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| xavpaice | although proxied | 00:13 |
| xavpaice | if it helps any, I used https://developer.rackspace.com/blog/keystone_horizon_nginx/ extensively for a cheat sheet | 00:15 |
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| mriedem | fyi, just posted to the ops list asking if anyone uses the nova xvp (xenserver vnc proxy) console, else we're going to look at deprecating it | 16:43 |
| mriedem | it hits the db directly and we'd need to convert to using nova objects to fix that, but it's more work than it's worth if no one is using that | 16:43 |
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| klindgren | If converting to objects - can you also make sure that cells stuff still works :-D | 19:11 |
| harlowja | klindgren whatssss up | 19:12 |
| harlowja | ha | 19:12 |
| harlowja | u just get back? | 19:12 |
| klindgren | yesterday | 19:12 |
| klindgren | 7pm flight from japan | 19:13 |
| harlowja | :-/ | 19:13 |
| harlowja | damn | 19:13 |
| klindgren | which really means that wednesday for me was really like 36 hours | 19:13 |
| klindgren | like anyone else who lives in the states and flew to japan | 19:13 |
| harlowja | yup | 19:13 |
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| dmsimard | I got back to Canada on sunday and I'm still thrashed | 19:16 |
| harlowja | :( | 19:26 |
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| harlowja | to much sake | 19:27 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:27 |
| klindgren | only saving grace was for the flight out and back - I had a whole row to myself so I was able to lie down and sleep a bit | 19:27 |
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| clayton | I got some sleep on the plane on Monday, but last night I went to bed at 10pm and woke up at 1am like I had taken a long nap | 19:29 |
| xavpaice | if it's any consolation I got home on Sunday, and have been nodding off at my desk every afternoon since :) | 19:30 |
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| mdorman | :) | 19:30 |
| xavpaice | and the time zone is easy for me | 19:30 |
| mdorman | yeah we were just not designed to be able to travel to the other side of the globe and back so quickly | 19:30 |
| xavpaice | still, today I'm happy cos last night I upgraded keystone to Kilo and it was only 1 min downtime for the control plane | 19:31 |
| mdorman | nice | 19:31 |
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| wasmum | is lars around? | 19:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Fischer proposed openstack/osops-tools-generic: Keystone Role swapper tool https://review.openstack.org/242205 | 20:03 |
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| wasmum | who wants to talk about multiple external networks with a single l3agent? | 20:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Fischer proposed openstack/osops-tools-generic: Keystone Role swapper tool https://review.openstack.org/242205 | 20:24 |
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| mdorman | nova meeting in #openstack-meeting in a couple minutes, for those interested in the cells v1 attach/detach patch thing | 20:58 |
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| mgagne | mriedem, mdorman: is there something we can do to improve the situation? I personnally don't know THAT much about devstack + tempest but if we can come up with a rinse + repeat recipe to hunt down bugs in cells, I'm willing to contribute. | 21:51 |
| mriedem | mgagne: it's really kind of just digging through http://logs.openstack.org/85/235485/4/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/9fec667/ and first finding out if we're running tests that we know won't work in cells | 21:52 |
| mriedem | cells + neutron | 21:52 |
| mriedem | we skip those and recheck, and continue doing that | 21:52 |
| mgagne | mriedem: neutron == ml2+ovs ? | 21:52 |
| mriedem | it's whatever the default is in devstack | 21:52 |
| mriedem | which i think is ovs | 21:52 |
| mriedem | i don't speak neutron really though | 21:52 |
| mriedem | i'm not entirely sure why it would matter | 21:53 |
| mriedem | we're starting with the list of tests to skip here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/devstack/tempest-dsvm-cells-rc | 21:54 |
| klindgren | mgagne, I am pretty sure that at the nova -> neutron interaction ml2 + ovs and ml2 + linuxbridge doesn't actually matter | 21:55 |
| mgagne | klindgren: yea, just trying to understand what I'm getting into | 21:55 |
| mgagne | klindgren: with all those ops running cells, something MOST be working :D | 21:56 |
| mgagne | MUST* | 21:58 |
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| klindgren | agreed | 22:00 |
| klindgren | Can't just pin the hopes on cellsv2 coming along and fixing everything. When we are atleast 2+ revisions from multi-cells v2 | 22:01 |
| mriedem | dansmith pointed out that i don't have the neutron event callback stuff disabled in my config, so that's going to be one issue | 22:03 |
| mriedem | we're probably waiting for a callback that won't come | 22:03 |
| klindgren | but I appreciate mriedem & nova's willingness to get patches in for somethign that is actively worked on getting phased out | 22:04 |
| mriedem | mgagne: you could start by telling me if there is anything blatantly wrong in http://logs.openstack.org/85/235485/4/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/9fec667/logs/etc/nova/nova.conf.txt.gz | 22:04 |
| mriedem | like the event stuff | 22:04 |
| mgagne | mriedem: we disabled event on our side. I think the hardest part for me will be to test against master, we are running kilo since 1 month (up from icehouse) | 22:05 |
| mriedem | ok | 22:05 |
| mriedem | i saw icehouse was #1 production deployment in the latest user survey, i was surprised | 22:05 |
| mriedem | since we nixed stable/icehouse | 22:06 |
| mriedem | and juno is eol this month according to plan | 22:06 |
| mgagne | welcome to ops world =) | 22:06 |
| mriedem | yeah | 22:06 |
| mriedem | c'mon guys! | 22:06 |
| mgagne | I just don't have time to upgrade it every 6 months | 22:06 |
| mgagne | we are catching up with tech debts | 22:06 |
| klindgren | I was actually kinda suproised by the Japaneese keynotes | 22:07 |
| klindgren | seemed like a number of them were running really old openstack versions | 22:08 |
| mgagne | so when versions aren't supported anymore, have to backport lot of patches and are told that we can't contribute patches to ease our pain in production environment, it's mildly infuriating | 22:08 |
| klindgren | seems like thye deployed a cloud - and bascially lefti t alone | 22:08 |
| mgagne | it takes a lot of time and effort to convince everyone above that you *need* time to upgrade just so you can catch up with the end of the pack | 22:09 |
| mgagne | only time we were ahead of the curve was with grizzly beta and we were running quantum (we never ran nova-network) | 22:11 |
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| klindgren | I lucked out and did neutron + ml2 in havana | 22:17 |
| klindgren | even though the setup instructions for ml2 at that time were.... terrible to say the least | 22:17 |
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| mgagne | how about that time I lost all instance_info_caches and had to rebuilt it from scratch | 22:20 |
| dmsimard | I still remember https://twitter.com/mgagne/status/514175170509283330 :) | 22:22 |
| mgagne | true | 22:23 |
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| mriedem | mgagne: here is an updated try with the vif plugging callbacks disabled https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235485/ | 22:28 |
| mriedem | mgagne: i'm curious as to how you guys deal with those | 22:28 |
| mriedem | we had to have the neutron callbacks in the CI jobs for neutron full to be reliable | 22:28 |
| mgagne | mriedem: so the idea is to update devstack gate directly so we don't have to setup a new job until we come up with a working job/test | 22:33 |
| mriedem | yup | 22:33 |
| mriedem | mgagne: are you using libvirt? | 22:33 |
| mgagne | mriedem: yes | 22:34 |
| mgagne | mriedem: do you need a copy of nova.conf ? | 22:34 |
| mriedem | probably not right now | 22:34 |
| mriedem | we were just talking about how big deployments with cells + neutron get away w/o needing the event callbacks | 22:34 |
| mriedem | and i forgot rax was using xen which doesn't have the vif plug event callback stuff anyway | 22:35 |
| mriedem | is ml2+linuxbridge substantially faster than ovs? | 22:35 |
| mgagne | I don't have any datapoint to compare with so I can't tell | 22:35 |
| sorrison | Hey VW, how's things | 22:39 |
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| klindgren | mriedem, I think its more that if people dont need the gre part of neutron and can use vlans/vxlans then linuxbridge is a simpler install than ovs. | 22:40 |
| VW | pretty good sorrison | 22:40 |
| VW | in London at the moment | 22:41 |
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| sorrison | you need an All Black jersey! | 22:41 |
| VW | he klindgren - thanks again to you and mdorman for covering things | 22:41 |
| VW | ha - sorrison tane has covered that for me | 22:41 |
| sorrison | yeah they did a good job | 22:41 |
| VW | :) | 22:41 |
| VW | yeah - very sad I had to miss | 22:42 |
| VW | but such is life. Sometimes, running a cloud wins :) | 22:43 |
| klindgren | we jsut all let ours go down in a ball of fire | 22:43 |
| darrenc | hi everyone, the ops-guide meeting is commencing over in #openstack-ops-guide | 22:43 |
| sorrison | should run it self by now | 22:43 |
| VW | hah - that would be nice | 22:43 |
| klindgren | argh neutron - where do you generate the content of the wgi logs | 22:43 |
| VW | someone should come up with a way to do that... | 22:43 |
| klindgren | wsgi logs* | 22:44 |
| klindgren | also side note. Neutron is one ofe the few core project that doesn't log usernames next to actions in wsgi | 22:44 |
| klindgren | which is *sad panda* | 22:44 |
| klindgren | nova does, glance does - Haven't checked heat - keystone doesn't but not reaully sure that would apply all that much | 22:45 |
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| mgagne | klindgren: this warrants a cross-project bug IMO: consistent logging format | 22:53 |
| klindgren | was going to reach out to rockyg about it but she's not online | 22:53 |
| klindgren | since she's been running (or last I heard) with some of the log formatting consistenty stuff | 22:54 |
| klindgren | in the mean time trying figure out where that is - so the next time something hilariously stupid happens I can point the finger at someone and be like - you shall not pass! | 22:54 |
| klindgren | or you must be *this* tall to use neutron. | 22:55 |
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