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| klindgren | Does nayone here use PBR to get their version numbers for packages. IE: python setupu.py --version or python setup.py egg_info and parse the versionn number from there? IF so how are you dealing with the fact that newer versions of PBR >0.11 on handle 3 version numbers? We generate 4 version number (w.x.y.z) tags where w.x.y is from upstream and .z means something specific to us. PBR is forcing 3 version tags and the fo | 14:56 |
| klindgren | urth number is always converted to .devZ | 14:56 |
| klindgren | with the new semver rules .devZ releases are to be evaluated lower than other releases (bascially all others). | 14:57 |
| klindgren | 1.0.0.dev8 < 1.0.0.dev9 < 1.0.0.a1.dev3 < 1.0.0.a1 < 1.0.0.b2 < 1.0.0.c1 < 1.0.0 | 14:59 |
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| klindgren | since upstream is currently releasing with 3 version tags - it basically gives us no room to tag and correctly version our own software. | 15:00 |
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| mdorman | mfisch: you around? | 16:08 |
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| jlk | If you haven't seen it, http://cube-drone.com/comics/c/alien-geometries | 17:18 |
| klindgren | Seen it - but still funny | 17:24 |
| klindgren | The video of it being created was slightly interesting - his comments around it being this horribly complex diagram | 17:25 |
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| mgagne | As anyone actually tested this "feature" ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98488/ | 19:15 |
| mgagne | I found out that if you have any form of anti-spoofing enabled, having 2 vnics with IPs from the same subnet doesn't work. Linux will always reply to arp and requests using one of the interface and anti-spoofing will block the reply. Lets say you try to ping vnic #2, arp reply will be done through vnic #1 and will be blocked. If you disable the anti-spoofing, the traffic will always go through vnic #1 anyway. | 19:19 |
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| klindgren | mgagne, we haven't but I think that can be fixed by in the os by setting the arp_announce and arp_ignore | 23:23 |
| mgagne | klindgren: in fact, there is no easy way to fix it in Linux according to SO answers I found | 23:24 |
| mgagne | klindgren: due to the way the tcp stack is coded in linux | 23:24 |
| klindgren | even arp_announce=1 and arp_ignore=2 | 23:25 |
| klindgren | ? | 23:25 |
| mgagne | I tried already =) | 23:25 |
| mgagne | http://serverfault.com/questions/415304/multiple-physical-interfaces-with-ips-on-the-same-subnet | 23:25 |
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| klindgren | so that stopped arp from being dumb - but now you have routing stuff causing pain | 23:28 |
| klindgren | whats your use case around multiple nics on the same network? - curious | 23:30 |
| klindgren | as I dont have an answer for how to solve it in nova. Unless you find a way to make both of them share a common anti-spoofing rule setup | 23:31 |
| mgagne | klindgren: just testing the feature =) | 23:34 |
| klindgren | mgagne, kk | 23:34 |
| mgagne | klindgren: but found out that it makes no sense | 23:34 |
| klindgren | does this also tie into neutron? | 23:35 |
| mgagne | ? | 23:35 |
| klindgren | if so you could always update allowed_address_pairs on neutron to permit the traffic from either nic | 23:35 |
| klindgren | was just looking at the doc impact: New neutron.allow_duplicate_networks configuration option | 23:36 |
| mgagne | it's in nova no? | 23:36 |
| klindgren | it is - but if you are using neutron's security groups you could fix the anit-spoofing stuff | 23:36 |
| klindgren | to allow additional traffic | 23:37 |
| mgagne | yea but then, what's the point of all this =) | 23:37 |
| klindgren | via allowed_address_pairs | 23:37 |
| mgagne | traffic will go through first interface anyway | 23:37 |
| klindgren | allowing an instance | 23:37 |
| klindgren | to have multiple vnics on same network is useful for NfV service | 23:37 |
| klindgren | instances and in that case this newly introduced nova flag should | 23:37 |
| klindgren | be set to True. | 23:37 |
| mgagne | better use floating IP if your purpose is to have more ips | 23:37 |
| klindgren | I assume a NFv requrirement to hanve 2 uplinks | 23:38 |
| klindgren | *shrug* | 23:38 |
| mgagne | klindgren: could be that NFV boots other OS than linux which has better routing | 23:38 |
| klindgren | possible | 23:38 |
| mgagne | anyway =) | 23:38 |
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| klindgren | iirc windows has a model that works well for that use case | 23:38 |
| klindgren | but windows is deficient in networking pretty much anywhere else in my xp | 23:39 |
| mgagne | :D | 23:39 |
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