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| mrhillsman | morning folks | 15:01 |
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| mihalis68 | hello | 15:01 |
| emccormick | good morning everyone | 15:02 |
| raddaoui | o/ | 15:02 |
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| mrhillsman | i am not at my desk yet, chris can you chair? | 15:02 |
| mihalis68 | Sure | 15:03 |
| mihalis68 | #startmeeting Ops Meetup Team | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 31 15:03:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| mrhillsman | ty sir | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 15:03 |
| mihalis68 | #topic review of last weeks actions | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 15:03 |
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| shintaro | hi | 15:03 |
| mihalis68 | No progress on mine. Sorry, we are dealing with a medical issue in my family | 15:03 |
| nishpatwa007 | hi All | 15:04 |
| mihalis68 | (that was the wiki page to tie together all of our meet up initiatives, I will get to it) | 15:04 |
| izaakk | o/ | 15:04 |
| mrhillsman | i sent message to volunteer mods | 15:05 |
| mihalis68 | mrhillsman I saw your email asking for moderators to come forward - very nice. Well done | 15:05 |
| mrhillsman | hope yall got it | 15:05 |
| mrhillsman | as well as the other regarding tickets | 15:06 |
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| mihalis68 | Did that have the eventbrite link? | 15:06 |
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| mihalis68 | Ah ok | 15:06 |
| mihalis68 | I see zioproto had an action to email scientific WG to get them to consider coming to Milan | 15:07 |
| mihalis68 | is zioproto here? | 15:07 |
| mihalis68 | other actions all seemed to have landed on fifieldt | 15:07 |
| mihalis68 | is tom here? | 15:07 |
| mihalis68 | ok. Seems like both not here. I'm going to guess no progress on those | 15:08 |
| mihalis68 | #topic milan planning | 15:08 |
| mihalis68 | how is this going? | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | I had added a possible topic at the end. I wasn't sure which type of session it would best be. Just wanted to point it out in case it was overlooked since it's farther down. | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | Looks like OpsTools-Ansible added a topic after it as well. | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | So take a look between Lightning Talks and Moderators sections and vote if you are interested. :) | 15:10 |
| emccormick | The Cinder one? | 15:10 |
| mihalis68 | I am pulling together the agenda for todays meeting here (I see someone started already, thanks) : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | emccormick: Yep, that's the one. | 15:11 |
| emccormick | I think a general Cinder session beginning with the discussion you proposed would be good. | 15:11 |
| mihalis68 | please add your name to the attendees list | 15:11 |
| emccormick | Put it up top so people can +1 it | 15:11 |
| mrhillsman | we also need a spot for user committee | 15:11 |
| mrhillsman | any objections to that? | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | emccormick: Any thoughts if it would be good as a Lightning Talk or General Session? | 15:12 |
| mihalis68 | for those who don't have it, we are discussing the planning document for milan which is here : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-meetup | 15:12 |
| emccormick | smcginnis: I would do as a general session. Lightning talk seems way too short for something like that. If we have extra time we can do other cinder talk | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | emccormick: Sounds good, I'll move it up. Thanks! | 15:13 |
| shintaro | I've listed the session list on the spreadsheed with num of +1s | 15:13 |
| shintaro | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=2006054635 | 15:13 |
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| emccormick | Did we put a deadline on session submissions? IF not, should we? | 15:14 |
| mihalis68 | How is milan planning actually happening, is it just via the ether pad and the google doc? Or is there an ad-hoc email chain> | 15:14 |
| mihalis68 | ? | 15:14 |
| mihalis68 | +1 agree on deadline | 15:15 |
| mrhillsman | I sent another message regarding submissions | 15:15 |
| mihalis68 | lock it down by this time next week? | 15:15 |
| mrhillsman | Say one more week? | 15:15 |
| mihalis68 | Two weeks? | 15:15 |
| mihalis68 | snap! | 15:15 |
| mrhillsman | :) | 15:15 |
| mrhillsman | great minds my friend | 15:15 |
| mperazol | sounds reasonable | 15:15 |
| mihalis68 | any other viewpoints? | 15:15 |
| emccormick | I'd let it go to 2/19 I think | 15:16 |
| mihalis68 | #agreed close submissions for Milan Feb 7th | 15:16 |
| mihalis68 | oops | 15:16 |
| emccormick | ok well never mind haha | 15:16 |
| mihalis68 | well what do people think | 15:16 |
| mrhillsman | i'm not against it taking longer | 15:16 |
| emccormick | I don't care so much. I figured 3 weeks was enough for us to get space settled and moderators assigned | 15:16 |
| mrhillsman | we can reshape the agenda accordingly | 15:16 |
| mrhillsman | primary concern i think is confirming space, mods, logistics are in order | 15:17 |
| mihalis68 | it doesn't have to be a hard deadline | 15:17 |
| mrhillsman | agreed | 15:17 |
| mrhillsman | two weeks then | 15:17 |
| mihalis68 | could just be a target date to get peoples minds focused | 15:17 |
| emccormick | +1 | 15:17 |
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| mrhillsman | mihalis68 put to vote? | 15:17 |
| emccormick | Say 2/13 in the email | 15:17 |
| mrhillsman | or we have consensus | 15:17 |
| emccormick | that way it's the day before we meet | 15:17 |
| mihalis68 | I like 2/13 | 15:18 |
| mrhillsman | +1 | 15:18 |
| mihalis68 | any objection? | 15:18 |
| shintaro | +1 | 15:18 |
| raddaoui | +1 | 15:18 |
| mihalis68 | ok | 15:18 |
| mihalis68 | #agreed target close date for submissions 2/13 | 15:18 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to email list with this announcement | 15:18 |
| mihalis68 | any other business for milan today? | 15:18 |
| mihalis68 | I know it's the main focus however the next agenda item is a doozy | 15:19 |
| mihalis68 | #topic move august outside of USA? | 15:19 |
| mihalis68 | can the person who put this on the agenda please explain the suggestion (I can guess...) | 15:19 |
| emccormick | oh dear | 15:19 |
| mihalis68 | if I might I'll explain how we got to the current plan? | 15:20 |
| mrhillsman | what is going on in the news mihalis68 | 15:20 |
| mrhillsman | around travel issues | 15:20 |
| mihalis68 | expected location for 2017 first mid-cycle is "not north america" | 15:20 |
| emccormick | This is to do with the Trump Executive Order | 15:20 |
| mihalis68 | which made the expectation for the second one north america | 15:20 |
| mihalis68 | and we have a hosting proposal | 15:20 |
| mihalis68 | however... yes geopolitical events. I am well aware guys | 15:20 |
| mihalis68 | I wanted the person who put this on the agenda to say it. I think that's fair, no? | 15:21 |
| jproulx | that was me.... | 15:21 |
| mihalis68 | suggestion to move, because Trump, is that right? | 15:22 |
| jproulx | We shoudl address it directly. Too late to change course is a reasonable answer | 15:22 |
| mrhillsman | agreed | 15:22 |
| mrhillsman | just like foundation | 15:22 |
| jproulx | Well because of difficulties community members might experience, but yeah Trump is short version | 15:22 |
| emccormick | Copy / Paste the statement from their blog ;) | 15:22 |
| mrhillsman | The following three OpenStack Summits, however, are now scheduled to occur outside of the United States. | 15:22 |
| mihalis68 | if it needs to be said, totally horrified by this | 15:22 |
| mrhillsman | post Sydney | 15:22 |
| emccormick | I think the odds of this still being a thing by August is small | 15:22 |
| mrhillsman | true | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | emccormick: I sure hope you are right. | 15:23 |
| emccormick | the EO runs out in 90 days or 120 days depending on the person | 15:23 |
| mrhillsman | just something to think about though | 15:23 |
| jproulx | Yeah it impossible to predict August situation which is what makes it hard | 15:23 |
| mihalis68 | I am in favor of keeping going with the intel proposal | 15:23 |
| mrhillsman | yep | 15:23 |
| mihalis68 | speaking personally, not as chair, no intent to lead discussion | 15:23 |
| emccormick | so unless we have Refugee Operators who are trying to move here we should be OK | 15:23 |
| mihalis68 | I think it was right to discuss this | 15:23 |
| emccormick | Could we ask the Intel folks if they happen to have a backup site in Canada just in case? :D | 15:24 |
| mrhillsman | hehe | 15:24 |
| jproulx | Given difficulty of getting proposals I think thats reasonable (stay the course for now), fall back would be what Tokyo but probably too late for that and we had nothing else | 15:24 |
| mihalis68 | agreed on all points | 15:24 |
| mrhillsman | i can check on canada site | 15:24 |
| jproulx | emccormick: taht would be magical :) | 15:24 |
| mihalis68 | let's go somewhere sane like the UK. Oh no, wait... | 15:24 |
| mihalis68 | I would go to canada for the august one, most likely | 15:25 |
| mrhillsman | they may have a vancouver site | 15:25 |
| mihalis68 | if it moved there | 15:25 |
| emccormick | Cuba. Looking good right now | 15:25 |
| mihalis68 | you just want the cigars, I GET IT | 15:25 |
| mrhillsman | lol | 15:25 |
| emccormick | +1 | 15:25 |
| mrhillsman | so we are good to move on? | 15:25 |
| emccormick | and the rum | 15:25 |
| jproulx | +1 move on | 15:26 |
| emccormick | aye | 15:26 |
| mihalis68 | ok | 15:26 |
| mihalis68 | we finished the itinerary items which got written up, but the next obvious one is what work comes next for planning August | 15:26 |
| mihalis68 | the location will be oregon, is that correct? | 15:27 |
| mrhillsman | we are cool with locking down a wg/small room for uc at mid-cycle? | 15:27 |
| mrhillsman | i need to report back yay or nay | 15:27 |
| emccormick | +1 for UC | 15:27 |
| mihalis68 | are you our defacto intel point of contact then mrhillsman? | 15:27 |
| mrhillsman | i am | 15:27 |
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| * mrhillsman raises benevolent hand cautiously | 15:28 | |
| mihalis68 | are you up for being the official benevolent dictator of the process of planning oregon? | 15:28 |
| mrhillsman | indeed | 15:28 |
| mihalis68 | works for me - everyone else? | 15:29 |
| jproulx | +1 | 15:29 |
| emccormick | +1 | 15:29 |
| nishpatwa007 | +1 | 15:29 |
| mihalis68 | #agreed mrhillsman is benevolent dictator of the task of planning oregon (2017 2nd mid-cycle meet up) | 15:29 |
| shintaro | +1 | 15:29 |
| mihalis68 | it seems to me that this event is pretty much locked in now, then. I don't recall if we made it official in the minutes that this and no other is the 2nd mid-cycle event - oregon, intel, mrhillsman | 15:30 |
| mihalis68 | any objection to that statement? | 15:31 |
| mrhillsman | none | 15:31 |
| emccormick | nyet | 15:31 |
| shintaro | no | 15:31 |
| emccormick | Do we have a city? Or is that TBD by Intel? | 15:31 |
| mihalis68 | there were two venue possibilities last I saw, both Oregon IIRC | 15:31 |
| emccormick | I'm assuming Portland for ease but I thought there was a second place possible close by | 15:31 |
| mihalis68 | I think we know it's in that state, so far | 15:32 |
| mrhillsman | we are looking at downtown portland | 15:32 |
| mrhillsman | or hillsboro | 15:32 |
| mihalis68 | are they fairly close? | 15:32 |
| mrhillsman | if anyone wants to be part of the email thread let me know | 15:32 |
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| mrhillsman | i think i sent it to everyone | 15:32 |
| mihalis68 | for example same airport for international travelers (or east coasters)? | 15:32 |
| mrhillsman | we are meeting again on 2/10 | 15:32 |
| mrhillsman | supposedly there is a lot going on in portland during that time | 15:33 |
| mihalis68 | portland has more buzz in my mind | 15:33 |
| mihalis68 | but if they are close does the difference matter at this distance? (i.e. > 6 months out) | 15:33 |
| emccormick | OH I see. Hillsboro is at least Portland-adjacent | 15:33 |
| mrhillsman | trying to consider transit as well | 15:34 |
| emccormick | makes no difference then. Just say "Portland" and leave it at that | 15:34 |
| mrhillsman | airport to downtown has a direct shot | 15:34 |
| mihalis68 | ok. Think we are agreed | 15:34 |
| mrhillsman | but will have details after the 10th for arguing about hehe | 15:34 |
| mihalis68 | #agreed 2nd 2017 mid-cycle is decided to be intel-hosted, portland area, august | 15:34 |
| emccormick | Poor bastards flying to DC and coming to Washington-Dulles are 30 miles out of the city. Same difference ;) | 15:34 |
| mrhillsman | just kidding about the arguing btw | 15:35 |
| mrhillsman | unless anyone wants to | 15:35 |
| mrhillsman | anyways | 15:35 |
| mrhillsman | next? | 15:35 |
| mihalis68 | #info current geopolitical instability wrt travelers to usa was noted, but too late to redo entire location and host process | 15:35 |
| mihalis68 | we reached end of itinerary. If Tom were available, I had been hoping we could talk tooling | 15:37 |
| mrhillsman | anything else for the day? | 15:37 |
| mrhillsman | we can send him an email mihalis68 | 15:37 |
| mihalis68 | as regulars know, i think we could do better than this mishmash of IRC, email, ether pad, google doc | 15:37 |
| mrhillsman | fifieldt you around? | 15:37 |
| mihalis68 | and tom had said "yes I have ideas" | 15:37 |
| mihalis68 | but that is as far as it went | 15:37 |
| mihalis68 | tom seems to be unavailable | 15:38 |
| mrhillsman | ok | 15:38 |
| mihalis68 | a good chairman closes a meeting early when done | 15:38 |
| mrhillsman | you can action me to email him | 15:38 |
| mihalis68 | I think we may be there | 15:38 |
| mrhillsman | agreed | 15:38 |
| mihalis68 | #action mrhillsman to email tom re: tooling of meet ups team | 15:38 |
| mihalis68 | is that what you meant? | 15:38 |
| mrhillsman | will cc you | 15:38 |
| mrhillsman | yep | 15:38 |
| mihalis68 | very good | 15:38 |
| emccormick | +1 EOM | 15:38 |
| mrhillsman | +1 | 15:38 |
| mihalis68 | ok I'll give it like one more minute | 15:38 |
| mihalis68 | any more for any more? | 15:38 |
| shintaro | +1 | 15:39 |
| mrhillsman | nada | 15:39 |
| mihalis68 | #endmeeting | 15:39 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 31 15:39:10 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-01-31-15.03.html | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-01-31-15.03.txt | 15:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-01-31-15.03.log.html | 15:39 |
| mrhillsman | thx everyone! | 15:39 |
| mihalis68 | thanks to all who made this meeting | 15:39 |
| mrhillsman | make it a great day! | 15:39 |
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| emccormick | have a good week | 15:39 |
| mihalis68 | best wishes to all in these ... uncertain ... times | 15:39 |
| jproulx | Thanks all | 15:39 |
| shewless | what do you guys talk about in these ops meetings? | 15:41 |
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| mrhillsman | shewless we focus on mid-cycle/summit planning | 15:43 |
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| mrhillsman | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ops_Meetups_Team | 15:44 |
| zioproto | mihalis68, yes I did spam the ScientificWG :) sorry I missed the meeting | 15:44 |
| mihalis68 | no probelm | 15:45 |
| mihalis68 | it was brief and poorly attended :| | 15:45 |
| mihalis68 | so you did not miss much | 15:45 |
| mihalis68 | we agreed some interesting things though | 15:45 |
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| mihalis68 | e.g. briefly considering trying to move august meeting due to the situation in the USA right now | 15:45 |
| mihalis68 | but it feels way too late to redo region choice and re-ask for hosts | 15:46 |
| emccormick | shewless: IN the meeting here or the in person one we are planning? | 15:46 |
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| zioproto | anyone that is coming to Milano has experience with Kolla ? | 15:59 |
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| zioproto | mihalis68, I read now the logs | 16:01 |
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| shewless | emccormick: the in person one | 16:09 |
| shewless | Just curious how the operations team contributes to openstack in general. I'm interested in this space and I'm impressed in general with the knowledge I see specifically on this IRC channel. | 16:10 |
| mihalis68 | We fill the time with a lot of topic specific working groups where there's a moderator but it's intended to be a group discussion and we dump findings in etherpads | 16:10 |
| mihalis68 | there's a few lightning talks | 16:10 |
| mihalis68 | so a general session on containerization, on ceph, on nova, on scaling etc | 16:11 |
| shewless | now I need to google what an etherpad is.. as well as "lighning talk" :) | 16:11 |
| mihalis68 | and lightning talks on interesting new things, or war stories (exciting things to try, or disastrous things to avoid) | 16:11 |
| shewless | awesome | 16:11 |
| mihalis68 | ether pad is a shared online document you can collaborate on | 16:12 |
| mihalis68 | here's the one we use for topics for the Milan session : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-meetup | 16:12 |
| shewless | Is there a good way (maybe baby steps) for myself and my colleague to get involved and to contribute? | 16:12 |
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| mihalis68 | you're welcome to come to the meeting here on Tuesdays, 15:00 UTC | 16:13 |
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| shewless | "here" as in on this channel in IRC I assume? | 16:14 |
| mihalis68 | yes | 16:15 |
| mihalis68 | here's a wiki page about the meet ups team : https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ops_Meetups_Team | 16:15 |
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| mihalis68 | and there is an openstack-operators mailing list : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators | 16:16 |
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| shewless | mihalis68 thanks! | 16:24 |
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| mihalis68 | you are most welcome | 16:30 |
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