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| mfisch | morning, does anyone have a liberty install of heat and could run a quick command for me? | 15:08 |
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| mfisch | mdorman: maybe you ^ or jlk ^ | 15:10 |
| mfisch | oh wait jlk skipped L right? | 15:10 |
| mfisch | I just need to see this on a L version of heat | 15:10 |
| mfisch | heat resource-type-list | wc -l | 15:10 |
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| mrhillsman | /window down | 15:53 |
| mrhillsman | my bad | 15:56 |
| mrhillsman | mfisch 99 | 15:56 |
| jlk | mfisch: we skipped liberty, on Mitaka now | 15:57 |
| mrhillsman | heat --version ( 0.8.0 ) | 15:57 |
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| mfisch | thanks | 16:14 |
| mfisch | thats about what I have for M | 16:14 |
| mfisch | was trying to figure out why the call got so much slower in M | 16:15 |
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| klindgren_ | has anyone managed to get under liberty the MTU of the virtual switches increased? IE the br-int, the linux birdge and the tap device for the vm? | 16:25 |
| klindgren_ | I see patches for making this work on linux bridge - but I can't seem to get this figured out under OVS | 16:26 |
| klindgren_ | and I pretty much changed every value I could find | 16:27 |
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| klindgren_ | ugh finally got it figured out | 16:48 |
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| dewanee | klindgren_, what have you found on the MTU setting? I was thinking of tinkering with that as well | 18:36 |
| klindgren_ | https://chruz.wordpress.com/2015/10/09/configuring-openstack-to-use-jumbo-frames-mtu-9000/ | 18:36 |
| klindgren_ | do what that guy says - all is well :-D | 18:36 |
| klindgren_ | their was a change with linux birdge | 18:37 |
| klindgren_ | that the tap device being plugged matches the physnet MTU | 18:37 |
| klindgren_ | which landed in liberty | 18:37 |
| klindgren_ | IE if you have eth1 set to 1500, the tap device will also be created at 1500 | 18:37 |
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| klindgren_ | for me on the HV's the key values were the network_device_mtu | 18:38 |
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| dewanee | mmh I have 9000 on the VMs network | 18:52 |
| dewanee | but the tap device is 1500 | 18:53 |
| klindgren_ | yea | 18:53 |
| dewanee | VMs network iface I mean | 18:53 |
| klindgren_ | 99% sure that unless the virtual path is 9k - you wont be able to pass 9k mtu's | 18:53 |
| dewanee | that I'll check for sure. thanks | 18:54 |
| klindgren_ | at least the physical interface and the veth's/linuxbridge/tap if using ovs with security groups | 18:54 |
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| openfly | so, i know some of you guys use stuff like dh-virtualenv or an rpm equivalent ( i am using rpm ). I am curious how folks instantiate the venvs at execution time. I am considering whether i want to do a dynamically generated wrapper embedded in the rpm at build time... or to have an import that just dynamically instantiates the venv based off my build framework... and put that as a global python dependency rpm. | 19:38 |
| openfly | or is there some better way | 19:38 |
| openfly | that isn't the absurd overhead of docker | 19:38 |
| klindgren_ | So when I did this I had to do it to not only do the venv but also doing software collections to enable python 2.7 | 19:46 |
| klindgren_ | we used a tool called anvil to build our venv's - from there I modified the rpm's that we normally built to package the venv as the python-<service> piece so that our puppet configuration stuff worked | 19:47 |
| klindgren_ | we had to do some things around root wrap or any python process that calls to another python process - as it calls from a non-activate venv | 19:47 |
| openfly | yeah i could see that | 19:47 |
| openfly | i have the rpms and they push out the venv well | 19:48 |
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| openfly | at least so far as i've found in testing. | 19:48 |
| openfly | but the instantiation is kind of a question mark atm | 19:49 |
| klindgren_ | https://github.com/krislindgren/openstack-venv-cent6/tree/master/rpm | 19:49 |
| klindgren_ | specifically for starting: https://github.com/krislindgren/openstack-venv-cent6/blob/master/rpm/nova/SOURCES/openstack-nova-api.init | 19:49 |
| klindgren_ | this was cent6 obviously - if now I would be using systemd but we dont need that anymore and we are going to be moving to kolla | 19:50 |
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| openfly | yeah | 19:50 |
| openfly | if i go the wrapper route this is useful as a premise | 19:51 |
| klindgren_ | https://github.com/krislindgren/openstack-venv-cent6/blob/master/rpm/nova/SOURCES/nova-rootwrap | 19:51 |
| openfly | which is tempting | 19:51 |
| klindgren_ | iirc we moved the original rootwrap inside the spec as a install/post install piece | 19:51 |
| openfly | but i am for unknown reasons preferential to an import autoexecuting module i can just inject... | 19:51 |
| openfly | not sure why I think that's good. | 19:51 |
| klindgren_ | but yea - thats what we hacked up at GoDaddy for our cent6 stuff | 19:52 |
| openfly | glad to see it's not just me who likes this approach | 19:52 |
| klindgren_ | we shared it with CERN and iirc they are using some very similar stuff | 19:52 |
| openfly | i know the bluebox guys did something similar | 19:52 |
| openfly | as did spotify ( not openstack ) | 19:52 |
| openfly | yeah | 19:52 |
| klindgren_ | eh - not really super happy with the approach tbh | 19:52 |
| openfly | why? | 19:52 |
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| klindgren_ | creating relocatable venv's is not really supported | 19:53 |
| openfly | yeah but what is supported is horribly broken | 19:53 |
| klindgren_ | venv support in general leave a lot to be desired | 19:53 |
| openfly | way i see it is, otherwise you are stuck in a docker | 19:53 |
| openfly | and for a lot of apps ( maybe not openstack ) this is overkill | 19:53 |
| klindgren_ | not really convinced docker has all that much overhead? | 19:54 |
| klindgren_ | since its bascially jsut running stuff in a namespace | 19:54 |
| openfly | i mean if it's just like a simple utility script, i'd not want to tangle with docker | 19:54 |
| openfly | for openstack i'd do it | 19:54 |
| openfly | like if you need s3 temporarily to push a diagnostic dump... i'd want a venv | 19:54 |
| klindgren_ | that and with the kolla project - seems like a pretty good path forward (or could be made a pretty good path forward) - without having to re-invent everything from scratch | 19:55 |
| openfly | but if you have like a suite of interdependent services ( openstack ) yeah... docker starts to make more sense | 19:55 |
| openfly | not too familiar with kolla | 19:55 |
| openfly | reading ... yeah for openstack services that could work | 19:55 |
| openfly | but for singleton utility apps ... probably not | 19:56 |
| openfly | it's a question of balancing complexity i think | 19:56 |
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| zioproto | hello there. Is anyone applying for visa to go to the US for the NYC ops midcycle? There is a form 'US point of contact information' and they want some info about the Organization Name that is organizing the conference. Where I can find such infos about the Openstack foundation ??? | 19:57 |
| openfly | hrmm the summit used to have a page / email for that | 19:58 |
| openfly | cannot recall it off hand but you might search the mailing list | 19:58 |
| zioproto | openfly: yes I guess so, but for the ops midcycle there is just a etherpad, I am not even sure it is officially organized but the foundation | 19:58 |
| zioproto | s/but/by | 19:59 |
| zioproto | is anyone here applying for visa to come ? | 19:59 |
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| openfly | there's another event in NYC on the same week | 20:00 |
| openfly | openstack east | 20:00 |
| openfly | and that's foundation sponsored | 20:00 |
| openfly | so you could probably use that info | 20:00 |
| openfly | as well | 20:00 |
| zioproto | perfect, I just bought the ticket this morning for early bird | 20:00 |
| zioproto | I did not think I could do that | 20:01 |
| zioproto | austin had this page: https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/visa_form_austin_summit | 20:01 |
| zioproto | openfly: thanks for the hint | 20:01 |
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