to run now. | 15:35 |
tidwellr | rossella_s: thanks | 15:35 |
rossella_s | tidwellr, thank you | 15:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron: ML2: Unify schema for binding normal and distributed ports https://review.openstack.org/326987 | 15:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: OVS-agent: Switch the default to "native" of_interface https://review.openstack.org/319770 | 15:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Margaret Frances proposed openstack/neutron: Generalize agent extension mechanism https://review.openstack.org/329701 | 16:01 |
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carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: ping | 16:05 |
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carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327815/ | 16:05 |
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carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: I think you eliminated the need for that flush, right? Should we get rid of it? | 16:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Trevor McCasland proposed openstack/neutron: Add set_status helper in PortContext https://review.openstack.org/336068 | 16:07 |
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anilvenkata | haleyb, can u please add https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324302/ to your review list? | 16:28 |
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haleyb | anilvenkata: ack | 16:29 |
anilvenkata | haleyb, thanks Brian | 16:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Tracy Jones proposed openstack/neutron: Fix spelling mistakes in the docs https://review.openstack.org/336114 | 16:38 |
armax | amuller: ping | 16:38 |
amuller | armax: hey, in a meeting | 16:38 |
armax | amuller: no worries, I only wanted to draw your attention on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299655/ | 16:39 |
armax | amuller: if you could have a pass at it, it’d be great | 16:39 |
amuller | armax: I think otherwiseguy should have final say | 16:39 |
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armax | otherwiseguy it is | 16:39 |
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ihrachys | armax: garyk: mestery: kevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336076/ gate fix for liberty | 16:41 |
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mestery | ihrachys: Done | 16:41 |
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ihrachys | 15 secs. You can do better!!!1! | 16:42 |
otherwiseguy | amuller: armax: I've been following it. I'll give it another once-over. It's always a tiny bit scary switching people to something new. But especially if we're looking at doing the privsep stuff it makes sense to switch. I have some other performance improvements I'm working on as well, so it should only get better/faster. :) | 16:42 |
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mestery | ihrachys: ;) | 16:42 |
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armax | otherwiseguy: at this point it’s better to switch now to get more mileage | 16:43 |
otherwiseguy | armax: agreed. | 16:43 |
armax | otherwiseguy: I was only curious about the mocking strategy | 16:43 |
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armax | otherwiseguy: one can never be too careful | 16:43 |
armax | otherwiseguy: and I fear that something might go unmocked and it causes random havoc in the gate | 16:44 |
armax | otherwiseguy: but other than that, I am good :) | 16:44 |
armax | what could possibly go wrong? | 16:44 |
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amuller | timing wise this is as good as it'll get | 16:45 |
* otherwiseguy is in the "most of the time if you have to use mock, you shouldn't be using unit testing or should refactor the code" camp | 16:45 | |
otherwiseguy | :p | 16:45 |
amuller | around mid way through a cycle | 16:45 |
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otherwiseguy | But I lost that battle long ago. :) | 16:45 |
armax | otherwiseguy: I am with you | 16:45 |
amuller | otherwiseguy: our testing docs agree with you :) | 16:46 |
armax | otherwiseguy: if we could only have a mockexit referendum | 16:46 |
otherwiseguy | armax: +1e100 | 16:46 |
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armax | otherwiseguy: imagine the turmoil it would send in the openstack community if the remain camp wins | 16:47 |
amuller | "how to move from openstack to vmware" google searches skyrocketing | 16:47 |
armax | amuller: lol | 16:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-fwaas: Delete mcafee FwaaS driver https://review.openstack.org/291822 | 17:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-neutronclient: Fix the problem of mox in test_shell.py https://review.openstack.org/330933 | 17:13 |
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automagically | Quick question about adding a linux bridge as a port to an OVS bridge. Should that be okay? | 17:14 |
automagically | I’m trying to setup a neutron provider network using VLAN. Setting up a br-provider in OVS with a port to a linux bridge. The linux bridge is connected to eth0 which has no assigned address | 17:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Exit and log an error when vxlan_group is incorrectly set https://review.openstack.org/336128 | 17:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Exit and log an error when vxlan_group is incorrectly set https://review.openstack.org/336128 | 17:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Register the dict extend function when service plugin starts https://review.openstack.org/335200 | 17:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Kahou Lei proposed openstack/neutron: Add dictionary check for the port_details https://review.openstack.org/336136 | 17:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure that only one fg device can exist at a time in fip ns https://review.openstack.org/335755 | 17:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Ankur proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Add API extension for reporting Service Providers https://review.openstack.org/336146 | 18:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Aradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: Refactoring config options for cmd https://review.openstack.org/323046 | 18:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Ankur proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Add API extension for reporting Service Providers https://review.openstack.org/336146 | 18:17 |
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amuller | otherwiseguy: If you send a patch that deletes a bunch of ovsdb unit tests I can review it :) | 18:33 |
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otherwiseguy | amuller: That would be a satisfying patch to write. | 18:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Trevor McCasland proposed openstack/neutron: Add set_status helper in PortContext https://review.openstack.org/336068 | 18:55 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Add two more callbacks registry events https://review.openstack.org/335162 | 18:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Fix spelling mistakes in the docs https://review.openstack.org/336114 | 18:59 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/336196 | 19:05 |
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jsheeren | hi all | 19:19 |
jsheeren | quick question about a neutron dvr bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1583694 | 19:19 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1583694 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Allowed_address_pair port that are bound to multiple ACTIVE VM ports" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 19:19 |
jsheeren | is there a known workaround for this bug? | 19:20 |
haleyb | jsheeren: i don't believe so, besides not running DVR. swami is out of the office at the moment so patch might have stalled | 19:21 |
jsheeren | haleyb: any idea on a time frame? last update by swami is on 2nd of june .. | 19:22 |
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haleyb | jsheeren: sorry, i don't have a time frame | 19:24 |
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jsheeren | ok, thank you for the info though | 19:24 |
openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/neutron: Use tempest.lib tenants_client https://review.openstack.org/336264 | 19:24 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: enable OVSDB native interface by default https://review.openstack.org/299655 | 19:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Mickey Spiegel proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add BGP EVPN IP Prefix Advertisement support to Neutron Dynamic Routing https://review.openstack.org/322654 | 19:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: DNM: DVR: Debug parent patch failure https://review.openstack.org/333036 | 20:21 |
openstackgerrit | Rawlin Peters proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Cascade a trunk port's host port binding to its subports https://review.openstack.org/336277 | 20:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Rawlin Peters proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Cascade a trunk port's host port binding to its subports https://review.openstack.org/336277 | 20:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Make create_object_with_dependency cleanup https://review.openstack.org/292950 | 21:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fixed --insecure not taking effect when specified https://review.openstack.org/273408 | 21:25 |
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armax | ihrachys: ping | 21:38 |
armax | I am surprised you’re still alive and kicking | 21:38 |
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ihrachys | armax: am I? | 21:40 |
armax | prolly not | 21:41 |
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armax | ihrachys: so one of your many clones posted https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1566520 | 21:41 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1566520 in neutron "[RFE] Upgrade controllers with no API downtime" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 21:41 |
ihrachys | armax: I am actually playing Civ trying not to fall sleep till the meeting in 20 mins. | 21:41 |
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armax | ihrachys: I have one final question, but I think I have a better understanding on how you want to tackle this | 21:41 |
armax | ihrachys: well | 21:42 |
ihrachys | armax: you captured it neatly in the last comment | 21:42 |
armax | ihrachys: I think I have a better understanding of the what | 21:42 |
armax | the how is still a bit fuzzy | 21:42 |
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armax | ihrachys: you read it already? | 21:42 |
armax | you’re a machine | 21:42 |
ihrachys | armax: just did | 21:42 |
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armax | ihrachys: ok | 21:42 |
armax | ihrachys: it’s an ambitious goal, but I like it | 21:43 |
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armax | ihrachys: having said that ... | 21:44 |
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armax | :) | 21:44 |
armax | ihrachys: I wonder how many operators would feel confident of upgrading with no API downtime, in general | 21:44 |
armax | ihrachys: but that should not refrain us from providing the option | 21:45 |
ihrachys | armax: I've heard actual requests to 'do what nova and cinder already did' which is no-downtime rolling upgrade for db | 21:45 |
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armax | ihrachys: ok | 21:46 |
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ihrachys | ok, back to slashing Persians... | 21:48 |
ihrachys | armax: btw re fuzzy 'how', does it suggest you want something written with exact details? | 21:50 |
armax | ihrachys: I am not sure I can visualize the plan to make that happen | 21:51 |
armax | ihrachys: a break down of what steps you need to take in order to realize your vision | 21:51 |
HenryG_ | ihrachys: that game can cause vast amounts of time to vanish | 21:52 |
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ihrachys | armax: well, those are briefly mentioned in e.g. comment 10, though only briefly. we also had some attempt to set the plan with a talk on the last summit, you could try that too; if nothing works, I can either write it up or dedicate time to explain you details in person | 21:54 |
ihrachys | HenryG: and so does sleep :) | 21:54 |
armax | ihrachys: well, it wouldn’t be just for my own sake | 21:54 |
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ihrachys | armax: right, that's why it could be written up | 21:54 |
HenryG | armax: I recommend the youtube talk from the summit, it helped me a lot to understand it | 21:55 |
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armax | HenryG: link? | 21:55 |
ihrachys | armax: I already have other documentation to produce in the queue (e.g. for object interface), unless korzen_ gets to that before me; I can put that upgrade plan into the list. | 21:55 |
HenryG | armax: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQLBw1_VGcU&feature=youtu.be&t=1322 | 21:56 |
HenryG | armax: that link should take you to the relevant point in the video | 21:56 |
armax | HenryG: danke | 21:56 |
ihrachys | it's cool to see it helped anyone. for my taste, it's a bit twisted in some places. but yeah, could be a start. | 21:56 |
openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/neutron: Use tempest.lib tenants_client https://review.openstack.org/336264 | 21:57 |
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HenryG | ihrachys: are you going to get civ 6? | 21:59 |
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ihrachys | HenryG: sure! :) | 22:00 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/336196 | 22:00 |
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manjeets_ | ihrachys, ping | 22:01 |
ihrachys | manjeets_: pong | 22:01 |
manjeets_ | i am trying to integrate dns objects ovo | 22:02 |
manjeets_ | seems like I need to convert a object https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334695/ | 22:02 |
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manjeets_ | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/extensions/dns_integration.py#L49 | 22:03 |
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manjeets_ | here its gets the sa_instance_state on object but when i use https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334695/4/neutron/objects/dns.py@22 | 22:04 |
manjeets_ | it does not have a attribute sa_instance_state | 22:05 |
amuller | BTW drivers meeting started on #openstack-meeting 5 mins ago if anyone's interested :) | 22:05 |
manjeets_ | is there a decorator to do that conversion ihrachys ?? | 22:05 |
amuller | ihrachys: dunno, according to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/blueprints.html once an RFE is approved it's supposed to have a blueprint | 22:07 |
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ihrachys | manjeets_: where is sa_instance_state accessed? I can't see it. | 22:08 |
ihrachys | manjeets_: I suppose it's some internal sqlalchemy attribute, not a model attribute. | 22:09 |
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manjeets_ | yes it is but it breaks when I use https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334695/4/neutron/objects/dns.py@22 in https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/extensions/dns_integration.py#L49 | 22:11 |
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dasm | manjeets_: probably you're talking about similar thing to this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33083772/sqlalchemy-attributeerror-str-object-has-no-attribute-sa-instance-state | 22:13 |
dasm | manjeets_: am i right? | 22:13 |
openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Create segment_host mapping after new network https://review.openstack.org/334648 | 22:13 |
openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Use tempest.lib tenants_client https://review.openstack.org/336300 | 22:13 |
manjeets_ | dasm i get similar error returned when i tried to ovo here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334695/4/neutron/objects/dns.py@22 | 22:13 |
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dasm | manjeets_: i know basically nothing about ovo, so i won't be able to help you. but i believe it can be connected to some internal features of sqlalchemy, like ihrachys mentioned. if you could show traceback, would be helpful. | 22:14 |
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manjeets_ | dasm, sure | 22:15 |
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manjeets_ | and I have one more concern regarding ovo work which i reported as a ticket https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1597913 | 22:15 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1597913 in neutron "refactor model definitions" [Undecided,New] | 22:16 |
manjeets_ | dasm ihrachys take a look when you get time ^^ | 22:16 |
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dasm | manjeets_: i don't think that you need a bug for refactor. | 22:17 |
dasm | manjeets_: here you have similar refactor done by tonytan4ever: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330870/10/neutron/tests/unit/scheduler/test_l3_agent_scheduler.py | 22:17 |
manjeets_ | I wanted to discuss with community before I do that the thing is do all refactor at once instead of refactoring every resource you implement ovo for | 22:18 |
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dasm | manjeets_: for discussion, probably better idea is to send email on ML. | 22:18 |
dasm | it will gain a much more attention than this bug. | 22:18 |
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HenryG | ihrachys: ping, I would appreciate your feedback on https://review.openstack.org/333633 in case you missed it | 22:47 |
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ihrachys | HenryG: ack, obviously not today. | 22:52 |
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HenryG | ihrachys: yup, thanks | 22:52 |
ihrachys | HenryG: if I get idea right, it allows to use the same CLI but different labels per project? | 22:53 |
ihrachys | HenryG: so --contract will apply all ***-contract labeled scripts? | 22:54 |
HenryG | ihrachys: Yes. Newton will require the labels to be labeled foo-contract, but that is an internal detail. I don't think we want to expose it to the CLI. | 22:54 |
ihrachys | HenryG: no, we don't. why would we? a user wants to apply 'all expand', not 'expand from this particular subproject' | 22:55 |
HenryG | exactly | 22:55 |
ihrachys | even though they still can do it with @foo-expand | 22:55 |
ihrachys | ok, I think I grasp the general idea, and I will review when my head works | 22:56 |
HenryG | I think I tried to support head@expand also | 22:56 |
HenryG | Or something with '@' in it :) | 22:57 |
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HenryG | thanks ihrachys | 22:57 |
ihrachys | HenryG: probably we should check the docs to see what we suggest to users. | 22:58 |
ihrachys | HenryG: I think there should be something in networking-guide or install guide | 22:58 |
HenryG | ihrachys: yeah, it's all in the devref a.t.m. | 22:58 |
ihrachys | HenryG: I thought we actually have user visible. checking. | 22:59 |
ihrachys | HenryG: http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/migration-neutron-database.html | 22:59 |
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HenryG | ihrachys: nice, at least we don't promise much there :) | 23:01 |
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ihrachys | :) | 23:01 |
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kevinbenton | HenryG, ihrachys: once we banish contract scripts and ensure hitless upgrades, what is the point of the neutron-db-manage command? | 23:06 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: applying expand | 23:07 |
kevinbenton | couldn't we just have the new version of the server invoke the migration? | 23:07 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: well, contract will stay in a way | 23:07 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: they will just be postponed | 23:07 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: and they will do mere schema cleanup | 23:07 |
HenryG | Used for garbage collection? | 23:07 |
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kevinbenton | so contract is staying then | 23:08 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: 'the new version of the server invoke the migration' I think that's what nova initially did, they applied diff by inspecting models and db | 23:08 |
kevinbenton | it's just not run until you finish upgrading everything | 23:08 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: but I hear that they found out the autogeneration of the diff is not ideal in sqla, and they hit issues. | 23:08 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: not quite, i'm not talking about sqlalchemy auto generation | 23:09 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: neutron had that too for a while | 23:09 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: i just mean the server invoking the real migrations based on versions in alembic | 23:09 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: right. we will need a mechanism in place to stop unsafe contractions. that I need to design once we are closer to being able to think about it. | 23:09 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: server could definitely do expand on startup. | 23:09 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: probably need DLM for that though :) | 23:10 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: there was a concern though (including zzzeek) that it's too dynamic to modify schema with no op involvement | 23:10 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: neutron merely initialized a clean db, afaiu it was not applying diff | 23:11 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: it would build tables that didn't exist | 23:11 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: yeah, but not update tables with new columns and such | 23:11 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: that's what nova initially implemented | 23:12 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: right, but that's not what i'm talking about | 23:12 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: still using alembic migrations | 23:12 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: but i can see the argument that having it operator invoked gives them a chance to do a db backup first, etc | 23:12 |
ihrachys | ok, I hear you. we could probably consider it, but that's not a priority for sure. | 23:12 |
ihrachys | and I would leave it as an optional thing | 23:13 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: well i would suggest not doing it at all | 23:13 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: since contract is still an allowed phase | 23:13 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: i was just thinking if neutron-db-manage was only going to be for exapnd | 23:13 |
kevinbenton | we could eliminate it completely | 23:14 |
ihrachys | ok, then I don't need to be diplomatic :) | 23:14 |
kevinbenton | but since it will be around for contract | 23:14 |
kevinbenton | there is no point | 23:14 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: well, in a way, contract will also now be 'expand' (in a way that it's safe to execute while running services) | 23:14 |
HenryG | neutron-db-manage also allows control over individual sub-project migrations | 23:14 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: well safe for new versions | 23:15 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: right? | 23:15 |
ihrachys | by the virtue of postpone to when no one cares about contracted bits | 23:15 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: yes. but postponement will not happen just till the next cycle, it will span more releases. | 23:15 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: why? | 23:15 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: I had it walked thru in a talk we did in Austin. | 23:15 |
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HenryG | and neutron-db-manage is used by developers (the --autogenerate option) | 23:15 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: why would we span multiple releases? | 23:16 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: seems like an unnecessary burden... | 23:16 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: because you will have your new server still writing into the old bits. | 23:16 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: for the sake of old servers that still fetch from there | 23:16 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: it could certainly stop doing that 'if contracted' | 23:17 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: more than that, the new server will be forced to consider the OLD columns to be the source of truth because the old servers may modify the state there | 23:17 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: ok, you would need some smart mechanism to detect in runtime contraction happened. | 23:17 |
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HenryG | kevinbenton: the Austin talk... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQLBw1_VGcU&feature=youtu.be&t=1322 | 23:18 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: an alternative would be to give the usage of those bits to die naturally, then clean up | 23:18 |
ihrachys | HenryG: thanks | 23:18 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: that's fine until the schema is a major blocker for a feature | 23:19 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: what would be such a feature? | 23:19 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: changing of one-to-one relationship to one-to-many | 23:19 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: in that case we would probably need to stand up a parallel schema for one-to-many and somehow reconcile it with the old servers | 23:21 |
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kevinbenton | i'm fine with saying you can't use the new feature until all servers are the new version | 23:22 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: ideally, your api layer would not even allow to use the new feature before all servers are upgraded. but that is complicated by our api approach. | 23:22 |
kevinbenton | but to push it out two cycles is getting to be a little much | 23:22 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: even with that mechanism in the API, what you are saying is that we would have to wait two releases to use a feature | 23:22 |
kevinbenton | because the first release is backwards compatible | 23:23 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: the way I envision it, eventually we have versioning and then we pin on upgrade while it's rolling to the next version. then unpin/bump once all is new. | 23:23 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: sure, but that still means the server abandons dealing with the old schema once everyone is upgraded | 23:24 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: it can make the best effort, assuming side effects from the new api were not exposed to old servers. | 23:24 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: in case of 1-to-1 -> 1-to-many, you would just assume that the latter is degraded to 1-to-1 for the time of upgrade by writing just the first relation into the old schema. | 23:25 |
ihrachys | full disclosure: I am already falling asleep, so words can be twisted. | 23:25 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: but writing the first relation may be completely broken | 23:26 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: ok | 23:26 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: we can talk about this another time | 23:26 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: I guess it's case by case? | 23:26 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: consider the 'binding:host_id' becoming 1-many as something to think on | 23:27 |
openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Enable CRUD for trunk ports https://review.openstack.org/320092 | 23:27 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: ok. I will try to get back to it tomorrow. /me makes a note | 23:27 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: ack. ttyl | 23:27 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: once we hit it, we can definitely stand some scaffolding to roll quicker for a specific feature. | 23:28 |
ihrachys | ok, cu next day :) nite. | 23:28 |
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dasm | HenryG: I believe you're stable maintainer. I thought this bug would be worth to backport to mitaka, but we do not have tag "mitaka-backport-potential": https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/+bug/1590942 | 23:45 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1590942 in python-neutronclient "Missing option to set qos-policy as not shared during upgrade" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Akihiro Motoki (amotoki) | 23:45 |
dasm | HenryG: if you're not able to do anything with this, I'll probably talk tomorrow to ihrachys about this. | 23:46 |
HenryG | dasm: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/539,members | 23:46 |
dasm | HenryG: thanks. i've seen email on ML where ihrachys was asking about "+1" for stable maintainers, so i assumed, you're involved. | 23:48 |
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HenryG | dasm: Yeah, it's best to check with Ihar on that. | 23:51 |
HenryG | dasm: BTW, I saw he marked a lot of bugs with the tag 'neutron-proactive-backport-potential', but it does not (yet) seem to be an official tag. | 23:52 |
dasm | HenryG: ok | 23:52 |
dasm | HenryG: he sent a message about this. Maybe this is a way to do this. But I'll talk to him | 23:52 |
HenryG | dasm: also, client bugs/backports are a bit different from neutron | 23:53 |
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