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balajin | is there a regular operators syncup? | 16:27 |
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balajin | if yes, where can i find more details | 16:27 |
mdorman | do you mean like an irc meeting? or an in-person meet up? | 16:31 |
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mgagne | anyone having issues with Nova Kilo where the flavor is not properly updated after a resize? | 17:32 |
mgagne | with cells =) | 17:39 |
mgagne | found the issue. the instance_extra.flavor field is not properly updated although the instances.instance_type_id field is. | 17:43 |
mgagne | so the compute cell is properly updated with the new? flavor object but api cell still has what looks like an old version of the flavor model. | 17:57 |
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mgagne | jaypipes: any hint about that one? I'm looking for input from nova without much success ^ | 18:21 |
jaypipes | mgagne: unfortunately, I don't know about that. alaski might be able to help with cells stuff. | 18:21 |
mgagne | jaypipes: as long as I have someone knowledgeable to poke, I'm happy thanks | 18:22 |
mgagne | alaski: ping ^ | 18:22 |
alaski | mgagne: hi | 18:22 |
mgagne | alaski: I'm having issue with cells + resize (flavor) | 18:23 |
alaski | I haven't seen that before, but we limit resizes so they're not done often | 18:23 |
mgagne | the new flavor looks to not be properly updated in the instance_extra.flavor field at the api cell | 18:23 |
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mgagne | I saw some bugs about it but they all got fixed in kilo :-/ | 18:24 |
alaski | are you running stable/kilo? | 18:25 |
mgagne | running from 2015.0.1 tag | 18:25 |
mgagne | due to me using ubuntu packages | 18:25 |
balajin | ha, mdorman isnt around | 18:25 |
balajin | in real life is very difficult but even if there is an irc meetup once a month, it would be good | 18:26 |
balajin | feeding into the topics for mid cycle summit / summit | 18:26 |
alaski | mgagne: I'm not sure what that corresponds to, but let me look at kilo code | 18:27 |
mgagne | alaski: I tested with boot from volume. We retry with local disk and check if it changes anything | 18:30 |
alaski | mgagne: I'm pretty sure you're going to need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176518/, or parts of it | 18:30 |
mgagne | alaski: sure, will try now | 18:31 |
alaski | mgagne: what's likely happening is the instance update goes to the parent cell, but instance_update_at_top in Kilo doesn't handle flavor updates | 18:31 |
mgagne | alaski: bug title sure reflects what it tries to fix :D https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1460350 | 18:31 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1460350 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Cells: Race deleting instance can lead to instances "undeleted" at the top" [Low,Fix released] - Assigned to melanie witt (melwitt) | 18:31 |
alaski | mgagne: :) it addressed a number of things but modestly mentioned only one bug | 18:32 |
mgagne | hehe, trying to patch, lot of offsets and rejections :D | 18:33 |
alaski | there were a lot of cells improvements that happened leading up to that change | 18:33 |
mgagne | is it a dead-end for me? :D | 18:34 |
alaski | well, if you have the option of pulling code from git at or after that commit that would be best | 18:35 |
mgagne | well, I wouldn't be here if it was of that. master already has the patch =) | 18:35 |
mgagne | we are not geared for that yet | 18:36 |
alaski | otherwise you may need to find a few patches that happened in liberty, or try addressing your specific issues locally | 18:36 |
mgagne | yea, doing that atm | 18:36 |
mgagne | and then I end up with 90% of the code of liberty anyway :D | 18:36 |
alaski | heh | 18:37 |
alaski | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/cells/messaging.py?h=stable/kilo#n1052 | 18:37 |
alaski | the issue is very likely that instance there has flavor info in it, but the instance_update call isn't going to update the db for it | 18:37 |
mgagne | well, my instance is not deleted, it's resized :-/ | 18:37 |
alaski | yeah. and the resize will generate some instance_update_at_top messages, but they're only updating the instance, not the flavor | 18:38 |
mgagne | you mean the instance_extra.flavor field? | 18:39 |
alaski | mgagne: yeah. you would need a call like http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/objects/instance.py?h=stable/kilo#n707 in there | 18:47 |
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klindgren | we were running into something with flavor stuff being broken with cells as well - but I think it was flavor create - I am pretty sure it was related to the the objectification of flavors | 18:47 |
mgagne | klindgren: didn't get the chance to test flavor create. I upgraded packages and ran the migration. | 18:47 |
mgagne | klindgren: now that you talk about it, will have to test that as well | 18:48 |
klindgren | mdorman has been handling that bit | 18:48 |
klindgren | I have been vusy packaging kilo into a venv + SCL for nova-compute + neutron so that we can run kilo | 18:48 |
klindgren | on our last few cent6 boxes | 18:48 |
klindgren | while we work on upgrading them | 18:49 |
mgagne | klindgren: hehe. same here but with ubuntu packages. forward porting our patches atm | 18:49 |
* klindgren checks out patchset stuff | 18:49 | |
klindgren | oh also I think something is broken with the x509 keypair stuff in cells too | 18:50 |
klindgren | under kilo | 18:50 |
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mgagne | the patch is mixed with objectification, it makes backporting hard... | 18:51 |
mgagne | 1.35 - Make instance_update_at_top, instance_destroy_at_top and instance_info_cache_update_at_top use instance objects | 18:52 |
mgagne | one of our cell is still running Juno :-/ | 18:52 |
klindgren | mgagne, the flavor create stuff was a patch that we are using from NeCTAR - so if you didn't use that - then flavor create is just as broken as always :-) | 18:55 |
mgagne | klindgren: I don't know that patch. we are using a custom script to populate/sync flavors from a yaml file | 18:56 |
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klindgren | mgagne, https://github.com/NeCTAR-RC/nova/commit/5abc8847dc89b162b6ae678176a5cfe4989144a9 | 18:58 |
mgagne | klindgren: oh. do you have to sync your auto increment and pray it will never go out of sync? | 19:00 |
klindgren | mgagne, we had the api and child cell database on the same db servers so mike setup a sql trigger to keep that stuff insync | 19:01 |
klindgren | but with that patch - it jsut seemed to work | 19:01 |
klindgren | we also create new flavors - like bascially never | 19:01 |
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mgagne | klindgren: main challenge for us was to make it simple enough that you don't need the local shaman to create it | 19:02 |
mgagne | klindgren: and allow automated provisioning in our dev env. | 19:03 |
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mgagne | alaski: so I managed to backport the fix and it works | 22:06 |
mgagne | alaski: I had to backport and adapt ca908166dbfc311715e9e10449eb5e93add66a30 6d6fdeeff880cc5fe8edcc24ef94d3bc4ca924e2 eaaa659333c7586a71155c065dfb0f7b7e3758fc | 22:07 |
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klindgren | mgagne, was the migration stuff an issue with straight kilo+cells or kilo+juno child cell? | 22:32 |
mgagne | klindgren: I'm running kilo all across the board | 22:32 |
klindgren | I thought you had a juno cell? | 22:32 |
mgagne | klindgren: I do have serious issue with juno cells but I'm not sure it's related | 22:32 |
mgagne | klindgren: yep | 22:32 |
mgagne | klindgren: but I disabled it and didn't test resize | 22:32 |
mgagne | klindgren: so: nova resize => doesn't work with kilo+cells | 22:33 |
klindgren | mgagne, awesome | 22:33 |
mgagne | klindgren: api cell kilo + api compute juno: still working on it. | 22:33 |
klindgren | do you have a patch set for kilo to fix that? :-) | 22:33 |
mgagne | klindgren: it's badly broken, even more with backported patches | 22:33 |
mgagne | klindgren: yea, will post them now | 22:34 |
klindgren | mgagne, <3 | 22:34 |
mdorman | :) | 22:34 |
mgagne | klindgren: keep in mind that it's not in production yet so a lot of tests still need to be done | 22:34 |
klindgren | mgagne, np - I will follow to see if it gets fixed up | 22:35 |
klindgren | mgagne, we don't have resize/migration enabled at all for our cloud - so its more like - if we turn it on - I kinda would like it to "just work" | 22:35 |
klindgren | and by turn it on - I mean actually add ssh keys/ssh access everywhere | 22:36 |
mgagne | klindgren: that should be it: https://github.com/mgagne/nova/commits/kilo/nova_resize_cells | 22:36 |
mgagne | klindgren: we already have patches messing up with cells rpc so the last patch is not the one I used as-is due to me updating rpc version with subversion (1.34.3) instead of 1.35 | 22:37 |
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klindgren | thats fine - we do the same thing... which kinda makes me wonder if we are all fixing up cell stuff.... maybe we in LDT - could do something so that cell v1 works better and we dont have to keep fixing it everytime to do basic tasks.... | 22:38 |
mgagne | with kilo api cell and juno compute cell and with those patches, when running nova service-list: http://paste.openstack.org/show/381932/ | 22:38 |
klindgren | IE do work to get cells v1 fixes upstreamed | 22:39 |
mgagne | yep | 22:39 |
klindgren | and make cells "less shitty" | 22:39 |
klindgren | I will float ^^ to VW | 22:39 |
mgagne | problem is that cells v1 is considered legacy and no one will want to seriously work on it because "cells v2 is around the corner" | 22:40 |
mgagne | we are still supporting and forward porting this patch in our setup: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59101/ | 22:40 |
klindgren | except last I heard roadmap wise - cellsv1 was the only way forward for atleast 2 more cycles inc L | 22:41 |
klindgren | iirc everyone will have one and only one cell in L | 22:41 |
klindgren | so if you have mroe than one cell you still need cells v1 | 22:41 |
klindgren | or maybee its "M" | 22:41 |
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klindgren | eitherway - I also heard that nova-network was dieing and that neutron was the way of the future.... | 22:42 |
klindgren | :-) | 22:42 |
mgagne | :D | 22:42 |
* klindgren is on neutron so.... no comment as to that.... | 22:42 | |
mgagne | and people are still surprised when hearing why people are still using nova-network. | 22:42 |
mgagne | klindgren: yea, we have been running quantum since grizzly b1 =) | 22:43 |
klindgren | I am hopeful that the thing Carl Baldwin is working on with neutron | 22:43 |
mgagne | well, since grizzly was made available in ubuntu testing somewhere | 22:43 |
klindgren | will solve a number of issues for deployers | 22:43 |
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mgagne | yea, I'm really looking forward to it | 22:44 |
klindgren | Being able to define a network that is made up of multiple distinct L2 segments, where each l2 segment is limited to a set of hosts | 22:45 |
mgagne | yep | 22:45 |
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klindgren | IE they way people build datacenters :-) | 22:45 |
mgagne | no way? =) | 22:45 |
klindgren | yea - I know right - crazyness | 22:45 |
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mgagne | so if anyone has idea on how to support kilo + juno with cells, that would be great | 22:47 |
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