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| lucasagomes | numans, morning! | 08:52 |
| lucasagomes | numans, if you have some time, mind taking a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502982/ ? This will allow the neutron api tests to run in the gate (it was being overwritten by other configurations in devstackrc before) | 08:52 |
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| numans | lucasagomes, hey | 08:52 |
| numans | good morninng | 08:53 |
| numans | lucasagomes, welcome back. | 08:53 |
| numans | sure | 08:53 |
| lucasagomes | numans, thanks a lot | 08:54 |
| numans | lucasagomes, looks good to me | 08:54 |
| lucasagomes | numans, I will recheck it as well, since we are now on zuul v3 right ? | 08:54 |
| numans | lucasagomes, yes | 08:54 |
| lucasagomes | I'm seeing strange failures in the gate jobs now | 08:54 |
| lucasagomes | RETRY_LIMIT and so on... | 08:55 |
| numans | oh | 08:55 |
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| numans | lucasagomes, :) | 08:56 |
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| amotoki | igordc: hi | 12:09 |
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| igordc | amotoki: what should I do about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487190/? write a new argparse Action or leave it like it is? | 12:12 |
| igordc | amotoki: the server code will merge soon | 12:13 |
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| amotoki | igordc: are you talking about --port-chains argument? | 12:17 |
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| igordc | amotoki: yep | 12:17 |
| amotoki | igordc: I see two points: the one is about --port-chains vs --port-chain, the second point is some special argparse Action | 12:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Alvarez proposed openstack/networking-ovn master: neutron-ovn-db-sync-util: sync metadata ports https://review.openstack.org/506570 | 12:18 |
| igordc | amotoki: right, having --port-chain doesn't make much sense... maybe it would if it was renamed to something like --branching-point | 12:18 |
| amotoki | igordc: I think the first one is worth considered. I am not sure we need --port-chains (plural) as one argument or not | 12:18 |
| igordc | amotoki: the argparse Action is useful if --port-chains is kept | 12:19 |
| amotoki | igordc: the second point is less important. It is just an implementation thing and if there is no good action we can go as-is | 12:19 |
| igordc | amotoki: because of the complex sintax (dictionary of lists) | 12:19 |
| amotoki | igordc: honestly I haven't got the point of Daire's reply at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487190/6/neutronclient/osc/v2/sfc/sfc_service_graph.py@51 | 12:21 |
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| igordc | amotoki: she made multiple points, which part do you need clarification? | 12:21 |
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| amotoki | igordc: the point I would like to clarify is --port-chain (not --port-chains) makes sense or not. | 12:23 |
| amotoki | igordc: i.e., --port-chain SRC_CHAIN_1:DST_CHAIN_1,DST_CHAIN_2,DST_CHAIN_N --port-chain SRC_CHAIN_2:DST_CHAIN_1,DST_CHAIN_2,DST_CHAIN_N | 12:23 |
| amotoki | igordc: a singular form is a convention OSC usually usses | 12:24 |
| igordc | amotoki: yes, it makes sense.. it's just that the name "port chain" does not make much sense in the singular | 12:24 |
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| igordc | amotoki: oh alright, I can make it singular then... but rename it to --branching-point | 12:25 |
| igordc | amotoki: and there can be N --branching-point's | 12:26 |
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| amotoki | igordc: thanks for clarification | 12:27 |
| igordc | amotoki: thanks amotoki, I'll fix this then | 12:28 |
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| amotoki | igordc: for the argparse action, i am okay with either way. we can improve the implementation later if any | 12:29 |
| amotoki | igordc: thanks | 12:29 |
| igordc | amotoki: great | 12:29 |
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| tmorin | bcafarel: yes, lots of small things broke with zuulv2/v3 update... :-/ | 12:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Édouard Thuleau proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas master: Implements a plugable backend driver https://review.openstack.org/480265 | 14:02 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: ping | 14:21 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: pong | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: welcome back, how was Italy? | 14:21 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: I enjoyed a lot. The weather was nice too | 14:22 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: I have two questions: 1) If we moved the drivers meeting to night your time, how late at night would you be willing to attend the meeting? | 14:23 |
| mlavalle | I am not saying we are going to move it. I am just exploring options | 14:23 |
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| mlavalle | or do you prefer the current time? | 14:24 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: which timeslot do you think? | 14:24 |
| mlavalle | maybe like this time | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | is that too late for you? | 14:25 |
| amotoki | 15UTC is okay (0am here). 16UTC can be depending on day | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | do you prefer the current time or do you prefer to move it to nigh your time? | 14:25 |
| amotoki | I am just afraid it is a bit early in PST if we move it to the late night in my side | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | ok | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | as I said, not moving it, just trying to understand your flexibility | 14:26 |
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| amotoki | mlavalle: thanks for caring it | 14:27 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: second question: last week I sent this email while you were on vacation: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122661.html | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | would you be willing to volunteer? it would only be one week every 3 months, more or less | 14:29 |
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| amotoki | mlavalle: just added my name to the etherpad | 14:30 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: thanks :-) | 14:30 |
| amotoki | perhaps it would be similar frequency as we had before | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | but more predictable | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | and we don't have to blush every week when a volunteer is requested ;-) | 14:32 |
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| amotoki | yeah, really nicer | 14:34 |
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| mlavalle | sean-k-mooney: thanks for responding to the email I sent you last night. please be aware of latest message from mriedem: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/122967.html | 14:40 |
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| sean-k-mooney | mlavalle: yes just read that now, i then to work late so i usally have a good overlap with us time zones so i should be on irc when they get to the review | 14:42 |
| mlavalle | sean-k-mooney: :-) | 14:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ali Sanhaji proposed openstack/neutron master: Adding TOS mark and inheritance in OVS and LB tunnels outer header https://review.openstack.org/501267 | 14:56 |
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| davidsha | tmorin: ping | 15:06 |
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| tmorin | hi davidsha! | 15:06 |
| davidsha | Hey, how are you? | 15:06 |
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| tmorin | davidsha: not bad thx, trying to achieve things despite zuulv3 breakage (zuulv3 seems to be absolutely great, but the transition is not totally smooth) | 15:07 |
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| tmorin | you ? | 15:07 |
| davidsha | tmorin: Similar problem, working on flow manager and realizing some of the optimizations I made were not py35 compatible -_- | 15:08 |
| tmorin | davidsha: :-/ | 15:08 |
| davidsha | tmorin: I was just wondering was there any discussion on the common classifier on friday? just doing up the agenda for tomorrow. | 15:09 |
| davidsha | friday of the ptg* | 15:09 |
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| tmorin | davidsha: yes, there were, I had in mind to report/share, but then got swamped... | 15:10 |
| tmorin | davidsha: let me retrieve my notes | 15:10 |
| tmorin | davidsha: that was not non friday btw, I had left already | 15:10 |
| davidsha | tmorin: Ok, fair enough. this was outside of the live stream was it? | 15:11 |
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| tmorin | davidsha: yes, let me a minute to paste my raw notes in an etherpad | 15:13 |
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| davidsha | tmorin: Thanks! | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | davidsha: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-queens-ptg-ccffwaas-raw-notes-tmorin | 15:16 |
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| tmorin | ping me about whatever would be obscure to you | 15:16 |
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| davidsha | tmorin: thanks, I appreciate xkcd comic for clarity ;) | 15:18 |
| tmorin | davidsha: I couldn't help :) | 15:18 |
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| mlavalle | davidsha, ralonsoh: thanks for volunteering to be bug deputy. With your addition is will be a little less frequently than once very 3 months \o/ | 15:20 |
| lbragstad | mlavalle: o/ | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | lbragstad: sup? | 15:20 |
| lbragstad | mlavalle: couple quick questions for you about neutron-like repositories | 15:21 |
| davidsha | mlavalle: No prob, happy to help! | 15:21 |
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| lbragstad | mlavalle: we have several neutron/networking repositories listed in the policy burndown chart | 15:21 |
| lbragstad | https://www.lbragstad.com/policy-burndown/ | 15:21 |
| lbragstad | i'm wondering if any of those are false positives that can be removed? | 15:22 |
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| lucasagomes | numans, russellb hopefully this will unblock the zuul v3 failures in the networking-ovn gate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508911/ | 15:22 |
| lucasagomes | failures being, example: http://logs.openstack.org/31/507031/1/gate/openstack-tox-py27/8511859/tox/py27-1.log | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | lbragstad: all the networking-* and neutron-* ones are real | 15:23 |
| lucasagomes | maybe there are others... looking now | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | yeah, there are others | 15:23 |
| lbragstad | ok - so they will have some policy work regardless | 15:23 |
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| mlavalle | I also have a question for you, lbragstad. If we merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434997/, am I forcing the neutron-like projects to also adopt policy in code? | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | they import from Neutron | 15:26 |
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| mlavalle | or, can they still keep their etc/policy.json file and adopt policy in code at their own pace | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | ? | 15:27 |
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| lbragstad | mlavalle: i guess i'm not real familiar with neutron's relationships there | 15:28 |
| lbragstad | do other projects rely on neutron to enforce policy/rbac? | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | lbragstad: I don't know the answer for all of them. I'll have to dig. I just wanted to know if there was a quick easy answer... ;-) | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | thanks | 15:30 |
| lbragstad | for projects that act as plugins to neutron - i think the answer would be ues | 15:30 |
| lbragstad | yes* | 15:30 |
| lbragstad | because they are relying on Neutron to let the API pass control to the plugin | 15:31 |
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| lbragstad | but - if another project enforces or has their own policies that protect their APIs, then they need to go through the same process as the rest of the projects | 15:31 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, that makes sense, so garyk's concern in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434997/ is pretty valid. The repo he manages is a plugin | 15:32 |
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| mlavalle | lbragstad: ^^^^ | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | cool, thanks :-) | 15:32 |
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| mlavalle | very helpful | 15:33 |
| lbragstad | mlavalle: anytime - if garyk pops up or has additional questions about the purpose - feel free to pass him my way | 15:33 |
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| mlavalle | lbragstad: thanks!. garyk is based out of Israel, so has little work hours overlap with us. But most likely I'll bug you further on this topic | 15:34 |
| lbragstad | sounds good! | 15:35 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: hello | 15:35 |
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| chandankumar | ihrachys: regarding this review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506669/ do i need to send a patch against https://github.com/openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs for adding those jobs? | 15:36 |
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| ihrachys | chandankumar, yes, this is the new way | 15:48 |
| ihrachys | sadly you were caught in the middle | 15:48 |
| ihrachys | but that's what first milestones are for | 15:48 |
| acormier | Hey guys. I've been trying to understand the semantics of the "routing:external" flag in context of a provider network. For my "public" network, I've created a external provider network which provides floating IP's for a shared tenant network attached to the same router. That works fine, but I have another non-external provider network which is used for VM's to communicate to a VLAN in the lab. It seems to work fine, but to m | 15:48 |
| acormier | e it's still "external" in some sense which seems to confuse me. | 15:48 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: ack, doing that, time to learn new things | 15:48 |
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| chandankumar | ihrachys: we are moving python-tempestconf to upstream https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508502/ | 15:49 |
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| ihrachys | chandankumar, that's nice | 15:49 |
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| acormier | With that lab network, since there is no neutron router in between, is that why I can mark is as non-external? | 15:49 |
| sean-k-mooney | mlavalle: qq regarding https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/pike/portbinding_information_for_nova.html | 15:50 |
| acormier | In other words, external provider networks are always attached to a neutron router and traffic flows through the controller where as with a non-external provider network, the traffic flows directly from the network to the compute nodes. | 15:51 |
| sean-k-mooney | mlavalle: is it your intent to implement this in the ml2 plugin or will this be driver specific | 15:51 |
| sean-k-mooney | mlavalle: the reason i ask is how should nova know it can use this new api. is detecting the api extention enough? | 15:53 |
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| mlavalle | sean-k-mooney: apparently we want to do this directly in ML2. I am digging as to why we decided to do this (I miised that conversation) | 15:54 |
| sean-k-mooney | well doing it in ml2 is proable better then doing it in every driver but that would imply that monolitic/core plugins would not be able to reuse the work from ml2 correct | 15:56 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I agree | 15:56 |
| mlavalle | and that's the most likely direction | 15:57 |
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| sean-k-mooney | ok if we do it in ml2 then the question on line 68 is mute https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375580/2/specs/ocata/approved/neutron-new-port-binding-api.rst correct | 15:58 |
| sean-k-mooney | it will be handeled above the dirver layer so it will be supported for all drivers or none | 15:59 |
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| mriedem | does the neutron api have a concept of reading deleted resources? like in nova we have the SoftDeleteMixin for most tables, so deleting a resource just markes it deleted!=0 and it's out of the main query paths, but it's not really deleted and you can still pull it out of the API (for some things, like instances and flavors) | 15:59 |
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| mlavalle | mriedem: no, we don't do that | 16:00 |
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| mlavalle | sean-k-mooney: ack | 16:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Morin proposed openstack/networking-bagpipe master: [DNM] Adding BGPVPN OVO objects and tests https://review.openstack.org/499951 | 16:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Morin proposed openstack/networking-bagpipe master: [DNM] bgpvpn agent extension changes for supporting OVO https://review.openstack.org/499952 | 16:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron master: Remove ip_lib SubProcessBase._execute() as class method https://review.openstack.org/508586 | 17:29 |
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| chandankumar | ihrachys: still confused about zuulv3 jobs, people are removing legacy jobs from openstack-zuul-jobs and keeping it under project | 17:35 |
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| chandankumar | ihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508950/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508661/ | 17:35 |
| chandankumar | for example | 17:36 |
| chandankumar | so need help on that | 17:36 |
| ihrachys | chandankumar, yeah. I think the new way is actually having it under project tree but project-config is generally dead | 17:38 |
| ihrachys | maybe new jobs should go into project trees, with new format (ansible and stuff) | 17:38 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: Andreas told me to start adding these to neutron repo | 17:40 |
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| chandankumar | ihrachys: let me try that how it goes. | 17:40 |
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| ihrachys | ok. in the end, infra is king here to define what's the way forward | 17:41 |
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| shewless | Hello. I recently had to reboot my network node which has about 1000 routers running on it. It took about 2.5-3 hours to create all of the router namespaces after the reboot. and now it's creating the router interfaces I think | 18:48 |
| shewless | we use ovs | 18:48 |
| shewless | any hints to make this go faster? | 18:48 |
| shewless | :) | 18:48 |
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| amuller | shewless: rootwrap-daemon is a significant speedup | 18:50 |
| amuller | shewless: and you can also tinker with the size of the greenpool thread used to process routers, I believe it defaults to 8 | 18:51 |
| amuller | that requires a code change, it's not configurable | 18:51 |
| amuller | but it impacts the convergence time significantly | 18:51 |
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| shewless | amuller: uuhh. quit | 18:52 |
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| shewless | I am interested in learning more about the rootwrap-daemon and how I could implement it | 18:54 |
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| haleyb | ihrachys: did you notice the neutron-failure-rate dashboard is no longer updating? guessing it's another zuulv3 side-effect | 18:58 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, no. I was away from upstream matters lately. | 18:58 |
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| haleyb | i didn't know there would be a bunch of extra work to do :-/ | 19:00 |
| shewless | Does anyone know can I just set this veriable to true on my compute nodes in nova.conf: use_rootwrap_daemon = True | 19:01 |
| shewless | based on amuller suggestion above? | 19:01 |
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| haleyb | shewless: well, that wouldn't affect neutron. What release is this? I thought recent versions were pretty good | 19:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron master: Remove dead code in L3 HA scheduler https://review.openstack.org/508973 | 19:11 |
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| shewless | mitaka :/ | 19:12 |
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| shewless | haleyb: do you know which service is responsible for creating the router interfaces? | 19:13 |
| shewless | when I create a new stack/router/interface it's working great | 19:13 |
| shewless | but pre-existing routers seem to be missing all interfaces | 19:13 |
| shewless | (if I do a ip addr list inside the router namespace) | 19:14 |
| haleyb | shewless: the l3-agent is responsible, it gets data from the neutron-server when something changes, but does a full sync on startup | 19:15 |
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| shewless | haleyb: thanks! I wonder if my l3-agent needs a kick | 19:17 |
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| shewless | haleyb: after restarting the l3 agent I can see that the routers are getting created with interfaces! | 19:44 |
| shewless | good start | 19:44 |
| shewless | but.. I cannot ping my instances yet. is it possible some routes are missing? or maybe interfaces on the compute node are missing? | 19:44 |
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| haleyb | shewless: you would have to wait for it to fully synchronize to know. But there could be a problem with a VM if it booted while the l3-agent wasn't correctly, you'd have to look at the console. | 19:49 |
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| shewless | haleyb: okay it's almost fully synchronized so I'll wait. It's not just 1 VM.. it's like all of them (over 1000) | 19:51 |
| haleyb | shewless: have you assigned a floating IP and are trying to ping that? | 19:53 |
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| shewless | haleyb: yes a floating IP is already assigned and I am trying to ping it | 19:53 |
| shewless | ooh. I can ping the "gw" IP... that's a start (the -1 of the floating.. ) | 19:53 |
| haleyb | shewless: the DNAT rules for that will be in the network namespace for the router, which the l3-agent is working on | 19:54 |
| shewless | haleyb: so that means I need to wait for l3-agent to sync basically right? | 19:55 |
| shewless | haleyb: aha.. it just started to work. good good. Is it a known problem that on a reboot the l3-agent doesn't seem to come up clean on mitaka? | 19:56 |
| haleyb | shewless: it should have processed some of the routers completely by now, i just don't know | 19:56 |
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| haleyb | shewless: mitaka is EOL upstream, but it should have worked | 19:57 |
| shewless | haleyb: understood.. thanks for the help. Mitaka works great when it's working... if something bad happens and the namespaces need to be recreated we are boned | 19:59 |
| shewless | I hope that is better in later releases :) | 19:59 |
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| shewless | I think "ovn" is supposed to be the wave of the future because it doesn't have to create linux namespaces | 20:03 |
| shewless | I think "ovn" is supposed to be the wave of the future because it doesn't have to create linux namespaces and does away with these agents | 20:03 |
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| haleyb | boden: ping regarding bug 1720046 | 20:09 |
| openstack | bug 1720046 in neutron "vm boot failure because of wrong mac address" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1720046 | 20:09 |
| boden | haleyb; hi | 20:09 |
| haleyb | boden: hi, seems a bug was introduced in neutron-lib get_random_mac(), can you look at that bug? | 20:10 |
| boden | haleyb sure | 20:10 |
| haleyb | the only way to fix it might be to put the old code back into neutron | 20:10 |
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| boden | haleyb I’m not really familiar with the mac generation… you don’t think we can revert the lib change that broke it (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400408/)? | 20:22 |
| boden | I question if anyone is really relying on the “new” functionality added by ^ | 20:23 |
| haleyb | yeah, that was what i was wondering | 20:25 |
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| boden | haleyb: I can take a look | 20:25 |
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