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| mrhillsman | o/ | 13:54 |
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| shintaro | hi | 13:54 |
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| VW | howdy | 13:58 |
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| fifieldt | ah, there's that window | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | anyone here for the ops meetups team meeting? | 14:00 |
| shintaro | o/ | 14:00 |
| mihalis68 | yes | 14:00 |
| mihalis68 | http://doodle.com/poll/e4heruzps4g94syf | 14:00 |
| dc_mattj | yes | 14:00 |
| mihalis68 | 55:43 NYC: Seattle | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | ok, that's annoying - I'm getting white text on a white background | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | let me switch clients | 14:00 |
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| VW | o/ | 14:01 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 14:01 |
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| fifieldt | ok, that's better :) | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | now, where were we? | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | I saw shintaro , mihalis68 | 14:01 |
| dc_mattj | me | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | dc_mattj, brilliant | 14:02 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | yay mrhillsman | 14:02 |
| mrhillsman | and VW | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | also VW appears online | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | cool | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | ok | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | #startmeeting Ops Meetups Team | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 21 14:02:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is fifieldt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | Hello all, and welcome to this special fourth edition of the Ops Meetups Team :) I hope you're having a good time with OpenStack. | 14:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetups_team' | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | NB: If you're new, or just idling in the channel, be sure to have read: | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ops_Meetups_Team | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | Today's agenda is so exciting, we're skipping the normal review of previous action items. | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | for background. | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | # link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | # link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team\ | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | As always: please write your name down on the agenda etherpad as a way of introduction, since we're a new crew. | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | Secondly, if there's something else burning to put on the agenda, please add it to that same etherpad. | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | #topic August 2016 Midcycle Venue selection | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | First up, it's time to select the midcycle for August 2016. | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | When we left last week, the decision was made to lay out the two options and the research done by the venue team (thanks Shintaro and gfa!) on the ML. Accompanying that was a poll. | 14:03 |
| fifieldt | We didn't get a lot of discussion on the ML (aside from a very important note about visas), but we did get a massive response to the poll. | 14:03 |
| fifieldt | In all, 75 participated. | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | agreed! | 14:03 |
| fifieldt | would someone care to share the results of the poll? | 14:03 |
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| mihalis68 | currently 55 to 43 | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | in favor of NYC | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | http://doodle.com/poll/e4heruzps4g94syf | 14:03 |
| fifieldt | #link http://doodle.com/poll/e4heruzps4g94syf | 14:03 |
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| fifieldt | indeed, I checked on several occasions, and somehow NYC seemed to retain a lead throughout | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | would anyone care to comment on whether this is a strong enough indication? | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | I am biased obviously | 14:04 |
| mrhillsman | somehow hehe | 14:04 |
| dc_mattj | I think it is | 14:04 |
| mrhillsman | +1 | 14:04 |
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| shintaro | +1, too | 14:05 |
| s3an2 | +1 | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | Tom you've set these up before, how does this compare to previous discussions (however the venues were chosen previously)? | 14:05 |
| mrhillsman | it is what we bound ourselves to | 14:05 |
| gfa | hi | 14:05 |
| fifieldt | So, in many cases when we were doing the behind-the-scenes non-open decision making thing | 14:06 |
| gfa | 20% i think is enough | 14:06 |
| fifieldt | we'd knock out candidates based on venue specs | 14:06 |
| fifieldt | then it often came down to which coast was more due | 14:06 |
| dc_mattj | or in the case of Manchester, who volunteered for the pain ... | 14:06 |
| fifieldt | I feel that having 75 responses is a pretty good sample of the community | 14:06 |
| fifieldt | right :) all hail dc_mattj ! | 14:06 |
| fifieldt | in any case, I'm reasonably happy with the openness here | 14:07 |
| dc_mattj | looking at the names and geographical spread it looks fairly representative | 14:07 |
| fifieldt | and it is a seriously tough call - two fantastic groups of people with great space | 14:07 |
| VW | 20% victory + no East Coast meeting before seems like a good case for a winner to me | 14:07 |
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| fifieldt | how does everyone feel ? | 14:08 |
| mrhillsman | :) | 14:08 |
| dc_mattj | +1 | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | Civic Hall has received another indication of interest in "our" slot in August. If this meeting locks in NYC I'll confirm it today to avoid the risk of losing it | 14:08 |
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| fifieldt | I believe we must make a decision today | 14:08 |
| shintaro | looks fair result to me | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | the visa timetable also presses for today or very very soon | 14:09 |
| mrhillsman | i would say it has been made | 14:09 |
| fifieldt | The other thing we can't ignore is that 80% is still a lot of interest in the Seattle space | 14:09 |
| fifieldt | so should we ask about doing something there in the future? | 14:09 |
| dc_mattj | +1 | 14:09 |
| mrhillsman | +1 | 14:09 |
| VW | I would say so | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | between-mid-cycle | 14:09 |
| VW | like Next August :D | 14:09 |
| dc_mattj | what were the dates for the slot in NY ? | 14:09 |
| * VW is still big on planning head | 14:09 | |
| mrhillsman | right | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | I'd go to seattle some time for this! | 14:09 |
| VW | s/head/ahead | 14:09 |
| s3an2 | seems the consensus is NYC, Seattle soulds a good future location | 14:10 |
| mihalis68 | 25&36th august | 14:10 |
| mihalis68 | 25th&26th | 14:10 |
| fifieldt | ooh - we can use the vote function to make it official | 14:10 |
| mrhillsman | i cant make 36th | 14:10 |
| mrhillsman | :) | 14:10 |
| mihalis68 | ha ha | 14:10 |
| fifieldt | #startvote NYC for August 2016 mid-cycle, with followup to ask about Seattle as a future location? Agree, Disagree, Other | 14:10 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: NYC for August 2016 mid-cycle, with followup to ask about Seattle as a future location? Valid vote options are Agree, Disagree, Other. | 14:10 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 14:10 |
| VW | #vote Agree | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | #vote Agree | 14:11 |
| dc_mattj | #vote Agree | 14:11 |
| mrhillsman | #vote Agree | 14:11 |
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| shintaro | #vote Agree | 14:11 |
| s3an2 | #vote Agree | 14:11 |
| serverascode | #vote Agree | 14:11 |
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| fifieldt | closing voting in 30 secs | 14:11 |
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| fifieldt | #endvote | 14:12 |
| openstack | Voted on "NYC for August 2016 mid-cycle, with followup to ask about Seattle as a future location?" Results are | 14:12 |
| openstack | Agree (7): mrhillsman, shintaro, mihalis68, s3an2, VW, dc_mattj, serverascode | 14:12 |
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| fifieldt | #agreed - Next Ops Midcycle will be in NYC on August 25, 26, hosted by our friends at Bloomberg | 14:12 |
| fifieldt | OK, by my math, we have about 8 weeks before our schedule date. | 14:12 |
| fifieldt | * We need some volunteers to continue to liase with the space to support mihalis68 | 14:13 |
| fifieldt | Who would like to be on those emails, making sure out layout is good, there are enough power strips to go around, etc | 14:13 |
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| fifieldt | There are in-house venue staff who have already been responsive | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | and I think mihalis68 you may also have some in-company events staff too? | 14:14 |
| dc_mattj | I can help with that, although I won't actually be able to attend as I'm on vacation. I'll be sending two of my team though. | 14:14 |
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| fifieldt | A well earned vacation dc_mattj ! | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | Thanks dc_mattj ! | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | shintaro, gfa, you've already been on some of those venue emails, would you like to continue there too>? | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | We have people who help arrange events, but it's all fairly new to me | 14:14 |
| shintaro | yes, love to. | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | I have just emailed my bloomberg contact for this and the event space contact to lock this in | 14:15 |
| fifieldt | woohoo | 14:15 |
| VW | feel free to throw me on said emails as well | 14:15 |
| fifieldt | cheers | 14:15 |
| fifieldt | So we have several people volunteered who have run these events before | 14:15 |
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| fifieldt | between us we should be able to make it through :) | 14:16 |
| fifieldt | I guess our aim is to share the knowledge | 14:16 |
| fifieldt | also train mihalis68 in the terror of organising these | 14:16 |
| fifieldt | and we might even write some tips down this time as we go | 14:16 |
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| fifieldt | so the future folks have an easier time | 14:16 |
| mihalis68 | I'm cowering in suitably abject terror | 14:16 |
| fifieldt | #action fifieldt to loop shintaro, VW, dc_mattj into mihalis68's email chain with events+venue people | 14:17 |
| dc_mattj | we should review the feedback from the last couple of events - some good points in there | 14:17 |
| fifieldt | that is a great idea | 14:17 |
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| dc_mattj | mainly about food and air conditioning, but valid nonetheless ;) | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | Can the author close that poll? | 14:17 |
| dc_mattj | I can | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | a late voting spree would be very confusing | 14:17 |
| fifieldt | Did you want to do that asynchronously, outside the meeting dc_mattj ? | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | especially if it tried to alter the verdict! | 14:18 |
| fifieldt | or in this meeting? | 14:18 |
| fifieldt | #action fifieldt to email bestbuy folks to ask about venue for the future and link to poll | 14:18 |
| dc_mattj | ah, just closed it | 14:18 |
| fifieldt | thanks again for running that dc_mattj | 14:19 |
| dc_mattj | missed that comment | 14:19 |
| dc_mattj | no worries, it really wasn't that hard ;) | 14:19 |
| fifieldt | so, did we want to look at past venue feedback now | 14:19 |
| fifieldt | or do that asynchronously? | 14:19 |
| * fifieldt also has other fish to fry, so answer fast :P | 14:20 | |
| dc_mattj | probably an offline activity ? | 14:20 |
| VW | I would think so | 14:20 |
| dc_mattj | here's the link from MAN anyway | 14:20 |
| dc_mattj | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MAN-ops-feedback | 14:20 |
| fifieldt | ok, let's each look at the pads | 14:21 |
| fifieldt | and have it in mind when looking at the NYC venue | 14:21 |
| fifieldt | no colective action required | 14:21 |
| fifieldt | also related to feedback, though | 14:21 |
| fifieldt | the next big ticket item we need to get started on immediately ... | 14:21 |
| fifieldt | agenda/schedule brainstorming | 14:21 |
| fifieldt | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups#Topic_Selection | 14:21 |
| fifieldt | ^^ that link has some tips | 14:22 |
| fifieldt | but I'm keen for anyone with energy and new ideas on how to get the best content selected for the event :) | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | you mean that must start in this meeting? Or via email? | 14:22 |
| fifieldt | this meeting will be about the process to get the brainstorming happening | 14:22 |
| fifieldt | rather than the brainstorming itself | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | ah ok got it, thanks | 14:22 |
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| mihalis68 | how did you drum up content in previous such events? | 14:23 |
| fifieldt | so, as per that link, To date, how this has worked has been an etherpad, such as https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-ops-meetup, seeded with information about the aims and session types of the ops meetup ... soliciting feedback | 14:23 |
| fifieldt | but, we don't have to do it that way if someone has a good idea :D | 14:24 |
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| dc_mattj | I think we discussed maybe running sessions based on components, some of which worked well in MAN - does anyone have views on that ? | 14:24 |
| dc_mattj | ie. a Nova session, a Cinder session | 14:24 |
| VW | I think for general sessions, that makes a lot of sense | 14:25 |
| dc_mattj | I think we have to go to the list and see what folks come up as well | 14:25 |
| fifieldt | yes, agenda brainstorming needs to go as wide as possible | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | that ether pad is a big wedge of text! | 14:26 |
| VW | I'd like to figure out how to start a general session early on that allows a team representative from each Team/Working group to introduce the group, explain what they do and lay out goals for the breakout session | 14:26 |
| VW | maybe save time in the breakouts themselves going over all those things | 14:26 |
| dc_mattj | +1 | 14:27 |
| shintaro | good idea! | 14:27 |
| mrhillsman | +1 | 14:27 |
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| dc_mattj | it would also be good somehow to know ahead of time which if any PTL's or core devs can attend, and then to schedule some sessions around that. People found it very useful to have John Garbutt there for example, which really defined the Nova sessions we had | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | that sounds good to me too | 14:28 |
| dc_mattj | VW, maybe an intro session on the first day | 14:28 |
| fifieldt | we also mustn't forget that some people are attending these events for the first time | 14:29 |
| fifieldt | so they don't know the difference betweeen a general session and a working group | 14:29 |
| fifieldt | and also the aims and objectives of the event | 14:29 |
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| dc_mattj | fifieldt, is it worth then repeating our formula of having some intro discussions around aims, contributing etc. etc. | 14:29 |
| mrhillsman | got disconnected but fifieldt please add me to email chain events+venue | 14:29 |
| fifieldt | cheers mrhillsman | 14:29 |
| VW | yeah, fifieldt usually does a great job of laying out the schedule, but in discussing the sessions from Austin, the LDT was trying to figure out a way to skip the repetative stuff that comes in every meeting like "do you all really use cells?" "What's 'large' deploytments", etc | 14:29 |
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| fifieldt | so, scheduling wise, we've traditionally only used the breakout room space in the afternoon | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | fifieldt it would be good for me to refresh on those topics too. I only made it to one of these previously | 14:30 |
| VW | so, we thought a session similar to the Q/A one we had with TC in our first Ops evening in ATL might be cool | 14:30 |
| fifieldt | mihalis68: here's the schedule grid for all past meetups: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=482844086 | 14:31 |
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| fifieldt | so, this is fantastic conversation, btw | 14:31 |
| fifieldt | is any of it stuff that should be asked more widely on the ML? | 14:32 |
| fifieldt | or do we want to lock it down a bit further here? | 14:32 |
| fifieldt | also, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NYC-ops-meetup is now a thing | 14:32 |
| dc_mattj | I think we have to go to the list, although there wasn't a huge amount of traffic IIRC | 14:32 |
| VW | I like the idea of casting a wide net. I'm just thinking that we should agree to carve a little time out to help articulate the difference between general and working sessions | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | i think both is good | 14:33 |
| VW | and hopefully increase the change the working sessions can do work | 14:33 |
| fifieldt | ok, so, one of the things I've done in the past | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | get as much as we can down, leave open, revise, finalize | 14:33 |
| fifieldt | kinda in parallel to the etherpad topic brainstorming | 14:33 |
| fifieldt | was to get out a schedule grid | 14:33 |
| fifieldt | put some times on it | 14:33 |
| fifieldt | and just play a little | 14:33 |
| fifieldt | eg https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=482844086 | 14:34 |
| mrhillsman | +1 | 14:34 |
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| fifieldt | normally, just starting with the room sizes | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | for inclusiveness the mailing list should be asked for contribution, but to get stuff done these weekly or bi-weekly meetings should really try to groom something for people to look at | 14:34 |
| fifieldt | putting in start and finish times, seeing what happened with 40 minute sessinon, lunch, coffee etc | 14:34 |
| fifieldt | right | 14:34 |
| fifieldt | so I guess what I'm saying is - would someone like to have a go at a topicless schedule grid? | 14:34 |
| fifieldt | like in the "NYC" tab of that google sheet? | 14:35 |
| fifieldt | what I would do is just write in "Intro", "Session 1", "Session 2", "Working Group 2" | 14:35 |
| fifieldt | "Lightning Talks" | 14:35 |
| fifieldt | into cells | 14:35 |
| fifieldt | is this making any sense :s | 14:35 |
| fifieldt | :D | 14:35 |
| fifieldt | oh - there is an example in the Barcelona tab | 14:36 |
| fifieldt | how convenient | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | I think I understand what you're asking for | 14:36 |
| fifieldt | we have no constraints other than the room sizes and the venue open/close time, so yeah - basically, how would you schedule everything up given that blank slate | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | I can have a go at it | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | hesitated because I may be worst spreadsheet jockey I know | 14:37 |
| * fifieldt is here to help | 14:37 | |
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| fifieldt | my aim is just to make sure I'm not stifling innovation | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | I can at least make it have the name of city, name of each room and correct date. | 14:38 |
| fifieldt | :D | 14:38 |
| fifieldt | got a google account? | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | I saw a suggestion of organize by component, but I wonder if a better way is "pain points" and "hot topics" | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | pain points : keystone performnace | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | hot topics : containerized openstack | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | yes I am google capable | 14:39 |
| fifieldt | gimme an address and I'll give you the edit rights | 14:39 |
| mihalis68 | mihalis68@gmail.com | 14:39 |
| fifieldt | #action fifieldt to work with mihalis68 to look at the generic (pre-topic) schedule grid | 14:39 |
| fifieldt | ok, rant about schedule timing grid over | 14:40 |
| fifieldt | back to your regular programming | 14:40 |
| fifieldt | Quick one | 14:40 |
| fifieldt | registration | 14:40 |
| fifieldt | everyone OK with eventbrite again? | 14:40 |
| dc_mattj | mihalis68, there will be a set of things that are fairly standard eg. Lightning Talks, Architecture Show and Tell then some stuff other people suggest | 14:40 |
| VW | yes sir | 14:40 |
| fifieldt | it's kinda what the foundation uses | 14:40 |
| dc_mattj | fifieldt, _1 | 14:40 |
| dc_mattj | +1 | 14:40 |
| dc_mattj | even | 14:40 |
| fifieldt | "underscore one" | 14:41 |
| mihalis68 | +1 eventbrite | 14:41 |
| dc_mattj | big question - what about registration fee ? | 14:41 |
| VW | it means he REALLY REALLY agress | 14:41 |
| mrhillsman | +1 eventbrite | 14:41 |
| fifieldt | followup question | 14:41 |
| fifieldt | would yhou like to change any of the content that is on the eventbrite | 14:41 |
| fifieldt | see http://europeanopenstackoperatorsmeetup.eventbrite.com/ | 14:41 |
| mihalis68 | the fee was a tactical thing to prevent idle moochers, I take it | 14:41 |
| fifieldt | exactly mihalis68 | 14:42 |
| fifieldt | damn, we need to have that discussion | 14:42 |
| fifieldt | in Manchester, it was GBP10 | 14:42 |
| fifieldt | people found that very reasonable | 14:42 |
| fifieldt | in NYC is it ... USD10? | 14:42 |
| dc_mattj | a lot of the boilerplate on there is probably ok | 14:42 |
| fifieldt | USD15? | 14:42 |
| dc_mattj | more like USD15 | 14:42 |
| mihalis68 | yep | 14:42 |
| fifieldt | or do we take it to USD20? | 14:42 |
| fifieldt | for those who are new | 14:43 |
| dc_mattj | I would say 20 | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | yeah | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | I agree | 14:43 |
| mrhillsman | i do not think $20 is unreasonable | 14:43 |
| fifieldt | the fee is not a revenue raiser - it doesn't really come close to the costs for the event | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | after I saw 10 pounds, 20 bucks popped into my head too | 14:43 |
| fifieldt | the aim is to get some level of "buy in" | 14:43 |
| VW | 20 is good | 14:43 |
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| fifieldt | so that we get committed people | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | I even recall when the exchange rate hit that briefly :) | 14:44 |
| fifieldt | and we can better manage our "now show" rate | 14:44 |
| fifieldt | no show* | 14:44 |
| fifieldt | OK, so, hearing USD20 | 14:44 |
| fifieldt | which is a ~USD5 rise on last time | 14:44 |
| fifieldt | I propose we also keep the "if this fee prevents you from attending, email tom" | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | I think I have quite a bit of reading in to do: review ether pad, make schedule, review eventbrite, start working with bloomberg people and venue people to make it happen | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | that's great | 14:44 |
| mrhillsman | hehe | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | $20 or ... maybe nothing :) | 14:45 |
| dc_mattj | having said it's not a revenue raiser, it does provide a bit extra non-sponsor cash for the event | 14:45 |
| jproulx | USD20 is good if we end up with high no-show rate we raise it als +1 on email fifeldt | 14:45 |
| fifieldt | noone emailed last time | 14:45 |
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| dc_mattj | call for sponsors ? | 14:45 |
| fifieldt | actually, I wonder what the no-show rate was last time | 14:45 |
| * fifieldt checks | 14:45 | |
| fifieldt | indeed, dc_mattj | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | I think there was a feeling to keep obvious vendor-repping at arms length, so don't want sponsors like $HARDWAREVENDOR or $LARGENETWORKINGCO | 14:46 |
| dc_mattj | fifieldt, IIRC 15% ? | 14:46 |
| fifieldt | : can sopmeone introduce the concept of "underwriters"? | 14:46 |
| mihalis68 | bloomberg's initial thoughts on what we're covering was "We can cover catering (bfast, lunch, snack) and maybe afternoon beer? Wifi and AV is already included at Civic Hall. | 14:46 |
| mihalis68 | " | 14:46 |
| fifieldt | your memory would beat mine dc_mattj | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | so are sponsors needed? | 14:47 |
| dc_mattj | in some ways it's nice to have more than one | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | WalMart (Andrew Mitry) had offered to help with this one | 14:48 |
| fifieldt | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups#Underwriters | 14:48 |
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| mihalis68 | I have no idea if Walmart wishes its name on this somehow | 14:48 |
| fifieldt | mihalis68, one piece of experience from past events | 14:48 |
| fifieldt | sometimes the in-house events/marketing team doesn't quite get that this event is a little bit different | 14:48 |
| fifieldt | so they send along a litany of requests - such as for the registration data, an hour presentation, a booth, etc | 14:49 |
| fifieldt | some education was always needed :) | 14:49 |
| mihalis68 | yes. Now that it's going to happen here, I need to meet with my contact and explain what this thing is a bit more | 14:49 |
| * fifieldt tends to agree with dc_mattj | 14:49 | |
| fifieldt | it can be nice to have more than one | 14:49 |
| mihalis68 | the same lady went with us to Vancouver last year and I'd say we didn't quite calibrate it right | 14:49 |
| fifieldt | I guess the first question is, would those folks have an issue sharing some of the glory? | 14:50 |
| fifieldt | for example, if someone else was to pay for the afternoon beers | 14:50 |
| fifieldt | or, say, an evening event? | 14:50 |
| mihalis68 | I'll have to take these questions one-by-one to my contact | 14:50 |
| dc_mattj | don't forget the morning beers | 14:51 |
| fifieldt | np :) | 14:51 |
| fifieldt | haha :) | 14:51 |
| fifieldt | _` | 14:51 |
| fifieldt | _12 | 14:51 |
| fifieldt | _1 | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | I don't think there's any suggestion that Bloomberg would feel it owned evening events | 14:51 |
| fifieldt | but sometimes brands are touchy about being on the same sign as other brands | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | I think there's a decent level of understanding already. I'll meet with her when she's next in the office | 14:51 |
| fifieldt | cheers! | 14:51 |
| fifieldt | anyway, the sooner we resolve this, the sooner we can start singing praises | 14:52 |
| mihalis68 | Bloomberg isn't really competing with anyone that I know of in the openstack community | 14:52 |
| mihalis68 | unless Reuters is doing openstack? | 14:52 |
| dc_mattj | there are other costs too : badges, signage, schedule printing etc. | 14:52 |
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| mihalis68 | understood. | 14:52 |
| fifieldt | I believe ideally we would have an open call for these additional underwriters | 14:52 |
| fifieldt | we have but 7 minutes left in this meeting though | 14:53 |
| dc_mattj | +1 - and see who comes out of the woodwork | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | so, let's hold off on registration for another week to firm some of these things up? | 14:53 |
| mihalis68 | put me down to get answers on co-sponsors for the event, for evening dos, handling of badge, signage timetable printing etc | 14:53 |
| jproulx | fifieldt visa issues have been brougt up | 14:53 |
| shintaro | would the cap be 200 this time? | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | #action mihalis68 to get answers on co-sponsors for the event, for evening dos, handling of badge, signage timetable printing etc | 14:54 |
| serverascode | (I just remembered openstack east) | 14:54 |
| fifieldt | jproulx, indeed - but we can announce the date and location | 14:54 |
| fifieldt | serverascode, good point | 14:54 |
| jproulx | anyone know if that's sufficient? I've never done a US visa :) | 14:54 |
| dc_mattj | I have to drop out now, got another meeting. Speak to you soon | 14:54 |
| fifieldt | thanks so much dc_mattj | 14:54 |
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| fifieldt | jproulx: depends a bit on the country | 14:54 |
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| fifieldt | for electronic visa, it's OK for hotel and flight dates | 14:55 |
| fifieldt | ok, so shintaro has also very intelligently mentioned the cap | 14:55 |
| mihalis68 | I'll dig up the numbers, I don't the venue will quite stretch to 200 | 14:55 |
| fifieldt | the largest number I saw for the main space on the civic hall website was 180 | 14:55 |
| shintaro | capacity is 180 and with 15% of no-show,,, maybe 200? | 14:55 |
| mihalis68 | I will get max numbers and share on mailing list, since this meeting is almost done | 14:55 |
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| fifieldt | shintaro: that sounds right | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | over-commit on attendees? | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | how very virtual | 14:56 |
| fifieldt | :D:D | 14:56 |
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| fifieldt | I will go back and check the noshow data to get an exact number from MAN | 14:56 |
| fifieldt | #action fifieldt to check the MAN ops meet noshow % | 14:56 |
| fifieldt | Would anyone like to announce the results of this meeting's venue selection? | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | going to NYC is going to be a real financial commitment, so I am on the side of wanting to be conservative on attendee overcommit | 14:57 |
| fifieldt | absolutely mihalis68 | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | I do NOT want to do that, it's unseemly | 14:57 |
| jproulx | I can take that if no other hands are up | 14:58 |
| jproulx | (announce location) | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | that would be great jproulx | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | or someone tap dc_mattj on the shoulder and say "your poll you call it!" | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | #action jproulx announce location and date | 14:58 |
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| mihalis68 | that's fine by me | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | jproulx is East Coast Represent | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | 2 minutes to go folks | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | this was a flurry of itensity | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | any closing remarks? | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | where did 1 hour go? :) | 14:59 |
| mrhillsman | i have to run :) | 14:59 |
| fifieldt | thank you mrhillsman | 14:59 |
| mrhillsman | great stuff everyine | 14:59 |
| fifieldt | _` | 14:59 |
| fifieldt | _1 | 14:59 |
| * VW is still jetlagged, so he's losing hours all over the place, mihalis68 | 14:59 | |
| VW | but this was great stuff | 14:59 |
| fifieldt | Tue Jun 21 22:59:59 CST 2016 | 14:59 |
| fifieldt | it's over :) | 14:59 |
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| fifieldt | See you next week | 15:00 |
| shintaro | thanks | 15:00 |
| fifieldt | and many, many thanks | 15:00 |
| VW | night, fifieldt! | 15:00 |
| fifieldt | you're all legends | 15:00 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 15:00 |
| serverascode | ttfn :) | 15:00 |
| jproulx | great work all | 15:00 |
| fifieldt | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 21 15:00:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-06-21-14.02.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-06-21-14.02.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-06-21-14.02.log.html | 15:00 |
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| clayton | looked good to me | 17:12 |
| clayton | any idea when registration might open? | 17:12 |
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| jproulx | clayton registration will probably open in a week likely to be 20USD just to keep the no show rate down | 17:49 |
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| clayton | sounds good | 18:17 |
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| klindgren_ | so is no one else managing the dns searchdomains in resolv.conf on their openstack vm's? | 18:36 |
| klindgren_ | or is everyone literally asking end users to duplicate that work via config management? | 18:37 |
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| clayton | latter for the most part | 18:58 |
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| clayton | each of our tenants gets their own domain name and I don't think liberty has any way of setting per tenant or per network search domains in liberty | 18:58 |
| clayton | I think that's in mitaka or newton | 18:58 |
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| klindgren_ | its in neither yet | 20:41 |
| klindgren_ | its a spec with some code that hasn't landed for newton yet | 20:41 |
| klindgren_ | per network extra dhcp opts | 20:42 |
| klindgren_ | under neutron - but still nova will need something for the config drive piece to grab that | 20:42 |
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| clayton | in one of the two you can set a per network domain name, I assumed that would propagate to dnsmasq | 21:48 |
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