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| VW | hey folks. If any LDT people are around, we'll kick things off here in a couple of minutes | 15:58 |
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| VW | belmorei_: are you around today? You'll be important since you can relay discussion from the session in Manchester | 16:00 |
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| VW | #startmeeting Large Deployments Team February 2016 Meeting | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 18 16:01:35 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'large_deployments_team_february_2016_meeting' | 16:01 |
| VW | hello, folks | 16:02 |
| mdorman | o/ | 16:02 |
| belmorei_ | hi | 16:02 |
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| VW | yay! belmoreira is back | 16:04 |
| VW | #topic Manchester recap | 16:04 |
| belmoreira | I think is on me :) | 16:04 |
| VW | for those of us who couldn't make it, here are the notes from the LDT session there - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MAN-ops-Large-Deployment-Team | 16:04 |
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| belmoreira | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MAN-ops-Large-Deployment-Team | 16:05 |
| VW | yes, and special thanks to belmoreira for running that session | 16:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/osops-tools-monitoring: Client compatibility fix https://review.openstack.org/281167 | 16:05 |
| belmoreira | We were around 10 in the room | 16:05 |
| belmoreira | and operators that attend the session didn't particularly have a large installation | 16:06 |
| VW | hmm | 16:06 |
| mdorman | well if you “feel” large... | 16:07 |
| VW | seemed like a lot of interested in cells though | 16:07 |
| belmoreira | but they expect to grow | 16:07 |
| VW | how we set them up, decisions made, etc | 16:07 |
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| belmoreira | most of the ops there were interested to know when make sense to run cells | 16:08 |
| belmoreira | mdorman yes, one of the problems is to define large | 16:08 |
| VW | yeah - I suppose we could try to come up with a deffinition | 16:09 |
| VW | but seems like we'd inadvertently leave someone out | 16:09 |
| belmoreira | the session moved more to describe CERN/Rackspace experience with cells | 16:10 |
| VW | or imply they didn't fit | 16:10 |
| belmoreira | VW I dont think we gave that impression | 16:10 |
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| VW | no, I don't think we did | 16:10 |
| VW | was saying if we tried to define "large" we might | 16:11 |
| mdorman | i feel like the right recommendation now is to wait for v2. and then it’s kind of a moot question of cells vs. not cells… just a question of when’s the right time to scale out to more. | 16:11 |
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| VW | yeah, but that is dragging on :\ | 16:11 |
| belmoreira | people was simple curious how to run cells and learn/hear others for when they need to scale there infrastructure | 16:11 |
| mdorman | VW: true. | 16:12 |
| VW | John G. (johnthetubaguy) gave and update on V2 in one of the general sessions, didn't he belmoreira | 16:13 |
| belmoreira | yes | 16:13 |
| belmoreira | unfortunately I couldn't join this session | 16:13 |
| VW | ah - bummer | 16:14 |
| belmoreira | the cells v2 update session basically trigger a lot of curiosity in cells and all those questions | 16:14 |
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| mdorman | makes sense | 16:15 |
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| VW | Yeah - I'm getting more and more interested in how we help land V2 | 16:16 |
| belmoreira | I think it was interesting | 16:16 |
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| VW | got woken up last night specifically because of a delay in meta data between the cell and the top level | 16:16 |
| VW | ready for cells issues to be "mainstream" :) | 16:16 |
| belmoreira | great to have Robert from Rackspace in the room to give his experience | 16:16 |
| logan- | i have the same curiosity as an operator with a small deployment, lookign at growth.. things like when the cutoff is where cells make sense, whether the transition is worthwhile or if you think you might need them deploy with it right away? (probably not with the v1/v2 stuff?). I don't want to interrupt the LDT meeting with small deployment stuff but I am glad to see that touched on in the etherpad :) | 16:17 |
| VW | I have to step a way for five minutes | 16:17 |
| VW | keep talking... | 16:17 |
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| yankcrime | johnthetubaguy's short statement on cells v2 was basically yes it'll be in mitaka as the default, but it'll only support a single cell | 16:18 |
| belmoreira | Ops will need to deal with a new DB | 16:19 |
| belmoreira | it's already there in Liberty but was not used | 16:19 |
| yankcrime | http://www.slideshare.net/johnthetubaguy/nova-update-openstack-ops-midcycle-manchester-feb-2016 | 16:20 |
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| yankcrime | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/084545.html (reference from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MAN-ops-Nova) | 16:21 |
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| mdorman | any other big news from the meetup? | 16:25 |
| VW | back - sorry | 16:25 |
| belmoreira | there was a status update in Live Migration | 16:26 |
| belmoreira | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MAN-ops-Live-migration | 16:26 |
| VW | great to hear, thanks for sharing, yankcrime | 16:26 |
| belmoreira | and i this was interesting: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MAN-ops-Top-10 | 16:26 |
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| VW | I need to get up to speed on Live Migration. From my perspective, it's a thing. We use it all the time | 16:27 |
| VW | but doesn't seem to be so for a lot of folks | 16:27 |
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| belmoreira | most of the work in live migration is done | 16:28 |
| VW | looks like Rob - one of our engineers was in the conversation. See a bunch of notes about our tooling in that etherpad | 16:29 |
| belmoreira | I need to leave in 5 min. | 16:29 |
| VW | ah, I see belmoreira | 16:29 |
| VW | any other non-mid cycle stuff you want to cover? | 16:29 |
| belmoreira | mdorman do you know more about the network segmentation spec | 16:30 |
| VW | #topic Network Segmentation | 16:30 |
| belmoreira | it's still in review :) | 16:31 |
| VW | ah review... :) | 16:32 |
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| mdorman | i don’t have much new info, other than that carl is trying to push it forward. | 16:32 |
| VW | I know that Brian S from here was helping. I have not gotten to sit down with him on it yet, though | 16:32 |
| mdorman | i think the neutron midcycle is in the next week or two. then klindgren and i were going to meet up with carl to see where things are at (all three of us are local here in denver) | 16:32 |
| VW | nice! | 16:32 |
| VW | I'll try to catch Brian before the midcycle then | 16:33 |
| mdorman | i re-read the spec a few weeks ago and it’s quite a bit different than the original, but there was nothing that stood out to me that was a major red flag | 16:33 |
| mdorman | it’s pretty watered down. even once this spec is approved and implemented, we’re still quite a ways off from getting everything that was in the ask. but it’s a step forward for sure. | 16:33 |
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| belmoreira | mdorman yes | 16:34 |
| belmoreira | I need to leave... | 16:34 |
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| VW | yeah, mdorman - I'm trying to haraass some folks here about pushing more of quark into ml2 | 16:36 |
| VW | uphill battle at the moment | 16:36 |
| VW | but trying to bridge the gaps between or public and private clouds | 16:36 |
| VW | this and cells v2 are a big part of that | 16:36 |
| mdorman | yeah, it’s all related | 16:37 |
| VW | any other stuff you wanted to dive deep into, mdorman? | 16:38 |
| mdorman | i think that covers any of our concerns at the moment. klindgren couldn’t join this morning b/c his internet is getting fixed right now, wah wah | 16:39 |
| VW | gotcha | 16:40 |
| VW | that's about it for me too | 16:41 |
| VW | was mainly interested in getting caught up on mid-cycle | 16:41 |
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| mdorman | yup same here | 16:41 |
| VW | cool - then we will wrap up early unless anyone has objections | 16:41 |
| mdorman | i’m good. | 16:42 |
| VW | cool | 16:42 |
| VW | well, thanks for attending! | 16:42 |
| VW | #endmeeting | 16:43 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 18 16:43:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_february_2016_meeting/2016/large_deployments_team_february_2016_meeting.2016-02-18-16.01.html | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_february_2016_meeting/2016/large_deployments_team_february_2016_meeting.2016-02-18-16.01.txt | 16:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_february_2016_meeting/2016/large_deployments_team_february_2016_meeting.2016-02-18-16.01.log.html | 16:44 |
| mdorman | thanks VW | 16:49 |
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