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| VW | evening, folks | 03:00 |
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| mdorman | o/ | 03:02 |
| VW | #startmeeting Large Deployments Team January 2016 Meeting | 03:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jan 22 03:02:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'large_deployments_team_january_2016_meeting' | 03:02 |
| VW | is it just you and I, mdorman? | 03:02 |
| mdorman | possibly. i told klindgren about it but not sure if he got the info | 03:03 |
| mdorman | not sure about AU folks | 03:03 |
| klindgren | oh snaps I be here | 03:04 |
| VW | yeah, was hoping Sam was about | 03:04 |
| VW | hee hee | 03:04 |
| mdorman | yeah might just be us three then | 03:04 |
| VW | #topic Neutron Work | 03:04 |
| klindgren | I haven't seen sorinson on irc in a while | 03:04 |
| VW | hmmm | 03:05 |
| VW | will have to ask Tom how he'd doing | 03:05 |
| VW | s/he'd/he's | 03:05 |
| VW | anyway - how are things going with the Neutron stuff | 03:06 |
| mdorman | we are getting close on the usages API extention, i think: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212955/ dbingham has been working on that a lot. | 03:06 |
| mdorman | but the spec got approved and everything, so i still expect we’ll get it into mitaka | 03:07 |
| klindgren | iirc someone from rackspace was working on it as well | 03:07 |
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| VW | It's very possible | 03:07 |
| * VW can't keep up with all the things now | 03:07 | |
| mdorman | yeah he’s been coordinating with a couple people over there | 03:07 |
| mdorman | Brian Stajkowski | 03:08 |
| VW | ah - yes - Brian | 03:08 |
| VW | he manages our Neutron team | 03:08 |
| VW | I'll make a note to catch up with him tomorrow on it | 03:09 |
| klindgren | Carl has been working on the SPEC for the routed/segmented networks. There has been a ton of back and forth on that thing. But he messaged me the other day saying that he thinks that its at a pretty solid position now | 03:10 |
| VW | That's good | 03:10 |
| VW | I was chatting with some technical leaders from our private cloud side | 03:10 |
| mdorman | i reread the current version of that last week and i feel like it’s in a better spot now too. i think our needs/asks are accurately captured | 03:10 |
| VW | that's a big piece to get Neturon and cells working in a way that is much more upstream :) | 03:11 |
| mdorman | though it will still be a long time before anything really useful sees the light of day, i think. | 03:11 |
| mdorman | cool | 03:11 |
| VW | Cool any other Neutron/Network stuff to touch on? | 03:12 |
| mdorman | not that i know of | 03:13 |
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| VW | #topic mid-cycle | 03:13 |
| VW | so, niether of you are making it to the mid-cycle, correct? | 03:13 |
| mdorman | right. | 03:13 |
| VW | yeah, it's still not completely decided for me, but there are some things brewing | 03:14 |
| klindgren | they have an LDT slot in the meetup | 03:14 |
| klindgren | just not sure whos going to be running it | 03:15 |
| klindgren | ? | 03:15 |
| mdorman | sounds like belmiro is fairly involved in the planning | 03:15 |
| VW | I'll have an engineer there. Belmiro will be there | 03:15 |
| VW | yeah | 03:15 |
| VW | hee ehe | 03:16 |
| VW | I think I'll end up going | 03:16 |
| mdorman | cool | 03:16 |
| klindgren | I thought it was sold out already | 03:16 |
| VW | hmm | 03:16 |
| VW | that poses a challenge | 03:17 |
| VW | will follow up | 03:17 |
| klindgren | I assume emails to Tom might smooth things out a bit :-) | 03:17 |
| VW | let's hope | 03:17 |
| VW | I've got Rackspace and Intel folks pushing for a fleet managment project and some of the inventory code public by Austin | 03:17 |
| mdorman | good deal | 03:18 |
| VW | unfortunately with two sets of leaders, it takes a little longer to make a decsion | 03:18 |
| VW | otherwise, I'd be booked already | 03:18 |
| VW | :) | 03:18 |
| VW | But everyone wants to do some talking about it at the mid-cycle | 03:18 |
| VW | hopefully get more traction than the CMDB stuff back in August | 03:18 |
| mdorman | i would imagine it would since this is more than just vapor | 03:19 |
| VW | :) | 03:19 |
| VW | yeah, my hope is that pieces of inventory (and maybe provisioning) out by Austin with some folks (like your selves) jumping in to work | 03:20 |
| VW | and then shoot for Resolver/automation services out by Barcelona | 03:20 |
| VW | There is a big bug smash we are doing with Intel in early march, so I'm working on making some of that inlcude prepping code for public use | 03:21 |
| VW | we'll see | 03:21 |
| mdorman | yeah, something to shoot for at least | 03:21 |
| VW | any burning topics you guys want to make sure are covered at the mid-cycle? | 03:22 |
| klindgren | Side question - are their details of how the intel-rackspace lab is setup? Cells? number of computes per cells? ect ect | 03:22 |
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| VW | There probably are - I'll have to get them. I know they were shooting for 1000 node clusters | 03:22 |
| VW | I don't believe they have cells | 03:22 |
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| mdorman | yeah i would not really make sense to deploy that with cells v1 at this point. | 03:23 |
| VW | I'm hoping in the next couple of weeks, we'll start trying to stand up the fleet management stack with them | 03:23 |
| klindgren | cool | 03:23 |
| VW | to date, they have mainly been run by the Private Cloud folks, so sadly, I don't have a lot of direct knowledge on them | 03:23 |
| VW | yet... | 03:23 |
| VW | :) | 03:23 |
| klindgren | So the only other thing that I can think about was how the cells patches stuff is going... | 03:24 |
| VW | I'm behind on that | 03:24 |
| klindgren | it seemed like it was on track - then got shot down due to lack of gate testing for cells v1? | 03:24 |
| VW | is there stuff in motion since the summit | 03:24 |
| VW | sight | 03:24 |
| VW | sigh even | 03:24 |
| klindgren | then matt R added some gate testing jobs for cells | 03:24 |
| klindgren | but it seemed like that got voted down by other nova members | 03:25 |
| mdorman | not much. the few that we reviewed with mriedem more or less got rejected by nova | 03:25 |
| mdorman | yeah, what kris said | 03:25 |
| VW | blargh | 03:25 |
| klindgren | cuz you know -multi cell v2 is "right around the corner" | 03:25 |
| mdorman | i think that even if we were to do the effort to add the tests, it still wouldn’t have much support b/c there is no interest in doing anything on cells v1. | 03:26 |
| VW | ok - at one point, I had asked Garbutt to try and get to the Ops meetup. Not sure if he did, but if I get over there, I'll follow up with him | 03:26 |
| mdorman | and there is potential for other changes not related to v1 could cause those tests to fail, and they don’t want to have to support making those pass. | 03:26 |
| VW | yeah, but cells v2 is dragging | 03:26 |
| mdorman | right. | 03:26 |
| mdorman | yeah, i mean i understand both sides. i kind of think a separate repo where we could maintain the patches separately might be a more effective route and a better use of time. | 03:27 |
| VW | good old fashtioned crap sandwich | 03:27 |
| mdorman | haha | 03:27 |
| mdorman | i had kind of worked on pushing on some of that stuff during the weeks right after the summit, but since december haven’t really had bandwidth to do much with it. | 03:27 |
| VW | yeah | 03:28 |
| VW | may reach out to you for an offline summary mdorman - if I'm able to sit down and visit with John | 03:29 |
| mdorman | so, i donno. i wouldn’t be opposed to championing/working on a separte repo thing. but would wnat to get some more input from other cells deployers to see if that would actually be valuable. | 03:29 |
| mdorman | sure, that’s cool | 03:29 |
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| VW | #topic Other Business | 03:31 |
| VW | anything else pressing? | 03:31 |
| mdorman | i was goign to ask you if you had any more info in this fleet management sprint idea | 03:32 |
| klindgren | Nothing from me - I htink like everyone else since the summit - I have been pretty much slammed | 03:32 |
| mdorman | totally acceptable if it’s all still TBD | 03:32 |
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| VW | well, I jsut found out about the bug squash stuff in early march mdorman | 03:34 |
| VW | so even if we don't actually pull folks together in one spot | 03:34 |
| VW | then I think we have an oporrtunity to rally folks virtually | 03:34 |
| VW | but let me dig | 03:34 |
| VW | folks are on board for some focused pre-Austin work though | 03:34 |
| VW | just trying to get two leadership teams to agree on things as a priority, etc | 03:35 |
| VW | :D | 03:35 |
| mdorman | alright, yeah that’s cool. just wondering if we should still think about pulling together travel, but sounds like at this point likely not | 03:35 |
| mdorman | we just got a new manager, so need to get stuff like this on a new radar | 03:36 |
| VW | Give me two weeks and I'll know for sure | 03:36 |
| VW | sorry - it's hurry up and wait | 03:36 |
| VW | :\ | 03:36 |
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| mdorman | yeah that’s np at all | 03:36 |
| mdorman | nothing else for me | 03:37 |
| VW | me either | 03:37 |
| VW | thank you guys for hopping on | 03:37 |
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| VW | I'll try to reach out to Tom and Belmiro in the next couple of days | 03:37 |
| mdorman | cool. just reach out if there’s anything else we an do in the meantime | 03:38 |
| VW | will doo | 03:38 |
| VW | do even | 03:38 |
| VW | see you guys in Austin if not before | 03:38 |
| * gfa late, reading the logs | 03:38 | |
| * VW pauses | 03:39 | |
| VW | we still have time gfa - if you have anything | 03:39 |
| gfa | no, i'm fine | 03:39 |
| gfa | tnx | 03:39 |
| VW | no problem | 03:40 |
| VW | all is welll with you? | 03:40 |
| gfa | kinda, i'm not doing openstack for the moment :-/ | 03:40 |
| VW | well that's no fun | 03:41 |
| gfa | but wanted to follow close what others are doing | 03:41 |
| gfa | and neutron | 03:41 |
| VW | but we all understand day jobs gettin gin the way | 03:41 |
| VW | alright, well unless anyone objects, I'll call the meeting good then | 03:42 |
| gfa | np | 03:43 |
| VW | alrighty then | 03:43 |
| VW | #endmeeting | 03:43 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jan 22 03:43:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_january_2016_meeting/2016/large_deployments_team_january_2016_meeting.2016-01-22-03.02.html | 03:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_january_2016_meeting/2016/large_deployments_team_january_2016_meeting.2016-01-22-03.02.txt | 03:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_january_2016_meeting/2016/large_deployments_team_january_2016_meeting.2016-01-22-03.02.log.html | 03:43 |
| mdorman | have a good one all | 03:44 |
| VW | You all take care. See you in Manchester, or next month here or in Austin | 03:44 |
| gfa | bye | 03:44 |
| klindgren | see ya | 03:44 |
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| mriedem | did anyone from keystone inform the ops people about this change in keystone middleware 4.1 to no longer do automatic caching? | 14:44 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212345/ | 14:44 |
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| mriedem | fyi http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/084579.html | 14:56 |
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