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| mriedem | getting some operator opinions on this nova spec for debugging scheduler failures would be appreciated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306647/ | 16:28 |
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| mriedem | since there have been some questions in the -nova channel about how to handle this for what operators want, or how they would use it | 16:28 |
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| dmsimard | mriedem: any errors more specific than "no valid hosts" is helpful </troll> :) | 16:48 |
| cfriesen | dmsimard: one open question...would anyone ever want to see *all* the sched filter logs, including on success? or can we just unconditionally suppress the debug logs for the success path? | 16:51 |
| dmsimard | cfriesen: Well sometimes the no valid hosts was found is an error completely unrelated to Nova -- It seems like it's sort of a catch all/fallback error.. You dig around and find a hint to the real error in nova-api/nova-compute and from that point you can guess what the real problem is, sometimes neutron, sometimes something else.. | 16:55 |
| cfriesen | dmsimard: yes, but if you don't get "no valid hosts" and the sched operation passes, would you ever want all of the sched filter debug logs? | 16:56 |
| cfriesen | because if so then we need to add a config option for that. the proposed default would be to only log if we can't find a host | 16:57 |
| dmsimard | I would not want things logging in a log level that isn't set -- if I'm debug=false/verbose=false, I'm not expecting a debug or verbose output. If you mean additional logging in INFO that scheduling was successful (or not with details), as long as it's relevant, sure. | 16:58 |
| mgagne | cfriesen: are you concerned with the amount of log entries this would generate? | 16:59 |
| mgagne | cfriesen: because I think we should ask: Why not log scheduling irregardless of success or failure? | 17:00 |
| mgagne | great, meeting now... bbl | 17:01 |
| jlk | cfriesen: thanks, I've commented in the review. | 17:01 |
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| cfriesen | dmsimard: mgagne: some operators have turned off the sched filter logs due to the large volume of logs it generates at scale. the proposal is to accumulate the logs in memory and only emit them (at info level) if the scheduler cannot find a suitable host. Furthermore, I propose to allow specifying a list of filters for which we don't want to emit logs (simple ones like cpu/ram/disk for example) to improve scaling even | 17:16 |
| cfriesen | more. | 17:16 |
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| cfriesen | jlk: thanks, that's exactly the sort of feedback I was looking for. would you be happy if enabling debug logs made all the logs come out, but in other log levels they only came out on failure? | 17:22 |
| jlk | cfriesen: I'd be okay with that. | 17:22 |
| jlk | I wouldn't want to needlessly complicate the configuration toggles. | 17:22 |
| cfriesen | jlk: I just remembered that some operators have explicitly blocked the sched filter debug logs because they were too noisy when in debug mode, so I'd like to accomodate them too if possible. will think about it | 17:22 |
| jlk | cfriesen: wouldn't a filter still work? | 17:23 |
| jlk | Operators who are not interested in it can continue to block | 17:23 |
| cfriesen | jlk: yeah, maybe we could make the suppression list apply to the debug logs when in debug mode. | 17:23 |
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