| lajoskatona | tkajinam: :-) as it touched requirements I think we cannot backport it, is it ok ? | 06:21 |
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| tkajinam | lajoskatona, I think we don't have to backport it, because it cause no functional problem | 06:45 |
| tkajinam | it may be annoying for distributors, though. If they complain it then we can re-consider the policy | 06:45 |
| lajoskatona | tkajinam: ack, thanks for checking | 06:46 |
| lajoskatona | tkajinam: but after thinking on it as it is not a req bump just removing, it seems to be harmless, but I am not sure what the policy tells about such a corner case .... | 07:03 |
| *** dmellad is now known as dmellado | 07:14 | |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/ovn-bgp-agent master: Update master for stable/2025.2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ovn-bgp-agent/+/960730 | 07:32 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/neutron master: Use HA_Chassis_Group in the OVN L3 scheduler https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/947317 | 08:02 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/neutron master: [OVN] ovsdbapp ``chassis_del`` removes ``Chassis_Private`` too https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/961217 | 08:11 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, hi! trivial patch: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/959925 | 08:12 |
| ralonsoh | thanks in advance | 08:12 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/networking-bagpipe stable/2025.2: Update .gitreview for stable/2025.2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/networking-bagpipe/+/960496 | 08:12 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/networking-bagpipe stable/2025.2: Update TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/2025.2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/networking-bagpipe/+/960497 | 08:12 |
| opendevreview | Lajos Katona proposed openstack/neutron master: ip_conntrack: include allowed_address_pairs in CT_MARK_INVALID cleanup https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/960602 | 08:15 |
| rubasov | ovn-octavia folks: Please have a look at / triage this question about a special ovn-octavia-provider use case: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2123848, thanks! | 08:55 |
| opendevreview | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/neutron master: [ML2/OVS] Maintain learning OF rules for GARP/ND in br-tun https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/961354 | 09:09 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin master: Specify network type in ``NetworkSegmentRangeTestJson`` https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/961361 | 10:16 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/neutron stable/2025.1: Unify ``MetadataProxyHandlerBaseSocketServer`` class https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/961095 | 10:25 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/neutron stable/2025.1: Decode the metadata response before sending it to the VM https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/961096 | 10:25 |
| ralonsoh | lajoskatona, slaweq hi! If you have 1 min: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/+/956012 | 10:27 |
| ralonsoh | thanks | 10:27 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/networking-bagpipe master: Update master for stable/2025.2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/networking-bagpipe/+/960498 | 10:34 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/neutron master: Add unique constraint for network segment ranges https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/947898 | 11:05 |
| lajoskatona | ralonsoh: checking | 11:37 |
| ralonsoh | thanks | 11:37 |
| lajoskatona | ralonsoh: this comment in l318 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/+/956012/2/neutron_vpnaas/tests/functional/common/test_scenario.py can't be removed? | 11:43 |
| ralonsoh | lajoskatona, ahhh yes | 11:44 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas master: [eventlet-removal] Removal of eventlet usage in this repository https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/+/956012 | 11:45 |
| opendevreview | aarefiev proposed openstack/neutron master: Tag policy check: rely on service plugin instead of DB https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/961367 | 12:40 |
| opendevreview | aarefiev proposed openstack/neutron master: Tag policy check: rely on service plugin instead of DB https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/946987 | 12:41 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/os-vif stable/2024.1: Do not add taps in trunk bridges to the dead vlan https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/957490 | 12:52 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting networking | 13:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Tue Sep 16 13:00:56 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 13:00 |
| haleyb | hi everyone o/ | 13:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/os-vif stable/2024.1: OVS Trunk: Add bridge_name to external_ids https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/957491 | 13:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/os-vif stable/2025.2: Remove remaining job with Ubuntu Jammy (22.04) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/959855 | 13:01 |
| haleyb | Ping list: bcafarel, elvira, frickler, mlavalle, mtomaska, slaweq, tobias-urdin, ykarel, lajoskatona, jlibosva, averdagu, haleyb, ralonsoh, sahid | 13:01 |
| ralonsoh | hello | 13:01 |
| slaweq | o/ | 13:01 |
| jlibosva | o/ | 13:01 |
| mlavalle | \o | 13:02 |
| lajoskatona | o/ | 13:02 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 13:02 |
| ykarel | o/ | 13:02 |
| haleyb | #announcements | 13:02 |
| haleyb | alright we can get started | 13:02 |
| haleyb | We are currently in Week R-2 of Flamingo | 13:02 |
| haleyb | Final 2025.2 Flamingo release: October 3rd, 2025 | 13:03 |
| frickler | \o | 13:03 |
| haleyb | We just passed the RC1 milestone the week of September 12th, so RC1 is tagged | 13:03 |
| haleyb | Reminder: Release blockers will need to be merged to master, then cherry-picked to stable/2025.2 | 13:03 |
| haleyb | If nothing else merges RC1 will be Flamingo | 13:03 |
| haleyb | So master branch is now open for Gazpacho/2026.1 changes | 13:04 |
| lajoskatona | We are over it (again) :-) | 13:05 |
| haleyb | I'll try and get the usual assortment of zuul job updates out soon | 13:05 |
| haleyb | i.e. skip-level voting, etc | 13:05 |
| haleyb | lajoskatona: yes, in the final stretch | 13:05 |
| slaweq | also we should probably update neutron-tempest-plugin jobs as well | 13:07 |
| lajoskatona | +1 | 13:07 |
| ralonsoh | right | 13:07 |
| haleyb | Having the bulk of the eventlet work behind us is great, thanks for everyone that contributed. We have 6 months to fix any issues and update testing | 13:07 |
| ralonsoh | yeah, I'm going to say the same later in this meeting | 13:07 |
| haleyb | slaweq: yes, i usually find the changes from last cycle or cycle-2 and propose similar | 13:08 |
| haleyb | The next OpenInfra PTG will take place October 27-31, 2025 and registration for the event is now open | 13:09 |
| haleyb | #link https://ptg.openinfra.dev/ | 13:09 |
| haleyb | i did not see an etherpad yet, i will create if i can't find it | 13:09 |
| haleyb | Reminder: If you have a topic for the drivers meeting on Friday, please add it to the wiki @ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronDrivers | 13:09 |
| haleyb | Oh, and continue to use the priorities dashboard for important changes or things ready to merge | 13:12 |
| haleyb | that was all i had for announcements, anything else? | 13:12 |
| haleyb | #topic bugs | 13:13 |
| haleyb | i was the deputy last week, my report is at | 13:13 |
| haleyb | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/FYDKFH4TEUUJBFSLLCBVGD4TRSSYUFBY/ | 13:13 |
| haleyb | We did great assigning bugs, 7/9 and all with reviews | 13:14 |
| haleyb | there were just two functional test failures that we can discuss | 13:14 |
| haleyb | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2122524 | 13:14 |
| haleyb | was this failure just coming from the eventlet removal patch? i couldn't tell from the search | 13:15 |
| ralonsoh | yes, that could be caused by this patch | 13:16 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/neutron master: setup: Remove pbr's wsgi_scripts https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/960834 | 13:16 |
| ralonsoh | without eventlet, the FTs are not stable using sqlite | 13:16 |
| ralonsoh | we can talk about this later | 13:17 |
| haleyb | ralonsoh: ack | 13:17 |
| haleyb | so maybe the other is related | 13:17 |
| haleyb | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2122525 | 13:17 |
| haleyb | could not find subnet in postcommit almost doesn't seem possible | 13:17 |
| ralonsoh | yes, that too | 13:17 |
| haleyb | ok thanks | 13:18 |
| haleyb | any other bugs to discuss, those were the only two i had | 13:19 |
| haleyb | This week rubasov is the bug deputy, next week will be mlavalle - good for both of you? | 13:19 |
| rubasov | yes, on it | 13:19 |
| mlavalle | fine with me as well | 13:20 |
| haleyb | +1 great! | 13:20 |
| haleyb | #topic specs | 13:20 |
| haleyb | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/neutron-specs+status:open | 13:21 |
| haleyb | just a reminder there might be specs in need of review | 13:21 |
| haleyb | i keep forgetting to ping about old ones will do this week | 13:21 |
| haleyb | #topic community goals | 13:22 |
| haleyb | lajoskatona: i think i saw some new neutronclient patches? | 13:22 |
| haleyb | we can loop back | 13:23 |
| lajoskatona | not much | 13:23 |
| lajoskatona | I try to work on the nova patch | 13:23 |
| lajoskatona | to fix the latest failures with it in tempest | 13:24 |
| haleyb | ack, thanks for making progress | 13:24 |
| lajoskatona | the horizon ones I think can be finished when horizon team starts to work on Gazpacho | 13:24 |
| haleyb | and i saw the patch to move Taas code into neutronclient - did we want to merge that, then discuss moving it all into OSC? | 13:25 |
| haleyb | or just skip the middle man? | 13:26 |
| ralonsoh | did we say to move everything to OSC? | 13:26 |
| ralonsoh | didn't* | 13:26 |
| lajoskatona | that was my feeling that we said :-) | 13:26 |
| haleyb | i need to look at notes, but we were giong to discuss at PTG | 13:26 |
| haleyb | yeah, i was surprised to see the patch to tell the truth | 13:27 |
| lajoskatona | I think for now we can merge the taas client code to n-client and perhaps after a discussion on the PTG we can do the move to OSC | 13:27 |
| ralonsoh | ^ agree | 13:27 |
| lajoskatona | perhaps stephenfin will rethink and just run away from so many exotic networking things :-) | 13:28 |
| haleyb | yes, maybe i was confusing - but if we have all in one place might make it all easier is what i was thinking | 13:28 |
| haleyb | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-neutronclient/+/960846 | 13:29 |
| haleyb | ok, and finally eventlet. Looks like great progress on the UT/FT patch | 13:30 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/952258 | 13:30 |
| ralonsoh | yes, the patch is finally passing the CI, but at what cost | 13:31 |
| ralonsoh | I've documented that in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/952258/55/doc/source/eventlet_deprecation/index.rst | 13:31 |
| ralonsoh | in a nutshell: | 13:31 |
| ralonsoh | unit tests: there are some that need to be refactored, not big deal | 13:31 |
| ralonsoh | functional tests: this is a drama. Nothing related to ml2/ovs is working | 13:31 |
| ralonsoh | I've commented that in this document | 13:31 |
| ralonsoh | that would need, if possible, a huge refactor | 13:32 |
| ralonsoh | and of course, this is not stable | 13:32 |
| ralonsoh | for example: py310 is stable with concurrency=7 | 13:32 |
| ralonsoh | and functional job will need constant attention during the next cycle | 13:32 |
| ralonsoh | we, maybe, will disable it temporarily (but not for now) | 13:33 |
| ralonsoh | that's all, please check and comment the patch | 13:33 |
| lajoskatona | I have also seen such instabilities with stadiums (where I tried to remove eventlet) | 13:33 |
| ralonsoh | lajoskatona, but also related to the ml2/ovs stuff | 13:33 |
| lajoskatona | yes | 13:33 |
| ralonsoh | we can't test, right now, anything in FTs with the OVS agent | 13:34 |
| haleyb | not being able to kill the threads is a major change | 13:34 |
| ralonsoh | and how python deal with the signals (only in main thread) | 13:35 |
| ralonsoh | and os-ken, that doesn't work well at all in FT | 13:35 |
| ralonsoh | the communication is usually broken between the client and the OF server attending the requests | 13:35 |
| * haleyb is reading the deprecation note | 13:37 | |
| ralonsoh | ^^ please feel free to add any other comment needed in that document | 13:37 |
| lajoskatona | thanks, I will check it | 13:38 |
| haleyb | related to this is the etherpad you created | 13:39 |
| haleyb | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/migrate_Neutron_fullstack_to_Tempest | 13:39 |
| ralonsoh | lajoskatona created it | 13:39 |
| ralonsoh | yes, we also need to address that | 13:39 |
| lajoskatona | not easy, I pushed a test patch, but didn't have time recently to go back to that topic | 13:40 |
| lajoskatona | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/953900 | 13:40 |
| ralonsoh | just to be clear, with the eventlet removal, the testing has been reduced | 13:40 |
| haleyb | yes, understood, and it especially impacts ml2/ovs | 13:41 |
| haleyb | let's get reviews on the patch since it is a large change and will probably start having merge conflicts otherwise | 13:43 |
| haleyb | thanks for the updates | 13:43 |
| haleyb | #topic on-demand | 13:44 |
| haleyb | i saw one topic from jlibosva | 13:44 |
| haleyb | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/960892 | 13:44 |
| jlibosva | yeah, maybe could have been discussed on ML or normally in the channel but here we go :) | 13:44 |
| ralonsoh | I would go a step forward: same as we create a fixture for NB and SB for each OVN test, we can do the same for the OVS DB, in order to isolate the running OVS DB | 13:45 |
| jlibosva | tl;dr: while working on some functional tests for OVN agent BGP extension I noticed the functional test for the OVN agent use the system ovsdb-server instead of a custom one, and since I needed to test interaction between Open_vSwitch table, that is unique, and the agent, I found it out | 13:45 |
| jlibosva | later I found out that with the dedicated ovsdb-server per test there is a problem when we want to test interaction between the agent and openflow rules, so in this case the system ovsdb would be better. so there are tradeoffs - I sent the patch out just because I thought everyone would benefit of it but now I'm not sure, so this is a call for opinions :) I'd be fine | 13:47 |
| jlibosva | abandoning the patch and use the dedicated ovsdb server only per the test interactig with open_vswitch table | 13:47 |
| jlibosva | ralonsoh: thanks, I thought the same, that's exactly what the patch does | 13:47 |
| ralonsoh | but only for the OVN agent, I'm saying for all tests importing TestOVNFunctionalBase | 13:48 |
| jlibosva | ah, i see | 13:48 |
| jlibosva | I'm not convinced it's needed even for the OVN agent, as maybe isolation on the bridge level seems to have been sufficient so far | 13:48 |
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| ralonsoh | this is why br-int can be renamed | 13:49 |
| haleyb | ok, i guess we can discuss more in the review | 13:53 |
| jlibosva | ack, thanks! | 13:54 |
| haleyb | sure, and anything that can make tests more stable with isolation is a good thing | 13:54 |
| haleyb | any other topics to discuss? | 13:54 |
| haleyb | oh, i will be out this Thursday if you're looking for me, will set my nick accordingly. Back on Friday | 13:55 |
| ralonsoh | sorry yes | 13:55 |
| ralonsoh | one quick heads-up | 13:55 |
| haleyb | sure | 13:55 |
| ralonsoh | the patches are self-explanatory | 13:56 |
| ralonsoh | setup: Remove pbr's wsgi_scripts: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/960834 | 13:56 |
| ralonsoh | Migrate setup configuration to pyproject.toml: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/960835 | 13:56 |
| ralonsoh | Move api-paste.ini, rootwrap.conf files: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/961130 | 13:56 |
| ralonsoh | (sorry for the indentation) | 13:56 |
| ralonsoh | that's all | 13:56 |
| haleyb | i think i approved the one first in the series today and they are in the gate :) | 13:56 |
| haleyb | thanks for attending everyone, and have a good week! | 13:57 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 13:57 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Sep 16 13:57:51 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:57 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/networking/2025/networking.2025-09-16-13.00.html | 13:57 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/networking/2025/networking.2025-09-16-13.00.txt | 13:57 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/networking/2025/networking.2025-09-16-13.00.log.html | 13:57 |
| ralonsoh | bye | 13:57 |
| lajoskatona | Bye | 13:58 |
| slaweq | o/ | 13:58 |
| jlibosva | bye | 13:58 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh haleyb lajoskatona please take a look at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/961354 when You will have few minutes | 13:59 |
| slaweq | thx in advance | 13:59 |
| ralonsoh | sure | 13:59 |
| mlavalle1 | \o | 13:59 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/neutron-vpnaas master: [eventlet-removal] Removal of eventlet usage in this repository https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/+/956012 | 14:06 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/neutron master: Migrate setup configuration to pyproject.toml https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/960835 | 14:09 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/neutron master: Open the 2026.1 (Gazpacho) DB branch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/959925 | 15:00 |
| froyo | rubasov, I will take a look | 15:03 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin master: Drop explicit description about default values https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/961376 | 15:04 |
| rubasov | froyo: thanks! | 15:04 |
| *** logan_ is now known as Guest26694 | 16:05 | |
| opendevreview | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron master: bgp: Introduce service plugin https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/958100 | 16:45 |
| opendevreview | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron master: bgp: Introduce service plugin https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/958100 | 17:31 |
| opendevreview | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron master: bgp: Introduce Main router and chassis router commands https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/959890 | 18:30 |
| opendevreview | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron master: bgp: Introduce BGP chassis commands https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/960422 | 20:13 |
| opendevreview | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron master: bgp: OVN agent BGP extension https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/960895 | 20:13 |
| opendevreview | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron master: bgp: Add openflow configuration for BGP bridges https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/961293 | 21:41 |
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