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| balajin | hola | 16:46 |
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| balajin | klindgren_: j^2: mdorman: raginbajin: gonna skip the 11a PST meeting,getting ready for the vacation, see you all next week | 16:46 |
| j^2 | balajin: i think it's next week ;) | 16:47 |
| j^2 | we're on odd weeks for the time being | 16:48 |
| j^2 | and nope, i havent touched Zuul yet. :'( | 16:48 |
| mdorman | heh | 16:49 |
| balajin | ha good | 16:51 |
| balajin | next week then | 16:51 |
| balajin | cheers | 16:51 |
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| mgagne | anyone using fernet? | 16:58 |
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| mgagne | mfisch ^ | 16:59 |
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| mdorman | yeah mfisch is | 17:15 |
| mgagne | are fernet tokens using online validation? a blog tells me so | 17:15 |
| mgagne | http://dolphm.com/openstack-keystone-fernet-tokens/ | 17:16 |
| klindgren_ | afaik fernet tokens are valid just like uuid tokens | 17:17 |
| klindgren_ | the difference is you don't need to store them in your database | 17:17 |
| klindgren_ | validated** | 17:17 |
| klindgren_ | so where people are using a replicated keystone database across sites/regions the benefit is you dont need to replicate that table | 17:18 |
| mgagne | right, this makes sense | 17:18 |
| mdorman | yaeh you still have to cal to keystone to validate them. the difference is that keystone doesnt’ have to hit the database to do the validation | 17:19 |
| mdorman | iirc | 17:19 |
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| mgagne | klindgren_ do you know the purpose of rotating fernet keys? security? the keys themselves don't expire right? | 20:46 |
| klindgren_ | mgagne, I do not | 20:48 |
| mgagne | "Ultimately, this should be less time than it takes an attacker to break a AES256 key and a SHA256 HMAC." | 20:49 |
| mgagne | http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/keystone_fernet_token_faq.html | 20:49 |
| klindgren_ | I assume its jsut like any long lived ssl transaction in which the key can get rotated during the transaction and they have a protocol to support that | 20:49 |
| klindgren_ | guessing its the - if we keep changing the key every x days - even the most powerful super computer wont bruteforce it | 20:50 |
| mgagne | right | 20:51 |
| mgagne | I found the FAQ to provide useful information =) | 20:51 |
| mdorman | yeah it’s just security mgagne | 20:59 |
| mgagne | mdorman thanks! | 20:59 |
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| klindgren_ | Does anyone here actually use heat templates? | 22:13 |
| klindgren_ | the documentation on HOT templates functions is extremely painful | 22:14 |
| klindgren_ | either that or I am a total idiot | 22:14 |
| xavpaice | there's a few of ours on https://github.com/catalyst/catalystcloud-orchestration | 22:15 |
| xavpaice | also see http://docs.catalystcloud.io/cloud-orchestration.html | 22:15 |
| klindgren_ | bascially have an autoscale group for a set of resources related to a server. I want to boot a vm in an auto scale group into 1 of 3 AZ's and have it either randomly choose an az or iterate over the map | 22:17 |
| xavpaice | pls share what you come up with when you do :) | 22:18 |
| klindgren_ | its totally painful | 22:19 |
| klindgren_ | like suicide might be a better option painful | 22:19 |
| klindgren_ | like All I want is vm1 -> az1, vm2 -> az2, vm3 -> az3, vm4 -> az1 | 22:21 |
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| xavpaice | have the heat devs been helpful? They've been quite friendly so far. | 22:23 |
| klindgren_ | I dunno - asked in #heat but unsure I am going to get a response | 22:24 |
| klindgren_ | guessing I am going to have to go with some randomstring generation thingy | 22:24 |
| klindgren_ | and string replace | 22:24 |
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| serverascode | anyone using multi-region swift and glance? I'm not clear on the swift_store_region, and if that's just for uploading images not downloading | 23:33 |
| klindgren_ | xavpaice, looks like I am going to implement the small simple patch that Y! did to allow you to pass mutliple, comma sperated, az's to --availability-zone | 23:36 |
| klindgren_ | in nova | 23:36 |
| klindgren_ | So you can say az1 or az2 and kinda end up in either | 23:36 |
| klindgren_ | the other 2 thoughts I have are to do a for loop to implment the number of az's that you want | 23:36 |
| klindgren_ | and make an autoscale group per az | 23:37 |
| klindgren_ | finial idea was to use random string to generate a random ending number to and use that per vm | 23:39 |
| klindgren_ | for the az | 23:39 |
| xavpaice | sounds reasonable - but also sounds like something nova folk would want upstream | 23:48 |
| klindgren_ | yea - that reminds me - I have totally dropped the ball on this local patches stuff | 23:49 |
| klindgren_ | to much crap going on recently | 23:49 |
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