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| maishsk | Does someone know of a what to export all security groups - AND their rules to a CSV ? | 02:42 |
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| admin0 | in vxlan, is it one vtep per compute node, or multiple vtep per vxlan ? | 09:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed openstack/osops-tools-monitoring: Improve README file for monitoring-for-openstack https://review.openstack.org/377638 | 12:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed openstack/osops-tools-monitoring: Fix permissons for some files of monitoring-for-openstack https://review.openstack.org/377641 | 12:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed openstack/osops-tools-monitoring: Remove "encoding: utf-8" from monitoring-for-openstack files https://review.openstack.org/377642 | 12:05 |
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| fifieldt | こんばんは。 | 13:57 |
| shintaro | wow こんばんは | 13:57 |
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| fifieldt | げんきですか？ | 13:58 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 13:58 |
| serverascode | howdy | 13:58 |
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| fifieldt | hi and hi | 13:59 |
| shintaro | o/ | 13:59 |
| dc_mattj | hello | 13:59 |
| fifieldt | getting the band back together :) | 13:59 |
| zioproto | hello all | 13:59 |
| fifieldt | #startmeeting Ops Meetups Team | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 27 14:00:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is fifieldt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetups_team' | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | Hello all, and welcome to the Ops Meetups Team meeting :) | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | NB: If you're new, or just idling in the channel, be sure to have read: | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ops_Meetups_Team | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | # link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | for background. | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | Check out our agenda items at: | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | As always: please write your name down on the agenda etherpad as a way of introduction, since we're a new crew. | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | Secondly, if there's something else burning to put on the agenda, please add it to that same etherpad. | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | Is VW around? | 14:01 |
| VW | he is | 14:01 |
| VW | and bad at watching clocks | 14:01 |
| VW | :D | 14:01 |
| VW | hola | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | I saw some work being done in the BCN spreqadsheet, may that have been you? | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | also: hi :) | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | #topic Check progress on etherpad - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-ops-meetup | 14:02 |
| VW | no, I haven't done a lot, let me look | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | anyway, how is BCN agenda brainstorming going? | 14:02 |
| fifieldt | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-ops-meetup | 14:02 |
| shintaro | I did add proposed items to docs from etherpad | 14:03 |
| fifieldt | ah, it was you shintaro | 14:03 |
| fifieldt | thank you so much! | 14:03 |
| fifieldt | so, from the organisation aspect | 14:04 |
| fifieldt | we're basically out of time to continyue agenda brainstorming | 14:04 |
| fifieldt | we need to make an agenda ASAP | 14:04 |
| zioproto | I added my self as moderator volunteer as usual | 14:04 |
| fifieldt | the next step was as shintaro has done - take the etherpad and then make a list of the sessions that have been proposed | 14:04 |
| fifieldt | we then select the sessions | 14:04 |
| fifieldt | and allocate them to the schedule | 14:04 |
| shintaro | I saw some items proposed to general session could be working session, like Telecom/NFV | 14:04 |
| VW | sounds good | 14:05 |
| fifieldt | right - it seems (like as ususal) people have just listed everything undert the one heading | 14:05 |
| VW | got a lot more etherpad input than I expected | 14:05 |
| fifieldt | mihalis68 has some expertised on this agenda wrangling | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | I do? | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | :) | 14:05 |
| serverascode | oops my bad, I didn't see the other section | 14:05 |
| serverascode | for NFV | 14:05 |
| dc_mattj | are we doing an intro session in the first slot ? | 14:06 |
| fifieldt | when we did NYC together, basically one person had a go on the agenda ... then a skype call ensues to bash out conflicts and other things | 14:06 |
| fifieldt | dc_mattj also knows this well :) | 14:06 |
| fifieldt | dc_mattj: purely for information - there will be a "Design Summit 101" in the first slot | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | the process is not sophisticated. I found the most +1s and took a stab at which room size | 14:06 |
| zioproto | are we going to edit the google doc now ? | 14:06 |
| fifieldt | in the designs ummit, potentially | 14:06 |
| fifieldt | which is more on the dev side | 14:07 |
| fifieldt | but in the past was used for "both" | 14:07 |
| fifieldt | In the past, we also had a separate 101 for ops and one for dev, on at the same time | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | I can't actually get interactive on google docs here at the office unless I bring in a laptop and get off the corporate network | 14:07 |
| fifieldt | it didn't go down too well | 14:07 |
| dc_mattj | so when you say first slot, you mean the Tue 11.15 - 11.55 ? | 14:07 |
| fifieldt | also for informatioin, If I recall correctly, VW was suggesting we have a slot that is all working group leads to explain their groups | 14:07 |
| dc_mattj | +1 | 14:08 |
| fifieldt | indee dc_mattj 0- the first slopt allocated to ops | 14:08 |
| VW | yes | 14:08 |
| fifieldt | so, thoughts? | 14:08 |
| VW | but I also want to get edgar in here next week | 14:08 |
| VW | there are some "new"/different things going on with the User comittee it sounds like | 14:08 |
| VW | and requires attendance for the WG leads | 14:08 |
| fifieldt | right | 14:09 |
| mperazol | hei - I'm a bit new to this discussion - so, when we say for example we'll have a topic like OpenStack on Containers, does it mean we'll bring folks from the OpenStack-Ansible/Kolla teams to explain what they're doing or are we going to focus on the "Ops" aspect related to this? | 14:09 |
| fifieldt | hi mperazol ! | 14:09 |
| mperazol | hi - newbie, so be patient with my questions :-) | 14:10 |
| fifieldt | very short answer: it depends on the room | 14:10 |
| fifieldt | newbies are awesome! | 14:10 |
| fifieldt | they don't have any bad assumptions :) | 14:10 |
| dc_mattj | mperazol, I hope we'll get some of them anyway, but the session is more general on what's going on in the community | 14:10 |
| mperazol | ok. I asked that because my team does have some experience in providing Ops for these topics | 14:10 |
| dc_mattj | so fifieldt is that first session one that can be already allocated ? | 14:10 |
| dc_mattj | ie. to design summit 101 ? | 14:11 |
| dc_mattj | if I've understood you correctly | 14:11 |
| fifieldt | design summit 101 you won't find on our spreadsheet | 14:11 |
| fifieldt | ttx organises that :) | 14:11 |
| fifieldt | but if we want to hold off a first-session slot "just in case" we clear up something and need it | 14:11 |
| fifieldt | we can | 14:11 |
| zioproto | mperazol: if you have experience on a topic you can add yourself at the bottom as a volunteer to moderate the session | 14:12 |
| dc_mattj | right, but are you saying that is at 11.15 ? so we don't want to fill that slot ? | 14:12 |
| dc_mattj | I'm confused ;) | 14:12 |
| fifieldt | excellent mperazol - looking forward to hearing all the things | 14:12 |
| fifieldt | dc_mattj: I am asking for your opinions :) | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | I find this planning the hardest yet | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | we are like a third track at a 2-track conference | 14:12 |
| fifieldt | summits are 3X size mihalis68 :) | 14:12 |
| mperazol | @zioproto: I'll do add some stuff today and see what I could volunteer for | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | +1 to keep first slot open | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | so people can go to ttx's thing, or we can fill in at last minute | 14:13 |
| dc_mattj | zioproto, mperazol I'd say it doesn't particularly matter if you're deep on a topic, it's more about keeping the discussion flowing | 14:13 |
| dc_mattj | +1 mihalis68 | 14:13 |
| mihalis68 | so the next slot should be a popular one... openstack on containers received lots of +1 | 14:13 |
| fifieldt | ok, so of the 11:15 - 11:55 slots ( 7 rooms in all) we will keep one of them open | 14:13 |
| fifieldt | I marked the spreadsheet accordingly | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | let's keep the meeting going | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | BCN session brainstorming to schedule oprocess | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | we need people to do this | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | who's up for it? | 14:14 |
| zioproto | guys can anyone post the link to the spreadsheet ? | 14:14 |
| VW | I am - just got a phone call at the moment | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=803513477 | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=803513477 | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | sorry zioproto ! | 14:14 |
| zioproto | thanks | 14:14 |
| dc_mattj | fifieldt, don't think I have edit rights on the doc | 14:15 |
| fifieldt | preferred gmail account | 14:15 |
| fifieldt | ? | 14:15 |
| dc_mattj | ah sorry, just realised I'm using my other one - yes, the one I'm using right now - therealmattjarvis@gmail.com | 14:15 |
| dc_mattj | I have rights from my dc account | 14:15 |
| fifieldt | ok, so, to claridfy what is going down - we probably need | 14:15 |
| fifieldt | 1) one person to make a first attempt at an agenda | 14:16 |
| fifieldt | 2) one to five people to have a skype call with person from #1 to fix up the proposal | 14:16 |
| fifieldt | 3) one person to email the sample agenda to the ops ML | 14:16 |
| fifieldt | who volunteers for which number? | 14:16 |
| fifieldt | :) | 14:16 |
| dc_mattj | I'm happy to work through a first agenda | 14:16 |
| zioproto | I get number 2 | 14:17 |
| VW | you sure dc_mattj? | 14:17 |
| mperazol | I'd like to attend the call on #2 too if you guys will have me | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | I can join the skype | 14:17 |
| zioproto | my skype nickname is zioproto | 14:17 |
| shintaro | I'm happy to do any | 14:17 |
| VW | put me down for 2 and 3 | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | wow. just like that, a team emerged ! :) | 14:17 |
| fifieldt | #action dc_mattj to make a rapid "first pass" BCN agenda | 14:17 |
| dc_mattj | VW, I'll do first pass | 14:17 |
| VW | sounds good | 14:18 |
| dc_mattj | couple of quick questions though | 14:18 |
| VW | thanks dc_mattj | 14:18 |
| mrhillsman | i can do 2 and/or 3 | 14:18 |
| dc_mattj | we don't currently have any WG's | 14:18 |
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| dc_mattj | I know some of them that have been ops before have sorted themselves out eg. scientific | 14:18 |
| fifieldt | #action zioproto, shintaro, mperazol, mrhillsman, mihalis68 to join a skype with dc_mattj onces rapid "first pass" is done and make fix the agenda to be awesome | 14:18 |
| dc_mattj | but do we have Large Deployments etc. ? | 14:18 |
| VW | they handled that "differently" dc_mattj | 14:19 |
| zioproto | dc_mattj: what is your skype nickname ? | 14:19 |
| VW | and I'm not completely sure they will relate to this schedule | 14:19 |
| dc_mattj | ok, so all the coloured sessions are basically available for general sessions ? | 14:19 |
| fifieldt | #action after the call, someone from that group to immediately email ops ML with draft agenda for feedback | 14:19 |
| fifieldt | on timing | 14:19 |
| fifieldt | it would be great if this could happen this week | 14:19 |
| mrhillsman | fifieldt you forgot VW :) | 14:19 |
| fifieldt | oh, damn | 14:19 |
| dc_mattj | zioproto, mattj-datacentred | 14:19 |
| fifieldt | #action fifieldt to remember VW | 14:19 |
| mrhillsman | lol | 14:20 |
| VW | lol | 14:20 |
| dc_mattj | I can have a rough pass done tomorrow | 14:20 |
| fifieldt | awesome! | 14:20 |
| fifieldt | maybe everyone email dc_mattj with your emails and skype IDs using the address he posted above | 14:20 |
| fifieldt | of IRC message him | 14:20 |
| serverascode | I submitted for some space for the telecom/NFV group but haven't heard back yet, just FYI | 14:20 |
| dc_mattj | fifieldt, on the AUC and UX stuff, do we want to reach out to Piet and Shamail and see if they want to do anything ? | 14:20 |
| fifieldt | dc_mattj: priority is getting what we have suggested written into an schedule first I think | 14:21 |
| fifieldt | I think free slot availabioluty should be easy after that | 14:21 |
| fifieldt | yeah? | 14:21 |
| mperazol | I'm not seeing a topic on availability & health monitoring (e.g. nagios, zabbix, etc. and OS services like Monasca, etc.) - shouldn't we have something along these lines too? I could moderate if you think that's an interesting topic | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | and (as per lessons learned last time) taking those topics and fleshing them out more | 14:21 |
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| dc_mattj | k | 14:21 |
| fifieldt | mperazol: add to the etherpad :) | 14:22 |
| mperazol | ok, doing that now | 14:22 |
| dc_mattj | mperazol, logging and monitoring covers that | 14:22 |
| dc_mattj | always a popular discussion | 14:22 |
| fifieldt | ok, anything more on BCN agenda that we need to cover in this meeting? | 14:22 |
| mperazol | so - add as bullets there? | 14:22 |
| fifieldt | yeah, in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-ops-meetup | 14:23 |
| dc_mattj | mperazol, once we get everything in we'll add new ether pads for each topic, but for now you can add any subbullets to the main one | 14:23 |
| dc_mattj | and we can transfer later | 14:23 |
| fifieldt | shintaro, how are you feeling about the process? anything we've missed? | 14:23 |
| mrhillsman | mperazol that would fall under logging/monitoring | 14:24 |
| shintaro | no, looks good | 14:24 |
| mperazol | ok, add a couple of bullets there | 14:24 |
| zioproto | mperazol: click on the icon with the people on the top right corner of the etherpad and add your nickname, so your contribution can be tracked under your name | 14:24 |
| fifieldt | ok, quickly moving on - feel free to add other agenda items | 14:24 |
| mperazol | ok | 14:24 |
| fifieldt | #topic Confirm if Garbutt and/or others are willing to do a state of Nova | 14:24 |
| dc_mattj | +1 | 14:24 |
| VW | having a hard time getting a hold of him | 14:24 |
| fifieldt | I guess this is related to dc_mattj's question | 14:24 |
| VW | let me try again, now, actually | 14:24 |
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| mrhillsman | mperazol you can add more details under that section | 14:25 |
| fifieldt | it;'s a more general thjing -- once the draft agenda is done, "gaps" might appear | 14:25 |
| mrhillsman | i could ask him right now | 14:25 |
| fifieldt | so we should alwasy keep that in mind | 14:25 |
| mrhillsman | garbutt that is | 14:25 |
| fifieldt | asking as manby developer as you can is a good thing | 14:25 |
| VW | I am mrhillsman | 14:25 |
| mrhillsman | ok cool | 14:25 |
| fifieldt | think of your favourites and ping them | 14:25 |
| mrhillsman | they are in a meeting | 14:25 |
| fifieldt | Is there anyone who wants to talk more about this agenda item? | 14:25 |
| mperazol | configuration management I suppose means ansible, puppet, salt, etc. right? | 14:25 |
| VW | i'm good fifieldt | 14:26 |
| fifieldt | yessir | 14:26 |
| zioproto | mperazol: yes | 14:26 |
| fifieldt | #action VW is pinging tuba | 14:26 |
| fifieldt | #topic Revisit confusion on WGs | 14:26 |
| fifieldt | who wants more confusion? | 14:26 |
| VW | sweet | 14:26 |
| fifieldt | :) | 14:26 |
| * VW is thoroughly confused on this one | 14:27 | |
| mihalis68 | +1 | 14:27 |
| fifieldt | Short: | 14:27 |
| zioproto | and dont know a lot about the Working Groups. What are we talking about ? | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | rename action revisit and lessen confusion on WGs | 14:28 |
| fifieldt | If you are a WG, you have a choice as to whether you're part of the ops meetup or not. | 14:28 |
| fifieldt | if youre an ops focused WGW | 14:28 |
| fifieldt | zioproto: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee#Working_Groups | 14:28 |
| fifieldt | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee#Working_Groups_and_Teams | 14:28 |
| fifieldt | There is a long backstory here | 14:28 |
| fifieldt | if you are interested, feel free to contact me offline :) | 14:28 |
| fifieldt | For the purposes of this group, we just need to wrangle the space we have for the content we have | 14:29 |
| fifieldt | also, our space is nice :) | 14:29 |
| VW | on that note, though, fifieldt - you still want me to get edgar to join here next week? | 14:29 |
| fifieldt | edgar being here is always a good idea :D | 14:30 |
| fifieldt | Also, this confusion won't exist in Boston :) | 14:30 |
| VW | cool | 14:30 |
| fifieldt | but more on that when I have ideas to propose on what confusion to replace it with | 14:30 |
| fifieldt | :) | 14:30 |
| fifieldt | more? | 14:31 |
| fifieldt | moving on in .... 3 .... | 14:31 |
| mrhillsman | that's a long 3 | 14:32 |
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| fifieldt | #topic Talk a little about next midcycle | 14:32 |
| VW | hee hee | 14:32 |
| fifieldt | I had trouble counting :( | 14:32 |
| mrhillsman | hehe | 14:32 |
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| fifieldt | so, midcycle! | 14:32 |
| fifieldt | exciting | 14:32 |
| mrhillsman | do tell! | 14:32 |
| fifieldt | where do we begin? | 14:32 |
| zioproto | fifieldt: I had some email exchange with enter.it in Milano | 14:32 |
| zioproto | they are really interested in hosting it | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | the geo-region should oppose boston, right? | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | pinning down location is probably best yes? any other options on the table? how long do we want to wait to set on a location? | 14:33 |
| shintaro | Also Tokyo would be a candidate | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | for the travel fairness goal I think | 14:33 |
| dc_mattj | +1 for Milan | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | yes I think the rough process is consensus on acceptable general regions, then appeal for proposed sponsors | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | if I'm right, then italy does seem suitably far from boston? | 14:34 |
| dc_mattj | so how about we get ahead of ourselves with this and put out a call for hosting now for the mid cycle | 14:34 |
| dc_mattj | then we'll not be running to catch up | 14:34 |
| fifieldt | for reference, last time we talked about this, we wrote some stuff: | 14:35 |
| fifieldt | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups#Date_and_Region_selection | 14:35 |
| dc_mattj | we need to get these things overlapping with the organisation if we don't want to be in total panic mode for each one | 14:35 |
| fifieldt | dc_mattj: this seems sane | 14:35 |
| zioproto | I specifically exchanged emails with Mariano Cunetti, that did also a presentation in Manchester. He wants to host but he is confused about what to do. People from enter.it will be in Barcellona, we can ask them what is their plan exactly | 14:35 |
| dc_mattj | I know Mariano very well, I can also talk with him separately | 14:35 |
| fifieldt | what kind of stuff do we need for a "call for host"? | 14:36 |
| dc_mattj | but I propose lets go to the list first | 14:36 |
| dc_mattj | see if we get any takers | 14:36 |
| zioproto | dc_mattj: I will add you in Cc: to our next email exchange and I will switch language to English :) I was thinking of sending to him the log of this IRC meeting | 14:36 |
| mrhillsman | this is a shorter cycle as well | 14:36 |
| dc_mattj | zioproto, k | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | is there a general assumption of europe for this one? or is it simply !NorthAmerica? | 14:37 |
| VW | I think we should put out a call for both the next Mid-cycle AND the one after that | 14:37 |
| mrhillsman | from what i heard/hear | 14:37 |
| VW | or we are never going to get ahead | 14:37 |
| mrhillsman | +1 | 14:37 |
| fifieldt | so what do we need to put out a call? | 14:37 |
| dc_mattj | why don't we start from !NorthAmerica and see what we get in terms of offers to host ? | 14:37 |
| serverascode | when would the next midcycle be? this year? | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | early next year I believe | 14:37 |
| dc_mattj | we need a volunteer to post to the ML | 14:37 |
| VW | yes - if we can decide on approximate dates | 14:37 |
| VW | I'm happy to send an email | 14:37 |
| fifieldt | we probably need to provide enough information for people to be able to determine whether they can host or not | 14:37 |
| dc_mattj | so we should be able to decide that now right ? | 14:38 |
| fifieldt | since not everyone knows what an ops midcycle is | 14:38 |
| dc_mattj | dates I mean | 14:38 |
| zioproto | do we have a generic page somewhere that defines what a ops midcycle is ? | 14:38 |
| shintaro | Week of Feb 20 is Ocata relase and PWG meetings | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | Bloomberg got a rough idea of what dates were desirable from this group I believe, and then we booked a venue and came back and proposed both venue and specific dates | 14:38 |
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| fifieldt | Traditional: Feb/March && August | 14:38 |
| dc_mattj | ok, so ML post needs to outline what the ops mid cycle is, what is required in terms of space/sponsors etc, and what the approx dates are | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | I can write this email, happy to | 14:39 |
| fifieldt | a word of caution - people can sometimes get excited and just book things without "approval" :) keep eyes out if you see this | 14:39 |
| fifieldt | and solve with education | 14:39 |
| mihalis68 | feb/march, !NorthAmerica, here is what the process is at high level | 14:39 |
| dc_mattj | perhaps we should start a tradition and get the person who last hosted to set up the next victim ;) | 14:39 |
| mihalis68 | ha ha, guess it's me either way then | 14:40 |
| VW | seems reasonable | 14:40 |
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| mihalis68 | alright action on me for that | 14:40 |
| dc_mattj | at least you can now talk with some certainty about what's involved | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | the fame, the free jet rides? | 14:40 |
| fifieldt | #action mihalis68 to write up a call for hosts experssion of interest | 14:41 |
| fifieldt | mihalis68: I'm happy to review and be a sounding board if you want | 14:41 |
| mihalis68 | great, yes please! | 14:41 |
| fifieldt | cool | 14:41 |
| dc_mattj | mihalis68, same here | 14:41 |
| fifieldt | #action dc_mattj to do mihalis68's laundry and dishes | 14:41 |
| dc_mattj | lol | 14:41 |
| fifieldt | Are there any other topics about the next midcycle we'd like to discuss? | 14:42 |
| dc_mattj | one thing I would add is that we don't necessarily need someone to pay for everything, ie. we can raise external sponsorship if needed | 14:42 |
| fifieldt | right | 14:42 |
| dc_mattj | might be a bigger ask for some of the smaller companies if they think they've got to pay for it all | 14:42 |
| zioproto | If we do it anywhere in Europe | 14:43 |
| zioproto | it might be wise | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | Oh that reminds me, one request FROM us (Bloomberg) are there any good photos of bloomberg employees speaking at the last one | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | ? | 14:43 |
| fifieldt | that sounds like a very important request | 14:43 |
| zioproto | to do it in the same week of FOSDEM (a lot of openstack content), so people flying from far away can see two events | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | our marketing folks wanted some stuff out of that event | 14:43 |
| shintaro | the registration fee. should we still charge $20? was that effective? | 14:43 |
| fifieldt | can everyone quickly search their photos for mihalis68 | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | I believe so | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | this pains me (to ASK for photos of myself). Normally it's 'no, thanks, I'd rather not see them' | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | anyway | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | registration fee worked I believe | 14:44 |
| zioproto | sorry, I wrote my last sentence in three lines and it was confusing. Because it is a two days event try to put it close to another event for the advantage of who travles from far away. For EU the FOSDEM is a good candidate, for Japan I dont know | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | nobody mentioned feeling there were freeloaders | 14:44 |
| fifieldt | shintaro: I can confirm the fee has helped the "no show" rate greatly, and also kept away anmy "freeloaders" who weren't really interested in the content | 14:44 |
| shintaro | mihalis68 fifieldt: thanks then we should continue | 14:45 |
| fifieldt | however, I believe we should configure it so there are no "hidden" taxes or charges | 14:45 |
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| fifieldt | so actually $20, rather than $21.19 | 14:45 |
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| fifieldt | any other topics regarding the next midcycle? | 14:46 |
| shintaro | One question. was that fee used for the venue? | 14:46 |
| shintaro | of coffee? | 14:46 |
| mihalis68 | it was $22.09 for, which makes me think it is a complex thing depending on location, so maybe not easy to lock down to a single price | 14:47 |
| fifieldt | The fee ended up being put towards venue hire for the party | 14:47 |
| zioproto | any comment on this topic of putting the mid cycle close to another openstack or opensource event ? | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | oh very good, wasn't aware | 14:47 |
| zioproto | anyone think is reasonable ? | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | I agree that if it's possible it is very good for the attendees to get more value from their travel | 14:47 |
| fifieldt | but, tbh, there is probably money left over from the fee | 14:47 |
| fifieldt | I think the fee should probably 100% go toward the event :) | 14:48 |
| mperazol | @zioproto +1 for colocating next to an existing event | 14:48 |
| fifieldt | indee mihalis68, so we choose an appropriate price for the venue | 14:48 |
| mihalis68 | it would be a little bit off-putting if the entrance fee became a beer/food fund, however | 14:48 |
| zioproto | I stress this because for me it is very difficult to get approval to travel to Japan just for two days | 14:48 |
| zioproto | I think that holds for many | 14:48 |
| zioproto | but if I can make an agenda of 4 days that sounds much better | 14:49 |
| shintaro | oh... | 14:49 |
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| fifieldt | ok, 10 minutes to go | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | anything further on mid-cycles? | 14:53 |
| dc_mattj | I'd suggest we don't rat hole too much on this at this point until we have some possibilities on the table ? Main thing I think right now is to have an approx date | 14:53 |
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| fifieldt | right, we have our action item | 14:53 |
| VW | based on shift in summits, fifieldt | 14:53 |
| VW | would the following mid-cycle still be Aug | 14:53 |
| mihalis68 | anyone know of other events that might be appropriate to organize next mid-cycle nearb/just after/just before? | 14:53 |
| VW | or do we need to start thinking about adjusting dates in the future | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | yeah, VW - summits are basically in the same place as before | 14:53 |
| VW | groovy | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | it was the release cycle that changed around the summits | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | (since we kinda already have $$$$ bookings) | 14:53 |
| VW | good point | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | #topic Announce of small NREN operators meetup event | 14:53 |
| zioproto | mihalis68: http://cfgmgmtcamp.eu/gent-2017/ this is another one that could be interesting if you have to fly to Europe | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | #link https://eventr.geant.org/events/2527 | 14:53 |
| zioproto | yes | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | zioproto: any words? | 14:53 |
| zioproto | sure | 14:53 |
| zioproto | NREN stands for National Research Education Networks | 14:53 |
| zioproto | we are public cloud providers | 14:53 |
| zioproto | for universities | 14:53 |
| zioproto | we have stress to have openstack available with SAML Shibboleth setups | 14:53 |
| mihalis68 | I have to mention that config management received spirited comments almost rising to hostility in the NYC event | 14:53 |
| mihalis68 | lots of comments along the lines of "there's nothing more to say" | 14:53 |
| zioproto | we organize this small event before barcelona | 14:53 |
| zioproto | anyone interested in Federation topics | 14:53 |
| zioproto | is welcome | 14:53 |
| mihalis68 | so "joining" with a cfgmgmtcamp isn't obviously a win perhps | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | The agenda looks nice: | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZevFuLbumCzf1kmdBy-WkeyjWBG3PfJCuaidTcYkBb8/edit | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | thanks for sharing zioproto ! | 14:53 |
| zioproto | we would like to do a two days sprint and prepare some output for the UserCase working group | 14:53 |
| mihalis68 | I'll have to go read more about it | 14:53 |
| mihalis68 | I actually have an ongoing interest in those tools | 14:53 |
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| fifieldt | sounds excellent | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | moving quickl;y on ... | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | #topic BCN lightning talks | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | we have a problem | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | only 1 lightning talk was submitted | 14:53 |
| mperazol | is it restricted to "war stories"? | 14:54 |
| fifieldt | not at all | 14:54 |
| mperazol | I could speak about the Ops integration framework we're going to open source then | 14:54 |
| fifieldt | architecture show and tell | 14:54 |
| fifieldt | interesting feature | 14:54 |
| fifieldt | feel free to propose | 14:54 |
| mperazol | I'll add to the wiki then | 14:55 |
| fifieldt | I was looking for a more general solution :) | 14:55 |
| fifieldt | Think we juist need to send a separate mail to ask for lighting taslks? | 14:55 |
| fifieldt | I susp[ect people have ideas, they just didn't scroll down enough | 14:55 |
| mihalis68 | is this back on BCN? I assume it must be? | 14:55 |
| fifieldt | BCN yup | 14:55 |
| fifieldt | we have 80 minutes worth of slot time for them | 14:56 |
| mperazol | anyone else have been doing deployments of Ops on top of openstack here? would be interesting to see other production scenarios | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | I'll do that second email too if you like | 14:56 |
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| * fifieldt sighs | 14:56 | |
| fifieldt | thanks mihalis68 !! | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | I think they are fun and easy to commit to | 14:56 |
| fifieldt | #action mihalis68 email ops ML to rouse support for lghting talks | 14:56 |
| fifieldt | you may want to consider a new etherpad | 14:56 |
| VW | agreed | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | and I agree it might just be people not seeing that category | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | everyone ok with separate ether pad? | 14:56 |
| fifieldt | something like https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-ops-lightning-talks ? | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | you just made that :) | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | alright seems not objectionable | 14:57 |
| fifieldt | thank you sir | 14:57 |
| * fifieldt wishes it mwas easier to ship beeer around the planet | 14:57 | |
| fifieldt | ok, 3 minutes left | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | #topic Aall other business | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | you already bought me some, so that's fine :) | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | anyone, anything? | 14:58 |
| VW | 3 things | 14:58 |
| VW | 1. Edgar will join us next week | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | I'm going to boast : last legacy cluster switched off last friday | 14:58 |
| serverascode | mihalis68 nice | 14:58 |
| VW | 2. Tuba is interested in the Nova session (depending on schedule) and mentioned others | 14:58 |
| VW | 3. Is there a copy of the Nova session schedule because tuba mentioned gaps and I'd love to schedule around those :D | 14:59 |
| fifieldt | on 3, it's coming soon | 14:59 |
| fifieldt | but these have been some of the most productive minutes of the meeting - nice work VW! | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | agreed | 14:59 |
| VW | cool - if you can send myself and dc_mattj a rough idea of the gaps | 15:00 |
| fifieldt | anmd that's time | 15:00 |
| VW | we can try to tweak the schedule | 15:00 |
| dc_mattj | +1 | 15:00 |
| fifieldt | #action fifieldt to investigate gaps in nova | 15:00 |
| fifieldt | Thank you all very, very much | 15:00 |
| zioproto | thanks ! | 15:00 |
| mihalis68 | thank YOU | 15:00 |
| shintaro | thank you | 15:00 |
| fifieldt | Make Ops Meetups Great Again etc | 15:00 |
| mihalis68 | ouch | 15:00 |
| zioproto | great meeting as always | 15:00 |
| fifieldt | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 27 15:00:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-09-27-14.00.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-09-27-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-09-27-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
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| zioproto | shintaro: what is the exact name of the working group you talked me about in NYC ? | 15:01 |
| serverascode | thanks! | 15:01 |
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