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| mfisch | klindgren: not sure if this is related to your conductor issues but do you guys have this set? | 00:37 |
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| mfisch | 'DEFAULT/scheduler_tracks_instance_changes': value => 'False' | 00:37 |
| mfisch | that ate us alive in Kilo | 00:37 |
| mfisch | its for scheduler but I wasnt around when they set it, maybe it affects conductor too? | 00:38 |
| mfisch | probably not related | 00:38 |
| klindgren | I can check -but since we dont do migrations - we did not notice it killing us | 00:39 |
| klindgren | assuming that actual work needs to be done if a vm was migrated between hosts | 00:39 |
| mfisch | IIRC we had issues even launching with tha | 00:39 |
| mfisch | its a polling feature | 00:39 |
| mfisch | every scheduler polls every hypervisor every 2 minutes for all vms | 00:40 |
| mfisch | by default | 00:40 |
| mfisch | does not scale well | 00:40 |
| mfisch | nova-conductor is not our #1 cpu user, neutron-server is | 00:40 |
| klindgren | we can disable - but I see nova-scheduler getting vm instance stuff, and its not hammering things | 00:40 |
| klindgren | neutron-server doesn't even run on these guys | 00:40 |
| klindgren | but generally neutron server is pretty low on the list for us | 00:41 |
| mfisch | I'll follow the wiki and see what you guys find out | 00:41 |
| klindgren | disabled it on one host - seeing if it made a difference | 00:45 |
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| Piet | Are there any folks in this channel that do bare metal provisioning? We're working on a project to create a UI for a standalone Ironic client and would like to conduct some interviews to get our use cases in order. | 01:04 |
| Piet | We will also need a few folks to review wireframes of the proposed UI | 01:06 |
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| klindgren | Piet, I know the Yahoo! people are | 01:39 |
| klindgren | we aren't (yet) | 01:39 |
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| harlowja_ | klindgren who what | 01:54 |
| harlowja_ | lol | 01:54 |
| harlowja_ | UI for standalone though :-/ | 01:54 |
| harlowja_ | not exactly how we (yahoo) i think want this whole cloud thing to work out (people shouldn't really care if they get baremetal/vms....) | 01:55 |
| harlowja_ | Piet why not horizon integration and go that path? | 01:55 |
| harlowja_ | or is UI --> horizon? | 01:55 |
| balajin | yeah, i think we are looking at horizon integration | 01:56 |
| balajin | ironic client is not exposed to our users | 01:56 |
| balajin | users use nova irrespective of vm or bm | 01:56 |
| balajin | our == yahoo | 01:56 |
| balajin | Piet: ^^ | 01:57 |
| lhcheng | harlowja_: standalone UI - not horizon, I think there is another work to do it horizon too | 01:58 |
| * lhcheng shrugs | 01:58 | |
| harlowja_ | ya, meh, if someone wants it, i guess have fun | 01:58 |
| harlowja_ | to me its not the right long-term path | 01:59 |
| balajin | mfisch: curios to know why you abdandoned the keystone role swapper review | 01:59 |
| balajin | was it the too many -1 for nitpicks? | 01:59 |
| balajin | lhcheng: :) | 01:59 |
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| harlowja_ | balajin have u been nitpicking again | 02:01 |
| harlowja_ | the doctor told u not to nitpick anymore, lol | 02:01 |
| lhcheng | balajin: what's the role swapper? | 02:03 |
| lhcheng | balajin: I think the ironic UI would be dealing with node mgmt, that's probably something end-user should be responsible for? | 02:04 |
| lhcheng | *shouldn't | 02:04 |
| harlowja_ | lhcheng agreed, if users have to pick between [bm, vm] and really in all honesty care that they are different, i think we have lost the bigger cloud effort | 02:05 |
| lhcheng | ++ | 02:06 |
| harlowja_ | [bm, vm, containers] imho, its really not about the underlying stuff in the end | 02:06 |
| harlowja_ | i've been building some of the maybe this is how we could all go into https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210549/5/specs/super-scheduler.rst ... | 02:09 |
| harlowja_ | nothing in that says bm, vm, containers... | 02:09 |
| harlowja_ | (which feels like the right way to go) | 02:10 |
| harlowja_ | search for 'resource plan (displayed below as YAML)' in that | 02:10 |
| Piet | Sorry... | 02:12 |
| Piet | They're doing both | 02:12 |
| * harlowja_ just learned about http://www.btrplace.org/ (intersting) | 02:12 | |
| Piet | harlowja_ They are creating a plugin for Horizon and a standalone client | 02:12 |
| harlowja_ | Piet intersting | 02:13 |
| harlowja_ | wonder how that furthers the goal of not caring about vm, bm, containers... | 02:13 |
| harlowja_ | anyways, bbl | 02:13 |
| lhcheng | harlowja_: interesting | 02:13 |
| lhcheng | harlowja_: later | 02:14 |
| Piet | We need folks with deep experience with hardware deployment to help drive direction | 02:14 |
| Piet | lhcheng any interest in participating? | 02:15 |
| Piet | You can also be using cobbler and provide good feedback | 02:16 |
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| balajin | lhcheng: harlowja_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242205/ | 02:26 |
| lhcheng | balajin: the patch is submitted to the common ops tools repo | 02:31 |
| * lhcheng ducks keystone being picky | 02:31 | |
| lhcheng | Piet: I don't have the experience, maybe balaji.. | 02:33 |
| lhcheng | what's cobbler? | 02:33 |
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| balajin | lhcheng: i never mentioned keystone | 02:38 |
| balajin | in terms of the proect | 02:38 |
| balajin | *project | 02:38 |
| Piet | lhcheng linux installation server http://cobbler.github.io/ | 02:38 |
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| balajin | lhcheng: imight have the experience but usually not the time :( | 02:38 |
| Piet | balajin Any interest in helping the ironic team by providing your experiences w deployments? | 02:39 |
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| lhcheng | balajin: hah fair enough. its not clear why it got abandoned, perhaps a better version coming up. | 02:41 |
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| balajin | Piet: i am usually pretty busy and not much time | 02:45 |
| balajin | unless it is pointed questions, i dont have time | 02:45 |
| Piet | It's a one hour interview | 02:46 |
| Piet | But we'll take less | 02:46 |
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| balajin | Piet: let us catch up next week | 03:57 |
| balajin | we can setup some time | 03:57 |
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| mriedem | does anyone here rely on the nova-manage service commands to hit the db directly in case n-api is down? there is a patch to deprecate those commands in favor of novaclient (which relies on the api): | 15:46 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240858/ | 15:46 |
| andyhky | yes :) | 15:48 |
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| mriedem | i also posted to the ops ML | 15:50 |
| andyhky | thanks mriedem :) | 15:50 |
| mriedem | please comment in the ML or in the review | 15:50 |
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| j^2 | if you haven’t seen the tools-contrib directory is live | 17:02 |
| j^2 | I’ll be writing a readme and wiki page (probably the something) today | 17:03 |
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| jlk | For your reading enjoyment today: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244782/ | 18:51 |
| dmsimard | That's a lot of -1 | 18:51 |
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| klindgren_ | So the only issue that I have is that to get branded an openstack cloud you need to have the defcore tests pass | 19:31 |
| klindgren_ | if this guy wants to be build as the only solaris only openstack cloud - that should be his right to do so? | 19:32 |
| klindgren_ | Solaris Only Openstack Powered Platform* | 19:32 |
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| mdorman | i didn’t take the time to read that whole thing. | 19:44 |
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| klindgren_ | to be billed* | 19:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | JJ Asghar proposed openstack/osops-tools-contrib: Adding the README https://review.openstack.org/245316 | 20:06 |
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| Piet | Quick question for the group. What is the average number of listeners that are added to a single load balancer? | 20:16 |
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| klindgren_ | Hardware? or software? | 20:17 |
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| Piet | Both | 20:19 |
| klindgren_ | On our HW lb's we run hundreds of VIP's with thousands of real servers. Really total amount depends upon how close we are to the max conncurrent requests/s the LB can handle | 20:19 |
| Piet | In your opinion, does it make sense to limit operators to a single listener when creating a load balancer? In this case, the user would need to go to the Load Balancers list view to add more listeners as an in-row Action. | 20:22 |
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| mfisch | mdorman: have you looked at an erlang crash before? | 22:18 |
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| mdorman | mfisch: sorry. i have not | 22:58 |
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