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| cristicalin | has anybody seen an issue with restarting neutron-ovs-agent and the agent forgetting to install some security groups ? | 08:53 |
| cristicalin | the keyword being "some' | 08:54 |
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| pilgrimstack | hi | 10:19 |
| pilgrimstack | Do you know if their is a reason why it's impossible to create a instance linked on a net with no subnet? | 10:20 |
| pilgrimstack | Creating a port on a net with no subnet is possible. | 10:21 |
| pilgrimstack | "It's a feature" ? | 10:21 |
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| mrhillsman | g'morning | 13:18 |
| serverascode | howdy | 13:21 |
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| mihalis68 | hello everyone | 13:59 |
| shintaro | hi | 13:59 |
| mihalis68 | Let me see if I can do this right... | 14:00 |
| mihalis68 | #startmeeting Ops Meetup Team | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 16 14:00:44 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 14:00 |
| mihalis68 | I should have sent out a reminder I guess | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | I just did a "this meeting starts now email" | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | #topic NYC itinerary | 14:01 |
| shintaro | great! | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | There are two items to be added to the itinerary and then I think we should call it done | 14:01 |
| serverascode | morning | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | did you see what they are on the email list? Openstack UX team wishes to do two sessions | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | I can cut and paste the details here if that would | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | help | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | morning serverascode | 14:02 |
| shintaro | mihalis68: yes please | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | OS UX proposals https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/JrKCiTie/OSUX | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | Melvin fwded it and he thinks working group | 14:03 |
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| mihalis68 | I wasn't sure if they'd be best as working groups or general sessions | 14:03 |
| mrhillsman | silly rain | 14:04 |
| mrhillsman | i'm here | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | unless there are any differing opinions, I can put them as WG8 and then WG 9 on day 1 i.e.15:20 - 16:00 and then16:00-16:40 | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | hello | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | in those slots these OS UX working groups would be alongside Large Deployment general sessions | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | thoughts? | 14:05 |
| mrhillsman | sounds good | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | people who just joined should I summarize? | 14:05 |
| mrhillsman | i was not sure if they needed the entire time | 14:05 |
| mrhillsman | of two sessions | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | If we put them sequentially I guess they could get it done and come over to large deployments or go for a break | 14:06 |
| mrhillsman | but if we do not have anything else to fill in | 14:06 |
| mrhillsman | true | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | yeah I am not really sure how much work these are | 14:06 |
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| mihalis68 | ok, in the absence of alternative suggestions, let me throw them up there right now | 14:07 |
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| mrhillsman | ok | 14:07 |
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| mihalis68 | hello | 14:07 |
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| VW | sorry I'm late, folks - trafficy things | 14:07 |
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| mihalis68 | no worries. I don't think this meeting will be overstuffed with content | 14:08 |
| mrhillsman | morning VW | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | current topic is NYC itinerary. I jhave just added openstack UX team working groups on day 1 WG 8 WG9 | 14:08 |
| VW | morning, folks | 14:08 |
| VW | cool - let me look it over | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | morning! | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | the content of those was pastebinned above | 14:09 |
| VW | looks good | 14:09 |
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| mihalis68 | Does anyone want to add anything more to the itinerary or move anything around? If not i should get the final version fwded to our mailing list for final comment and say that I'll ask the people who will make a prettified version to work on it at end of day EST | 14:10 |
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| mihalis68 | (our event organizer is having the bloomberg designers do a nice itinerary handout) | 14:10 |
| mrhillsman | looks good to me | 14:10 |
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| shintaro | so what comes in to WG6 session? if not should we move craton session to WG6? | 14:11 |
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| mihalis68 | It was proposed as a working group, which is why I put it in a smaller room, however I have absolutely no objection | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | yes? anyone have thoughts | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | (not personaly familiar with that project) | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | ok done. | 14:12 |
| shintaro | well me neither, but that's the only session so everyone would attend | 14:12 |
| mrhillsman | quick on the trigger | 14:13 |
| mihalis68 | It can be undone just as quick | 14:13 |
| mrhillsman | hehe indeed | 14:13 |
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| mihalis68 | This reminds me. "Handling individual hypervisor failures with shared storge" is in orange because it seemed very very specific | 14:13 |
| mihalis68 | orange from Tom meaning "hmmm, not sure about this one" | 14:13 |
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| VW | I'm good with the move | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | Looking at that part of the day, I see that feedback on submitting feature requests is alongside nova/sean dague | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | I wonder if a session with a guest speaker might outrank the feedback session? | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | swap them? | 14:15 |
| VW | for sure | 14:15 |
| VW | give sean the bigger space | 14:15 |
| shintaro | good idea! | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | done | 14:16 |
| VW | boom! | 14:16 |
| mihalis68 | I will leave handling hypervisors failures for now then | 14:16 |
| mrhillsman | we still did not get any response regarding the evening event | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | Ok. We may have an itinerary that will pass muster. | 14:17 |
| serverascode | good choice on bigger room | 14:17 |
| mrhillsman | any thoughts? | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | No. We (Bloomberg) are avoiding that, since we sponsor the day event, food etc, so I'm letting that fester | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | if nothing happens, there are three good suggestions on the etherhpad for places to go | 14:18 |
| mrhillsman | sure i was not expecting and hope no one else was expecting bloomberg to do more | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | and I would think if a sponsor or two steps up we will be able to get an upstairs room at a bar | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | yeah, it's just that I am trying to get everything else tidy, but not that evening :) | 14:19 |
| mrhillsman | sounds good | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | mrhillsman I don't recall if you were on just now when we "landed" openstack UX team. They are on day 1 sequentially now. | 14:19 |
| mrhillsman | yep | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | ok good | 14:20 |
| mrhillsman | got the doc up as well | 14:20 |
| mrhillsman | i see you box hoppin lol | 14:20 |
| mihalis68 | shall I fw the itinerary in this state to the mailing list today for final comment? | 14:20 |
| VW | I would say yes, mihalis68 | 14:20 |
| mrhillsman | ^ | 14:20 |
| mihalis68 | ok. then I think that topic is done. The next one is ... moderators? | 14:20 |
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| mihalis68 | I recall tom saying that was the fun next stage | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | how do we get those? | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | arm-twistig? :) | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | #topic moderators | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | we need them for general sessions, right? | 14:21 |
| mrhillsman | i thought we had a list too? | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | yeah I am just trying to find it | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | help! | 14:22 |
| mrhillsman | yeah - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NYC-ops-meetup | 14:23 |
| mrhillsman | near the bottom | 14:23 |
| serverascode | yeah it would just be the general sessions that need moderators afaik | 14:23 |
| VW | we have a reasonable list | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | nobody volunteered for containerizing the control plane | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | at least not specifically | 14:24 |
| mrhillsman | know who suggested it? | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | it is a topic we are interested, but our progress there is "gee, that sounds real great" | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | did you mrhillsman? If i can parse the color-coding it looks like you might have | 14:26 |
| mrhillsman | lol i did not | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | I am filling in the meeting notes on the team ehterpad now | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | that's another duty for the tom stand-in :0 | 14:27 |
| mrhillsman | this would be my first time moderating so i would yield to someone more experienced | 14:27 |
| mrhillsman | especially with it being the first session | 14:27 |
| shintaro | it says "Jill Rouleau" from canonical on the spread sheet | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | you can put yourself on the attendees list at least : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:28 |
| mrhillsman | aha, yeah, already someone there | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | Not trying to volunteer you mrhillsman, I would think someone who has done this should lead it | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | it is a critical session. Tom said he would be stand-in moderator, should we volunteer him in his absence? It seems harsh, but I could email him that we want a good moderator for session 1 and can he find one if he doesn't want to do it | 14:29 |
| openfly | honestly i moderated something in vancouver... it's pretty easy we're very self organizing | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | I have a feeling this one will be relatively more challenging as its such a hot topic and people have very strong opinions | 14:30 |
| serverascode | like shintaro said I'm guessing tom maybe already put someone beside it... | 14:30 |
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| mrhillsman | mihalis68 there is someone listed on the spreadsheet to moderate as shintaro mentioned | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | oh, sorry, my eyes skipped that | 14:30 |
| zioproto | hello, sorry I am late | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | no problemo | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | thanks for the correction folks, containerizing the control plane does have a moderator | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | and it's a canonical person, so probably not a pro-kubernetes voice! :) | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | (correct me if I'm wrong, but their containerization is LXD/ZFS based and ubuntu-specific) | 14:32 |
| VW | I'd say that's a fair assumption | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | Ok. General sessions lacking moderators : Ceph, Pain points, scalabiity | 14:33 |
| clayton | probably a more people interested in k8s than LXD/ZFS, if I had to choose | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | mihalis68 you are right | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | is the moderator choice "wrong"? | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | is that even a thing? | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | i do not think so | 14:33 |
| clayton | only if the are pushing an agenda. | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | you probably want someone with knowledge to ... ^ | 14:33 |
| clayton | the=they | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | I don't know Jill, but it will be unpopular if session 1 turns out to be a vendor promo | 14:34 |
| mrhillsman | i mean not push their own agenda | 14:34 |
| serverascode | might just want to check with tom on his thoughts for the containers one and move on | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | ok | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to check with fiefieldt_ on moderator for session 1 | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | I saw canonicals containerization thing in Austin. Dustin Kirkland did it, it was super-nice, but entirely within an ubuntu bubble | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | we run on ubuntu and it was still too rarefied even for us | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | moving on. Moderator for Ceph? | 14:35 |
| serverascode | are there ppl from walmart coming? if so they have a big ceph deployment I believe | 14:36 |
| clayton | they are | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | I could check with Warren Wang if he will moderate | 14:37 |
| clayton | comcast and twc will be there also | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | I know Warren and he's great | 14:37 |
| clayton | yeap | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to see if Warren Wang can be persuaded to moderate the Ceph general session | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | moderator for "pain points"? | 14:38 |
| VW | I can if we don't have anyone | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | There are several volunteers for "anything" on the etherpad | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | but if you are volunteering, then I'll take it! | 14:39 |
| openfly | =D | 14:39 |
| mihalis68 | is there a hashtag for a meeting decision? | 14:39 |
| VW | we might want to ping one or two of them | 14:39 |
| VW | to open up participation to more | 14:39 |
| VW | but I'm happy either way | 14:39 |
| serverascode | the pain points is put in with upgrades in the schedule if I'm correct | 14:39 |
| mihalis68 | Can I just give you an action to list yourself as that moderator unless you find someone keener? | 14:39 |
| VW | sure | 14:39 |
| serverascode | oops, nope they are separated out my bad | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | #action VW to sign up as moderator of "pain points" or find a volunteer | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | moderator for scalability? | 14:41 |
| mihalis68 | btw I just spotted Saverio said he could moderate Ceph too. I will try for warren and if not see if saverio will do it | 14:42 |
| zioproto | I can do it | 14:42 |
| mihalis68 | oh there you are! | 14:42 |
| zioproto | here Saverio | 14:42 |
| mihalis68 | yeah! | 14:42 |
| zioproto | yes I can moderate the upgrade pain points | 14:42 |
| zioproto | or I can moderate the ceph session | 14:42 |
| zioproto | both are fine to me | 14:42 |
| mihalis68 | how much ceph do you do? | 14:43 |
| zioproto | We have two clusters, the bigger with 320 OSDs | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | I mean we run a bunch, but I'd still rather have warren moderate than me for example, his ceph knowledge is spectacular | 14:43 |
| zioproto | we use mainly rbd | 14:43 |
| zioproto | well, we use it in our openstack installations | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | yes, us too | 14:44 |
| zioproto | I also wrote patches for the cinder rbd driver, I am quite confident with the topic | 14:44 |
| serverascode | also moderating isn't so much a question of knowledge of the area :) | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | Ok then it is probably best you take ceph after all, then I don't need to bother warren. I'm sure he'll speak up if he makes it :) | 14:44 |
| zioproto | ok | 14:44 |
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| zioproto | my colleague Simon moderated the Ceph session in Manchester | 14:44 |
| zioproto | and I was there | 14:45 |
| zioproto | so I have an idea about the moderation | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | that is true, it doesn't need encyclopedic mastery | 14:45 |
| zioproto | I think I can do it | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | yeah, you got it! | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | Craton got made a general session earlier | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | moderator for that? | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | 15 minutes left | 14:45 |
| serverascode | probably whoever suggested it as a session, should track them down | 14:46 |
| serverascode | I can take that as an action item | 14:46 |
| mihalis68 | thanks | 14:47 |
| VW | I think some of our folks working on craton are coming | 14:47 |
| VW | O | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | #action serverascode to drum up a moderator for the general session on Craton | 14:47 |
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| serverascode | VW ok, perhaps the wrong person has the action now :) | 14:48 |
| VW | yeah - let me ping them | 14:48 |
| mihalis68 | documentation general session has no moderator but Matt Kasawara volunteered to moderate documentation | 14:48 |
| mihalis68 | i assume he is not on this chat right now? | 14:49 |
| mihalis68 | no. Ok #action mihalis68 to contact matt kasawara to see if we can take him up on the offer to moderate documentation | 14:49 |
| mihalis68 | Logging and monitoring has no moderator | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | mrhillsman you mention monitoring as things you could do, but you are listed as moderating a couple already | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | is there a volunteer to moderate logging and monitoring? | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | no. | 14:52 |
| mihalis68 | ok. Will need to work on that, it's a big one | 14:52 |
| mihalis68 | also I see now that config management also lacks a moderator | 14:53 |
| mihalis68 | we've spent quite a lot of this meeting on moderators, maybe move on? | 14:53 |
| VW | yeah | 14:53 |
| serverascode | is there a config mgmt session? | 14:53 |
| VW | we have one more to hail mary any remaining slots | 14:53 |
| mihalis68 | yes, day 2, sesson 1 | 14:53 |
| serverascode | ah ok | 14:54 |
| mihalis68 | Tom wryly put it there, even though at -1, since he predicted some people could be turning up late on day 2 | 14:54 |
| serverascode | lol | 14:54 |
| mihalis68 | thinking that perhaps they might have a late night, day 1 | 14:54 |
| mihalis68 | #topic review of last meeting actions | 14:55 |
| mihalis68 | I was supposed to start an ether pad saying how this process works, for all those people who will do this in future and who are not Tom himseld | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | I haven't done that yet but will do that this week | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | aprice is due to send a registration reminder email | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | looks like that hasn't happened yet | 14:57 |
| VW | and I'm not done with reaching out to all the team leaders, but should finish this week | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | fiefieldt_ was due to talk to sean dague about nova, he did and sean is confirmed | 14:57 |
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| mihalis68 | #info two minutes left | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | what else do we need to discuss (even if briefly!) | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | I don't think we can get into barcelona this time, right? | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | I take that as a yes we can't | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | 1 minute | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | any more for any more? | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | I want to thank everyone for helping me run one of these for the first time | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | and if I fail in some of the duties please do let me know - mihalis68@gmail.com | 15:00 |
| mihalis68 | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 16 15:00:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2016/ops_meetup_team.2016-08-16-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2016/ops_meetup_team.2016-08-16-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2016/ops_meetup_team.2016-08-16-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| shintaro | thanks mihalis68 | 15:00 |
| zioproto | thanks for all mihalis68 | 15:00 |
| mihalis68 | most welcome | 15:00 |
| VW | thanks mihalis68 | 15:00 |
| VW | take care, all | 15:00 |
| serverascode | thanks mihlis68 :) | 15:00 |
| zioproto | and see you guys in NYC next week | 15:00 |
| mihalis68 | yesh! | 15:00 |
| mihalis68 | oh meet next week here same time same place? | 15:01 |
| zioproto | I will be at the openstack east at this time next tuesday | 15:01 |
| mihalis68 | good point | 15:01 |
| mihalis68 | we'll wing it | 15:01 |
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| mrhillsman | sorry had to step away | 15:10 |
| mrhillsman | i'll be at openstack east as well | 15:11 |
| mrhillsman | will try to make myself available | 15:11 |
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