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| anilvenkata | kevinbenton, for neutron | 06:36 |
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| slaweq | ajo: hello | 08:18 |
| slaweq | ajo: what You think about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1644369 ? is it worth to do it? | 08:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1644369 in neutron "Support for DSCP marking in Linuxbridge L2 agent" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 08:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Morin proposed openstack/neutron: OVS: merge the required OpenFlow version rather than replace https://review.openstack.org/371455 | 09:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Lock in DHCP agent based on network_id https://review.openstack.org/399535 | 09:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: ml2: Restore provider attributes create_subnet https://review.openstack.org/401943 | 10:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Nguyen Phuong An proposed openstack/neutron-specs: (Operator-only) Logging API for security groups https://review.openstack.org/203509 | 10:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Ha Van Tu proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Correcting Networking API v2.0 flavor extension https://review.openstack.org/358387 | 10:05 |
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| annp | rossella_s, Hi | 10:06 |
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| rossella_s | annp, hi, in a meeting right now, I will reply later | 10:06 |
| annp | rossella_s, Yes, I've updated new patch-set for logging api spec. | 10:07 |
| rossella_s | annp, great | 10:07 |
| annp | rossella_s, Thanks for your time. :) | 10:08 |
| rossella_s | annp, thanks for your work | 10:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: ml2: Restore provider attributes for create_subnet https://review.openstack.org/401943 | 10:08 |
| annp | rossella_s, I'm looking forward your comments. Many thanks. | 10:08 |
| rossella_s | annp, :) | 10:08 |
| annp | rossella_s, :) | 10:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Fix InvalidInput exception output https://review.openstack.org/363641 | 10:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: policy: cache extracted parent fields for OwnerCheck https://review.openstack.org/271830 | 11:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Omer Anson proposed openstack/neutron: Use pyroute2 to read routing table https://review.openstack.org/394741 | 11:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Revert "DHCP agent: advertise SLAAC prefixes" https://review.openstack.org/401985 | 11:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Revert "DHCP agent: advertise SLAAC prefixes" https://review.openstack.org/401985 | 11:43 |
| ihrachys | beagles: ^ the revert | 11:43 |
| beagles | ihrachys, yay! | 11:44 |
| beagles | ihrachys++ | 11:44 |
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| beagles | ihrachys, thanks man | 11:44 |
| john-davidge | ihrachys: Hey Ihar, when you get a minute could you please let me know if you're still working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362822 ? Thanks | 11:46 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: that's sad | 11:46 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: i thought our min was 2.67, or was that our soft minimum | 11:46 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: well sadly some distros are lagging, and it's not easy to change their paths | 11:47 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: they still can backport features needed | 11:47 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: but not bump a version | 11:47 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: so we can probably bring that feature in like the other dhcp6 one that conditionally disables itself? | 11:48 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: I don't know how we can move with it. I understand that centos should not block neutron development. but breaking a platform like that is not good too. we need to request needed features from distros if they are missing. | 11:48 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: yes, conditional would be ok | 11:49 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: dhcp_release6 is the one i was thinking of | 11:49 |
| ihrachys | john-davidge: I couldn't find time. do you want to take over? | 11:49 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: for dhcp_release6 it was less controversial because even ubuntu does not have it | 11:49 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: i'm working on reproducing this stupid port not found exception now :/ | 11:50 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: how many unique gate failures have you encountered today? | 11:50 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: what's that stupid exception? I am not fresh on latest and greatest f*ups of us | 11:50 |
| john-davidge | ihrachys: Sure, I'll take a look. Thanks | 11:51 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: spotted it a couple of times on the linuxbridge job https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1644502 | 11:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1644502 in neutron "port not found error on create_subnet" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 11:51 |
| ihrachys | john-davidge: thanks! | 11:52 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: yeah, I saw the job failing and people rechecking but I haven't got myself into it until now | 11:52 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: i think something in ipam is leaking a portnotfound when a new subnet is added to an existing network that is having one of its ports concurrently removed | 11:52 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: unfortunely the server logs are not helpful at all of indicating where it's coming from | 11:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Numan Siddique proposed openstack/neutron: Update network dict with segment and mtu info in _create_subnet_db https://review.openstack.org/401995 | 11:55 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: oh, i see the issue. of course it's my fault :/ | 11:56 |
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| numans | kevinbenton, can you please take a look at this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1644519 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401995/ and see if the fix proposed makes sense. | 12:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1644519 in neutron "Mechanism driver's create_subnet_(pre/post)commit functions when called by ML2 plugin doesn't have the correct MTU value in context.network.current" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Numan Siddique (numansiddique) | 12:01 |
| kevinbenton | numans: yes, let me finish up a patch i'm working on locally first | 12:01 |
| numans | kevinbenton, thanks | 12:01 |
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| jlibosva | oanson: hi | 12:09 |
| oanson | jlibosva, hi | 12:09 |
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| jlibosva | oanson: I'm playing with get_routing_table on python3 (based on the recent failures :)) | 12:10 |
| jlibosva | oanson: and I don't know why, but the function returns tuple instead of list | 12:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: sanity check: remove all version based checks https://review.openstack.org/402003 | 12:10 |
| oanson | Yes. In python 3 OSError(13, ...) automatically becomes PermissionError | 12:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Document how to proceed with new platform features https://review.openstack.org/402004 | 12:10 |
| jlibosva | oanson: have you experienced that? maybe I just lack some Py3 knowledge | 12:10 |
| jlibosva | oanson: it happens for successful attempts | 12:11 |
| oanson | jlibosva, yes. That's the reason for the last to PSs | 12:11 |
| oanson | And PermissionError subclasses OSError. Which is why the code works on both | 12:11 |
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| jlibosva | oanson: again, I don't talk about exceptions | 12:12 |
| oanson | Sorry - I missed that line | 12:12 |
| jlibosva | oanson: maybe this will be more clear: http://paste.openstack.org/show/590308/ | 12:12 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: it does not seem like devstack fix fixed the test | 12:13 |
| oanson | I see. 1 sec, trying something | 12:13 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: check experimental results in DNM patch | 12:13 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: it's still failing for the exact same test | 12:13 |
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| oanson | jlibosva, how did you manage to run the Neutron code from interpreter? | 12:15 |
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| jlibosva | oanson: I did nothing, just imported ip_lib | 12:16 |
| jlibosva | oanson: I hope it imported correct package and not the old one | 12:16 |
| oanson | I'm missing requirements | 12:16 |
| oanson | 1 sec, installing | 12:17 |
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| oanson | My suspicion is that the marshalling by privsep turns lists to tuples | 12:17 |
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| oanson | but I want to execute the function with and without client support (as in the tests) to verify | 12:17 |
| oanson | Since list comprehension in py3 returns a list, not a tuple (I verified (: ) | 12:18 |
| jlibosva | yeah, that's what I tried too :D | 12:18 |
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| oanson | With set_client_mode(False), I get a list | 12:23 |
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| oanson | I am now trying to get privsep | 12:23 |
| oanson | With set_client_mode(True), I get a tuple | 12:24 |
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| oanson | jlibosva, looks like it's the privsep object marshalling. | 12:24 |
| jlibosva | oanson: ah, it's not python version dependent | 12:26 |
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| oanson | jlibosva, found it | 12:33 |
| oanson | In privsep, they use msgpack.Unpacker with use_list=False | 12:33 |
| oanson | So lists are turned into tuples | 12:33 |
| korean101 | Error: The requested instance port is already associated with another floating IP. | 12:34 |
| korean101 | anyone knows this? | 12:34 |
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| oanson | jlibosva, should I leave as is, or turn tuple to list in non-privileged code? | 12:37 |
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| jlibosva | oanson: We should keep the compatibility, so we should return a list. Maybe just having "return list(privleged.get_routing_table())" ip_lib will be sufficient | 12:40 |
| jlibosva | oanson: but better would be to configure the Unpacker you mentioned to return list implicitly | 12:40 |
| oanson | jlibosva, I'll do it in the unprivileged code. The unpacker code is in oslo.privsep. I can try pushing the change there too, but I suspect they had a reason for using use_lists=False | 12:41 |
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| jlibosva | oanson: so maybe we should not use the client mode in UTs, I assume that could be reason we didn't catch this issue | 12:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Capture NotFound Exceptions in subnet postcommit https://review.openstack.org/402023 | 12:46 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: ^^ | 12:46 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: ok I will check it after an interview | 12:47 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: who are you interviewing with ;) | 12:47 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: nah, I am good. it's an intern. | 12:48 |
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| oanson | jlibosva, that means unit testing will create a new process via privsep. | 12:51 |
| oanson | Is that acceptable for unit tests? | 12:51 |
| jlibosva | oanson: aha, no, I think we shouldn't do that | 12:51 |
| oanson | I will add functional tests to verify | 12:52 |
| oanson | We already have some in place. It shouldn't be a problem to extend them | 12:52 |
| jlibosva | oanson: it seems that assertItemsEqual don't check types | 12:53 |
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| oanson | jlibosva, yes. I'll add the check explicitly | 12:56 |
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| EmilienM | ihrachys: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401985/, why some tempest tests were passing and some failing? since dnsmasq option didn't exist everything should have failed, no? | 13:10 |
| * EmilienM just tries to understand :) | 13:10 | |
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| EmilienM | ihrachys: also, it seems like this code is not 100% functional https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/cmd/sanity/checks.py#L44 | 13:18 |
| EmilienM | like you said in the revert, centos7 ships 2.66 | 13:19 |
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| EmilienM | looking at neutron's gate, I don't see any centos7 job | 13:21 |
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| ihrachys | EmilienM: yeah we don't have a centos7 job | 14:07 |
| ihrachys | EmilienM: re version https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402003/ | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | ihrachys: why don't you have it? | 14:08 |
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| ihrachys | EmilienM: because then someone would need to maintain it? :) | 14:09 |
| ihrachys | EmilienM: but I guess we may need to revisit it going forward since platform obviously diverge | 14:10 |
| ihrachys | EmilienM: xenial is a lot more fresh and hence can't really catch a lot of issues | 14:10 |
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| lennyb | ihrachys: regarding email dnsmasq, I didnt understood how to pass conf files. http://paste.openstack.org/show/590324/ show the same | 14:44 |
| ihrachys | lennyb: I mean neutron-sanity-check --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-file /etc/neutron/dhcp_agent.ini | 14:45 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: jlibosva: pretty please https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401985/ people are dying and climate is changing without the revert | 15:15 |
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| EmilienM | ihrachys: lol thx | 15:17 |
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| ihrachys | I feel lately we revert too much | 15:39 |
| ihrachys | EmilienM: the patch in merge gate | 15:39 |
| lennyb | ihrachys: thanks | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | ihrachys: I guess not testing some platforms has a cost | 15:40 |
| ihrachys | EmilienM: I think we never had a centos job in neutron | 15:41 |
| ihrachys | maybe it's time to consider it | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Numan Siddique proposed openstack/neutron: Update network dict with segment and mtu info in _create_subnet_db https://review.openstack.org/401995 | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | experimental or non voting would be a good start | 15:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] QoS NIC bandwidth manager for Linux Bridge backend https://review.openstack.org/402121 | 16:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Omer Anson proposed openstack/neutron: Use pyroute2 to read routing table https://review.openstack.org/394741 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Document how to proceed with new platform features https://review.openstack.org/402004 | 16:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Alvarez proposed openstack/neutron: Kill processes when cleaning up namespaces https://review.openstack.org/402140 | 16:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Squash revert to breaking changes https://review.openstack.org/401377 | 16:53 |
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| armax | ihrachys: ping | 17:14 |
| armax | re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401985/ | 17:14 |
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| armax | what’s the point of the sanity check if we don’t assume it is respected? | 17:14 |
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| ihrachys | armax: that check is incorrect, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402003/ | 17:17 |
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| armax | ihrachys: this makes no sense | 17:18 |
| ihrachys | elaborate what specifically | 17:18 |
| armax | so someone would backport a feature into an older version and keep the version number unchanged? | 17:18 |
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| armax | that’s crazy | 17:19 |
| ihrachys | why are you surprised? that's how business is done for RHEL | 17:19 |
| ihrachys | no, base code is still of old version | 17:19 |
| armax | I know | 17:19 |
| armax | but it’s crazy nonetheless | 17:19 |
| ihrachys | it just has 100 more features backported on top | 17:19 |
| armax | because it’s a kick in the nuts to knowing what capabilities you are dealing with | 17:19 |
| ihrachys | I don't think I can't discuss merits of how Red Hat makes its Linux business ;) | 17:20 |
| armax | it’s making version numbers meaningless | 17:20 |
| armax | wouldn’t you agree? | 17:20 |
| armax | If mean if I have dnsmasq 2.67 have the same capabilities of dnsmasq 2.72, then it’s chaos | 17:20 |
| ihrachys | well, it's a matter of how you look at it. rhel folks have their reasons to do extensive backports and not version bumps | 17:20 |
| ihrachys | they don't backport any random shit, just shit they really need (because f.e. we bugged them about it) | 17:21 |
| armax | then you don’t backport features | 17:21 |
| armax | so your statement continue not making sense | 17:21 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402003/2/doc/source/devref/effective_neutron.rst | 17:21 |
| ihrachys | they did some ipv6, MAC matching, dhcp_release6 backports for us | 17:21 |
| armax | here I mean | 17:21 |
| armax | bah | 17:22 |
| armax | this week continues to be crazy | 17:22 |
| armax | it’s a clusterjam over another | 17:22 |
| ihrachys | armax: how does it not make sense (the statement)? | 17:22 |
| ihrachys | armax: agreed. I haven't reverted that many patches for a while | 17:22 |
| armax | Note that sanity checks *must | 17:22 |
| armax | not* check for version numbers of underlying platform tools because | 17:22 |
| armax | distributions may decide to backport needed features into older versions. | 17:22 |
| armax | that makes no sense to me | 17:22 |
| armax | now | 17:22 |
| armax | I understand that RH does it | 17:22 |
| armax | but now you’re making a downstream policy influence upstream development | 17:23 |
| armax | that’s a bold action | 17:23 |
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| armax | and I would not go ahead and revert shit this quickly | 17:23 |
| armax | without proper discussion | 17:24 |
| ihrachys | well it's not exactly d/s policy influencing u/s; it's more like 'if neutron supports EL/CentOS as a platform, then we should accommodate' | 17:24 |
| ihrachys | armax: so, what are our supported platforms? | 17:25 |
| armax | ihrachys: these types of capabilities mismatch have bitten us int he past | 17:26 |
| ihrachys | cruel world | 17:26 |
| armax | ihrachys: I am not saying we shouldn’t do anything about it | 17:26 |
| ihrachys | we can't even trust xenial to be fresh enough | 17:26 |
| armax | so what is the ‘canonical 2.67’ version and set of capabilities come from? | 17:26 |
| armax | if you’re saying ‘we can’t trust binary version numbers' | 17:27 |
| armax | then we’re screwed | 17:27 |
| ihrachys | armax: not really. we just check (with a sanity check) for needed capability | 17:27 |
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| armax | and everytime we want to add a new capability we have to add lots of boilerplate to test the feature and fall back in case it’s not supported | 17:27 |
| ihrachys | armax: and if distros don't ship needed bits, we talk to them | 17:27 |
| armax | agreed | 17:28 |
| ihrachys | (and then wait another year) | 17:28 |
| armax | but then https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402003/ is incomplete | 17:28 |
| armax | because you need to introduce an alternative check | 17:28 |
| armax | to validating what it’s needed in the codebase | 17:28 |
| ihrachys | armax: that's assuming I even know what to check | 17:28 |
| armax | ihrachys: well | 17:28 |
| armax | mark it in WIP until you figure it out | 17:28 |
| armax | you can’t just lift any check | 17:29 |
| armax | and assume everything goes back to normal | 17:29 |
| ihrachys | even if it doesn't help but makes a disservice? | 17:29 |
| ihrachys | giving people wrong assumption that 2.67 is the version we can expect | 17:29 |
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| EmilienM | how can we considred neutron supported on centos7 if we don't have functional testing jobs running on centos7 in neutron's gate | 17:30 |
| EmilienM | it's a dumb question ^ | 17:30 |
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| ihrachys | EmilienM: well it's one thing gating and another thing what we vow to make an effort to support if things break | 17:30 |
| ihrachys | of course gating is a stronger statement | 17:30 |
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| armax | ihrachys: for now I am ok to revert the latest offender, until we resolve this situation | 17:31 |
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| EmilienM | right now, you can't deploy Neutron master on centos7, this is why we ask for this revert | 17:31 |
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| ihrachys | armax: what resolution do you envision for this specific case? adding boilerplate? | 17:32 |
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| ihrachys | btw I would be fine if 1. it's conditional for now. 2. we have a sanity check with the patch that fails on missing --ra-param. | 17:33 |
| armax | ihrachys: we are in a bit of a jam | 17:33 |
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| ihrachys | then deployments could disable the feature for now, and we would have time to convince centos/EL folks to backport the thing | 17:33 |
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| armax | because up until now we assumed there was a subset of capabilities that we expected to be there and the onus was on CIs or distros to provide the right environment for neutron to work correctly | 17:33 |
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| EmilienM | ihrachys: is it updated in rhel 7.3? afik centos7.3 is out in 7 days | 17:34 |
| ihrachys | EmilienM: I think it's still at 2.66 | 17:34 |
| armax | ihrachys: this has happened in the past, which is I think the reason why we introduced the version check in teh first place | 17:34 |
| EmilienM | damn | 17:34 |
| ihrachys | armax: the version check was in dhcp agent before | 17:34 |
| armax | right | 17:34 |
| armax | it was added for a reason | 17:34 |
| ihrachys | armax: we just shrugged it under the carpet | 17:34 |
| ihrachys | by moving it into sanity check | 17:34 |
| armax | because we cannot expect neutron to work correctly unless we have the expected version of dnsmasq | 17:34 |
| armax | now you’re pushing a lot of complexity into neutron for no good reason IMO | 17:35 |
| armax | and that I don’t like | 17:35 |
| ihrachys | neither me | 17:35 |
| ihrachys | the question is, do we support EL7? | 17:35 |
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| armax | ok at least we agree on something :) | 17:35 |
| ihrachys | if the answer is no (and it has its merits), then fine | 17:35 |
| armax | you’re asking the wrong question | 17:35 |
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| ihrachys | but it means that e.g. tripleo will need to figure out their gating | 17:35 |
| armax | the question is: does EL7 supports Neutron Ocata | 17:35 |
| armax | ? | 17:35 |
| ihrachys | because they cannot trust neutron then | 17:36 |
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| ihrachys | armax: yes, you can get access to latest upstream code via RDO/delorean | 17:36 |
| armax | not the other way around | 17:36 |
| ihrachys | armax: tripleo and I think puppet-* gate on delorean | 17:36 |
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| armax | what version does delorean of dnsmasq have | 17:36 |
| armax | ? | 17:36 |
| armax | 2.67+? | 17:36 |
| ihrachys | it should be base, 2.66 | 17:36 |
| EmilienM | ihrachys: exactly, we test trunk from upstream | 17:37 |
| ihrachys | + lots of backports of course ;) | 17:37 |
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| armax | ihrachys: again, if we say that neutron has to worry about all the possible variations of dnsmasq and test/fallback any feature we need | 17:38 |
| armax | ihrachys: we might as well freeze development on the dhcp agent | 17:38 |
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| ihrachys | armax: if a feature is available in supported platforms then we can proceed without boilerplate | 17:39 |
| ihrachys | armax: don't get me wrong, I hate it too | 17:39 |
| armax | ihrachys: you hate it but approve of it | 17:39 |
| ihrachys | armax: but it boils down to whether we feel fine breaking centos | 17:39 |
| armax | again, no sense to me | 17:39 |
| clarkb | as a drive by comment openstack is supposed to run on current rhel and current ubuntu lts (this was a tc decision way back). | 17:39 |
| ihrachys | clarkb: is it documented? | 17:39 |
| clarkb | because thats what our users largely deploy on | 17:39 |
| armax | ihrachys: is there a newer centos that has 2.67? | 17:40 |
| ihrachys | armax: I approve because gates are broken, not because I like complexity | 17:40 |
| clarkb | ihrachys: you'd probqbly have to go through tc resolutions/minutes | 17:40 |
| ihrachys | armax: no there is no newer dnsmasq for centos | 17:40 |
| armax | ihrachys: and for that I agree with the revert | 17:40 |
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| ihrachys | armax: and there won't be unless RHEL folks decide to bump | 17:40 |
| armax | ihrachys: but I want to figure out a way forward that keep everyone’s happy | 17:40 |
| armax | ihrachys: I just don’t want to give in the complexity without proper thought | 17:41 |
| armax | ihrachys: so ultimately I am bitching about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402003/ | 17:41 |
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| ihrachys | armax: my take is master should work with latest centos and ubuntu lts and maybe debian; from my side, I am ready to talk to platform to get the needed bits, but it's a boring and long process, sadly. it's not our world where everything changes in a day. | 17:42 |
| armax | ihrachys: understood, but now you’re telling me that distros were ignoring the sanity checks and things work by accident | 17:43 |
| ihrachys | armax: because the sanity check is wrong | 17:43 |
| ihrachys | armax: it should have validated a missing feature | 17:43 |
| ihrachys | then I would have something to ask platform to do | 17:43 |
| armax | I bet that if the same situation happened for libvirt, the answer would be differnt | 17:43 |
| ihrachys | but they can't fix version number | 17:43 |
| armax | ihrachys: it’s not if distros didn’t engage in the silly practice of backporting features and keeping the version number untouched! | 17:44 |
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| armax | the version is a contrct | 17:44 |
| armax | you’re saying f!ck the contract | 17:44 |
| EmilienM | clarkb: I don't see it in governance, but it makes totally sense regarding our operators. | 17:44 |
| ihrachys | armax: ok let me raise it thru my channels with more anger | 17:44 |
| ihrachys | armax: in the meantime, we need gates fixed | 17:44 |
| armax | ihrachys: dude, I get it | 17:44 |
| ihrachys | armax: maybe that dnsmasq situation is indeed beyond manageability now | 17:44 |
| armax | ihrachys: I am not stopping the revert | 17:44 |
| EmilienM | clarkb: if you don't mind, I'm adding that to my TODO and I'll propose something in governance repo. Wdyt? | 17:45 |
| armax | ihrachys: I am brainstorming with you to define a strategy going forward on how we tackle situations where we need basic capabilities available in the tools neutron relies on | 17:45 |
| armax | I don’t think your devise approach by the patch above is the right one | 17:45 |
| armax | and I am trying to talk some sense into you :) | 17:46 |
| clarkb | EmilienM: I dont infra has operated under that rule as far as providing test images | 17:46 |
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| armax | now if you’ll excuse me, I should probably go and enjoy my time off :) | 17:46 |
| armax | though now my turkey will probably have a bitter taste | 17:47 |
| ihrachys | armax: ha. I give you thanks anyway. | 17:47 |
| ihrachys | armax: we'll talk it thru next time we clash our swords | 17:47 |
| armax | nothing that bubbly spirit won’t fix | 17:47 |
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| armax | ihrachys: sure, let’s pick this discussion up in a few days | 17:48 |
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| armax | ihrachys: I don’t duel with swords | 17:53 |
| armax | ihrachys: daggers, it makes the fight more personal | 17:53 |
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| ihrachys | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I_Ds2ytz4o | 17:54 |
| ihrachys | btw for those still with us, there is another gate fix in review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402023/ | 17:56 |
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| ihrachys | armax: some wise man told me holidays are sacred | 18:01 |
| armax | ihrachys: you are right, I have an excuse though | 18:02 |
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| armax | ihrachys: sick toddler relegated me to being stuck at home | 18:02 |
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| mlavalle | armax: that's not a good excuse. go play with her :-) | 18:12 |
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| armax | mlavalle: she’s comatose in bed | 18:13 |
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| armax | mlavalle: I would if I could | 18:13 |
| mlavalle | armax: that's too bad. Hope Sonia recovers soon. Happy Thanksgiving! | 18:13 |
| armax | mlavalle: aye you too | 18:14 |
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| ihrachys | armax: btw another recent case where we accommodate for EL is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400348/ in theory we could just say 'use newer keepalived' | 18:34 |
| armax | ihrachys: ack | 18:36 |
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| ihrachys | now that it's off the stadium | 18:59 |
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