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| olivenwk_ | Hello, I already posted that in #openstack but it is neutron related | 10:52 |
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| olivenwk_ | Hello everyone I have a security question regarding SR-IOV for virtualized ethernet card. As explain in http://www.mulix.org/pubs/misc/sriovsec-tr.pdf an attacker that has been assigned a VF of a NIC for its VM can block the network access for all the VMs using a VF of the same card by sending control flow PAUSE commands at the right interval. Is openstack vulnerable to this kind of attack? or maybe only for SR-IOV with InfiniBand? What is the | 10:52 |
| olivenwk_ | consequence of using the the trusted tag in the passthrough_whitelist? | 10:52 |
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| davidsha | olivenwk_, Might be good to bring this up at the neutron team meeting or at a relevant security meeting | 12:21 |
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| davidsha | most people are based in the US so few would be online atm I'm afraid | 12:22 |
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| olivenwk_ | davidsha, ok thank you, I didn't participate much to openstack meeting before, do they take place on IRC? | 12:23 |
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| davidsha | olivenwk_, yup, you can find the times they're on at on http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ | 12:24 |
| davidsha | times and channels* | 12:25 |
| olivenwk_ | davidsha, there are several neutron meetings, which one do you think would be the most appropriate to this kind of issue? I'm not that familiar to the neutron architecture | 12:28 |
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| davidsha | olivenwk_, I'd say try the Neutron drivers meeting thats on in an hour and 15 mins | 12:44 |
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| hansmoleman | slaweq: does neutron have a concept of a fake ml2 driver like nova's fake virt driver? i've got a single-node devstack faked out with the nova fake virt driver to think it has 2 compute nodes, but networking always fails to bind ports because of the fake compute hosts: | 13:45 |
| hansmoleman | Oct 12 13:36:03 stein neutron-server[23002]: DEBUG neutron.plugins.ml2.drivers.mech_agent [None req-4c36d204-d15e-4fd2-8ecc-d1caeddf289b service neutron] Port e95344b7-7a52-4dc7-a138-8478c24156ac on network dcb6077f-12fa-425a-949c-376e80fefcec not bound, no agent of type Open vSwitch agent registered on host stein2 {{(pid=23188) bind_port /opt/stack/neutron/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/mech_agent.py:101}} | 13:45 |
| hansmoleman | this is mriedem btw | 13:45 |
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| slaweq | hansmoleman: no, there is nothing like that | 13:47 |
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| slaweq | but You can I think easily make "fake" ml2 mechanism driver which will "bind" Your ports | 13:47 |
| slaweq | You have to check how e.g. openvswitch mechanism driver is done and do something similar :) | 13:48 |
| hansmoleman | ok. thankfully the compute api allows you to create servers without networking so i can just do that. i just keep forgetting to use it. | 13:48 |
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| njohnston | olivenwk_: Probably the best thing to do is to submit a bug report and we can discuss it on the bug. Or you can bring it to security team on #openstack-security. The bug link is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+filebug | 14:14 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: haleyb: can You check once again https://review.openstack.org/#/c/606085/ today? | 15:02 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: I addressed Your comments there | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: will do | 15:02 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: thx | 15:02 |
| haleyb | ack | 15:02 |
| slaweq | also I did patch to "fix" this failing functional db migration tests: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/610003/ | 15:03 |
| slaweq | if You can check it too, would be great :) | 15:03 |
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| slaweq | haleyb: ping, I found one more issue in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/597567/ - it's described in my last comments, if You would maybe have few minutes to take a look, it would be great as You know this dvr logic much better than I. If not, I will get back to it on Monday | 16:20 |
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| haleyb | slaweq: i will try and look, i see your comment | 16:31 |
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| njohnston | rubasov: ping | 18:11 |
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| manjeets | mlavalle, haleyb slaweq hey guys just wanted your opinion on suggestion I posted here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/601600/ | 20:26 |
| manjeets | to me this sounds a lot extra work | 20:26 |
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| haleyb | manjeets: yes, i don't know why blacklist was chosen instead of whitelist, good question | 21:13 |
| slaweq | clarkb: hi | 21:23 |
| slaweq | clarkb: I was talking today with maciejjozefczyk from OVH about Your issue | 21:23 |
| clarkb | slaweq: hello | 21:23 |
| slaweq | clarkb: he told me that they know about some issues with slow neutron on their regions | 21:24 |
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| slaweq | he also found that they had some issue with db nodes today, and told me that this should be fixed (in gra1 I think) | 21:24 |
| slaweq | but I have also one question to You | 21:24 |
| slaweq | how You are usually spawning instances, are You first creating port in neutron and then give this port to nova boot command? | 21:25 |
| clarkb | slaweq: no we let nova create the port | 21:25 |
| slaweq | or You give network_id to nova boot and nova creates port for vm in neutron? | 21:25 |
| slaweq | ok, he told me that all those ports which ianw gave me yesterday don't have device id stored, so we though that maybe You create port first | 21:26 |
| clarkb | pretty sure we don't even when we boot with floating IP clouds I think we let nova handle it | 21:26 |
| clarkb | its all done in shade now so I would haveto double check to be sure | 21:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: ^ do you know off hte top of your head | 21:27 |
| clarkb | reading create_server in shade/openstacksdk I'm pretty sure nova is creating the port | 21:29 |
| slaweq | clarkb: yes, I was just looking at this code too :) | 21:29 |
| clarkb | you have to explicitly pass the port to create_server and I don't think anythingis doing that | 21:29 |
| slaweq | so basically from what they told me is that they know about those problems and are working on it | 21:30 |
| slaweq | if they will need some help from neutron PoV I offered my help of course :) | 21:30 |
| slaweq | if I will know something more I will ping You | 21:31 |
| clarkb | sounds good, and thank you for looking into it. Good to hear it is known and being worked on | 21:31 |
| slaweq | I pointed them some neutron patches which improved api requests a bit recently so they can try to backport them | 21:31 |
| slaweq | but I don't know (anymore) more details about their internals :/ | 21:32 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: ping | 22:27 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: pong | 22:28 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609762/ <-- this should improve speed of our neutron_tempest_plugin scenario tests :) | 22:28 |
| slaweq | just FYI :) | 22:28 |
| mlavalle | cool | 22:28 |
| mlavalle | Thanks | 22:29 |
| mlavalle | I'll take a look later | 22:29 |
| slaweq | thx | 22:29 |
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