| opendevreview | Dai Dang Van proposed openstack/neutron-specs master: Add spec for Distributed DNS Forwarder https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-specs/+/952737 | 07:42 |
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| opendevreview | Dai Dang Van proposed openstack/neutron-specs master: Add spec for Distributed DNS Forwarder https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-specs/+/952737 | 07:44 |
| daidv | Hi ralonsoh haleyb , thanks for guiding me in last driver meeting, I have submited new spec for RFE bug, please take a look. | 07:46 |
| ralonsoh | sure, I'll check it | 07:46 |
| daidv | thanks | 07:51 |
| *** elodilles_pto is now known as elodilles | 07:55 | |
| ralonsoh | bcafarel, hello! If you have a couple of mins, please check these 2 patches (this is the upper one): https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/952664 | 08:31 |
| ralonsoh | thanks! | 08:31 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/os-ken master: Get rid of deprecated datetime.utcfromtimestamp https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-ken/+/952686 | 09:11 |
| opendevreview | Elvira García Ruiz proposed openstack/neutron stable/2024.1: Consider logging options when using OVNdbsync https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/952676 | 09:41 |
| opendevreview | Lajos Katona proposed openstack/neutron master: [eventlet-removal] remove eventlet references from dhcp_agent https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/950499 | 10:18 |
| lajoskatona | Warning: seems like a new bandit release hit Neutron pep8.... | 10:39 |
| lajoskatona | https://pypi.org/project/bandit/#history | 10:39 |
| lajoskatona | The error line is this: Issue: [B311:blacklist] Standard pseudo-random generators are not suitable for security/cryptographic purposes. | 10:41 |
| slaweq | so we will probably need to add it to the ignored list I guess as I don't think we use it for any security/cryptographic use cases in Neutron really | 10:44 |
| slaweq | and thx for the heads up lajoskatona | 10:44 |
| lajoskatona | slaweq: no it catched use of random, but in Neutron we don't use random for crypto, so I think we are on the safe side by ignoring it | 11:01 |
| opendevreview | Fernando Royo proposed openstack/ovn-octavia-provider master: Prevent redirecting traffic to new SHUTOFF backend members https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ovn-octavia-provider/+/951937 | 11:30 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting networking | 13:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Tue Jun 17 13:00:18 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 13:00 |
| haleyb | Ping list: bcafarel, elvira, frickler, mlavalle, mtomaska, obondarev, slaweq, tobias-urdin, ykarel, lajoskatona, jlibosva, averdagu, haleyb, ralonsoh | 13:00 |
| mlavalle | \o | 13:00 |
| rubasov | o/ | 13:00 |
| ykarel | o/ | 13:00 |
| ralonsoh | hello | 13:00 |
| obondarev | o/ | 13:00 |
| haleyb | #announcements | 13:01 |
| haleyb | We are currently in Week R-14 of Flamingo | 13:01 |
| haleyb | Our next milestone in this development cycle will be Flamingo-2, on July 3rd | 13:01 |
| haleyb | Final 2025.2 Flamingo release: October 3rd, 2025 | 13:02 |
| haleyb | #link https://releases.openstack.org/flamingo/schedule.html | 13:02 |
| haleyb | there was also a ML thread on the next PTG kickoff | 13:02 |
| lajoskatona | o/ | 13:03 |
| haleyb | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/FU26JK6VKZNLNK7ZV7SGJF2V4KA37IQW/ | 13:03 |
| haleyb | The next OpenInfra PTG[1] will take place October 27-31, 2025 and registration for the event is now open[2]! | 13:03 |
| haleyb | i have signed-up neutron | 13:03 |
| lajoskatona | +1 | 13:03 |
| haleyb | Reminder: If you have a topic for the drivers meeting on Friday, please add it to the wiki @ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronDrivers | 13:04 |
| haleyb | this week i will be out thursday and friday as there is a holiday in the US, so planned on not having the drivers meeting | 13:04 |
| haleyb | and the last announcement | 13:05 |
| lajoskatona | ack, thanks for reminder / warning | 13:05 |
| haleyb | yesterday was the initial meeting for the OVN BGP meeting, thanks jlibosva for organizing that | 13:06 |
| haleyb | there will be more, so if you would like to attend please ping someone to get added to the invite | 13:06 |
| haleyb | any other announcements? | 13:08 |
| haleyb | ok, we can move on | 13:09 |
| haleyb | #topic bugs | 13:09 |
| haleyb | rubasov was the deputy last week, his report is at | 13:09 |
| haleyb | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/5FDNKLQF6VCCUFQOBI5ANZ7CPAIJXOXH/ | 13:09 |
| rubasov | other than the RFE, all of them are taken care of | 13:10 |
| haleyb | rubasov: yes, that's great, and a slow week :) | 13:10 |
| rubasov | yep, hardly any reports | 13:11 |
| slaweq | it's summer time :) | 13:11 |
| haleyb | the RFE one is | 13:11 |
| haleyb | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2114451 | 13:11 |
| haleyb | i have not looked at it yet | 13:11 |
| rubasov | I was not sure why the author opened a new one, after having the earlier | 13:12 |
| haleyb | [RFE] ports should contain a reference to the segment_id they are bound to | 13:12 |
| rubasov | maybe he considered it a bug, but to me it looked more like an RFE | 13:12 |
| haleyb | rubasov: right, i remember him asking on irc about it and i think i just said it's not there | 13:13 |
| haleyb | if anyone has an opinion on that, especially from a DB perspective, please comment in the bug | 13:13 |
| haleyb | any other bugs to discuss? | 13:14 |
| haleyb | this week the deputy is mlavalle, next week is jlibosva - is that ok for you kuba? | 13:15 |
| mlavalle | on it | 13:15 |
| haleyb | kuba might not be here, thanks mlavalle hopefully another slow week :) | 13:16 |
| haleyb | ok, moving on | 13:16 |
| haleyb | #topic community goals | 13:16 |
| mlavalle | kuba will be off on PTO next week. I'll ping him internally and will let you know his response | 13:16 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: ack, maybe someone can swap, assuming he can do it another week, thanks | 13:17 |
| lajoskatona | I can swap with kuba for next week | 13:18 |
| mlavalle | we might need to shuffle the calendar, because kuba is taking several weeks off | 13:18 |
| haleyb | lajoskatona: thanks, that will probably be a good swap, i now remember he's taking 3+ weeks off from the OVN meeting yesterday | 13:19 |
| haleyb | lajoskatona is the week of July 21st | 13:19 |
| lajoskatona | yes that will be ok for him perhaps, but we cab shuffle more later :-) | 13:20 |
| haleyb | i will swap it in the calendar, thanks lajoskatona! | 13:20 |
| haleyb | ok, back to community | 13:21 |
| haleyb | lajoskatona: i saw some forward progress on the neutronclient changes | 13:21 |
| lajoskatona | yes for Horizon the sec-groups related change was merged, and I have to check the QoS one as that is failing in CI | 13:22 |
| lajoskatona | I beleive the failure is not related, (some volume and compute tests) but have to double check if somehow I break that... | 13:22 |
| lajoskatona | that's it for this topic now | 13:23 |
| haleyb | ack, thanks lajoskatona | 13:24 |
| haleyb | and for reference the horizon QoS patch mentioned is | 13:24 |
| haleyb | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/horizon/+/949764 | 13:24 |
| lajoskatona | thanks | 13:24 |
| haleyb | ralonsoh: i'll let you update eventlet, definitely has made progress | 13:25 |
| ralonsoh | yes, for the OVS patches, I've pushed a new PS | 13:25 |
| ralonsoh | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/937765 | 13:25 |
| ralonsoh | now the OVS agent is working fine but fullstack is completely broken | 13:26 |
| ralonsoh | I think I'm going to suggest to mark fullstack as non voting and fix these test in further patches | 13:26 |
| haleyb | ralonsoh: fullstack related to eventlet or something else? | 13:26 |
| ralonsoh | yes | 13:26 |
| ralonsoh | from the upper patch: https://0152cc80754598f7dd6e-579ffa891605f8b01745396aeb7b7fcc.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/openstack/b4031eeca68d46438edf24bcc9cd1d09/testr_results.html | 13:26 |
| ralonsoh | all OVS related broken | 13:26 |
| ralonsoh | but tempest is working fine, all of them | 13:27 |
| ralonsoh | let me check that first | 13:27 |
| ralonsoh | I would add a topic for the driver meeting | 13:27 |
| ralonsoh | we had many other patches merged for the neutron API, moving the other workers to non-eventlet | 13:28 |
| ralonsoh | we had an issue with oslo.service but 4.2.1 (already approved this release) will fix that | 13:28 |
| ralonsoh | once we have requirements bumped, I'll recheck the patches | 13:28 |
| ralonsoh | and the DHCP agetn patch, by lajoskatona | 13:28 |
| ralonsoh | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/950499 | 13:29 |
| ralonsoh | that's all I have | 13:29 |
| lajoskatona | yes for that I have to jump to functional and fullstakc | 13:29 |
| ralonsoh | functional is avoidable, we can make almost all tests to work | 13:30 |
| ralonsoh | but I have no idea with fullstack, I need to check | 13:30 |
| lajoskatona | ack, I have to check it myself also to see what happens | 13:30 |
| ralonsoh | the problem is that we run all services from a single process, some of them use eventlet, but not others | 13:30 |
| haleyb | thanks for the update. there are links to the review topics on the wiki if anyone has cycles | 13:32 |
| haleyb | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22eventlet-removal%22+project:openstack/neutron+status:open | 13:32 |
| haleyb | there is also one for ovs-agent | 13:32 |
| haleyb | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522bug/2087939%2522+status:open | 13:32 |
| haleyb | thanks everyone for all their work on this | 13:32 |
| haleyb | and if anyone can review this cherry pick - it fixes the metadata agent in 2025.1 | 13:33 |
| haleyb | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/952561 | 13:33 |
| haleyb | related to eventlet | 13:33 |
| ralonsoh | right, important backport | 13:33 |
| haleyb | there is a link to the Neutron Priority dashboard on the wiki, cut/paste here will wrap | 13:35 |
| haleyb | that was all i see for community | 13:35 |
| haleyb | #topic on-demand | 13:36 |
| haleyb | something i forgot during announcements - the change to DCO | 13:36 |
| haleyb | CLA is getting replaced with DCO https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20250520-replace-the-cla-with-dco-for-all-contributions.html | 13:36 |
| haleyb | starting date will be 2025-07-01, but it doesn't hurt to start signing off your commits earlier. the TC is still working on updating the global contributor docs accordingly | 13:36 |
| haleyb | using -s with git commit (or tweaking .gitconfig) should get this behavior | 13:36 |
| mlavalle | is that all we need to do? | 13:37 |
| lajoskatona | you need some gpg key to be ready for it i think, so perhaps you have to play with that to make git happy | 13:38 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: that's all i did. i am not a lawyer but do not believe there is any other sign-off, etc or that it changes things | 13:38 |
| mlavalle | cool | 13:38 |
| haleyb | i am guessing that on a cherry-pick it will automatically add your signed-off-by if you were not the original submittor but have not looked at the doc in a week | 13:39 |
| haleyb | it brings openstack in-line with things like the linux kernel as far as commits go | 13:40 |
| haleyb | ralonsoh: oh i see you had added a topic | 13:41 |
| ralonsoh | yes, one sec | 13:41 |
| ralonsoh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2114819 | 13:42 |
| ralonsoh | so another issue with tags | 13:42 |
| ralonsoh | we found (a customer) that they are not case sensitive | 13:42 |
| ralonsoh | well, at least the DB table charset and collation | 13:42 |
| ralonsoh | (the collation is used to make, for example, text comparisons) | 13:42 |
| ralonsoh | the default ones are not case sensitive | 13:43 |
| ralonsoh | so, we can do one of these actions | 13:43 |
| ralonsoh | 1) chage the collation and charset. But nobody else do it and could have interferences with other tables | 13:43 |
| ralonsoh | 2) make this extension case insensitive: sanitize all tags to lower case and that's all | 13:44 |
| ralonsoh | ^^ the second is easily backportable too | 13:44 |
| haleyb | ralonsoh: is tag just a text string? | 13:45 |
| ralonsoh | yes | 13:45 |
| lajoskatona | is there some common paper for tags in openstack perhaps? | 13:45 |
| ralonsoh | lajoskatona, I'll check that, for sure | 13:45 |
| lajoskatona | this API doc tells that they are case sensitive : https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/tags.html | 13:46 |
| slaweq | https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/tags.html | 13:46 |
| slaweq | now I found it | 13:46 |
| slaweq | and they said that "tags are case sensitive" | 13:46 |
| lajoskatona | not sure if these API sig docs are widely adapted | 13:46 |
| mlavalle | lajoskatona: do you mean role? | 13:46 |
| slaweq | :/ | 13:46 |
| ralonsoh | I would like to know if other projects have this issue too | 13:47 |
| lajoskatona | ralonsoh: +1 | 13:47 |
| ralonsoh | ok, so far I need to do more investigation | 13:48 |
| ralonsoh | if I have this info for the next drivers meeting, I'll ping you | 13:48 |
| ralonsoh | thanks!! | 13:48 |
| haleyb | ack thanks ralonsoh | 13:48 |
| haleyb | anything else to discuss? | 13:49 |
| mlavalle | I do. kuba will be back at work the week of July 14th and he is fine being the deputy that week | 13:49 |
| frickler | just to clarify: DCO is just a line in the commit message, not a gpg signature | 13:49 |
| lajoskatona | frickler: thanks, that is for -S perhaps which some github projects ask for , sorry for confusion | 13:50 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: ack, i will re-arrange the schedule | 13:50 |
| ildikov | I also have a quick ad-hoc topic for today, if there's still time :) | 13:50 |
| haleyb | ildikov: sure, go ahead | 13:50 |
| ildikov | haleyb: thank you! | 13:50 |
| ildikov | I dropped a quick text into the channel yesterday about the new OpenStack Ops Radio Hour meeting series | 13:51 |
| opendevreview | phillip toohill proposed openstack/neutron stable/2024.1: Reduce metadata port lookup log message to warning https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/952767 | 13:51 |
| ildikov | the next one is scheduled for June 27, which is next Friday | 13:51 |
| ildikov | and on the last call people brought up some networking topics, OVN-related and other ones | 13:51 |
| ildikov | and it would be great to have some folks from the Neutron team around for those topics | 13:52 |
| mlavalle | what time? | 13:52 |
| ildikov | it's at 1300 UTC | 13:52 |
| ildikov | meeting agenda and previous notes are here: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack_ops_radiohour | 13:53 |
| mlavalle | is it a video meeting? | 13:53 |
| ildikov | I'm happy to chat more about it outside of the team meeting. I just wanted to raise awareness, and see if people might have any questions I can answer. | 13:54 |
| ildikov | we're using Meetpad, so it is a call, but most people were off camera last time | 13:54 |
| haleyb | it is right before the drivers meeting time-wise | 13:54 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 13:54 |
| ildikov | I understand that might not be the most ideal timing, but at least the two are not colliding | 13:55 |
| ildikov | the call series is set to monthly cadence currently | 13:56 |
| haleyb | ildikov: thanks for the notice, maybe someone will be able to attend, not sure if i have a conflict right now but will check | 13:57 |
| ildikov | we're trying to get ops people and devs together in a more casual setting to sync up and figure things out that might cause challenges in production environments | 13:57 |
| ildikov | haleyb: it would be tremendously helpful to have one or two people from the team, thank you for considering | 13:57 |
| ildikov | I'll check back on the channel as we get closer to the Ops Radio Hour with a reminder and to see who might be able to make it | 13:58 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: I will also try to attend. I'll let you know by Wednesday of next week | 13:58 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: great, thank you! | 13:58 |
| ildikov | and thank you all for allow me a little time on the meeting to bring up and discuss the topic last minute! :) | 13:59 |
| haleyb | ok we are at top of hour | 13:59 |
| haleyb | have a good week everyone! | 13:59 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Jun 17 13:59:45 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:59 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/networking/2025/networking.2025-06-17-13.00.html | 13:59 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/networking/2025/networking.2025-06-17-13.00.txt | 13:59 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/networking/2025/networking.2025-06-17-13.00.log.html | 13:59 |
| ralonsoh | bye | 13:59 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: there is a charge for that. What is your cost center? | 13:59 |
| mlavalle | \o | 13:59 |
| haleyb | o/ | 14:00 |
| lajoskatona | o/ | 14:00 |
| ildikov | \o | 14:00 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: thanks for sorting that out and apologies haleyb for not replying - for some reason my iTerm notifications were turned off ... I need to get a new modern IRC client :) | 14:00 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: haha, noted, I go hide now :) | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: :-) | 14:01 |
| haleyb | jlibosva: np, i still use hexchat which is not modern either | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | phillip toohill proposed openstack/neutron stable/2024.1: Reduce metadata port lookup log message to warning https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/952767 | 14:03 |
| opendevreview | phillip toohill proposed openstack/neutron stable/2024.1: Reduce metadata port lookup log message to warning https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/952767 | 14:04 |
| opendevreview | Lajos Katona proposed openstack/neutron master: Bandit: add B311 to skiplist https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/952768 | 14:05 |
| lajoskatona | slaweq, ralonsoh, haleyb: for pep8/bandit issue ------^ | 14:09 |
| ralonsoh | let me check | 14:09 |
| haleyb | lajoskatona: you did just remove it in 3c557b29f843d6f364e608d2fe71671e0d69b1ea so i'm fine putting it back | 14:12 |
| lajoskatona | oh, cool, so it was me :-) | 14:13 |
| lajoskatona | the issue is that the bandit developers decided to make the test for random methods more strict in the latest release, and we got it today it seems | 14:14 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/os-vif stable/2025.1: OVS Trunk: Add bridge_name to external_ids https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/952567 | 14:22 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/neutron master: DNM == [eventlet-removal] Don't use eventlet in the unit tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/952258 | 14:23 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, haleyb hehehe in Nova we don't have the horrible exception we have in Neutron | 14:36 |
| ralonsoh | but we can store only lower case tags | 14:36 |
| haleyb | so it doesn't follow the api | 14:36 |
| ralonsoh | if, for example, I add --tag t1 | 14:36 |
| ralonsoh | and then --tag T1, the API won't fail | 14:36 |
| ralonsoh | but only "t1" will be stored | 14:37 |
| ralonsoh | if I do that in the other way, T1 and t1, T1 will be stored only | 14:37 |
| ralonsoh | so is a mix between lower and upper, same as in Neutron | 14:37 |
| ralonsoh | but Neutron raises an exception | 14:37 |
| haleyb | it's almost like a case-less compare | 14:37 |
| ralonsoh | exactly | 14:37 |
| ralonsoh | this is because the table collation | 14:38 |
| ralonsoh | utf8mb3_general_ci | 14:38 |
| Matko[m] | "yesterday was the initial meeting for the OVN BGP meeting" May I know where this meeting happened and where I can find logs/notes? thanks | 14:38 |
| slaweq | so maybe it is worth to send email to the openstack-discuss ML to discuss that and maybe change API SIG recommendation | 14:38 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, right, that could be a good idea | 14:38 |
| ralonsoh | I'll ask then. For now, the WA for our customer is "use all lower case tags" hehehehe | 14:38 |
| haleyb | Matko[m]: it was in google meet, not sure what notes were taken. there was a ML thread titled "[neutron] Neutron BGP integration upstream sync" with the meeting info | 14:40 |
| Matko[m] | haleyb: thanks, then no need for me to look further for irc logs =) | 14:42 |
| opendevreview | Lajos Katona proposed openstack/os-vif stable/2024.2: OVS Trunk: Add bridge_name to external_ids https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/952778 | 15:49 |
| opendevreview | Fernando Royo proposed openstack/ovn-octavia-provider master: Prevent redirecting traffic to new SHUTOFF backend members https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ovn-octavia-provider/+/951937 | 15:56 |
| opendevreview | Lajos Katona proposed openstack/neutron master: [eventlet-removal] remove eventlet references from dhcp_agent https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/950499 | 16:02 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin master: Drop fallback to deprecated locale.getdefaultlocale https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/952681 | 18:27 |
| opendevreview | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron stable/2025.1: Bandit: add B311 to skiplist https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/952791 | 21:05 |
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