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openstackgerrit | Jake Yip proposed openstack/osops-tools-generic master: Remove compute_node_stats from list of tables to manage https://review.openstack.org/436319 | 06:11 |
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zioproto | hello there | 13:00 |
zioproto | is eveyone at the PTG, or we have some people here ? :) | 13:01 |
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zioproto | just wondering if my cloud is super slow, or if `openstack server list` can take up to 5 seconds for anyone | 13:02 |
zioproto | having just 3 instances in my tenant | 13:02 |
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yankcrime | zioproto: does your user have an admin role assigned by any chance? | 14:10 |
zioproto | yankcrime, no | 14:11 |
yankcrime | zioproto: i've definitely seen nova's api become laggy due to stale data in the db that needs purging | 14:12 |
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yankcrime | not sure if that's the problem in your case or not, but might be one avenue for investigation | 14:12 |
zioproto | well, if I use curl to list servers or to get a token | 14:14 |
zioproto | I always get reasonable response time | 14:14 |
zioproto | like 200ms | 14:14 |
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zioproto | but the openstack client and horizon are really slow | 14:14 |
yankcrime | add --debug to the client, is it hitting any other uris that might account for why it's slow? | 14:14 |
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nicodemus_ | hello | 14:39 |
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nicodemus_ | does anybody know if windows server 2016 is supported in KVM? I'm only seeing it supported on Hyper-V platforms... | 14:39 |
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mihalis68 | anyone around who will be in the OS operators meetup in 15 minutes? | 14:46 |
mihalis68 | meetup team meeting | 14:46 |
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yankcrime | mihalis68: yeah i'll be in attendance today - which channel is it in? | 14:46 |
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yankcrime | (not that i'm a part of the meetup team but i was going to tag along anyway...) | 14:46 |
mihalis68 | this channel. I normally make every one but am on vacation today and can't really do it | 14:46 |
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yankcrime | ah righto | 14:46 |
mihalis68 | just here now to send apologies | 14:46 |
mihalis68 | I see fifieldt is here now, so we're in good hands! :) | 14:47 |
yankcrime | :) | 14:47 |
fifieldt | provided the thin glass tubes linking me to this machine stay alive, all good :) | 14:48 |
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mrhillsman | morning folks | 14:48 |
yankcrime | o/ | 14:49 |
fifieldt | moaning | 14:49 |
mrhillsman | surely your machine is not that bad you have to moan about it fifieldt | 14:49 |
fifieldt | fifieldt@docwork2:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model | tail -n 1 | 14:50 |
fifieldt | model name: AMD Opteron 62xx class CPU | 14:50 |
yankcrime | nice, quite the vintage | 14:51 |
fifieldt | the killer is the latency to where I am actually sitting | 14:51 |
fifieldt | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 224.039/225.220/226.065/0.795 ms | 14:51 |
yankcrime | somewhere exotic i hope? | 14:52 |
mrhillsman | :( | 14:52 |
yankcrime | lol | 14:52 |
mrhillsman | i hope as well | 14:52 |
mrhillsman | then the latency is worth it | 14:52 |
fifieldt | I'm at home :P | 14:52 |
yankcrime | nothing that mosh can't help with! ;) | 14:52 |
fifieldt | problem is, ISP didn't do a good job keeping their IP space clean ... freenode's gone and blocked 'em | 14:52 |
fifieldt | <3 mosh | 14:53 |
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fifieldt | how are you all? | 14:53 |
yankcrime | i'm good | 14:54 |
yankcrime | getting excited about milan \o/ | 14:54 |
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mrhillsman | doing good as well | 14:54 |
fifieldt | win :) going to tack on a day or two ? :) | 14:54 |
yankcrime | yup | 14:54 |
mrhillsman | same here | 14:55 |
yankcrime | i'll be arriving on sunday, then flying back on the friday | 14:55 |
mrhillsman | though not much, coming in a day early | 14:55 |
fifieldt | lucky you :) | 14:55 |
yankcrime | if anyone's arround for beers then shout | 14:55 |
mrhillsman | same | 14:55 |
mrhillsman | but will be attending pwg midcycle | 14:55 |
fifieldt | I'll be in on sunday prior too - for the same reason | 14:55 |
fifieldt | airport friday | 14:55 |
rockyg | I haven't made arrangements yet, but sounds like I should get in by Sunday afternoon :-) | 14:56 |
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mrhillsman | surely we can grab a refreshment or two in spite of :) | 14:56 |
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fifieldt | hi shintaro | 14:57 |
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shintaro | hi fifildt | 14:58 |
shintaro | fifieldt! | 14:58 |
fifieldt | how are you sir? | 14:58 |
mrhillsman | just want to thank you folks who are up late to accommodate this meeting | 14:58 |
shintaro | sleepy ;) | 14:58 |
fifieldt | mrhillsman: btw, check out : https://www.openstack.org/foundation/user-committee/ | 14:58 |
mrhillsman | nice :) | 14:59 |
rockyg | oh, yeah, Congrats mrhillsman !!! | 14:59 |
shintaro | congrats! | 14:59 |
mrhillsman | thanks! | 14:59 |
mrhillsman | #startmeeting Ops Meetup Team | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 21 15:00:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mrhillsman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 15:00 |
izaakk | o/ | 15:00 |
VW | o/ | 15:00 |
raddaoui | o/ | 15:00 |
shintaro | o/ | 15:01 |
mrhillsman | hey everyone, thanks for joining | 15:01 |
fifieldt | o/ | 15:01 |
mrhillsman | Agenda #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 15:01 |
mrhillsman | #topic Review last week's action items | 15:01 |
mrhillsman | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-02-14-15.01.html | 15:01 |
emccormick | o/ | 15:02 |
mrhillsman | i still need to get feedback from Rackspace on evening event | 15:02 |
shintaro | I've updated the agenda for Milano | 15:02 |
fifieldt | I emailed mariano the discount codes | 15:02 |
fifieldt | and updated the eventbrite to list all the sponsors I knew of | 15:02 |
izaakk | shintaro: +2 | 15:03 |
fifieldt | I saw mihalis68 did send the email to the oppos list | 15:03 |
mrhillsman | awesome, yep, saw that as well | 15:03 |
fifieldt | I saw mariano did email sponsors | 15:03 |
mrhillsman | also emccormick sent an email | 15:03 |
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emccormick | aye. twas done | 15:04 |
mrhillsman | cool, so looks like we are caught up | 15:04 |
mrhillsman | anything missing from last week's items? | 15:04 |
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mrhillsman | i don't think my eyes are lying to me | 15:04 |
fifieldt | looks good | 15:04 |
mrhillsman | moving on to Mila | 15:04 |
mrhillsman | Milan | 15:05 |
mrhillsman | #topic Milan | 15:05 |
mrhillsman | so looks like we need to keep bugging folks to register | 15:05 |
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fifieldt | mrhillsman: I think a key thing some people are waiting for is the draft agenda :) | 15:05 |
mrhillsman | did we get any communications directly to user groups in close proximity to Milan | 15:05 |
fifieldt | I vaguely remember reg shoots up after that is out | 15:05 |
mrhillsman | ah ok | 15:05 |
emccormick | that 71 includes no sponsor people, right? | 15:06 |
mrhillsman | Milan Agenda #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=2006054635 | 15:06 |
fifieldt | mrhillsman: great minds think alike - I looked up the group today ... don't think we've pinged them yet ... which si a good idea ./.. but I saw mariano is an organiser :) | 15:06 |
emccormick | or is that total? | 15:06 |
fifieldt | emccormick: no sponsor codes given out so far | 15:06 |
fifieldt | but some of the Enter folks kindly paid their way | 15:06 |
fifieldt | on the whole, scanning the list, loks like solid openstack cloud ops :) | 15:07 |
mrhillsman | nice | 15:07 |
mrhillsman | fifieldt you want to ping the user group(s) in the area, i can otherwise | 15:07 |
mrhillsman | unless someone else wants to :) | 15:07 |
fifieldt | since Mariano isn't here, guess we shoukld | 15:07 |
fifieldt | https://www.meetup.com/OpenStack-User-Group-Italia/ | 15:07 |
fifieldt | http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-it | 15:08 |
mrhillsman | awesome | 15:08 |
mrhillsman | any takers? | 15:08 |
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mrhillsman | #action mrhillsman reach out to local Milan usergroup | 15:09 |
mrhillsman | so regarding the agenda | 15:09 |
mrhillsman | i see structure is good, thx shintaro and izaakk | 15:09 |
mrhillsman | but there are some holes | 15:10 |
mrhillsman | so we definitely need to fill and get out to ML yes? | 15:10 |
VW | si | 15:10 |
mrhillsman | could very well be my fault but i think there was 4 of us to do that | 15:10 |
mrhillsman | and i was supposed to send an email | 15:11 |
mrhillsman | can we do that this week because Enter has to get things started for printing on 3/3 | 15:12 |
fifieldt | sometimes having a less-than-perfect schedule sent out to the ML is a good way to find the ways of making it perfect :) | 15:12 |
mrhillsman | right on | 15:12 |
VW | agreed | 15:12 |
mrhillsman | any volunteers? | 15:13 |
emccormick | Just send it out as is? | 15:14 |
mrhillsman | yeah | 15:14 |
emccormick | I can send it out. Just say it's a draft agenda? | 15:14 |
yankcrime | i think it'd be worth just sending out something that states what we're definitely looking to cover, along with maybe a draft agenda | 15:14 |
fifieldt | basically it involves copy/pasting the spreadsheet into an email, and/or linking to the google doc, with some text that explains the ops meetup and ask for feedback | 15:14 |
mrhillsman | and i am guessing just state we are rounding out the last bits | 15:14 |
mrhillsman | cool | 15:14 |
mrhillsman | #action emccormick send agenda as is to ML | 15:15 |
fifieldt | Matt, Nick and myself took some time to take our suggestions from the etherpad and attempted to wrangle them into something that would fit in the space we have over 2 days. | 15:15 |
fifieldt | As a reminder, we have two different kind of sessions - eneral Sessions, which are discussions for the operator community aimed to produce actions (eg best practices, feedback on badness), and Working groups focus on specific topics aiming to make concrete progress on tasks in that area. As always, some stuff has been munged and mangled in an attempt to fit it in so please take a look at the below and reply with | 15:15 |
fifieldt | ^ there's some text | 15:15 |
* yankcrime nods | 15:15 | |
mrhillsman | awesome | 15:15 |
mrhillsman | anything else on Milan? | 15:15 |
mrhillsman | #topic Fall Midcycle | 15:16 |
fifieldt | or spring, for the southern hemisphere :P | 15:17 |
emccormick | TY fifieldt | 15:17 |
mrhillsman | izaakk and i spoke this week, he got in touch with the folks at Intel's Guadalajara office | 15:17 |
mrhillsman | fifieldt you're right :) | 15:17 |
mrhillsman | #topic Mid-year Midcycle | 15:18 |
fifieldt | emccormick: just fwd'd you that entire email for your reference | 15:18 |
* VW thinks fifieldt plans his travel so it's always Spring where ever he is | 15:18 | |
mrhillsman | we simply have to provide them something that explains the benefit of them hosting | 15:18 |
emccormick | fifieldt: Thanks! | 15:18 |
mrhillsman | they are really big in HPC field | 15:18 |
mrhillsman | which brought about something that we may have to table | 15:19 |
mrhillsman | having a theme for the Midcycle | 15:19 |
fifieldt | VW - being able to select seasons = worth it :) | 15:19 |
VW | yeah - that's probably a big debate | 15:19 |
mrhillsman | while not cutting sessions that are not part of the theme | 15:19 |
fifieldt | ooh, HPC themed midcycle? | 15:19 |
mrhillsman | or any other theme | 15:19 |
fifieldt | we should get Flanders and SciWG in here | 15:19 |
mrhillsman | but going that direction with the Midcycle | 15:20 |
mrhillsman | so when in a particular region | 15:20 |
mrhillsman | we discussed that maybe it will help attract folks from the region/area | 15:20 |
mrhillsman | as well as get local hosts/sponsors to be more inclined to assist | 15:21 |
mrhillsman | but again, not cut out other topics/sessions | 15:21 |
VW | but will it turn folks away too? | 15:21 |
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mrhillsman | quite possible VW but i do not think it is impossible not to either way | 15:22 |
VW | fair enough | 15:22 |
izaakk | We can do like the usual, just add a panel and 1 session about the local interest | 15:22 |
fifieldt | I have one data point. Over in Australia, they held an OpenStack Day in a particular city that's basically a Government town. They themed it up as government and it worked quite well. Probably got 30% extra folks they wouldn't normally get from the particular sector | 15:22 |
mrhillsman | but agree that it would be good to go with the one that does the least harm | 15:22 |
VW | I just want to make sure we honor or intent to make the mid-cycles a way to get operators engaged with the community - especially if they never have any other way | 15:23 |
mrhillsman | so we can table it i think but would like to definitely discuss | 15:23 |
shintaro | yeah Australia Gov day seemed interesting | 15:23 |
fifieldt | +1 VW | 15:23 |
mrhillsman | +1 VW and that was part of the discussion | 15:24 |
mrhillsman | if we were in Guadalajara, they are big on HPC | 15:24 |
mrhillsman | so having a high focus/encouragment on HPC while not forcing out other stuff is the hope of the discussion | 15:24 |
mrhillsman | if possible | 15:24 |
emccormick | if we were going to do the themed thing, we might have to go put the hard sell on a few people to come that might not otherwise | 15:24 |
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mrhillsman | but let's table it | 15:25 |
mrhillsman | that is the update from Mexico as potential host | 15:25 |
emccormick | like if it's Sci / HPC, we'd probably want to nag Tim Bell and maybe the one with the big telescopes from the last summit | 15:25 |
fifieldt | I guess one critical thing in thinking about this is the local knowledge - we'd be looking to the potential host to provide the information about what the region is like and what is likely to attract/distract local folks | 15:25 |
yankcrime | a good thing to do would be to try and tease out operational issues that the hpc community might have solved or have experience of that would help other operators | 15:25 |
mrhillsman | ^ | 15:25 |
fifieldt | The other thing you can do is have different communications to different segments. Tricky, but doable | 15:25 |
shintaro | few dedicated sessions or track for the local ops would be great | 15:25 |
yankcrime | so on one hand you have it slightly hpc themed, but in a way that's applicable and useful to all | 15:25 |
mrhillsman | so seems like this is a great discussion to have | 15:26 |
mrhillsman | will hopefully provide an update about Mexico next week from Intel side | 15:26 |
mrhillsman | looking at the time, any other questions about Mid-year? | 15:27 |
emccormick | move along | 15:27 |
mrhillsman | #topic Boston Forum | 15:28 |
fifieldt | I left some notes on the etherpad here | 15:28 |
mrhillsman | fifieldt ... | 15:28 |
mrhillsman | yep, anything outside of that? | 15:28 |
fifieldt | would recommend http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-forum/ if you've not read it | 15:28 |
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fifieldt | but basically, as written, we're doing etherpads for topic brainstorming | 15:29 |
mrhillsman | Forum Overview #link http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-forum/ | 15:29 |
fifieldt | just like we've done for all the ops meetups | 15:29 |
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fifieldt | However, aim at the forum is to be a neutral place | 15:29 |
fifieldt | so we want to get topics that are of interest to all kinds of community member | 15:29 |
fifieldt | really looking to this group for help to get some amazing sessions written up | 15:30 |
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mrhillsman | that article helps explain it very well fifieldt thx for that, read it yesterday | 15:30 |
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fifieldt | The brainstorming will run from Feb 27 for 2 weeks | 15:30 |
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fifieldt | In theory, during this time, we're +1/-1ing things like crazy | 15:30 |
fifieldt | and gaining community consensus | 15:30 |
fifieldt | then the best ones will have abstracts written up, moderators chosen and that submitted more formally | 15:30 |
fifieldt | how's that sounding so far? | 15:31 |
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emccormick | +1 | 15:31 |
mrhillsman | +1 | 15:31 |
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mrhillsman | anything else on the Boston Forum folks? | 15:32 |
fifieldt | well, no immediate rage, that's relieving :) | 15:32 |
mrhillsman | :) | 15:32 |
zioproto | hello | 15:32 |
mrhillsman | hey zioproto | 15:32 |
zioproto | I just arrived now at they keyboard | 15:32 |
shintaro | do we have ops meetup in Boston? or just Forum? | 15:32 |
fifieldt | just the Forum | 15:32 |
mrhillsman | just Forum | 15:32 |
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shintaro | ok | 15:32 |
mrhillsman | moving on :) | 15:33 |
fifieldt | I see it as our job to make sure there's enough content in the Forum that's interesting for ops that this is OK | 15:33 |
fifieldt | maybe even more content than the Ops meetup in the past :) | 15:33 |
fifieldt | we should be able to do a lot more, considering the key developers are now more freely available to chat with us ^_^ | 15:33 |
fifieldt | it's a big change, and I'm happy to take any private questions or concerns via email too | 15:34 |
mrhillsman | sweet, thx fifieldt | 15:34 |
zioproto | sorry for arriving late. For Milano I went on meetup.com and I wrote to the organizers of the Italian Openstack Meetup to ask to spam their stackers about the event. I had no response. I did the same for switzerland, and I know emails there have been sent out. Anyone that has contacts like this in Europe should do the same :) | 15:34 |
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mrhillsman | thx zioproto | 15:35 |
mrhillsman | we were discussing that earlier | 15:35 |
mrhillsman | you did that this past week? | 15:35 |
zioproto | yes I did it about last wednesday | 15:35 |
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zioproto | how many people are registered ? | 15:36 |
fifieldt | 71 | 15:36 |
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mrhillsman | emccormick is going to send the agenda out so maybe that will encourage folks to signup/register and give feedback | 15:36 |
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zioproto | #action saverio subscribe to http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-it and write an email there | 15:37 |
zioproto | the meetup group I have already done it but I had not response | 15:37 |
mrhillsman | ty sir | 15:37 |
mrhillsman | #topic Regional event discussions | 15:37 |
fifieldt | added this here, becuase I thought we could talk about how to better support (smaller?) ops events alongside other things such as OpenStack days | 15:39 |
fifieldt | no real thoughts yet, was seeking feelings from others | 15:39 |
fifieldt | one such example is the success in Japan | 15:39 |
emccormick | How did you go about getting the ops track stuff strapped on to it? | 15:40 |
shintaro | As for the Tokyo Day, we have not started any discussions yet :) | 15:40 |
emccormick | They're doing the Openstack East thing again this year. In DC this time, tentatively 8/22 - 8/23 | 15:40 |
fifieldt | understood :) For context, in the past, there was an ops event in Tokyo next to OpenStack day, and also one in Okinawa | 15:40 |
shintaro | We have one dedicated room for Ops | 15:40 |
shintaro | for two days | 15:40 |
emccormick | That's the thing that was in town when our midcycle was NYC | 15:40 |
mrhillsman | ^ | 15:41 |
emccormick | shintaro: Did it run like our midcycles, or is it more presentation oriented? | 15:41 |
yankcrime | hmm, interesting - i'm helping to organise the next openstack days uk, i'll take that into consideration - especially as we wanted to introduce some more 'hand-on' stuff into the agenda | 15:42 |
shintaro | try to follow the same style and went really good | 15:42 |
shintaro | we have long list of etherpad | 15:42 |
mrhillsman | just throwing this out there | 15:43 |
mrhillsman | shintaro did you all follow-up on the etherpads | 15:43 |
mrhillsman | like were they there - from previous mid-cycle - and you all commented/discussed | 15:43 |
mrhillsman | totally new stuff | 15:43 |
mrhillsman | or mix of both | 15:43 |
shintaro | we've listed our own agenda but basically similar topics from mid-cycles | 15:45 |
mrhillsman | or etherpads collected from more than just ops mid-cycle; things you all chose to talk about | 15:45 |
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mrhillsman | got it | 15:45 |
shintaro | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/JP-Ops-workshop | 15:45 |
shintaro | this was the very first one | 15:45 |
emccormick | I will ping the Openstack East guys about trying to set something up there. | 15:46 |
mrhillsman | nice | 15:46 |
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shintaro | the second one was more active #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/JP-Ops-workshop-2 | 15:46 |
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mrhillsman | do we want to work on developing a process / workflow around this? | 15:47 |
emccormick | Well, we talked about codifying our process on a Wiki at one time. If we had that to share, we should be able to point folks at it. | 15:49 |
mrhillsman | nothing overly strict but some high level plan of action to present to the OSDs leaders | 15:49 |
mrhillsman | cool | 15:49 |
emccormick | and offer a minion from this WG to attend an occasional meeting to help. Like fifieldt does for us plebes ;) | 15:49 |
mrhillsman | agreed | 15:50 |
mrhillsman | anything else for the day? | 15:50 |
shintaro | having some common topics to discuss in local ops would be great | 15:50 |
mrhillsman | 10 minutes left | 15:50 |
mrhillsman | i think that will help mid-cycles in the long run as well | 15:51 |
mrhillsman | s/that/this | 15:51 |
emccormick | We do tend to have a lot of repeat sessions that should suit. Deployment, Logging, Monitoring, Neutron Sucks, etc. | 15:51 |
mrhillsman | i c what you did there | 15:51 |
emccormick | A list of topic ideas could go on the wiki | 15:51 |
mrhillsman | definitely | 15:52 |
emccormick | ;) | 15:52 |
shintaro | +1 | 15:52 |
mrhillsman | lots of stuff covered today | 15:52 |
mrhillsman | anything else folks | 15:52 |
fifieldt | sleep | 15:53 |
mrhillsman | +1 | 15:53 |
shintaro | +1 | 15:53 |
emccormick | +1 | 15:53 |
mrhillsman | alright, going to end it | 15:53 |
mrhillsman | thanks all for attending and for the great discussions | 15:53 |
mrhillsman | #endmeeting | 15:53 |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 21 15:53:36 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:53 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-02-21-15.00.html | 15:53 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-02-21-15.00.txt | 15:53 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-02-21-15.00.log.html | 15:53 |
shintaro | thanks | 15:53 |
mrhillsman | be sure to follow-up via the ML for anything | 15:54 |
mrhillsman | got to run to a meeting...rest well othersideoftheworlders | 15:54 |
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zioproto | mail sent http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-it/2017-February/000074.html | 15:57 |
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klindgren | Is anyone here running ovs 2.5.1 in a bond with LACP enabled and mode: balance-slb - Having issues with intermittent connectivity? | 17:35 |
klindgren | Even better if you are are using it against Cisco Nexus 3k switches :-D | 17:36 |
klindgren | Having an issue where in that mode after upgrading OVS, we periodically get issues where the gateway does not respond to pings/arp or pass traffic. | 17:37 |
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mriedem | for anyone at the ptg we're talking about hierarchical quotas in georgia 4 on level 1 | 20:04 |
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mriedem | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ptg-hierarchical-quotas | 20:06 |
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