Tuesday, 2016-11-22

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shintaroanybody here for the ops-meetup-team?14:11
shintaroguess not...14:12
Stefano_Yes :)14:12
shintarohi14:12
Stefano_Enter... i'm here with my colleague Elena (Enter Cloud Suite marketing)14:13
yankcrimei can probably kick dc_mattj irl if you need shintaro14:13
shintarowasn't sure if we are going to have a meeting today.14:13
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mihalis68I'm here14:14
shintarohi mihalis6814:15
mihalis68good <timeofdayinyourregion> to all :)14:16
mihalis68#startmeeting Ops Meetups Team14:17
openstackMeeting started Tue Nov 22 14:17:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:17
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:17
shintaronot many ppl here but we can at least go through action items from last week.14:17
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetups_team'14:17
mihalis68yes looks like neither recent meeting chair is here so I'll try to do it14:18
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mihalis68I am trying to find the actions, one second14:19
shintaroI've just updated the etherpad14:19
mrhillsmansorry so late14:19
Stefano_link please :)14:20
mihalis68Ok I seem to have lost my bearing with links. one action I recall was I was supposed to email the list saying that we want to time limit call for North American hosts until end of year and if still nobody we'll consider offers in other regions. no progress I'll do that today14:20
mrhillsmanhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team14:20
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mihalis68#action mihalis68 to email list about time-limiting call for NA hosts to end of year14:21
dc_mattjsorry I'm late14:21
mihalis68my other action was to email mrhillsman to request he close the doodle poll. I did that14:21
mihalis68he closed it during the last meeting14:21
dc_mattjdo we have anyone from Enter here ?14:23
Stefano_Yes14:23
Stefano_I'm with Elena, Enter Cloud Suite marketing14:23
shintaroCongrats!14:23
dc_mattjciao Stefano_14:24
Stefano_ciao14:24
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mihalis68Is that it for discussing last weeks actions14:25
dc_mattjmihalis68, are you chair ?14:25
mihalis68I started the meeting yes14:25
dc_mattjok cool14:25
mihalis68nobody was driving and it was quarter past14:25
mihalis68Ok next thing I see on the agenda is august venue discussion14:26
dc_mattjcan I suggest we move up item 4 I just added, to confirm Milan as the venue as we have Stefano_ here14:26
mihalis68ok by me14:26
mihalis68#topic confirm Milan14:26
dc_mattjStefano_, are you guys all still good for the March event ?14:27
Stefano_Yes the official location is Coworking Login (Milan)14:27
mihalis68and the date is March 15th/16th14:27
dc_mattjOK, so we will need to start moving forward with the logistical elements of that - we will need to discuss sponsors, catering, hotel discounts14:28
dc_mattjand also make sure we are clear with who is doing what14:28
dc_mattjmihalis68, do we want to discuss that this week or add to agenda for next week ?14:28
shintarowe need someone from the Foundation to support14:28
mihalis68attendance is very thin today and only 30 mins left so I say push to next week?14:29
dc_mattjok, I will create the agenda for next week14:29
Stefano_Ok14:29
dc_mattjStefano_, we will need someone from Enter to attend these meetings every week from now on - will that mainly be you ?14:29
mihalis68agreed, there needs to be an anchor person from the sponsoring host14:29
Stefano_No, i think Mariano and Elena14:30
mrhillsmanmay i suggest opening up an email thread like we did for nyc and bcn14:30
Stefano_Let us check14:31
dc_mattjyes, might be easier than handling everything in IRC14:31
mrhillsmanbetween meetups team and Enter personnel14:31
mihalis68someone  needs to be the "benevolent dictator" working on the itinerary, moderators etc14:31
mihalis68separate from the organizing of venue, catering etc14:31
mrhillsmandc_mattj i thought was that for this time around?14:31
mihalis68That was for Barcelona!14:32
mrhillsmanor maybe just running meetings :)14:32
mrhillsmanok14:32
mihalis68he's already retired14:32
mihalis68:)14:32
dc_mattjlol14:32
dc_mattjagreed, I think we need to work out how much of the logistics Enter are happy to do, and what needs to be done by us14:32
mihalis68Is there a person associated with the Milan event volunteering to drive forward itinerary, moderators etc?14:32
mrhillsmanshintaro ?14:32
dc_mattjand how much Mariano wants to get involved with the session planning14:32
dc_mattjif it's anyone it will be Mariano at Enter for that14:33
mihalis68Shintaro is not directly involved in the Milan event AFAIK14:33
dc_mattjfor the logistics they have other people involved14:33
shintarowell, yes but I can help14:33
mrhillsmansorry shintaro was for tokyo14:33
mihalis68yeah14:33
dc_mattjI am happy to also help with Milan organising14:33
dc_mattjmihalis68, can I have an action to start an email thread with Enter14:34
mrhillsmanmay i suggest mariano then be benevolent14:34
dc_mattjand also an action to create next week agenda14:34
mihalis68dc_mattj given that you're in the closest timezone to Milan want to be benevolent dictator at least for time being?14:34
dc_mattjmihalis68, I will for the time being and will discuss with Mariano14:34
mihalis68#action dc_mattj to start email thread with Milan host (Enter) about arrangements for March meetup14:34
dc_mattjcan we have action for that as well14:34
mrhillsmani can ride shotgun dc_mattj to learn and be on the chopping block for next event14:34
Stefano_we can organize catering, hotel discounts... and we can propose a moderator.14:35
mihalis68#action dc_mattj to create agenda for Nov 29 meeting14:35
mrhillsmanthx Stefano_14:35
mihalis68#agreed dc_mattj is the initial Benevolent Dictator over itinerary, moderators for Milan at least until a sponsoring org person takes over14:35
Stefano_we need some support for sponsors.14:36
dc_mattjmihalis68, wrong agenda - I just created that top one for next week14:36
dc_mattjor whoever is red, sorry think it's mrhillsman14:37
mihalis68I'm confused now, you asked for "action too create next week agent"14:37
mihalis68agenda14:37
mihalis68oh I get it. Melvin you're in the future!14:37
dc_mattjI did that, someone is modifying it in the ether pad14:37
dc_mattjlol14:37
mrhillsmanhehe, my bad :)14:38
dc_mattjlets stick to this weeks agenda ;)14:38
dc_mattjok, ty mihalis68 - I think we have all we need from item 4 for the minute14:38
mihalis68yep14:38
dc_mattjI have my actions !14:39
mihalis68#topic august location14:39
mihalis68anyone know if best buy got back to anyone?14:39
dc_mattjyes, they got back to me14:39
mihalis68no go?14:39
dc_mattjone of our contacts has left14:39
mihalis68aha14:39
dc_mattjsec, just digging out the email14:39
dc_mattjso Steve Eastham who's their Director Web engineering, got back to me.14:40
dc_mattj"Let me talk this over with the Cloud Eng. team in Seattle; there’s a Sr. Director that is in charge of the office and while I employee a few folks based out of that office, events like this would hit the Seattle cost center not mine.14:40
dc_mattjI’ll get back to you in the next couple of weeks if I’m able to host this or not."14:40
dc_mattjthat was on the 17th14:40
dc_mattjso they will get back to us basically14:40
mihalis68ok that's still a maybe. That's in line with last weeks consensus that we allow until end of year for North America to produce a host14:41
mrhillsmandid we send any follow up to ML on NA location request(s)?14:41
mihalis68that was my action from last week and I overlooked it. I will do it today stating that it's still open until end of year14:42
mrhillsmanah ok good deal14:42
mihalis68Shintaro I think you were going to investigate whether hosting in August would be a possibility if north america is ruled out for August14:43
shintaroyes. I need approval for the budget for next year. still working14:44
mihalis68#info BestBuy still possible14:44
mihalis68#info Tokyo(shintaro) also still possible14:45
mihalis6815 minutes left. Is that it for the August location14:45
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mihalis68#topic session structure14:46
mihalis68this is the last item on the agenda14:46
mihalis68https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/6l4xjmlQ/14:46
catintheroofHi, i have this same critical bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1643462, but instead of newton, it happens on mitaka also, everything on ubuntu 16.04, does anyone have a tip ?14:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1643462 in Cinder "Newton rbd: error creating image" [Undecided,New]14:46
mrhillsmanmihalis68 i can work on aligning common sessions14:47
dc_mattjmihalis68, I think the best way forward for this is to ask everyone to review the previous sessions, so that we all have a feel for how much duplication there is14:47
dc_mattjmrhillsman, +114:47
mrhillsmancreate an etherpad i guess with common across nyc and bcn and maybe event just before nyc14:48
dc_mattjoff the top of my head I can list at least ~10 sessions we've had at every meeting since MCR14:48
mihalis68You want to take an action on this you both?14:48
dc_mattjI would take MCR and AUS as well14:48
mrhillsmanok i can do that14:48
dc_mattjme too14:49
dc_mattjthis is my bugbear so I'll take some pain too14:49
dc_mattj:)14:49
mihalis68so this would be "meet ups greatest hits"?14:49
dc_mattjexactly14:49
mrhillsmanindeed :)14:49
dc_mattjso we have a common starting point not just a blank sheet14:49
dc_mattjand will make session planning smoother14:49
dc_mattjI also added an agenda item for next week to review this14:49
mihalis68@action dc_mattj, mrhillsman to consolidate typical itinerary items from last 4-5 meet ups into discussion document to kick start future even planning14:50
mihalis68hang on14:50
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mihalis68#action dc_mattj, mrhillsman to consolidate typical itinerary items from last 4-5 meet ups into discussion document to kick start future even planning14:50
mrhillsmani think we need an email for the evening event as well14:51
mrhillsmani can do that14:51
mihalis68requesting a sponsor for a social?14:51
mrhillsmanyeah14:51
mrhillsmanmight as well get ahead of that now14:51
mihalis68#action mrhillsman to email list requesting sponsor for evening social14:51
dc_mattjmrhillsman, let me speak to Enter first14:51
dc_mattjbecause we may need other sponsors too14:51
mrhillsmanok14:51
dc_mattjthen we can do a general call14:51
mrhillsmansounds good14:51
dc_mattjEnter are a small company so we might need 2-3 other sponsors14:52
dc_mattjI have just emailed Mariano14:52
mrhillsmangreat, thx14:52
dc_mattjI've suggested that he and I have a quick call so I can set the scene14:52
dc_mattjthen I will start an email thread with everyone on it14:52
mihalis68#action dc_mattj to discuss number of additional sponsors required for milan, talking to Enter14:53
dc_mattj+114:53
dc_mattjI also added a sponsors agenda item for next week :)14:53
mihalis68you are picking up actions like ticks on a dog in a bramble14:54
mihalis68we have about 5 minutes left14:54
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mrhillsmannothing more from me :)14:55
dc_mattjnothing from me14:55
mihalis68anyone else?14:55
shintarome neither14:55
Stefano_it's ok for me14:55
mihalis68me neither. Ok thanks everyone14:56
mihalis68#stopmeeting14:56
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shintarothanks14:56
dc_mattjthanks ll14:56
dc_mattjall14:56
mrhillsmanendmeeting :)14:56
mihalis68quite good progress for small number of people and late start14:56
mihalis68#endmeeting14:56
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mrhillsmanthx mihalis68 for steering14:56
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dc_mattjtx mihalis6814:56
mihalis68thanks for the correction!14:56
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mrhillsmananytime :)14:57
mrhillsmanhehe14:57
mihalis68this new 9am start for me is tough14:57
mrhillsman8am for me :)14:57
mrhillsmansame14:57
dc_mattjI got confused because we just switched back to GMT14:57
dc_mattjand my calendar didn't adjust14:57
mihalis68@mrhillsman wow tough14:57
mihalis68i'm impressed14:57
mrhillsmani was still in the bed lol14:58
mihalis68mind you I commute to midtown manhattan before this meetig14:58
mrhillsmanthankfully i work from home14:58
dc_mattjits nearly midnight in Tokyo14:58
mihalis68that's merciful14:58
mrhillsmanyeah, i am the one who is impressed14:58
mrhillsmandc_mattj your spunk to take action one doesn't even notice14:59
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dc_mattjhey emagana15:00
mrhillsmancatintheroof may i suggest asking in #openstack-dev or #openstack-cinder15:01
catintheroofmrhillsman: thx !15:01
emaganahello dc_mattj15:01
mrhillsmani say that because it looks like that is something you cannot work around15:01
mrhillsmanfrom an operational stance15:01
mrhillsmanseems like code needs to be added/changed15:02
dc_mattjemagana, just trying to tie down a timeslot to organise first public cloud WG meeting, we have a doodle poll out and hopefully will get to doing a slot booking later this week15:02
emaganathis week will be complicated because of Thanksgiving15:03
dc_mattjseems like there is good interest15:03
emaganadc_mattj: What is the doodle link?15:03
dc_mattjfirst one will probably be in 2 weeks time anyway15:03
dc_mattjsince the slot is a bi-weekly to start with15:03
emaganadc_mattj: ahhh better  :-)15:03
dc_mattjemagana, http://doodle.com/poll/be43ysxhg5iq3uha15:04
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dc_mattjthe 1400 slot is fully booked next week, which would mean the first meeting would be the 7th if that is the way the voting goes15:05
dc_mattjif I understand the meeting booking system correctly ;)15:05
dc_mattjhard to tell15:05
dc_mattjhopefully I'm reading it right15:05
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emaganathanks dc_mattj I will add my preferences15:08
VWfew minutes late to the office15:12
VWare we having a meetup team meeting15:12
dc_mattjit was in my calendar at 1500 UTC too, but happened at 1400 UTC15:12
dc_mattjnow I'm very confused15:13
VWhmm15:13
dc_mattjthe ether pad says 1400 UTC15:13
dc_mattjfor all the past ones as well15:13
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VWah15:14
VWso, I failed at time math with the Daylight savings change for me15:14
VW:\15:14
dc_mattjwe had the same :)15:14
dc_mattjlol15:14
dc_mattjminutes are in the ether pad anyway15:14
mihalis68sorry you missed us VW15:15
mihalis68there was nobody here at 9am :)15:16
mihalis68the meeting only got going pretty late as it was15:16
dc_mattjVW, I noticed you voted in my doodle poll for the public cloud WG - are you planning to participate ? Would be great to have Rackspace involved15:16
VWI will do my best to particpate, dc_mattj15:17
VWI do believe that public cloud wg and large deployments can have slightly different, but sometimes overlapping, focus15:18
VWso I'd like to make sure we can help each other15:18
dc_mattjI agree15:18
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VWnot to mention, I make it a habit to hang out with Matts much cooler than myself :P15:19
dc_mattjwho are they then ? ;)15:20
mihalis68no such thing15:20
VWhow's the family dc_mattj15:20
dc_mattjgetting there15:20
dc_mattjgood to be getting back to a bit of normality now15:21
VWall are happy and healthy15:21
VWso, mihalis68 - anything of note out of today's meeting?15:27
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mihalis68sorry was looking at something else...15:29
mihalis68so BestBuy is still a possibility for next August.15:29
mihalis68if not, Shintaro may be able to pull something together for Tokyo15:30
mihalis68sorry I forget his organization right now15:30
mihalis68dc_mattj and mrhillsman volunteered to pull together a set of common topics from all recent meet ups so that we can kickstart planning for Milan and August15:30
mihalis68and for now dc_mattj is also the benevolent dictator for Milan i.e. the person who has to keep pushing through to get the itinerary, moderators etc all lined up in time15:31
dc_mattjmihalis68, Shintaro works for NTT15:31
mihalis68oh yeah, that's right15:32
mihalis68so if not best buy/west coast USA, it may be tokyo/ntt15:32
mihalis68those are the main points I believe15:32
mihalis68also I still can't drive meetbot :)15:33
VWcool - thanks, mihalis6815:35
mihalis68most welcome15:35
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zioprotocatintheroof: still there ?15:49
zioprotocatintheroof: about this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1643462 rbd version 10.2.2 but what is the version of the ceph cluster in the backend ? without this information it is going to be hard to reproduce for the devs15:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1643462 in Cinder "Newton rbd: error creating image" [Undecided,New]15:50
catintheroofzioproto: is hammer15:50
zioprotoadd this information to the ticket15:51
zioprotoand also add the information that you see the same bug also in Liberty15:51
zioprotoI have to go, sorry15:52
zioprotoI also missed the meeting today15:52
zioprotogood that Stefano from enter was here :)15:52
zioprotobye !15:52
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