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| bmwiedemann | Hi, what is the easiest way to create a tenant/project with a certain project-id ? (would like to have that to make migration from another cloud easier) or could I just dump+import the appropriate table from the keystone DB? | 11:31 |
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| med_ | \o | 14:02 |
| med_ | crickets | 14:03 |
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| med_ | I show a meeting in this channel now per tom email but it seems pretty vacant. | 14:04 |
| med_ | clayton, concur? | 14:04 |
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| med_ | apparently not | 14:05 |
| clayton | I had it on my calendar for now | 14:09 |
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| bmwiedemann | these openstack channels seem pretty sleepy ;-) | 14:16 |
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| bmwiedemann | but now I got a simple question: if you are an openstack-operator, how big is your cloud? Mine is 10 nodes with ~700 MB RAM and 120 cores total. | 14:18 |
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| bmwiedemann | err. meant 700GB RAM | 14:31 |
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| haukebruno | bmwiedemann, currently our 2 plattforms are smaller than 10 compute nodes, but we ran one last year with 65 compute nodes | 16:16 |
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| Andhra_Guy | having issues ipv6 network in liberty | 19:04 |
| Andhra_Guy | created ipv6 subnet with DHCPv6 stateful mode but instances not getting ipv6 address only link local address | 19:05 |
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| klindgren | wow - think I just solved a long running performance issue that we were seeing where eventually we got into a state where requests to keyston/neutron were getting hammered against a single server. | 21:23 |
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| klindgren | inside haproxy configured neutron/keystone for option forceclose (also enabled tw_reuse) | 21:24 |
| klindgren | before we were getting "runs" against servers where it would recieve a request for 20 seconds, then get 30-40 in a second | 21:25 |
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| klindgren | requests weren't being balanced across all the servers effectively. I think this is mainly from http keepalive and eventlet pooling and requests not being balanced well inside eventlet | 21:28 |
| klindgren | so sessions were being kept open for upwards of 200 seconds before being reusued | 21:28 |
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| jlk | Okay, wtf is Senlin, and why is it different from Heat? | 22:38 |
| jlk | klindgren: interesting! | 22:38 |
| jlk | klindgren: are you running keystone in eventlet still? | 22:38 |
| klindgren | nope keystone is in uwsgi | 22:39 |
| klindgren | but the eventlet stuff I believe is coming from nova | 22:40 |
| jlk | so are you setting that globally then? | 22:40 |
| klindgren | IE nova using some of the client stuff to talk to other services - IE keystone_middleware or nova -> neutron api for port info | 22:40 |
| klindgren | so far just in haproxy in front of the servcies | 22:41 |
| klindgren | letting it bake for a while before rolling everywhere | 22:41 |
| klindgren | Our setup is Real LB -> haproxy on the api servers (terminates ssl) -> uwsgi|eventlet service | 22:42 |
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| dmsimard | jlk: re selin: I don't have an answer for you but you made me choke on my drink. | 22:42 |
| klindgren | keystone and nova are uwsgi - neutron is still eventlet | 22:42 |
| jlk | dmsimard: it appears to have been created to provide autoscaling features, but HEAT now does autoscaling, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 22:43 |
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| dmsimard | jlk: I think it's a legit question | 22:44 |
| jlk | the repo is still getting commits, so somebody thinks it's useful | 22:44 |
| klindgren | does heat *really* do autoscaling?) | 22:44 |
| dmsimard | klindgren: yeah, it requires ceilometer/gnocchi/alarming | 22:44 |
| dmsimard | basically you can tell it to spawn other things when cpu usage is too high or things like that | 22:45 |
| klindgren | so... the answer is no then :D | 22:45 |
| jlk | klindgren: okay. We're using haproxy as our LB, fronting all the services. Keystone is behind apache and uwsgi, the rest eventlet | 22:45 |
| jlk | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup | 22:45 |
| jlk | so you can do autoscaling, with ceilometer (and now aodh) alarming, and even use lbaasv2 | 22:45 |
| dmsimard | klindgren: don't shoot the messenger, I hate heat :) | 22:45 |
| jlk | one of our partners landed on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/AutoScaling and started asking why we don't support Senlin for autoscale. | 22:46 |
| klindgren | jlk - yea basically when I was watching the logs, I would see a server getting a bunch of requets, then nothing for a while (10 seconds to a few minutes) then getting slammed with requests) - bascially the load was very bursty and not spread out at all | 22:46 |
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| klindgren | also TQ time was in the 10ms-300000ms | 22:47 |
| klindgren | depending on how long it had been doing a keepalive and the last time it was used | 22:47 |
| klindgren | now they TQ time is all in the 10-200ms range | 22:48 |
| jlk | no noticeable ill effect from force close? | 22:48 |
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| klindgren | not yet | 23:07 |
| klindgren | we also enabled tw_re-use | 23:08 |
| klindgren | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.service/blob/master/oslo_service/_options.py#L81 | 23:08 |
| klindgren | we think might be the thing thats causing it | 23:08 |
| klindgren | it was allegedly fixed, but apparently fix was - add doc notes - keep default the same | 23:08 |
| klindgren | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1361360 | 23:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1361360 in neutron juno "Eventlet green threads not released back to the pool leading to choking of new requests" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 23:09 |
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| harlowja | i know klindgren ! | 23:10 |
| harlowja | lol | 23:10 |
| klindgren | lol - ha Josh has been helping debug this as well | 23:15 |
| jlk | so we could set wsgi_keep_alive to false across the services and also "fix" this? | 23:15 |
| jlk | and a reasonable timeout | 23:16 |
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