| opendevreview | Lajos Katona proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas master: CI: Add required_projects to unit test jobs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-fwaas/+/973079 | 07:05 |
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| opendevreview | Gwangseok Jeon proposed openstack/neutron master: Fix lazy field access in get_port(s) to prevent premature relationship loading https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/948306 | 07:05 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/neutron master: OVN ``Port_Binding.additional_chassis`` is supported since v22.09.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/975251 | 07:07 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/neutron master: OVN ``NAT.gateway_port`` is supported since v22.06.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/975256 | 07:16 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/neutron master: OVN ``NAT.gateway_port`` is supported since v22.06.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/975256 | 07:18 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/neutron master: OVN ``Meter.fair`` is supported since v20.12.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/975257 | 07:18 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin master: Test patch 972982 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/975490 | 07:20 |
| opendevreview | Eduardo Olivares proposed openstack/neutron master: WIP: new job tempest-multinode-with-bgp https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/962188 | 07:35 |
| opendevreview | Pierre Libeau proposed openstack/neutron master: Add default policy on device_id param create_port https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/861169 | 07:45 |
| ralonsoh | folks, if you have 1 min: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/973366 | 08:04 |
| ralonsoh | thanks in advance | 08:05 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/neutron-fwaas master: CI: Add required_projects to unit test jobs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-fwaas/+/973079 | 08:24 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/neutron-vpnaas master: Use project_id in some base create_* API calls https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/+/975479 | 09:31 |
| opendevreview | Eduardo Olivares proposed x/whitebox-neutron-tempest-plugin master: Do not unset 'is_controller' parameter from discovered nodes https://review.opendev.org/c/x/whitebox-neutron-tempest-plugin/+/975494 | 09:49 |
| *** ykarel_ is now known as ykarel | 09:53 | |
| opendevreview | Eduardo Olivares proposed x/whitebox-neutron-tempest-plugin master: Do not disable 'is_controller' parameter from discovered nodes https://review.opendev.org/c/x/whitebox-neutron-tempest-plugin/+/975494 | 09:57 |
| mstinsky | Greetings, I have 2 patches open which fixes broken ovn vpnaas implementation. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/+/963490 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/+/963487 I am unsure how I could get some priority on it for reviews. Best Regards Max | 11:31 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/neutron-vpnaas master: Fix ipsec config updates not working https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/+/963490 | 12:53 |
| haleyb | will start in a few minutes, need to let dog out quickly | 13:58 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting networking | 14:02 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Tue Feb 3 14:02:05 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:02 |
| haleyb | Ping list: bcafarel, elvira, frickler, mlavalle, mtomaska, slaweq, tobias-urdin, ykarel, lajoskatona, jlibosva, averdagu, haleyb, ralonsoh | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | \o dog ok now? | 14:02 |
| ralonsoh | hello | 14:02 |
| * bcafarel is tempted to sing "Who Let the Dogs Out" | 14:02 | |
| rubasov | o/ | 14:02 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq is in PTO today | 14:02 |
| lajoskatona | o/ | 14:02 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: she's fine, just crying at the door | 14:03 |
| haleyb | "who who who" | 14:03 |
| * mlavalle sighs of relief | 14:03 | |
| haleyb | so did she :) | 14:03 |
| haleyb | alright, we can get started | 14:04 |
| haleyb | #announcements | 14:04 |
| haleyb | We are in week R-8 of Gazpacho | 14:04 |
| haleyb | #link https://releases.openstack.org/gazpacho/schedule.html is the release schedule | 14:04 |
| haleyb | G3 milestone is week R-5, February 23-27th | 14:05 |
| haleyb | so just 3 weeks away | 14:05 |
| haleyb | please make sure any work for an approved spec is getting wrapped up, or is already proposed | 14:06 |
| haleyb | Just a reminder to use the priority dashboard for anything neutron/networking related | 14:06 |
| haleyb | #link https://tinyurl.com/59z278km | 14:07 |
| haleyb | RP +1 for "ready to merge" changes, RP +2 for gate blockers and similar | 14:07 |
| haleyb | there are a few things there at the moment | 14:07 |
| haleyb | Reminder: If you have a topic for the drivers meeting on Friday, please add it to the wiki @ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronDrivers | 14:08 |
| haleyb | i will not be around this friday, and i see nothing on the agenda, so i will cancel, i'll send an email reminder | 14:08 |
| ralonsoh | we usually have tight quorum | 14:09 |
| haleyb | yup | 14:09 |
| ralonsoh | if you won't be present, it will be better to directly postpone anything for the next friday | 14:09 |
| haleyb | ralonsoh: i do plan on canceling | 14:10 |
| haleyb | last announcement is about PTG, hopefully everyone saw the email from kendall | 14:11 |
| haleyb | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/65JHXUYJJUPSAXPY7AJFR2VYWNZUJTWT/ | 14:11 |
| haleyb | The next OpenInfra PTG[1] will take place April 20-24, 2026 ,,, | 14:11 |
| haleyb | there is a registration link in the email, and it's virtual as usual | 14:12 |
| haleyb | i will sign-up neutron in the survey | 14:13 |
| haleyb | that was all i had, any other announcements? | 14:13 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed x/whitebox-neutron-tempest-plugin master: Retrieve the metadata service name during the resource setup https://review.opendev.org/c/x/whitebox-neutron-tempest-plugin/+/975511 | 14:14 |
| haleyb | #topic bugs | 14:14 |
| haleyb | ykarel was the bug deputy last week, his report is at | 14:14 |
| haleyb | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/WP7ZNORKXUCGDUNLHYUQSHXGNBRG2YK2/ | 14:15 |
| haleyb | the critical/high/medium are assigned or fixed already :) | 14:15 |
| haleyb | so we have just two to discuss | 14:15 |
| haleyb | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2139416 | 14:16 |
| haleyb | [doc] Document what changes are needed when changing supported Python version | 14:16 |
| haleyb | right, we need to put that in the contributors guide | 14:16 |
| haleyb | i'll see if i can pick it up this week | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | we have several projects (vpaans, taas, etc) and is difficult to remember all the needed changes | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | thanks haleyb! | 14:17 |
| lajoskatona | good idea | 14:17 |
| haleyb | yes, and i just found another yesterday that wasn't testing py313 (vpnaas?) and proposed a patch | 14:18 |
| lajoskatona | we should have an AI bot fr such works :P | 14:18 |
| ralonsoh | for sure ^^ | 14:18 |
| haleyb | if someone has the time for AI they can take that one :) | 14:19 |
| haleyb | a lot is just auditing all the repos and making sure things are running as expected | 14:20 |
| haleyb | next bug | 14:21 |
| haleyb | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2139583 | 14:21 |
| haleyb | neutron-openvswitch-agent native driver: Permanent flow loss after OVS restart due to unhandled 'unknown dpid' during rpc_loop | 14:21 |
| haleyb | ykarel asked for more info, so incomplete at the momend | 14:22 |
| ralonsoh | that usually happens when the OF connection (os-ken) disconnects | 14:23 |
| lajoskatona | I can keep an eye on it, it sounds something our QA team can find sooner or later anyway :-) | 14:23 |
| ralonsoh | maybe it is not reconnecting, but more logs could be useful here | 14:23 |
| lajoskatona | is it master with threading or eventlet? | 14:23 |
| lajoskatona | oh I see flamingo 2025.2 | 14:24 |
| lajoskatona | there we had eventlet still, or am I wrong? | 14:24 |
| haleyb | and i do see the logs, hadn't refreshed the page | 14:24 |
| haleyb | lajoskatona: should be threading, but could have been a bug there as well? | 14:24 |
| ralonsoh | yes, should be threading (native) | 14:25 |
| haleyb | lajoskatona: thanks for keeping an eye on it, i'll watch for now as well | 14:26 |
| haleyb | those were the only bugs i had to discuss, any others? | 14:27 |
| ralonsoh | related to the RPC bug | 14:27 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/974404 | 14:27 |
| ralonsoh | if you have some minutes to review it, thanks! | 14:28 |
| haleyb | sure, it's on my list | 14:28 |
| haleyb | this week otherwiseguy is the deputy, next week is mtomaska - is that good for both? | 14:29 |
| haleyb | although terry isn't in the channel | 14:29 |
| ralonsoh | I'll ping him | 14:30 |
| mlavalle | I'll ping him in slack | 14:30 |
| haleyb | oh, and there was an OVN question on the ML regarding metadata and sriov, i have not had cycles to look, don't know if someone else does | 14:30 |
| haleyb | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/I32KDQUVGD457APA4CTLXVA2BFW3F7JR/ | 14:31 |
| ralonsoh | I'll check it | 14:31 |
| haleyb | ralonsoh: thanks, even if they just file a bug we can track it | 14:32 |
| haleyb | ok, moving on | 14:33 |
| haleyb | #topic specs | 14:33 |
| haleyb | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/neutron-specs+status:open | 14:33 |
| haleyb | i see the PVLAN spec is there, thanks elvira | 14:34 |
| haleyb | there are a few others, not sure if they are ready to merge at the moment, will look later | 14:35 |
| haleyb | #topic community goals | 14:35 |
| haleyb | lajoskatona: any update on the sdk series? | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | otherwiseguy is ok being bugs deputy this week | 14:36 |
| haleyb | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22sdk_for_neutron%22 | 14:36 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: ack, thanks! | 14:36 |
| lajoskatona | yes, I have a chat with Nova team, and they started to review the series | 14:36 |
| lajoskatona | I have a recurring slot in the nova weekly meeting to keep the attention :-) | 14:37 |
| haleyb | woo-hoo :) sorry no dance emojis here | 14:37 |
| haleyb | and thanks for continuing the work! | 14:38 |
| ralonsoh | lajoskatona++ | 14:38 |
| haleyb | we actually had some downstream code we changed to use the sdk, i had pointed at your code for reference | 14:39 |
| lajoskatona | haleyb, thanks, I have to go back check the coming comments also | 14:39 |
| haleyb | ack | 14:40 |
| lajoskatona | so I hope sometimes it will be on master and you can point to that | 14:40 |
| haleyb | ok, moving on | 14:42 |
| haleyb | #topic on-demand | 14:42 |
| * fungi waves | 14:42 | |
| fungi | i added "Bridging the Gap Flamingo Cycle Retrospective" if there's time | 14:42 |
| haleyb | fungi: sure, go ahead, i had a topic can go after | 14:43 |
| fungi | thanks | 14:43 |
| fungi | ildiko posted openstack-wide 2025.2 (flamingo) cycle retrospective contributor/maintainer survey results and metrics to openstack-discuss last month: | 14:43 |
| fungi | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/message/XZZYFHMUCB3IZU5AXM366AY7WJXQMTBX/ Bridging the Gap Flamingo Cycle Retrospective Survey Results | 14:43 |
| fungi | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/message/FD4JALJN7OB2YNBUVWCPZZ6YNJMIL2JT/ Bridging the Gap Flamingo Cycle Retrospective Metrics Analysis | 14:43 |
| fungi | i and the other community managers on the openinfra foundation staff have also been digging into team-specific details and i'm doing a round of outreach similar to last cycle, to go over how things may have changed | 14:43 |
| fungi | the neutron team had 2 contributors and 1 maintainer submit survey responses; while this is more than most other teams had, i'd still like to find a way to get it in front of more folks next time | 14:43 |
| fungi | both of the contributors self-identified as being new to neutron, and indicated that they each contribute to one other open source project as well | 14:44 |
| fungi | average ratings on the contributor survey questions were positive overall, with actionable reviewer feedback coming in highest at 4.5 out of 5 and testing reliability the lowest with 2.5, but both diverged widely in their experiences | 14:44 |
| fungi | when analyzing the survey responses, we found it interesting that the two contributors gave very different ratings, so maybe there was some inconsistency between the interactions they encountered (hard to say with so few responses) | 14:44 |
| fungi | ease of getting reviewers to look at their changes was cited as the biggest challenge by both though | 14:44 |
| fungi | the new survey questions about priorities were insightful: both contributors followed prioritization through launchpad blueprints and discussions in irc or the mailing list, while one of them also mentioned gerrit change topics | 14:44 |
| fungi | this mostly overlapped the maintainer's response about priority tracking, though they called out specs first, and also review-priority votes in gerrit (neither of which were mentioned by the contributors) | 14:44 |
| fungi | the rankings on the one maintainer survey response was high, all 4 or 5 out of 5, though like the contributors they noted struggles getting reviews on their changes from other maintainers | 14:44 |
| fungi | as for challenges reviewing the work of others, they called out unresponsive change proposers, changes that weren't a priority for the team, and to parts of the code outside their area of expertise, highlighting the project's complexity | 14:44 |
| fungi | metrics: active maintainer count fell by 11% while reviewer count rose by 6%, though more generally both numbers have been on a steady decline over the past 5 release cycles | 14:45 |
| fungi | the team closed more changes than were open in flamingo (unlike epoxy), though the overall number of both also fell by around 8-9% from the volume in the previous cycle, suggesting the workload might have decreased somewhat at least | 14:45 |
| fungi | but all three respondents (the contributors and maintainer) pointed at review inattention as a continuity, which has been fairly common across all the projects that got survey responses, and paints a different picture | 14:45 |
| fungi | related, the time to merge and time to review interestingly both saw slower median values but were faster on average (mean), which implies an increase in consistency (and were better than every other recent cycle except epoxy) | 14:45 |
| fungi | overall, statistics for flamingo were more like those in dalmatian, except that there were more active maintainers and reviewers in the dalmatian cycle, so it's possible epoxy was more of an outlier | 14:45 |
| fungi | though epoxy looked superficially similar to caracal... maybe this is a side effect of the slurp/not-slurp release cadence playing out? | 14:45 |
| fungi | the maintainer response about project complexity and also about changes being outside their sphere of expertise/comfort zone echoed similar concerns raised in epoxy too, so maybe there's a missing maintainer onramp or similar opportunities | 14:45 |
| fungi | the community managers have been distilling feedback from last year's discussions, and are working on compiling a concise set of techniques/recommendations for improving communication and efficiency, which i can get into more next week | 14:46 |
| fungi | we're also hoping to get some case studies done in concert with successful contributors and maintainers to highlight how specific practices and behaviors help them achieve better throughput, in hopes of being able to replicate them | 14:46 |
| fungi | anyway, that was a quick dump, i know it's a lot to take in but i didn't want to eat up too much of your meeting, so i'll put this on the agenda again for next week to give everyone time to digest and come up with questions or ideas | 14:46 |
| fungi | though i'm happy to answer any immediate feedback now if there's time, otherwise i'll cede the floor to haleyb | 14:46 |
| haleyb | i can't say i looked at the survey results, not sure if others had and have questions? | 14:47 |
| haleyb | i can look at the links later | 14:48 |
| ralonsoh | no questions, thanks for the info | 14:49 |
| fungi | my pleasure! | 14:49 |
| lajoskatona | not from me, perhaps we can add it to the coming PTG agenda to spend few minutes on it as part of the retrospective? | 14:49 |
| haleyb | thanks fungi, and i guess it's also a reminder to have more of us fill out the survey | 14:49 |
| fungi | wanted to get it in front of folks to mull over, then i'll try to check back in next week | 14:50 |
| haleyb | lajoskatona: that would be a good idea as well | 14:50 |
| fungi | and yes, of course, please do, we'll try to have the gazpacho survey out around rc week | 14:50 |
| fungi | i hope we can have some base analysis for a gazpacho retrospective around or just after the ptg | 14:51 |
| fungi | but we haven't worked out a precise schedule for thatquite yet | 14:51 |
| haleyb | I had one topic for on-demand as well | 14:52 |
| haleyb | we had two similar patches for fixing a floating IP issue that was seen | 14:53 |
| haleyb | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/975012 | 14:53 |
| haleyb | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/970865 | 14:53 |
| haleyb | i wasn't sure if anyone had an opinion on one versus the other | 14:53 |
| haleyb | and they have separate bugs linked and descriptions, so a double-check that are fixing the same thing would help me :) | 14:54 |
| ralonsoh | both LP bugs are the same? | 14:54 |
| haleyb | ralonsoh: different bugs, but i think they seemed related | 14:55 |
| haleyb | both are trying to create servers in the same AZ | 14:56 |
| haleyb | anyways, that was all i had | 14:58 |
| haleyb | other topics? | 14:58 |
| haleyb | ok, thanks for attending, have a great week everyone! | 14:58 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Feb 3 14:58:47 2026 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/networking/2026/networking.2026-02-03-14.02.html | 14:58 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/networking/2026/networking.2026-02-03-14.02.txt | 14:58 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/networking/2026/networking.2026-02-03-14.02.log.html | 14:58 |
| ralonsoh | bye | 14:58 |
| lajoskatona | o/ | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | \o | 15:00 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/neutron master: OVN ``Meter.fair`` is supported since v20.12.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/975257 | 16:02 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/neutron master: Use project_id in HANetworkConcurrentDeletion() https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/974247 | 16:13 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/neutron master: Drop redundant description of default values https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/972724 | 16:22 |
| frickler | haleyb: fyi the current acls for gerrit only allow neutron-core to vote Review-Priority. you could amend the acl to allow anyone to set this if you want, though | 16:28 |
| haleyb | frickler: ah, didn't know that, makes sense given the comment on ML | 16:32 |
| opendevreview | Pierre Libeau proposed openstack/neutron master: Set default policy on device_id for create_port/update_port https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/861169 | 16:36 |
| opendevreview | Lajos Katona proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing master: [S-RBAC] New default API policies for n-d-r https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing/+/948465 | 17:50 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/neutron master: Add TXT records to dnsmasq https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/950486 | 18:20 |
| opendevreview | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron master: WIP: new job tempest-multinode-with-bgp https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/962188 | 19:49 |
| opendevreview | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron master: bgp: Don't include all bridge IPs in openflow https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/975567 | 19:50 |
| opendevreview | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron master: bgp: Use UpdateLocalOVSEvent https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/975570 | 20:13 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/neutron-lib master: Remove tenant_id from HANetworkConcurrentDeletion() https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-lib/+/974248 | 20:38 |
| opendevreview | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron master: Use project_id key in port plugin code https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/972982 | 21:35 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin master: Fix FloatingIpTestCasesAdmin.test_two_vms_fips https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/970865 | 23:35 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/neutron master: Add information to network ip availabilities https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/965083 | 23:35 |
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