Tuesday, 2016-12-06

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shintarohi14:06
mihalis68hello. I only just got to my desk14:07
mihalis68who else is on14:07
mihalis68I'm not sure what quorum requirements there are to have this meeting, but I suspect two people is too few14:08
shintaroI wasn't sure if ops-meetup-team meeting is weekly or bi-weekly14:08
shintarotwo of us is too few, I agree14:08
mihalis68I think there is unofficial agreement that it is weekly right now, however I see in the emails that dc_mattj and fifield cannot make this meeting14:08
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mihalis68hello emagana14:09
mihalis68we have not started the meeting - too few so far14:10
emaganamihalis68: sorry, I am in ameeting14:10
mihalis68np14:10
shintaroI'll be here for a while in case someone else shows up14:14
mihalis68yes me too14:14
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mrhillsmano/14:17
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mihalis68good morning14:17
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mrhillsmanspotty connection if yall lose me off and on :(14:17
mihalis68mrhillsman I believe there are still too few here for a meeting14:17
shintarohi14:17
mihalis68possibly just me shintaro and you14:18
mrhillsmanhow many?14:18
shintaro314:18
mihalis683-4 max14:18
mihalis68no tom no vw no dc_mattj14:18
mrhillsmanyeah, not enough indeed14:18
mihalis68Intel is offering to sponsor next August's meet up : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-venue-discuss-aug-201714:19
mrhillsmanis there anything we can knock out?14:19
mrhillsmannice14:19
shintarohow is the session scheduling for milano? I see no update on the spreadsheet14:20
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mrhillsmani think we were waiting for something from matt discussion with enter14:21
mrhillsmanthe common sessions have been listed and color coded14:21
mihalis68sounds right. Matt mentioned that in his email asking for someone else to chair this14:21
mihalis68I am willing to chair but we are three :|14:21
mihalis68no enter and way below normal attendance14:21
mrhillsmanno enter is really the issue imho14:22
mrhillsmansince there is only a small group anyways hehe14:22
fminzoni2hi, Federico from enter14:22
shintaroAre there any work that I can do off-line?14:22
mihalis68I had encouraging feedback from my line management that the August 2016 event was "good value" from Bloomberg's perspective14:23
fminzoni2I'm here if you have any question about the location for the next meetup14:23
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mihalis68so we may be able to help with Milan14:23
fminzoni2but no idea about the session scheduling14:23
mihalis68Hi Federico14:23
mihalis68I think the burning question was how is the cost breakdown, in particular how much will be required to be found from additional sponsors?14:23
mrhillsmanfederico, what became of the talk about additional sponosrs14:23
mrhillsman:)14:24
fminzoni2Of course we are looking for sponsorship14:24
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shintaroshould we start the meeting? for note taking purpose14:24
mihalis68ok14:24
mrhillsman+114:24
mihalis68#startmeeting Ops Meetups Team14:25
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec  6 14:25:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:25
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:25
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetups_team'14:25
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mihalis68hello everyone welcome to the Ops Meets Team meeting14:25
shintarohi14:25
mrhillsmano/14:25
fminzoni2hi14:25
mihalis68agenda14:25
mihalis68#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team14:25
mihalis68#topic review session structure stuff14:26
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mihalis68oops first item should be14:27
mihalis68#topic last weeks actions14:27
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mihalis68looks like there were no actions last week?14:29
mihalis68#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-11-29-14.04.html14:29
shintaroseems not14:29
mrhillsmangot disconnected14:29
mihalis68#topic session structure review14:30
shintaro#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-WEsEmwms2SLyjt2jtCMvpepmiHwoiDkMWMWk37rkRA/edit#gid=014:30
mihalis68I forget where we are with this to be quite honest14:31
mihalis68dc_mattj has put a lot of work in there to collect all the topics and their popularity14:32
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mrhillsmanshyza cannot keep connected14:32
mrhillsmanright14:32
mrhillsmanwe were waiting on room layout14:33
mihalis68ah good point14:33
mihalis68Federico are there maps available?14:33
mrhillsmanso we can build the spreadsheet slots14:33
fminzoni2yes sure14:33
mihalis68Can you share now, or possibly email one of us and we'll share with the mailing list afterwards?14:34
fminzoni2Yes, I'll provide you a link with the maps of the area14:34
shintaroso there was an etherpad page for Milan #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-meetup14:34
mihalis68mihalis68@gmail.com14:34
shintaromaybe you can put the link there14:35
mihalis68+114:35
mrhillsman+114:35
fminzoni2ok we'll provide the maps for the location14:36
fminzoni2(mcunietti here)14:36
mihalis68let me see if I can suggest some ways to move forward14:36
mihalis68does everyone like the list of common topics that are on the google doc that shintaro shared above?14:37
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VWhey golks14:37
mrhillsmansure, they have been sessions before14:37
VWfolks even14:38
VWsorry for being late - crazy morning14:38
mihalis68hey VW14:38
fminzoni2ok for us they seem super comprehensive14:38
fminzoni2a bit overkill for 2-day session :-)14:38
shintaroto be honest, I don't know how the colours meant to mean14:38
mrhillsmanhey VW14:38
mihalis68they just indicate the same topic in different meetups14:38
mihalis68vw we are discussing itinerary for milan14:39
mihalis68I also shared the link for august 2017 because intel has made a proposal14:39
VWcool14:39
mihalis68it seems that without dc_mattj to explain his method on the google doc for milan we're a bit stuck on this. Shall we punt on that this week since attendance is still a bit low?14:40
fminzoni2is there any specific question or issue you would like to address with us (the host) for Milano?14:40
mihalis68I think we wanted to know roughly what the sponsorship "gap" was14:41
fminzoni2I (mcunietti) had a chat with Matt 10 days ago and he explained me in very deep details all the stuff to get going for the Meetup14:41
mrhillsmanwhat costs are covered, what do you need extra sponsors to cover14:41
fminzoni2we are still discussing this internally (the sponsorhips). We'll have some answers next week14:41
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mihalis68Ok. That works for me14:41
fminzoni2first, we are trying to understand the total cost of the event, and then slice it on the sponsors14:41
fminzoni2consider this week is going to be bank holiday in Italy, so expect some delay14:42
mihalis68my employer may be interested in being an extra sponsor14:42
fminzoni2who is your employer, mihalis?14:42
mihalis68bloomberg14:42
mrhillsmandid matt give enough detail for your team federico?14:42
mihalis68we were the host for the August 2016 meetup14:42
fminzoni2good, so loads of money :-)14:42
mrhillsmanlol14:42
fminzoni2what do you mean "detail for your team" mrhillsman?14:43
mihalis68most of the loot goes to charitable causes, however :)14:43
fminzoni2of course :-)14:43
mrhillsmanyou said you needed to know costs14:43
mihalis68Ok we need to get moving in this meeting14:43
fminzoni2yes we need to define the suppliers, first14:44
mihalis68I propose we agree to review rooms before next meeting based on getting the map soon?14:44
mrhillsmanagreed14:44
fminzoni2ok we'll post it on the Etherpad, right?14:44
mihalis68#agreed review rooms next week14:44
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mihalis68yes please14:44
fminzoni2fine14:44
mihalis68I propose I email dc_mattj to see if he will push forward the itinerary planning or whether we need someone else to be pulled in14:44
mihalis68he was supposedly the benevolent dictator for this14:45
mrhillsmansounds good14:45
mihalis68it's the crucial bit of the planning process14:45
fminzoni2I think he will be the BD anyway, maybe he's just busy today14:45
mrhillsmanindeed14:45
mihalis68#action mihalis68 to check with dc_mattj if he's still overseeing the itinerary planning14:45
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fminzoni2moreover we're friends with him, and this makes everything much easier14:46
mihalis68he just couldn't make it, which leads me to14:46
mihalis68#topic time of regular meeting14:46
mihalis68matt and tom cannot make this time slot most weeks recently14:46
fminzoni2we too14:46
mihalis68matt asked in an email can we possibly make it one hour later?14:46
fminzoni2+114:47
mrhillsmanwe are all friends federico :)14:47
fminzoni2ca va sans dire14:47
mihalis68so the proposal is 15:00 UTC I believe14:47
mihalis68how many are we now?14:47
mrhillsmanhour later works for me14:47
shintarothat will be midnight for me, but I can try if that would work for everyone:)14:47
mrhillsmanah14:48
mihalis68are we enough to vote and for it to be representative?14:48
mrhillsmantable it imo14:48
mrhillsmanwe are small group anyways14:48
mihalis68I'm not sure what table it means. In the US and UK that has diff meanings!14:48
mrhillsmansend email14:48
mihalis68ok I can do that14:49
mrhillsmanhehe, sorry14:49
mihalis68#mihalis68 to email the list to get feedback on time of regular meeting14:49
fminzoni2in italy "table it" means it's lunchtime :-)14:49
mihalis68could everyone just state (non-binding) yes or no to move this one hour later?14:49
mihalis68shintaro is qualified yes, I'd like it later, matt would like it later, not sure about Tom, maybe yes also14:50
mrhillsmanworks either way for me14:50
fminzoni2yes14:50
mihalis68I would hate to impose on shintaro but I think we miss matt and tom's input14:50
mihalis68Ok i won't try to gerrymander the result but I can mention "some are in favor"14:50
mihalis68:)14:50
fminzoni2would like to be more supportive but we're new to the process indeed14:50
mrhillsmantom was a one time thing iirc14:51
mihalis68The process itself is new14:51
shintaroyes, but Tom is in Asian timezone probably 2300 for him14:51
mihalis68not one-time, but Tom just pulled this together "by magic" for a few and felt the community needed to take over to make this more open, inclusive etc14:51
mihalis68is tom at home right now? he mentioned something about "currently in a timezone where the meeting is at some ungodly hour in the morning" so I assumed he was off traveling14:52
mihalis68Less than 10 minutes left14:52
VWI'll try to sync with Tom directly this week14:52
mrhillsmanwe can email him14:52
VWbut, I'm sure he's bouncing all over the globle14:52
VWglobe even14:52
mrhillsmanyeah14:52
mihalis68I have some actions, but let's say that unless agreement is seen on the mailing list, same time same place next week and I will chair again unless we get Tom back?14:53
mihalis68any more topics people would like to discuss this week?14:53
mrhillsman+114:53
fminzoni2none from us14:54
mrhillsmannothing from me14:54
shintaronone from me14:54
mihalis68Federico you will try to get an indication of "funding gap" for next week?14:54
fminzoni2ok sure14:54
fminzoni2consider the bank holiday, will try our best14:54
mihalis68dc_mattj said that the Manchester event had a bunch of extra sponsors fill the gap and it was $1k each so not bad14:54
mihalis68You can email me if you can't make the IRC meeting and I can share with the meeting14:55
fminzoni2ok14:55
mihalis685 minutes left14:55
mihalis68think we may be done14:55
mihalis68any more for any more?14:55
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mihalis68#actuon fminzoni2 to try to get cost gap14:56
mihalis68#action fminzoni2 to try to get cost gap14:56
mihalis68#action fminzoni2 to share venue maps for review (put on ether pad)14:56
mihalis68ok, about to finish. Last call14:56
mihalis68thanks for all who attended making it at this early/late/whatever hour :)14:57
mihalis68#endmeeting14:57
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fminzoni2thank y'all14:57
fminzoni2bye14:57
shintarobye14:57
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mihalis68goodbye and thanks again14:59
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emagana_mihalis68: My meeting is over..15:05
emagana_mihalis68: What do you need?15:06
mihalis68Oh i was just saying hi as you popped up on IRC and we were having the operators meet ups meeting15:06
mihalis68or trying to15:06
mihalis68very thin attendance15:06
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yankcrimebit late to the party but fwiw there were four additional sponsors for the manchester eu ops meetup15:11
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emagana_Motion Passed! UC will be now an elected one!16:13
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