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| openstackgerrit | Peter Jenkins proposed openstack/osops-tools-generic: Update aut-fix-quota tool for Juno https://review.openstack.org/266873 | 12:16 |
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| berendt | looks like wiki.openstack.org is not reachable | 13:39 |
| berendt | hmm. looks like it was a temporary issue on our site. sorry for the noise. | 13:41 |
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| j^2 | everyone has voted right? | 16:18 |
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| dmsimard | Was there an arugment you could pass to nova live-migration to force a destination node ? I forget. I'm thinking something like --availability-zone=nova:nodeXX but that might've been just for nova boot. | 16:21 |
| dmsimard | Yeah nevermind, it's built-in in the live-migration command | 16:22 |
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| mdorman | j^2: i voted :) | 16:46 |
| j^2 | yay! | 16:46 |
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| ctrath | does anybody here know if there's a known limit on the number of cells in a single cloud? | 17:25 |
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| ntpttr | Hey all, does anyone here know what might be causing no tests to run against this patch? It was rebased a couple of days ago https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254392/ | 17:26 |
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| klindgren | ctrath, I am sure their is a practical limit | 17:32 |
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| ctrath | klindgren: right.. I'm was wondering if anybody has hit an actual limit while running a cloud | 17:33 |
| klindgren | however I dont think anyone has hit that - Rackspace is running the most cells afaik | 17:34 |
| ctrath | ok, good enough. | 17:34 |
| klindgren | guessing they are in a couple hundred cells range | 17:34 |
| ctrath | klindgren: do you happen to know the number of cells the rax runs? | 17:34 |
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| ctrath | klindgren: thanks! | 17:35 |
| klindgren | last I heard they do about 300 servers per cell | 17:35 |
| klindgren | they say they have 10,000's hvs in their cloud - unsure how thats broken up in regions | 17:35 |
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| mgagne | pkoniszewski I'm working on making live migration work again on our side and we found QEMU 2.0 to be broken in some way. Can you help? the destination target is getting fully provisioned instead of thin provisioned. | 18:12 |
| mgagne | wrong channel | 18:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Athlan-Guyot sofer proposed openstack/osops-tools-monitoring: Parse clifftab output for keystone check. https://review.openstack.org/267098 | 18:52 |
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| mgagne | for those that care about my live migration issue with sparseness being ignored, jwnow on #qemu (oftc network) found this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817700 | 19:01 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 817700 in qemu "virsh migrate --copy-storage-all fails to preserve sparse disk image" [Medium,New] - Assigned to virt-maint | 19:01 |
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| dmsimard | oh god, the bug is assigned to John Snow :/ | 19:09 |
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| dmsimard | mgagne: poked some guys here about it, there are things downstream that can happen in qemu-kvm-rhev but it doesn't look like that issue is reported upstream (looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/ ?) | 19:19 |
| dmsimard | fwiw it doesn't look like there's a fix for it on our end | 19:20 |
| dmsimard | a good first step would be to report it there I think | 19:20 |
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| mgagne | already reported in https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1449687 | 19:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1449687 in QEMU "block migration of qcow2 VMs copies all empty space" [Undecided,New] | 19:35 |
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| dmsimard | mgagne: ah, good find - I added the reference in the two bugzillas | 19:37 |
| mgagne | people on #qemu are suggesting a local migration which doesn't involve disk copy so you respawn a new qemu 2.2 process | 19:38 |
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| mriedem | does anyone here care about volume multiattach between cinder and nova? | 20:17 |
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| dmsimard | mriedem: attaching a single volume on multiple virtual machines ? | 20:41 |
| mriedem | yeah | 20:42 |
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| rockyg | I can think of lots of uses, but I don't own any clouds... | 20:49 |
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| dmsimard | mriedem: that can be useful indeed, yes, if the filesystem supports being mounted in multiple places | 20:50 |
| dmsimard | ext4 or xfs will do plenty of weird things if it's mounted by different servers | 20:51 |
| dmsimard | so there are perhaps considerations about how that can be implemented | 20:51 |
| mriedem | ok, been discussing it in the -nova channel most of the afternoon, will probably have a -dev ML thread on the issues here at some point | 20:53 |
| mriedem | the main issue we were talking about is how a client discovers whether or not the cloud supports multi-attach | 20:53 |
| mriedem | cinder has supported it since juno | 20:53 |
| mriedem | but the series is not proposing a new microversoin to the compute api | 20:54 |
| mriedem | so as a user writing client side code, i'm not sure if the 400 i'm getting for trying to attach the same volume to multiple instances is because the cloud is on liberty (no nova multiattach support), or if it's because something actually failed | 20:54 |
| mriedem | that's what the microversion is for | 20:54 |
| mriedem | it gets a bit more complicated by the fact that multiattach is not supported by all cinder backends and nova virt drivers | 20:55 |
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| klindgren | we have intrests for single cinder volume -> multiple vm's and supporting that | 20:57 |
| klindgren | but also have reservations of someone doing that and corrupting volumes like a mofo - or something going wrong and corrupting volumes | 20:58 |
| klindgren | (would really love a safety flag on that --do-what-i-say on that :-D | 20:58 |
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| mgagne | thread about qemu live upgrade: https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2013-October/msg00974.html | 21:26 |
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| mgagne | feature not merged in qemu =( https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2013-06/msg02540.html | 21:30 |
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| klindgren | so localhost migration is to migrate from a qemu 2.0 process to qemu 2.2 process? | 22:10 |
| klindgren | since qemu 2.2 doesn't balloon the image | 22:10 |
| klindgren | ? | 22:10 |
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| mriedem | for operators that have opinions on how nova should advertise multiattach support for volumes | 23:00 |
| mriedem | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/084031.html | 23:00 |
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| mgagne | klindgren yea but it's not working | 23:40 |
| mgagne | klindgren checking alternative solution proposed in bug report | 23:40 |
| mgagne | klindgren under the hood suspend live migration with virsh to updated host and migrate back to source host and resume (after upgrading qemu) | 23:41 |
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| * klindgren happy he's not doing live migration yet | 23:43 | |
| klindgren | would rather jsut upgrade qemu on host | 23:43 |
| klindgren | and reboot :-D | 23:43 |
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| mgagne | klindgren yea, I wish I could =) | 23:50 |
| mgagne | klindgren just tested it and it's working great | 23:50 |
| klindgren | cool | 23:50 |
| mgagne | disk isn't bloated after a block migration =) | 23:50 |
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