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| electrofelix | drwahl: hiya, Darragh Bailey here, thought I'd poke my head into the room to follow on from yesterdays email and see how others are managing local patches and syncing with upstream | 11:46 |
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| drwahl | electrofelix: welcome to the party :) | 15:23 |
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| electrofelix | drwahl: cheers | 16:04 |
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| electrofelix | was there discussion at the summit about how patches are tracked/managed locally? as opposed to whether there were patches that multiple operators were interested in? | 16:09 |
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| electrofelix | drwahl: or is there anything that was looked at by the tools working group (mentioned in the email thread I referenced)? | 16:42 |
| drwahl | electrofelix: one sec, there is an etherpad somewhere | 16:44 |
| drwahl | lemme dig it up... | 16:44 |
| drwahl | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/operator-local-patches | 16:45 |
| beddari | electrofelix: tbh I don't think what electrofelix is asking was discussed? | 16:45 |
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| beddari | ah name mixup there but, some of my team went, the discussion was according to them _what_ patches, not how | 16:46 |
| drwahl | ya, i was at that working group as well | 16:46 |
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| drwahl | we tried to get some movement on the popular local patches | 16:49 |
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| electrofelix | so, is the working group separate or related? is there interest here in sharing methods about accomplishing local patch management and upstreaming or is that orthogonal? | 16:50 |
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| drwahl | the goal is to get patches upstreamed (as much as possible) | 16:51 |
| drwahl | local patches aren't really a good thing to have | 16:51 |
| drwahl | as far as *how* we are managing local patches, i'm happy to share what dreamhost is doing, but that's a bit orthogonal | 16:51 |
| electrofelix | agreed, but we've found we still need an efficient way of handling them particularly when we are doing aggressive tracking | 16:52 |
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| electrofelix | drwahl: would definitely be interested to see how others are handling, so guess I'm wondering where the correct place for that is? | 16:54 |
| electrofelix | I mean where the correct place for sharing/conversation/discussion? | 16:55 |
| drwahl | electrofelix: i could get a blog post together. that might be a good starting point | 16:55 |
| drwahl | or we could start an email thread or something | 16:55 |
| electrofelix | email thread via operators mailing list? | 16:57 |
| drwahl | possibly | 17:00 |
| electrofelix | works for me, I've just been trying to work out 'who' to talk to for a while ;) | 17:03 |
| drwahl | i'm happy to chat with you one on one if you'd like | 17:03 |
| drwahl | might be good to get it down a little more formally, but until that gets done, i'm happy to share what we have | 17:04 |
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| electrofelix | cool, well the youtube link I mentioned in the email touches on what we have locally for HP Helion, but could probably do with a blog post to go into more detail | 17:05 |
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| jlk | ohai | 17:54 |
| jlk | So we were going to look into git-upstream for our own short-term needs | 17:54 |
| jlk | (we being Blue Box / IBM) | 17:54 |
| jlk | that plus giftwrap to build the stuff | 17:54 |
| electrofelix | btw, the youtube video I'm referring to is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kISi4NN1Az4 in case anyone else wasn't on the mailing list | 17:56 |
| electrofelix | jlk: interesting to know, there is an etherpad essentially a todo list: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/git-upstream that mentions some pain points | 17:57 |
| jlk | thanks | 17:58 |
| electrofelix | I'll follow up with a more detailed submission to the mailing list tomorrow, but would be interested to know what others have used to help in this area. | 17:59 |
| jlk | Have you seen ply? | 17:59 |
| jlk | electrofelix: https://github.com/rconradharris/ply | 17:59 |
| jlk | Rackspace uses that to manage downstream changes. It's interesting, builds a repo of patch files | 18:00 |
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| clayton | electrofelix: we're (time warner cable) using git upstream | 18:02 |
| drwahl | we've essentially created patch files for our patches and we have a jenkins jobs that checks out the upstream code and applies our patch file (then creates a deb package) | 18:04 |
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| clayton | that gets pretty annoying to maintain though, if you have many patches | 18:06 |
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| electrofelix | jlk: I imagine reviewing such patches is a ball of fun :p | 18:08 |
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| electrofelix | clayton: interesting to know, wasn't sure if it was in use elsewhere | 18:09 |
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| electrofelix | jlk: I'll definitely still have a close look at ply, initial impression strikes me as somewhat similar to guilt in concept without also containing the original project. | 18:11 |
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| drwahl | clayton: ya, we only have maybe 5-7 patches at any given time. we try hard to keep things upstream | 18:19 |
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| clayton | We don't have many either usually, but it's nice that git-upstream automatically drops them when they're merged upstream | 18:32 |
| clayton | we have nightly jobs that run git-upstream and put up a gerrit review and then internal CI automatically runs against it | 18:33 |
| clayton | We generally don't ever have to think about the local patches much | 18:33 |
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| drwahl | usually the ones we carry are either small 1-10 line changes or they are things we backported ourselves | 18:42 |
| drwahl | 'cause upstream refused our packport patch | 18:42 |
| drwahl | i.e. the rbd config-drive stuff for juno | 18:42 |
| drwahl | juno is frozen and they are considering that a 'feature' | 18:43 |
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| jproulx | drwahl: 'rbd config-drive stuff '? tell me more (url preferably) I'm on kilo & may love that... | 19:06 |
| drwahl | you won't :) | 19:06 |
| drwahl | it's causing us all kinds of issues | 19:06 |
| drwahl | and essentially the fix is to use a newer version of libvirt | 19:06 |
| jproulx | Heh, not surprised | 19:06 |
| drwahl | which wasn't an option for us at the time | 19:06 |
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| drwahl | it allows us to do live migrations on libvirt 1.2.2 | 19:07 |
| jproulx | I really like the *idea* of config drive and hate the *idea* of curling metadata, but in practice.... | 19:07 |
| drwahl | by putting the config-drive on rbd, but it requires vfat | 19:07 |
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| drwahl | but the code that is actually doing that is kind of broken | 19:07 |
| drwahl | it's leaving open loopback devices for us, eventually consuming all available loopback devices | 19:07 |
| drwahl | and they are mounted to deleted files, which the only way to clear that up is with a reboot (yay lopsetup!) | 19:08 |
| drwahl | s/lopsetup/losetup | 19:08 |
| drwahl | if you care for more details: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1512443 | 19:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1512443 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "config drive on RBD leaves orphaned loopback device mounts" [Undecided,New] | 19:08 |
| jproulx | sigh, well sounds like I'll keep limping along with the not entirely reliable neutron-metadata-agent poxy problems rather than picking up new problem, but thanks for pointing me at something to watch at least | 19:10 |
| xavpaice | well that explains why I'm having trouble with live-migration when config drives are forced to vfat | 19:10 |
| drwahl | the best way is to use iso config drives with libvirt 1.2.15+ | 19:11 |
| xavpaice | 15? I thought 17 was the minimum | 19:11 |
| xavpaice | that's great, 16 is at least available in some of the ubuntu repos | 19:11 |
| drwahl | i was pretty sure 15 was the release with iso migration support. i could be wrong though... | 19:11 |
| xavpaice | I'll check before getting too excited | 19:11 |
| xavpaice | I had dismissed the idea as a 'future' thing, so it's good to revisit | 19:12 |
| mgagne | 1.2.17 is the version AFAIK | 19:13 |
| mgagne | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234659/ | 19:13 |
| mgagne | xavpaice: ^ | 19:13 |
| mgagne | xavpaice: I have yet to test the change | 19:14 |
| mgagne | xavpaice: I know the local+volume one works fine | 19:14 |
| xavpaice | oooh thanks! | 19:14 |
| xavpaice | ah, that's the one which is on hold due to needing live migration in the gate | 19:17 |
| xavpaice | mgagne, see also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227278/ | 19:20 |
| xavpaice | is that the local+volume one you mention? | 19:20 |
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| mgagne | xavpaice: yes, I'm among the reviewers. I think the commit got reworded. Used to be "Block migrate with attached volumes copies volumes to themselves" | 19:21 |
| * xavpaice smirks unkindly :) | 19:21 | |
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| mgagne | xavpaice: "works for me" means: iSCSI volumes (with SolidFire) and iso9660 config drive with scp patch of ours | 19:22 |
| xavpaice | I'd better go find a fresh and still wet libvirt | 19:22 |
| mgagne | xavpaice: ubuntu or centos? | 19:22 |
| xavpaice | ubuntu | 19:22 |
| xavpaice | although we were discussing switching to debian for future builds | 19:23 |
| mgagne | xavpaice: someone published a PPA | 19:23 |
| mgagne | xavpaice: hmm it's not libvirt itself | 19:24 |
| mgagne | xavpaice: but libvirt 1.2.16 from ubuntu has migrate disks patches backported | 19:24 |
| xavpaice | I have varying levels of trust with PPAs - although if I make one on Catalyst's behalf I would be OK to use it | 19:24 |
| xavpaice | oh, didn't realise that - great! | 19:24 |
| mgagne | xavpaice: you still need libvirt-python >= 1.2.17 | 19:24 |
| mgagne | xavpaice: https://launchpad.net/~pboldin/+archive/ubuntu/libvirt-python | 19:24 |
| xavpaice | ace | 19:24 |
| mgagne | xavpaice: we built our own anyway (1.2.20) | 19:25 |
| xavpaice | yeah, tempting, and then I could consider what to do about the python bindings | 19:26 |
| xavpaice | but other people's testing infrastructure is usually better than I have access to | 19:26 |
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| wasmum | talk to me about murano, should I or shouldn't I (Cent 7, Kilo stack) | 21:56 |
| xavpaice | does lbaas v1 work for you? | 21:56 |
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| xavpaice | hmm, I can't seem to find a reference for that, just that it needs heat | 22:03 |
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| drwahl | wasmum: while i don't subscribe to this thought, i know some people don't like murano because it allows unverified content on their cloud | 22:13 |
| drwahl | i know some cloud operators who do not allow images to be used except the ones they have created/verified | 22:13 |
| drwahl | "because security", from what i understand | 22:13 |
| wasmum | drwhal: agree, good point | 22:13 |
| * drwahl thinks that's a bit of a dumb excuse | 22:13 | |
| wasmum | maybe creating a private repo | 22:13 |
| wasmum | have too for docker as well | 22:14 |
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| wasmum | just need some good talk on it, thanks any ideas, thought please do tell. | 22:14 |
| drwahl | from my perspective, the only way that could be a security issue (from a cloud operators perspective) is if it can break out of the hypervisor. and if that's your concern, then keep up with you CVEs | 22:14 |
| drwahl | sure, an image could contain a virus or something on it that could mess with other VMs on the same network, but that's no different than any other package or software you may download | 22:15 |
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| drwahl | security and productivity are a sliding scale. pick a point on the scale where you are comfortable | 22:15 |
| xavpaice | a large number of our clients want to bring images with them, I can't say no without losing a good chunk of our market | 22:18 |
| xavpaice | it's how they migrate their 'pets' | 22:18 |
| drwahl | ya. we are a public cloud. limitting what images users can run would be a poor decision on our part | 22:20 |
| drwahl | i appreciate the concern people have with allowing untest software on their clusters. the same way i appreciate that Richard Stallman is on our side | 22:21 |
| drwahl | but it just seems unrelealistic to me for a good cloud offering | 22:21 |
| drwahl | maybe some circumstances make sense, like a closed/secure lab that is using OpenStack for it's infrastructure. but those aren't likely the sort of people who care about murano | 22:22 |
| xavpaice | we don't want to know what our customers are running in their instances, we don't want access to them - we provide them a service and things like Murano just make it easier for them to use our service | 22:22 |
| xavpaice | I'd be keen to deploy it, just need to figure out what it needs to be able to run well | 22:23 |
| xavpaice | after all, a new service needs to have a good customer experience on day 1, and if it needs services we don't have then customers will have more complaints than compliments | 22:23 |
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