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| jlk | mrhillsman: thanks. Looks like it's internal to libvirt. We ran into the bug where some have hte same UUID, and live migration stopped working, and I'm assessing the damage of replacing all the UUIDs in production with new ones. | 01:47 |
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| mrhillsman | jlk you're welcome | 02:37 |
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| sorrison | anyone here know about nova policy.json. There seem to be duplicates in the default policy.json | 03:41 |
| sorrison | eg. os_compute_api:servers:update or compute:update which one do you use? | 03:42 |
| logan- | i was working on some custom policies wondering exactly the same thing yesterday sorrison. haven't had time to research it yet. if you find the answer id be interested to hear it | 03:49 |
| sorrison | looking in the code I see authorize(context, action='update') which doesn't give much away | 03:51 |
| sorrison | looking in master its still the same so looks like they haven't addressed it | 03:53 |
| sorrison | will go ask in the nova channel | 03:53 |
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| logan- | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150267/ "This patch rename the v2.1 api policy with 'os_compute_api' prefix, | 04:01 |
| logan- | that used to distinguish with v2 and ec2 API." | 04:01 |
| logan- | so same functions, different endpoints it sounds like | 04:02 |
| logan- | then all of the os_compute_api stuff was rolled back into the normal policy.json in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169464/ | 04:11 |
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| mrhillsman | /window right | 12:35 |
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| cloudnull | O/ | 13:02 |
| cloudnull | is the meeting in this room ? | 13:03 |
| cloudnull | I'm not seeing a meeting entry here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ | 13:06 |
| mrhillsman | morning | 13:06 |
| mrhillsman | i think the meeting room changed... | 13:07 |
| mcunietti | where is it now? | 13:07 |
| mrhillsman | i thought it was openstack-meeting-3 but could be wrong | 13:08 |
| cloudnull | Its also not listed on the meeting page, or I'm searching wrong. | 13:09 |
| mrhillsman | hrm, yeah, it is gone :( | 13:11 |
| mrhillsman | my calendar says tomorrow 1-2pm CDT | 13:12 |
| mrhillsman | openstack-meeting-4 | 13:12 |
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| mrhillsman | all the operator meetings i have are on wednesdays | 13:13 |
| mrhillsman | monitoring/ops, operators | 13:13 |
| mrhillsman | oh, and operators tag group, that is thurs | 13:13 |
| serverascode | morning | 13:13 |
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| cloudnull | I had thought I saw an ml post staying it was Tuesday starting may 17 | 13:16 |
| * cloudnull could be wrong it's early yet. | 13:16 | |
| mcunietti | I got an email yesterday from Matt Jarvis and Tom Fifield talking about today at 14.00 UTC | 13:17 |
| mcunietti | "IRC freenode, in the #openstack-operators channel." | 13:17 |
| cloudnull | Tuesday, 17 of May at 1400 UTC [1] | 13:18 |
| cloudnull | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ops_Meetups_Team#Meeting_Information | 13:18 |
| cloudnull | That's the one. Seems I'm early | 13:18 |
| mrhillsman | ah ok | 13:21 |
| mrhillsman | i need to change my calendar for sure then | 13:22 |
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| mrhillsman | hey there fifieldt | 13:51 |
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| fifieldt | ohai mrhillsman | 13:51 |
| fifieldt | how are you? | 13:51 |
| mrhillsman | good sir and u? | 13:51 |
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| fifieldt | All is well here | 13:52 |
| fifieldt | hat tip to the venerable jproulx1 | 13:52 |
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| fifieldt | ook, we're about 5 minutes out or so from the first Ops Meetups Team meeting :) | 13:55 |
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| fifieldt | we have mrhillsman, jproulx, shintaro ... anyone else? | 13:55 |
| mihalis68 | hello | 13:56 |
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| fifieldt | hi mihalis68 ! | 13:56 |
| shintaro | hi | 13:56 |
| mihalis68 | good morning from NYC | 13:56 |
| hieulq_ | hi | 13:56 |
| mrhillsman | cloudnull you still around | 13:56 |
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| fifieldt | was also expecting a vw | 13:56 |
| fifieldt | maybe even a jarvis | 13:56 |
| fifieldt | but, they still have 4 minutes :) | 13:56 |
| fifieldt | if you need something to do for a few minutes, it might be worth listing yourself at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team so people can put a name to the IRC handle :) | 13:57 |
| fifieldt | this is a new group, after all | 13:57 |
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| fifieldt | yay lsell :D | 13:59 |
| fifieldt | hieulq_: I think you were also planning to attend? | 13:59 |
| lsell | hello there | 13:59 |
| emccormick | good morning everyone :) | 13:59 |
| fifieldt | hi! | 13:59 |
| hieulq_ | fifieldt, yo o/ | 13:59 |
| * dabukalam is here | 14:00 | |
| dabukalam | o/ | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | excellent | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | well, the time is upon us | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | it seems we have enough to kick it off | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | so here goes | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | #startmeeting Ops Meetups Team | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 14:00:59 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is fifieldt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetups_team' | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | Hello all, and welcome to the first ever meeting of the generically-named "Ops Meetups Team". | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | NB: If you're new, or just idling in the channel, be sure to have read: | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ops_Meetups_Team | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | for background. | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | Thank you very much for coming - I'm excited about what we're going to achieve together! | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | Today's agenda starts with some fairly boring administrative stuff, and finishes with the excitement of working out how we're going to pull off the next meetup in short order. | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | # link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | I suspect that we'll probably get through the entire hour today, but the faster we get through agenda items 1 & 2, the more likely the following meetings will be shorter, so here goes. | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | Firstly: please write your name down on the agenda etherpad as a way of introduction, since we're a new crew. Also, please help to collaboratively summarise the discussion. | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | Secondly, if there's something else burning to put on the agenda (very likely I've missed something obvious), please add it to that same etherpad. | 14:02 |
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| fifieldt | raise of hands for attendance? | 14:02 |
| dabukalam | o/ | 14:02 |
| hieulq_ | o/ | 14:02 |
| serverascode | o/ | 14:02 |
| shintaro | o/ | 14:02 |
| Zucan | o/ | 14:02 |
| MeganR | o/ | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | o/ | 14:02 |
| emccormick | o/ | 14:02 |
| jproulx | o/ | 14:02 |
| lsell | o/ | 14:02 |
| keekz | o/ | 14:02 |
| s3an2 | 0/ | 14:03 |
| fifieldt | That looks so cool :) | 14:03 |
| fifieldt | Anyway, it's 10PM here in Taiwan, I've got my fluffy slippers on, and that's working for me ... but does it work for you ... | 14:03 |
| fifieldt | #topic Meeting Time | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | WFM | 14:03 |
| fifieldt | ==> Is this time OK for the ongoing meeting time? | 14:03 |
| clayton | o/ | 14:03 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 14:03 |
| mrhillsman | sorry | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | o/ | 14:03 |
| MeganR | o/ | 14:03 |
| dabukalam | fifieldt: seems reasonable, considering the timezone distribution | 14:03 |
| emccormick | o/ | 14:03 |
| jproulx | o/ | 14:03 |
| keekz | o/ | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | we are just on coffee two in NYC | 14:04 |
| shintaro | 1hr earlier would be better for me but works | 14:04 |
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| serverascode | time works for me | 14:04 |
| fifieldt | indeed, it is 11pm in Japan, so quite late | 14:04 |
| fifieldt | do we have folks from US west coast, though"? | 14:04 |
| dabukalam | and 7am on the west coast :) | 14:04 |
| hieulq_ | fifieldt, it's 9PM in Vietnam, so it work for me | 14:04 |
| fifieldt | anyone from EU? | 14:05 |
| dabukalam | I'm in Austin temporarily for OSCON, so 9am here, but have been on the west coast recently | 14:05 |
| * med_ is late | 14:05 | |
| med_ | I'm here now though | 14:05 |
| * med_ had to restart his IRC proxy | 14:05 | |
| fifieldt | welcome med_ | 14:05 |
| med_ | \0 | 14:05 |
| med_ | \o | 14:05 |
| fifieldt | so, related question | 14:05 |
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| fifieldt | Frequency | 14:05 |
| fifieldt | ==> is a frequency of every two weeks OK? | 14:05 |
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| mihalis68 | o/ | 14:06 |
| emccormick | o/ | 14:06 |
| Zucan | o/ | 14:06 |
| shintaro | o/ | 14:06 |
| keekz | o/ | 14:06 |
| med_ | wfm | 14:06 |
| med_ | o/ | 14:06 |
| hieulq_ | o/ | 14:06 |
| clayton | o/ | 14:06 |
| fifieldt | OK, so what I'm hearing is that we should meet at 1400 UTC, on Tuesdays, every two weeks. Roughly? | 14:06 |
| emccormick | perhaps an extra meeting or two as we approach mid-cycle / summits, but generally good | 14:06 |
| fifieldt | right, that is a good point | 14:06 |
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| fifieldt | there is a natural tendancy to need more closer to the events | 14:07 |
| fifieldt | tendency* | 14:07 |
| dabukalam | +1 | 14:07 |
| fifieldt | so maybe we kick it off at every two weeks, because we have a lot to do to get this started | 14:07 |
| jproulx | emccormick +1 | 14:07 |
| fifieldt | then expect a bit more closer to the ops meetups | 14:07 |
| keekz | +1 | 14:07 |
| fifieldt | and maybe after this first one we take it back a bit | 14:07 |
| VW | sounda resaonable | 14:08 |
| fifieldt | would anyone like to comment further? | 14:08 |
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| dabukalam | we can always review afterwards and decide to meet more often if we find that there's far more work to do and no time | 14:08 |
| fifieldt | In the interests of time, and for those who couldn't make it tonight, why don't I email it as a proposal for the mailing list | 14:08 |
| fifieldt | ? | 14:08 |
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| shamail | o/ | 14:08 |
| dabukalam | aha, a wild dc_mattj appears | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | o/ | 14:08 |
| dabukalam | fifieldt: that works | 14:08 |
| fifieldt | ok, | 14:08 |
| dc_mattj | hello, sorry got caught up in some actual cloud operation | 14:08 |
| dabukalam | dc_mattj: those damn clouds | 14:09 |
| fifieldt | nice one :) | 14:09 |
| dc_mattj | have I missed much ? | 14:09 |
| MarkBaker | o/ | 14:09 |
| fifieldt | #action dc_mattj keep the cloud running | 14:09 |
| fifieldt | just meeting time and frequency discussions | 14:09 |
| shamail | I'm just listening in since I have to drop in 20 min :( | 14:09 |
| fifieldt | #action fifieldt to email the mailing list to propose 1400 UTC Tuesdays, every two weeks, with note about changing frequency | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | rough consensus for every two weeks at this time for now, to be reviewed | 14:09 |
| dc_mattj | +1 | 14:09 |
| shamail | +1 | 14:09 |
| emccormick | +1 | 14:10 |
| fifieldt | ok, so, moving on | 14:10 |
| shintaro | +1 | 14:10 |
| fifieldt | #topic Team aims, objectives and scope | 14:10 |
| keekz | +1 | 14:10 |
| fifieldt | ==> Do you agree with what is on the wiki page as the scope for this team? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ops_Meetups_Team | 14:10 |
| fifieldt | discussion! go! | 14:10 |
| med_ | ... reading | 14:10 |
| VW | +1 | 14:10 |
| med_ | +1 | 14:10 |
| dc_mattj | +1 | 14:10 |
| mihalis68 | I agree with it | 14:10 |
| shamail | Looks good to me fifieldt | 14:10 |
| cloudbert | +1 | 14:11 |
| keekz | +1 lgtm | 14:11 |
| dabukalam | yup, +1 | 14:11 |
| emccormick | +1 | 14:11 |
| MeganR | +1 | 14:11 |
| fifieldt | dc_mattj: I added in a sentence based on the discussion we had in Austin to emphasize that the Foundation is here to help with logistics | 14:11 |
| shintaro | +1 | 14:11 |
| Zucan | +1 | 14:11 |
| hieulq_ | +1 | 14:11 |
| dc_mattj | we should probably add a bit about actually running the events though | 14:11 |
| fifieldt | this is true | 14:11 |
| dc_mattj | there will definitely be some input from folks on this team to that | 14:11 |
| fifieldt | there's a whole blank section on "Approach" on that wiki page | 14:12 |
| dc_mattj | especially for midcycles | 14:12 |
| fifieldt | at the moment there's some inherit knowledge that those who've been involved in ops meetup organisation before like dc_mattj , vw and myself have that probably needs to be written down | 14:12 |
| mrhillsman | +1 for scope | 14:12 |
| VW | agree fifieldt | 14:12 |
| mrhillsman | and for your last comment | 14:12 |
| VW | is the thought that this group would do most of the MC'ing, etc during the event? | 14:13 |
| fifieldt | what would you think is best? | 14:13 |
| dc_mattj | I would have thought so, depending on who's comfortable doing that kind of stuff | 14:13 |
| shamail | There is also the whole scheduling piece | 14:13 |
| med_ | is VW van winkle? | 14:13 |
| fifieldt | yessir | 14:13 |
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| med_ | yep, I figured we were MC-ing | 14:13 |
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| med_ | ie, foundation for logistical support | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | IRC handles can be posted to the ether pad to help everyone know who everyone else is | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:14 |
| med_ | do we have a new ehterpad? | 14:14 |
| VW | yes, med_ | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | ^^ as per mihalis68 | 14:14 |
| med_ | kk | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | so the practicalities, to list them very roughly off the top of my head | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | 1) schedule planning process | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | 2) finding moderators for the slots | 14:15 |
| fifieldt | 3) venue selection | 14:15 |
| shamail | We should add a section for those willing to help at meetups but not be a part of the bi-weekly meeting | 14:15 |
| med_ | 4) venue date | 14:15 |
| jproulx | shamail +1 | 14:15 |
| dc_mattj | food | 14:15 |
| med_ | hotel/discount group rate/etc | 14:15 |
| dc_mattj | hotel discounts | 14:15 |
| fifieldt | 4) MCing / intro sessions | 14:16 |
| MarkBaker | optimum # of participants | 14:16 |
| dc_mattj | evening event possibly | 14:16 |
| dc_mattj | +1 MarkBaker | 14:16 |
| mihalis68 | I went to the Philly one and that one was the one that overflowed the hosts facilities. Andrew Mitry said he could help based on that experience | 14:16 |
| mihalis68 | was at comcast now at walmer | 14:16 |
| mrhillsman | +1 MarkBaker should probably be a minimum number? | 14:16 |
| shintaro | # of rooms in the venue | 14:16 |
| mihalis68 | walmart | 14:16 |
| fifieldt | ah, good point MarkBaker - there's also scope in this group for talking about stuff bigger than individual events | 14:16 |
| dc_mattj | it's not entirely down to just having a big venue either | 14:16 |
| fifieldt | such as, how to scale the events | 14:17 |
| dc_mattj | there's an optimum number of people per session for effective communication | 14:17 |
| med_ | yep, probably cap... I think we want to leverage everything we've already learned | 14:17 |
| VW | yeah, a good idea at the number of rooms we might want help | 14:17 |
| med_ | a) charge a token fee | 14:17 |
| med_ | b) have a token fee waiver as needed | 14:17 |
| VW | I know it's a big concern I have with trying to host one here again | 14:17 |
| med_ | c) etc | 14:17 |
| fifieldt | so sorting out what that number is, making it into the schedule grid etc is within scope of this group | 14:17 |
| VW | we have two big spaces, but not a lot of break out spots | 14:17 |
| dabukalam | fifieldt: and also, whether a few cycles down the line whether multiple distributed meetups makes sense rather than just the one | 14:17 |
| dabukalam | and how to manage multiple, and make sure nothing is missed | 14:17 |
| fifieldt | yup | 14:17 |
| med_ | we held breakouts in kumbaya circles in the cafe a couple years ago at Rax. | 14:18 |
| fifieldt | deciding that is in scope of this group, IMO | 14:18 |
| VW | I would agree | 14:18 |
| MarkBaker | mrhillsman, min is probably 20 - 30, max 150 - 200 | 14:18 |
| dc_mattj | dabukalam: we already went round that on the list a while back | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | I recall some support for a max of 150 at the austin talk three weeks ago | 14:18 |
| med_ | so the Manchester (or wherever that UK place was) had 100-150 aiui and it was a "good" meeting as well | 14:18 |
| dc_mattj | I would say 150 is a good number | 14:18 |
| dc_mattj | keeps the costs manageable | 14:18 |
| shamail | dc_mattj: +1 | 14:19 |
| dc_mattj | people can get to know each other, and the sessions are a good size for communication | 14:19 |
| fifieldt | working out the split between the venue, foundation crew, and this group with regards to logistics - such as making the wifi work - will be something we need to look at | 14:19 |
| med_ | I'm not sure the costs scale with the number (I guess it depends on what kind of participant sponsorship there is--free rooms vs conf hotel rooms) | 14:19 |
| med_ | +1 dc_mattj | 14:19 |
| fifieldt | (FYI, there is some beginnings of content on venue selection at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups#Venue_Selection ) | 14:19 |
| dc_mattj | med_ in my experience bigger conference venues end up being £40+ per head per day for catering | 14:20 |
| med_ | nod | 14:20 |
| med_ | ah, food. Good point. | 14:20 |
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| dabukalam | I suspect keeping it at 150 is going to be hard without creating serious barriers. The success of previous meetups and word of mouth will only mean more people will attend in future | 14:20 |
| dc_mattj | Manchester came out at around half that | 14:20 |
| dc_mattj | dabukalam: it's also about keeping it focused properly | 14:20 |
| med_ | so do we think we want ONE mid-cycle or regional ones? | 14:21 |
| dc_mattj | there were a lot of people wanting to come to Manchester who weren't operators or dev | 14:21 |
| lsell | I was going to say 150 seems like an effective number, but I agree the community is growing and we had a lot of angry folks who couldn't attend last time | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | again at the austin talk I leaned about a silicon valley one that got too many people on the list | 14:21 |
| MarkBaker | it is easy to keep at 150 if you are as ruthless as dc_mattj | 14:21 |
| emccormick | Philly was around 200 wasn't it? We're probably going to get larger turnouts in NE and northern CA | 14:21 |
| dabukalam | dc_mattj: right, so you end up with the same problem that the summits have begun to experience | 14:21 |
| dabukalam | (at a much larger scale) | 14:21 |
| dc_mattj | this is an operators meeting | 14:21 |
| dc_mattj | including folks from dev | 14:22 |
| VW | as long as we are talking overall criteria for "where" - were do we stand on alternating geographies from the Summit | 14:22 |
| dc_mattj | VW I like that idea | 14:22 |
| mrhillsman | well we should definitely decide on a cap for the sake of baselining across the board | 14:22 |
| VW | e.g. - Europe/Asia before a North American summit and vice versa? | 14:22 |
| keekz | VW +1, i think it would help get more people involved that may not be able to make it to summit | 14:22 |
| MarkBaker | as a community we need to learn how to deal with popularity. It means considering multiple regional meets or accepting we will have big ons | 14:22 |
| MarkBaker | ones | 14:22 |
| VW | of course, that is always governed somewhat by who's willing to host :) | 14:23 |
| keekz | MarkBaker: or perhaps a multiple smaller ones? | 14:23 |
| dc_mattj | personally my view is to try and keep it as one thing for as long as possible | 14:23 |
| dc_mattj | there's a huge benefit from a wide constituency | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | philly appeared to be on the edge for what works in a single room | 14:23 |
| shamail | +1 | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | where it's full participation, not a "show" like the keynotes at the main summit | 14:24 |
| fifieldt | we do do multiple rooms in the summit ... | 14:24 |
| clayton | +1 | 14:24 |
| dc_mattj | I think we potentially have a couple of offers on the table for venues right now | 14:24 |
| VW | yeah - it's tough - could argue either way, but IDEALLY, you have working groups, carrying items from summit to IRC meetings to midcycle -etc | 14:24 |
| med_ | so pre Barcelona would be N.A.? | 14:24 |
| VW | so I see the risk in spreading it around to too many events | 14:24 |
| med_ | I vote for Vancouver. :^) | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | yes civic hall nyc is 180 people main room and some breakout rooms | 14:24 |
| fifieldt | we do indeed have some offers | 14:24 |
| fifieldt | btw this discussion is looking excellent - I think in the past 12 minutes we've listed our year's worth of topics to attack and and solve :) | 14:24 |
| dc_mattj | Milan and NY were the two I know of | 14:24 |
| fifieldt | as we're still in the Team aims/objectives/scope agenda item | 14:25 |
| fifieldt | any objections to moving to the next one | 14:25 |
| fifieldt | which is indeed about the next upcoming meetup | 14:25 |
| VW | Milan as in Italy? | 14:25 |
| fifieldt | ? | 14:25 |
| shamail | fifieldt: +1 | 14:25 |
| mrhillsman | ^ | 14:25 |
| med_ | +1 | 14:25 |
| dabukalam | fifieldt: nope, go ahead | 14:25 |
| dc_mattj | VW: yes | 14:25 |
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| fifieldt | #topic Upcoming mid-cycle Ops meetup | 14:25 |
| VW | if so, I'd say we get a head start on the fall then ;) | 14:25 |
| jproulx | Geographically I like keeping it 'opposite' the summits for soem value of oppose | 14:25 |
| fifieldt | sorry for the procedural interruption, do go ahead :) | 14:25 |
| dc_mattj | +1 | 14:25 |
| VW | or winter actually | 14:25 |
| mrhillsman | +1 jproulx | 14:25 |
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| fifieldt | So, I think we need something in ~August | 14:26 |
| * med_ wonders who has a site in Milan.... may need to update my resume' | 14:26 | |
| fifieldt | does that sound right to folks? | 14:26 |
| dc_mattj | +1 | 14:26 |
| VW | yes fifieldt | 14:26 |
| med_ | +1 | 14:26 |
| clayton | yeap | 14:26 |
| jproulx | +1 | 14:26 |
| Zucan | +1 August | 14:26 |
| VW | at this point, it will be a mad dash to plan and we shouldn't go much later than that | 14:26 |
| emccormick | eThere's the Openstack East event in NYC in August | 14:26 |
| VW | or we are right up on summit | 14:26 |
| shamail | +1 to Aug | 14:26 |
| emccormick | need to be aware of conflicts or consider colocating | 14:26 |
| keekz | +1 | 14:26 |
| mrhillsman | OpenStack Days Texas Aug 25th | 14:26 |
| fifieldt | yup - vw is right on the sandwich factor | 14:26 |
| fifieldt | we do need to be aware of those events too | 14:27 |
| shamail | Could we possibly target the same week as OpenStackDay East? This would allow people to do two events if they are traveling | 14:27 |
| fifieldt | when is East, emccormick ? | 14:27 |
| dc_mattj | shamail: +1 | 14:27 |
| med_ | I'd definitely want to NOT consider too strongly regional event conflicts. I'm fine with considering mid-cycle project events as potential conflicts. | 14:27 |
| med_ | ie, nova mid-cyc, etc. | 14:27 |
| fifieldt | (NB: part of the date selection depends on venue availability) | 14:27 |
| mrhillsman | med_ +1 | 14:27 |
| jproulx | since we were just in NA and headed to Europe I think ASia would be next, but having no offers and short time may be impractical this go round | 14:27 |
| med_ | NECTAR? | 14:28 |
| emccormick | I brought up the NYC thing as a possible colocation thing more than an avoidance thing | 14:28 |
| fifieldt | haha, ask sorrison | 14:28 |
| VW | North America, med_ | 14:28 |
| med_ | emccormick, understood. | 14:28 |
| mrhillsman | i know we say opposite summit, but would it make more sense to line up with summit? | 14:28 |
| emccormick | it would be nice to hit both events at once | 14:28 |
| dc_mattj | jproulx: there were some potential issues raised in Austin about Asia with regards to language barriers | 14:28 |
| VW | no mrhillsman | 14:28 |
| mrhillsman | considering $$ | 14:28 |
| shamail | emccormick: +1 | 14:28 |
| VW | because there are those that can't travel some ways | 14:28 |
| fifieldt | so mihalis68 has some ideas that could be interesting | 14:28 |
| clayton | emccormick: +1 I like the idea of adjoining another event | 14:29 |
| VW | so it's a double whammy if both are regionally the same in a 6 month period | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | well we can get civic hall early in august for two consecutive days. 180 people main hall | 14:29 |
| fifieldt | shintaro may have some ideas on asia, too | 14:29 |
| med_ | agreed, we had no representation in the Man meetup due to travel concerns. Asia would likely be the same. Not sure how we can better support the APAC folks but... | 14:29 |
| mrhillsman | i was thinking more like some days before summit | 14:29 |
| mrhillsman | but i gotcha | 14:29 |
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| shintaro | I need to find the venue in Tokyo | 14:30 |
| med_ | mrhillsman, the summit itself is already an ops meetup | 14:30 |
| jproulx | mrhillsman we're alread at the summit though yes? | 14:30 |
| med_ | and more so in the future. | 14:30 |
| fifieldt | (For those new, OpenStack summits happen every 6 months in a rotation that's approx US-EU-US-Asia) | 14:30 |
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| clayton | fifieldt: I think you suggested it at the summit, but I think it makes sense to follow something similar, with an offset | 14:30 |
| fifieldt | shintaro, I vaguely remember that tokyo day co-location was being looked into, but I understand that venue space in Tokyo is very difficult :) | 14:30 |
| med_ | $$$$¥¥¥¥¥¥ | 14:31 |
| fifieldt | we've also had the folks from best buy get in touch | 14:31 |
| jproulx | APAC definitely has challenges, I'm not opposed to NYC this time and catching up with the hoped for rotation later | 14:31 |
| shintaro | fifieldt: yes Tokyo Days is in June and we do not have enough room for this event | 14:31 |
| shintaro | July | 14:31 |
| fifieldt | so, one of the key questions i have is | 14:31 |
| fifieldt | if we have multiple venue options | 14:31 |
| fifieldt | how do we choose? | 14:31 |
| dc_mattj | NY would work well for EU folks | 14:31 |
| med_ | NYC or just NY State? | 14:32 |
| emccormick | Openstack East is 8/23 - 8/24 (Tue., wed.). Could do Thu, Fri or have 1 day overlap with Mon., Tue. | 14:32 |
| clayton | fifieldt: you mean cheap and regional vs central and expensive? | 14:32 |
| fifieldt | naw | 14:32 |
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| serverascode | (side note: tokyo was less expensive for me than palo alto) | 14:32 |
| clayton | I didn't attend MAN because it was 2 days of travel time for a 2 day event, and that's coming from the US east coast | 14:32 |
| fifieldt | as in two or more awesome users, in the right geography we're looking at, come forward and offer to host | 14:32 |
| dc_mattj | fifieldt: has that happened so far ? | 14:32 |
| fifieldt | how do we choose one over the other in a fair, transparent way that doesn't frustrate people | 14:32 |
| med_ | what about us so-so users? :^) | 14:33 |
| fifieldt | dc_mattj: it's been one of the crappiest things I've had to do | 14:33 |
| fifieldt | was deal with having to say no to people, based on behind-the-scenes dealings :) | 14:33 |
| dc_mattj | promise them for the next cycle around ? | 14:33 |
| med_ | fifieldt, Condorcet? | 14:33 |
| clayton | fifieldt: vote? | 14:33 |
| dabukalam | fifieldt: I think we need to get a better idea of where people are to enable us to make this devision fairly | 14:33 |
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| mihalis68 | +1 | 14:33 |
| fifieldt | I think I' | 14:33 |
| fifieldt | ve | 14:33 |
| med_ | decision or division? | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | decision :D | 14:33 |
| dabukalam | *decision | 14:33 |
| fifieldt | probably promised "next time" to about 3-4 folks, and probably just forgot to reply to others | 14:33 |
| dc_mattj | lol | 14:34 |
| VW | hmm - that is tough | 14:34 |
| fifieldt | so I'm hoping this group can come up with a proposal :) | 14:34 |
| clayton | I think it might makes sense to come up with some sort of scoring for each option as a filter pre-voting or to inform voting | 14:34 |
| dc_mattj | one other thing to consider in this context is vendor neutrality | 14:34 |
| cloudbert | +1 | 14:34 |
| dabukalam | +1 | 14:34 |
| jproulx | clayton + | 14:34 |
| MarkBaker | So I would say that hosting venues hosted by users take preference over vendor venues | 14:34 |
| clayton | it's hard to vote in an informed way without information like "this venue is really small, but with a host that will cover all costs" | 14:35 |
| med_ | vs. operator neutrality | 14:35 |
| dc_mattj | we love sponsors, but don't want the event to be overshadowed by one or other vendor | 14:35 |
| jproulx | I liek the idea of having criteria we can score | 14:35 |
| VW | in theory - if we can get a couple of mid-cicyles ahead in planing, we might even be able to solicit member imput | 14:35 |
| VW | to the choices | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | Some clear desires have been expressed that I think have strong backing - rotating geography in opposition to main summit in terms of region | 14:35 |
| dabukalam | MarkBaker: dc_mattj: +1 | 14:35 |
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| mihalis68 | is that fully agreed? | 14:35 |
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| dc_mattj | +1 if possible | 14:35 |
| VW | +1 | 14:35 |
| keekz | mihalis68: +1 | 14:35 |
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| dc_mattj | I think we've also got to be pragmatic about what offers are on the table | 14:35 |
| dc_mattj | re hosting | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | I think this group could lock in a region and a time range and then ask for proposals | 14:35 |
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| med_ | seems like there are two topics/proposals on the table at once so I can't +1 until I know what we are voting on | 14:36 |
| jproulx | I'd say geo preference is 'Strongly desirable' | 14:36 |
| fifieldt | +1 mihalis68 | 14:36 |
| med_ | I anti-geo preference? | 14:36 |
| med_ | +1 on that | 14:36 |
| emccormick | +1 for rotating geography | 14:36 |
| fifieldt | what do other folks think about an open call for proposals within a region>? | 14:36 |
| emccormick | opposite summits | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | @fifieldt you can restate proposals and have a vote | 14:36 |
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| emccormick | +1 for proposals in a region | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | (I am still learning IRC!) | 14:37 |
| fifieldt | mihalis68: I think the meetbot has vote functionality somewhere | 14:37 |
| VW | yes, fifieldt - I'm good with acall for proposals | 14:37 |
| mrhillsman | +1 for proposals in a region | 14:37 |
| dabukalam | fifieldt: while I think this should remain as open a process as possible, considering our worries about sizing and non-operators/devs attending and using up important space, shouldn't we avoid promoting this widely? | 14:37 |
| fifieldt | so, an addendum then | 14:38 |
| cloudbert | Agree with making regional decisions and then considering proposals | 14:38 |
| med_ | eventbrite allows limited tickets. | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | ooh nice | 14:38 |
| dabukalam | med_: right, which doesn't help if we get 150 salespeople | 14:38 |
| dabukalam | and no operators can attend | 14:38 |
| mrhillsman | is there a method/way to determine ops vs dev/non-ops? | 14:38 |
| med_ | not afaik | 14:38 |
| dabukalam | mrhillsman: I don't think discrimination is a good idea either | 14:38 |
| mrhillsman | lol | 14:38 |
| dabukalam | :D | 14:38 |
| Zucan | As much as that sounds interesting... I don't think we should go down the "determine worthiness" rabbit hole. | 14:38 |
| dc_mattj | nope | 14:38 |
| dabukalam | Zucan: +1 | 14:38 |
| dc_mattj | worry about things when they happen | 14:38 |
| mrhillsman | it's not discrimination or worthiness | 14:38 |
| fifieldt | ok, just to close off the venue selection topic quickly | 14:39 |
| mrhillsman | it's simply a what you do | 14:39 |
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| mrhillsman | but i digress | 14:39 |
| fifieldt | 1. This group, as an organ of community feedback, determines approximate dates for the ops midcycles | 14:39 |
| emccormick | Last time you had a big thing at the top of the email saying basically "IF YOU'RE NOT AN OPERATOR, STAY HOME. THIS IS NOT FOR YOU". Did you end up with a bunch of sales people and noobs in Manchester? | 14:39 |
| fifieldt | 2. This group, as an organ of community feedback, determines regions for the ops midcycles | 14:39 |
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| Zucan | Maybe that was why Manchester was half its normal size for a meetup? :) | 14:39 |
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| * med_ feels like an organ at times.... generally appendix. | 14:40 | |
| fifieldt | 3. Once 2 &3 are decided, an open call for proposals will be sent out for hosts matching the criteria | 14:40 |
| med_ | 2 & 3? | 14:40 |
| med_ | 1 & 2? | 14:40 |
| mrhillsman | ^ | 14:40 |
| fifieldt | 1 &2 , sorry | 14:40 |
| dc_mattj | emccormick: no, we had none of either I don't think | 14:40 |
| fifieldt | Do you agree with the above 3 statements? | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | both 1&1 are o/ for me | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | 1&2 | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | darnit | 14:41 |
| mrhillsman | fifieldt: +1 | 14:41 |
| med_ | 1,2,3 +1 | 14:41 |
| dc_mattj | now I'm confused ;) | 14:41 |
| mrhillsman | agreed | 14:41 |
| mihalis68 | o/ | 14:41 |
| hieulq_ | +1 | 14:41 |
| dc_mattj | +1 on whatever numbers they were | 14:41 |
| shintaro | +1 | 14:41 |
| cloudbert | Yes 1,2, 3 fifieldt and agree with VW that if we plan ahead makes the whole thing easier. | 14:41 |
| emccormick | +1 on the process | 14:41 |
| MeganR | +1 | 14:41 |
| VW | process looks good to me | 14:41 |
| fifieldt | are there any comments on that? perhaps an open call is a bad idea? | 14:41 |
| keekz | +1 | 14:41 |
| dabukalam | +1 | 14:41 |
| med_ | fifieldt, there are now (apparently) and have certainly been offers pre-planning in the past | 14:42 |
| emccormick | and let's not make ourselves neurotic on the attendees. Just leave Tom's discouraging disclaimer on all announcements :) | 14:42 |
| mrhillsman | i don't think open call is a bad idea | 14:42 |
| dabukalam | fifieldt: maybe not a bad idea, but done carefully | 14:42 |
| med_ | or rather, seemed to be pre-planning.... | 14:42 |
| dc_mattj | if we've got offers, I don't think we need an open call | 14:42 |
| med_ | so we just add those early offers into the mix? | 14:42 |
| jproulx | got distracted, I think an open call is good so long as we have clear selection criteria with it so we get good submissions | 14:42 |
| fifieldt | we could do either | 14:42 |
| mrhillsman | jproulx: +1 | 14:42 |
| med_ | jproulx, +1 | 14:42 |
| fifieldt | IMO we don't want to make the process to onerous | 14:42 |
| fifieldt | since it's a huge effort to offer to host one of these things | 14:42 |
| fifieldt | and people have been very generous in the past | 14:42 |
| med_ | so selection criteria/toolset/etc needs to be prioritized before open call is ever done. | 14:42 |
| fifieldt | don't want to come across as arrogant/ungratful | 14:42 |
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| mrhillsman | i think stuff as simple as like at least 150 seats, etc etc | 14:43 |
| jproulx | for this round given existing offers and short time go with what we've got though | 14:43 |
| VW | very true fifieldt | 14:43 |
| dabukalam | fifieldt: are our existing offers more users or vendors? | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | open call fine by me | 14:43 |
| s3an2 | med_, +1 | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | and we put in an offer | 14:43 |
| med_ | and that open call needs to be pretty SPECIFIC: Need venue that can handle N rooms, and M*N people | 14:43 |
| dc_mattj | dabukalam: users | 14:43 |
| fifieldt | this time users dabukalam | 14:43 |
| mrhillsman | nothing anal but some basic minimums | 14:43 |
| fifieldt | previous times have been vendors | 14:43 |
| fifieldt | so, I was going to propose: | 14:43 |
| dank_ | We can supply you with space in 2 locations, theatres in each location and multiple breakout areas, plus we aren’t a vendor or noobs ;) | 14:44 |
| med_ | when you say vendor, what do you mean? I thought of comcast as a user. | 14:44 |
| jproulx | fifieldt don't want to add hurdles just express needs. | 14:44 |
| fifieldt | 4. Based on what comes back from the call, This Group decides what to do using $PROCESS_TO_BE_DETERMINED | 14:44 |
| lsell | and datacentred | 14:44 |
| fifieldt | it could be that a vote etc is not needed sometimes | 14:44 |
| med_ | #4 "the call" the call for hosting volunteers? | 14:44 |
| fifieldt | open call for hosts, yes | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | user means an org whose primary interest IN OPENSTACK is using it | 14:44 |
| med_ | okey-doke. | 14:44 |
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| med_ | +1, #4 | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | not selling to people who use it | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | obviously we sell something | 14:45 |
| fifieldt | ok, I need someone to take an action item to write up this philosophy about "users" being preferred as hosts over "vendors" | 14:45 |
| fifieldt | it's clear that there's consensus here, someone just needs to write it down well :) | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | I could try, but noob alert | 14:45 |
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| mihalis68 | happy to in fact | 14:45 |
| fifieldt | I like it :D | 14:45 |
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| med_ | go for it into the etherpad please | 14:45 |
| emccormick | I'm still kinda lost on the vendor v. user distinction | 14:46 |
| mrhillsman | in the fear of sounding dumb, why do we need to prefer one host over another? | 14:46 |
| emccormick | in my mind Comcast = user | 14:46 |
| fifieldt | #action mihalis68 to write up "users" vs "vendors" hosting philosophy | 14:46 |
| mihalis68 | accepted | 14:46 |
| med_ | mrhillsman, I don't think we want to be a captured audience for marketing | 14:46 |
| emccormick | Redhat / Suse / Mirantis = vendor | 14:46 |
| emccormick | yes? | 14:46 |
| fifieldt | I suspect this will be easiuer to get after we see it written down, mrhillsman | 14:46 |
| shintaro | vendors sometimes have internal ops for their private clouds | 14:46 |
| mrhillsman | agreed, but that can be clearly stated | 14:46 |
| med_ | and Cisco, Juniper, Cumulus.... | 14:46 |
| emccormick | ie. If you'd have a booth in the marketplace, you're a vendor | 14:46 |
| fifieldt | also true shintaro | 14:46 |
| mrhillsman | ok fifieldt | 14:46 |
| emccormick | if you're up for a superuser award, you're a user | 14:47 |
| med_ | +1 emccormick | 14:47 |
| fifieldt | so, it was the HP public cloud team who kicked off the palo alto event | 14:47 |
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| fifieldt | ok, we have 13 minuntes left | 14:47 |
| keekz | emccormick: i've seen some cases where both apply, though | 14:47 |
| emccormick | user | 14:47 |
| fifieldt | it seems like those points were agreed, so I'm going to enter them into the minutes | 14:47 |
| med_ | and I think they were very very non-vendor-y at that event | 14:47 |
| fifieldt | unless there are any objections? | 14:47 |
| emccormick | because HP public cloud was a public cloud not HP enterprise services | 14:47 |
| med_ | s/they/HP | 14:47 |
| emccormick | they are technically both so they are confusing :) | 14:47 |
| fifieldt | #agreed 1. This group, as an organ of community feedback, determines approximate dates for the ops midcycles | 14:48 |
| mihalis68 | I ended up with an eye-watering black on purple color scheme on etherpad | 14:48 |
| jlk | oh, right, meeting. | 14:48 |
| fifieldt | #agreed 2. This group, as an organ of community feedback, determines regions for the ops midcycles | 14:48 |
| mihalis68 | I might have to write this definition elsewhere and paste it | 14:48 |
| fifieldt | #agreed 3. Once 1 &2 are decided, an open call for proposals will be sent out for hosts matching the criteria | 14:48 |
| fifieldt | all good mihalis68 | 14:48 |
| fifieldt | #agreed 4. Based on what comes back from the call, This Group decides what to do using $PROCESS_TO_BE_DETERMINED | 14:48 |
| fifieldt | OK, so thanks for standing by there | 14:48 |
| * med_ confirms, embraces, and approves of this fifieldt message. | 14:49 | |
| fifieldt | now, if we're going to have one of these in August, we need to move fast | 14:49 |
| * VW does as well | 14:49 | |
| dc_mattj | +1 | 14:49 |
| dc_mattj | if we have a proposed venue we need to lock it down ASAP | 14:49 |
| fifieldt | any volunteers to write up a draft email about the upcoming meetup to go to the ops list | 14:49 |
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| fifieldt | including the date: august | 14:49 |
| fifieldt | approximate location: US? | 14:49 |
| med_ | that's a good point, being RESPONSIVE to offers is important or offer--ees may hae to retract. | 14:49 |
| med_ | or not be able to meet their offer if accepted too late. | 14:49 |
| dc_mattj | fifieldt: to solicit feedback on dates ? | 14:50 |
| med_ | North America, I'd say either coast since we were just Mid-America | 14:50 |
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| med_ | either coast suits one or another region | 14:50 |
| emccormick | N.A. and August | 14:50 |
| fifieldt | dc_mattj: I think we're more of less agreed on August, based on discussion before | 14:50 |
| fifieldt | after august too close to the summit | 14:50 |
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| emccormick | Canada is OK too | 14:50 |
| fifieldt | pre august, too crazy to organise | 14:50 |
| emccormick | N.A. in general | 14:50 |
| dc_mattj | do we want to lock in the venue first ? | 14:50 |
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| med_ | NA, either coast. I'd recommend coastal for travel reasons (due to Austin being mid-america) | 14:51 |
| fifieldt | I think date is a prerequisite of locking in the venue, no, dc_mattj ? | 14:51 |
| fifieldt | approximate date, anyway? | 14:51 |
| dc_mattj | or are we proposing to ask for venue proposals for this one ? | 14:51 |
| VW | agust in NA is good with me | 14:51 |
| med_ | I think they are symbiotic: date and venue | 14:51 |
| dc_mattj | chicken and egg problem | 14:51 |
| med_ | one can dictate the other (and either can be the one) | 14:51 |
| fifieldt | dc_mattj: I have two offers (that I remember) in my inbox at the moment | 14:51 |
| emccormick | Chicago is pretty easy international also. Direct flights to all over. No need to limit to the coasts I don't think | 14:52 |
| fifieldt | so there needs to be some way of dealing with that | 14:52 |
| dc_mattj | do you want to share who those offers are from for this group ? | 14:52 |
| med_ | emccormick, hmmm. Tokyo/Beijing to Chicago. Okay. For that matter so is Denver... but not say, St Louis | 14:52 |
| fifieldt | Bloomberg and BestBuy | 14:52 |
| dc_mattj | whereabouts are BestBuy ? | 14:52 |
| fifieldt | I know shintaro is also very interested in getting something running in Asia, too | 14:52 |
| med_ | +1 on the offers | 14:52 |
| dank_ | @fifieldt BBY is flexible on location and dates | 14:52 |
| fifieldt | just not sure about the timing | 14:52 |
| dank_ | we have offices in Minnesota and Seattle | 14:52 |
| med_ | dank_, cool. | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | thank you very much dank_ :) | 14:53 |
| jlk | Seattle would be lovely :D | 14:53 |
| steviee | I'm with BBY; we have two locations Seattle (S. Lake Union) or Minneapolis | 14:53 |
| emccormick | +1 for Seattle :D | 14:53 |
| cloudbert | +1 Seatt;e | 14:53 |
| * med_ has to drop but will review minutes. | 14:53 | |
| dabukalam | -1 for seattle | 14:53 |
| dank_ | Our seattle location is lovely, we have a 200 person theatre and multiple breakout rooms you can use. | 14:53 |
| emccormick | ok we're done then. Meeting adjourned ;) | 14:53 |
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| mrhillsman | lol | 14:53 |
| dc_mattj | long way for us :( | 14:53 |
| dabukalam | (even though I'm currently on the west coast, I just think that will be unfair to EU operators) | 14:54 |
| emccormick | true. Tough or EU | 14:54 |
| zioproto | dc_mattj: I agree, NYC would be easier, less jet lag for the short meetup | 14:54 |
| fifieldt | anyway, so they're both amazing offers from really cool people | 14:54 |
| VW | agreed | 14:54 |
| fifieldt | we have but 6 minutes left | 14:54 |
| dc_mattj | agreed | 14:54 |
| mihalis68 | threw som words on ether pad about definition of user, but not happy with it, more later | 14:54 |
| dabukalam | fifieldt: yup, both Minneapolis and NY could work | 14:54 |
| fifieldt | and I think talking about those deserves more time than we have left | 14:54 |
| fifieldt | since, it is a really big deal to step up and offer to host one of these things | 14:54 |
| fifieldt | so I want to give the most respect we possibly can :) | 14:55 |
| mihalis68 | I guess I take an action to write one offer up, since people seem to like the idea of lock in region and time range and then look at offers | 14:55 |
| zioproto | flying from EU for the meeting is okay, but try to keep it within 6 hours of Jet Lag from London please :) | 14:55 |
| VW | next meeting then fifieldt? | 14:55 |
| dc_mattj | postpone that decision to the next meeting ? | 14:55 |
| emccormick | Do you have specifics on the offers? | 14:55 |
| mrhillsman | monday-tuesday aligning with days east? or earlier in Aug? | 14:55 |
| fifieldt | since this is all very new and exciting | 14:55 |
| mrhillsman | sounds like we have a venue already? | 14:55 |
| emccormick | we could review and maybe come up with selection criteria so we can move quickly on it before next meeting or by next meeting | 14:55 |
| fifieldt | I think it might be nice to get those folks who have venues some time to process all of this | 14:55 |
| fifieldt | rather than demanding immediate details :) | 14:56 |
| fifieldt | unless I'm speaking out of turn ... | 14:56 |
| VW | no, sounds completely reasonable | 14:56 |
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| dank_ | +1 | 14:56 |
| mrhillsman | next meeting enough time? | 14:56 |
| dabukalam | VW: +1 | 14:56 |
| emccormick | oh sorry, thought you had details already. Certainly give them time :) | 14:56 |
| dc_mattj | some of this does come down to logistics though - if we cap at 200, with 2 tracks and breakouts, then it does define the number and size of rooms required | 14:56 |
| fifieldt | ok, so what I'd like to see is some traffic on the mailing list | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | I believe our offer only has limited time slots available already, since August is "near" for venue booking in NYC | 14:57 |
| fifieldt | does anyone want to email out the summary, or shall I do that? | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | I will write something and fwd to Tom (since I'm new to all this). If all ok will fwd to mailing list | 14:57 |
| fifieldt | I'm happy to vett anything | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | I can have a go at that tom | 14:57 |
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| fifieldt | if you're sure mihalis68 ? | 14:58 |
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| mihalis68 | not 100% but I think it's clear you want to devolve this | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | so yes I will | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | much appreciated | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | with two minutes left, any other action items we didn't enter into the minutes? | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | #action fifieldt to arrange next meeting in two weeks | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | one minute ... | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | think that was a lot already! | 14:59 |
| fifieldt | huge amounts | 14:59 |
| mrhillsman | big ups to you fifieldt for getting this together | 14:59 |
| dabukalam | fifieldt: thanks for leading and driving this fifieldt | 14:59 |
| mrhillsman | and whoever may have helped ;) | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | +1 | 14:59 |
| emccormick | +1 | 14:59 |
| dabukalam | mrhillsman: +1 | 14:59 |
| keekz | +1 | 14:59 |
| MeganR | +1 | 14:59 |
| fifieldt | Thank _you_ all | 14:59 |
| steviee | +1 | 14:59 |
| fifieldt | this has been an amazing experience | 14:59 |
| fifieldt | I'm so happy we did this | 14:59 |
| shintaro | +1 | 14:59 |
| dc_mattj | do we think this meeting might be better in one of the openstack-meeting channels in the future ? | 15:00 |
| hieulq_ | +1 | 15:00 |
| fifieldt | I'll take that to the ML dc_mattj | 15:00 |
| dc_mattj | cool | 15:00 |
| fifieldt | for now, it's time to say goodbye :) | 15:00 |
| dabukalam | cya | 15:00 |
| fifieldt | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| mihalis68 | TTFN | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 15:00:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| dc_mattj | laters | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-05-17-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| emccormick | so long | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-05-17-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-05-17-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| fifieldt | See you 'around :) | 15:01 |
| VW | thanks for pulling us togehter fifieldt | 15:01 |
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| fifieldt | so much passion about these events, I mean why wouldn't we give the people more control :) | 15:02 |
| fifieldt | no brainer | 15:02 |
| VW | ha | 15:03 |
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| mihalis68 | Sorry for spamming the mailing list. I am getting a bounce message every time from openstack-private | 16:30 |
| mihalis68 | but I see it has gone through | 16:30 |
| serverascode | do we put in a bug somewhere for that? | 16:37 |
| serverascode | the openstack-private bounc | 16:37 |
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| mrhillsman | quite interesting link someone shared with me - https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2016/05/06/doubling-the-performance-of-openstack-swift-with-no-code-changes | 21:49 |
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