Tuesday, 2017-05-23

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esnyderhello, i'm wondering if anyone has experience with adjusting the swift client_timeout setting up from the default of 60 seconds? I have a little test program that lets me trigger the 'ERROR Client read timeout' when I take > client_timeout seconds to send next chunk of data. But when I increase it (say, from 60 to 300), and then run my test program with an01:27
esnyderartificial delay of 61 seconds, say, I encounter a different error.01:27
esnyderit looks like something out of the HTTP(S)Connection in the swift/proxy/controllers/obj.py Putter connection01:28
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notmynameesnyder: might be that the proxy<->object connection is timing out (ie the object server does the timeout01:29
notmynameesnyder: I just got home and am about to go do dinner, but you might be able to get some good help in #openstack-swift01:30
esnydernotmyname: cool, thanks01:30
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esnyderit is definitely the proxy <-> object connection that is the issue, but from digging in the code i can't see any way to modify the timeout in the connection object itself. i'll check the swift channel, thanks01:31
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mriedemdo your users ask for the ability to update existing keypairs in nova?13:45
mriedemusing PUT?13:45
mriedemopenstack infra is asking for this13:45
mriedemknowing that if you update a keypair it will not be propagated to existing guests using that keypair13:46
mriedemwhich could be confusing13:46
mriedemsimilar to how we don't have PUT for flavors13:46
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mihalis68who is around for the ops meet up team meeting in a couple of minutes?14:58
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mihalis68anyone around?15:00
VWI am online mihalis68- but my boss relocated his staff meeting to this time slot every Tuesday, so I will do what I can until we can get a survey out and see if there is a more preferred tiem15:00
mihalis68the survey was posted by David Medberry : https://beta.doodle.com/poll/bccipuc8kfm36xna#table15:01
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mihalis68#startmeeting Ops Meetup Team15:01
openstackMeeting started Tue May 23 15:01:49 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'15:01
mihalis68hello everyone15:01
mihalis68we once again have a low attendance again :|15:02
shintarohi15:02
mihalis68David Medberry posted a Doodle poll to ask people what time slot would work better15:02
mihalis68#link https://beta.doodle.com/poll/bccipuc8kfm36xna#table15:02
mihalis68can everyone please respond to the poll so that we can get this meeting to a time slot that works15:02
mihalis68hello shintaro!15:02
shintarohi mihalis6815:03
mihalis68Agenda for today's meeting is here as usual : #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team15:03
mihalis68please add your name to the Attendees15:03
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shintarowhen is the poll due?15:05
emccormickgood morning all15:05
mihalis68David said he would report results today at this meeting15:05
mihalis68however I don't see him here15:05
mihalis68hi mccormick!15:06
mihalis68We seem to have an attendance of about 3.5 (VW has his attention half on this at best)15:06
mihalis68I was hoping that a few more would turn up here15:07
emccormickI"m pinging William to see if I can get him here15:07
mihalis68if not we don't really have quorum to decide anything15:07
mihalis68perhaps we need to take the time-slot discussion to email. It's almost chicken and egg - can't meet to decide when to meet because can't make time slot15:08
shintaro+115:09
emccormickwell Dave did send it out that way, but certainly some nagging would be good15:09
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emccormickWilliam is coming15:09
emccormickand there he is15:09
mihalis68hello wvera15:09
wverahi15:10
mihalis68on the positive side, I saw Edgar emailing the list about arrangements for mexico city15:10
mihalis68he's not here right now either15:10
shintaroso that one is for local arrangement, right?15:10
emccormickwvera: Agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team15:10
mihalis68ok. It's 10 minutes past. I propose we agree that the time slot issue has to be resolved via email, since many of the team members can't make this regular slot. Agreed?15:11
shintaro+115:11
mihalis68o/15:11
mihalis68any objections?15:11
VW+115:12
med_\o late15:12
med_mihalis68, agreed completely15:12
med_the one hour earlier slot was selected15:12
med_I'm going to make that official on the doodle poll15:12
med_and send out an email15:12
emccormick+115:12
emccormickah15:12
mihalis6814:00 etc?15:12
mihalis68UTC (which is what I typed)15:12
mihalis68Ok this is good then15:13
mihalis68#action med_ to email the list with results of the Doodle poll15:13
med_ack.15:13
wvera+115:13
mihalis68#info selected time slot appears to be 14:00 UTC15:13
mihalis68but david will make it official15:14
mihalis68works for me15:14
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shintaro+115:14
emccormick+115:14
mihalis68good.15:14
mihalis68#topic action items15:14
mihalis68I just reviewed action items. They seem to all predate the boston meet-up, so I am not aware of any important outstanding items15:14
mihalis68unless anyone wants to bring some up15:15
med_8am MDT aka 14:00 UTC15:15
med_(final doodle poll selection time)15:15
mihalis68whoo!15:15
mihalis68anything to get the team back together15:15
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mihalis68so next agenda item si15:16
mihalis68#topic mexico city mid-cycle arrangements15:16
mihalis68wvera how is that going?15:16
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mihalis68the only doc I am aware of is : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NdMCOTPP_ZmeF2Ak1mQB1bCOFHDkA5P2l6n6kdb8Kls/edit#heading=h.i84u164j2gow15:16
mihalis68unless there's an ether pad specific to the DCC event?15:17
emccormickDidn't you say you saw some thread with emagana discussing some progress?15:18
emccormickI was just looking around and didn't see it.15:18
emaganahey there!15:18
mihalis68hey!15:19
emaganaYes, I sent a request to have a meeting every week with the organizing team.15:19
mihalis68yes there's some chat on the email thread "August ops mid cycle" e.g. discussion of a chat for it15:19
mihalis68it's an old thread, maybe buried in your client15:19
emaganaSo far, we have the dates and the place. One of the requirements is to give a "course" on OpenStack to have the place for free15:19
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mihalis68emagana should we start an ether pad for this event now DCC is selected?15:20
emaganaI did already15:20
mihalis68ah ok, can you share the link?15:20
emaganamihalis68: This is it: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEX-ops-meetup15:20
mihalis68thank you!15:20
med_emagana, "course" intro? Overview? How long does it need to be?15:20
mihalis68does DCC have a written statement of what this course would need to include?15:20
emaganaI am working on more details. I was looking for some kind of guidelines for organizers15:20
emaganafor instance, example letters to request budget15:21
med_mihalis68 wrote the book on that.15:21
emccormickwe have that15:21
emaganaI meant "sponsors"15:21
emccormickhehe15:21
med_unles I'm mixing my nicks up15:21
emaganamihalis68: Yes, the document for the course will be given to me today15:21
emaganamihalis68: where do you have that book?15:22
mihalis68I'm sure the community can come up with an instructor for this course15:22
emaganamihalis68: I already volunteer myself. I did this in the past15:22
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mihalis68ah very good!15:22
emaganaI will cover it.. no worry about the course but I need help on how to request for sponsorship15:22
mihalis68what other services besides space and wifi can DCC offer? Badges? Signs? Registration?15:22
mihalis68Can they organize catering if we find someone to pay?15:23
emaganamihalis68: That is exactly what I am looking for, some kind of guidelines or document where I can check mark what we have and what we need15:23
mihalis68requesting sponsorship is reasonably easy, and even finding people willing to pay. Getting the money transferred is the very very difficult bit15:23
emaganamihalis68: The companies that I have in mind, the have offices in Mexico City15:24
med_xlnt15:24
mihalis68it seems to work out easiest if sponsors can pay the venue directly15:24
emaganaIt should be easier that way15:24
mihalis68we have explored the openstack foundation helping out there, they cannot15:24
mihalis68so if the venue can do food, signs, badges, registration, I'm sure we can get people to pay them for those thigns15:25
mihalis68i think tom said that lunch is expected to be provided, and breakfast is a nice to have too15:25
mihalis68it is so much simpler for attendees to just turn up for the day and get fed15:25
med_yep15:26
mihalis68so I guess an urgent thing would be decide whether to try to get both provided and then find a sponsor for that15:26
mihalis68who is the person who talks to the venue for such questions?15:26
emccormickemagana: There's lots of goo in here farther down the page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups15:26
emaganamihalis68: Yes, that is what I want to start with15:27
emccormickthere was also a superuser article on organizing meetups that was good. I'm still hunting it15:27
mihalis68#link http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/how-to-organize-openstack-operators-meetup/15:27
mihalis68from Mariano15:27
mihalis68I finally met him in Boston15:27
emccormickthat one :)15:27
med_:)15:28
emaganaawesome! I will look into those..15:28
med_is English or Spanish going to be the language of the Ops Meetup?15:28
emaganaEnglish15:28
emaganamed_: was that a joke?15:28
* med_ is trying to decide whether to go or not15:28
emccormickEnglish is the Official Languange of Openstack ;)15:28
med_I was serious, didn't want to assume anything.15:28
emccormickwe don't even translate logs anymore, much less meetups ;)15:29
med_ass/u/me gets me in trouble all the time15:29
mihalis68I think it's a valid question. I recall that Tokyo summit was bilingual or trilingual with simultaneous translation and headphones15:29
med_yep, I was pretty sure if Japan hosted a meetup it would at least be some parts in Japanese (with English translations)15:29
emaganamihalis68: Let's do not overcomplicate things. Only English15:29
mihalis68sure.15:29
shintaroyes we had Japanese session in one room15:29
med_and I wasn't at the one in Milan so didn't know if a precedent had been set (and I'm trying to figure out if I can self fund a trip to MX.)15:30
mihalis68summits are a very different animal15:30
med_agreed15:30
emccormickMilan was all English15:30
* med_ wasn't trying to derails15:30
mihalis68a really big step forward for next week would be if someone who can converse with the venue could ask if they could handle catering, signs, badges and registration. We can most likely find sponsors for those items15:30
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med_ie, we'd pay them to do it, not ask them to pay for it (the venue)15:31
mihalis68For example, we eventually established for milan that signs could be done by that venue and for 1000 euro. it was then easy for me to talk to my employer and get that picked up15:31
mihalis68yes sorry for not being clear15:31
emccormick+115:31
mihalis68I have a "stand-up" behind me15:31
mihalis68rich russian baritone15:31
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mihalis68would gloria be the person to ask them, Edgar?15:32
mihalis68ok. guess I can't volunteer anyone for that. I will put these questions into the agenda for next week15:34
emccormick;)15:34
mihalis68#action mihalis68 to put items needing funding onto next meeting agenda (catering, signs, badges, registration desk)15:34
emccormickAction Edgar on it since he's running local stuff15:34
emccormickHe can delegate if he wishes. He seems to be becoming your Benevolent Dictator.15:35
mihalis68I'm hesitant to assume who should do what15:35
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emagana:-)15:36
mihalis68In Boston there seemed to be assent to the idea of continuing to charge a small nominal fee ($20 this time)15:36
emaganaYes, I need to know who set-up the eventbrite15:36
emaganaIs the foundation in charge of that?15:36
emccormickYes we had a room full of people +1 that15:36
mihalis68I believe Tom does that15:36
emaganaI will check with Tom directly.15:36
mihalis68the minimal fee is somehow handed over to the venue to offset catering or something like tht15:37
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mihalis68#action emagana to query Evenbrite for Mexico City Mid-Cycle15:37
emccormickemagana Would you be the one to query the venue regarding what services they can provide?15:38
emaganaBTW. I am multitasking, sorry for slow responses15:38
emccormickor would you like to delegate that?15:38
emaganaemccormick: Yes but with the help of the local team. Francisco and Gloria. I will ask them to attend this IRC meeting as well.15:38
emaganaSo, basically I am delegating it.15:39
emccormickexcellent!15:39
mihalis68ok. It seems there's little left we can discuss in this session. We will meet again next week at 14:00 UTC and we expect both a stronger attendance AND some more mexico city folks who can give definitive answers15:39
mihalis68on that basis shall we close this meeting and give everyone back 20 minutes today>15:39
mihalis68?15:39
shintaro:)15:40
emaganathe tim of the meeting will change?15:40
emccormickok mihalis68 you can action emagana to delegate contacting the venue re: available services (catering, signs, registration, etc)15:40
emaganaI miss that part, sorry..15:40
mihalis68yes the doodle poll showed support for one hour earlier15:40
emaganatime*15:40
emaganaawesome, way better for me!15:40
med_emagana, yes, one hour earlier15:41
mihalis68#action emagana to talk to the local mexico city folk about venue services we could use15:41
med_email already out to the operators list15:41
med_I'll reiterate that a few times between now and then15:41
mihalis68any other business for today?15:41
med_and update the wiki page where this is documented.15:41
mihalis68thanks so much David15:41
mihalis68#action med_ to make everyone aware of meeting time shift (to 14:00 UTC) and update the official wiki page on the foundation wiki15:42
emccormick+1 to shut it down then.15:42
mihalis68ok final call for more items we need to discuss today15:42
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mihalis68ok, thanks everyone, see you next week one hour earlier!15:43
med_thanks all, mihalis6815:43
mihalis68#endmeeting15:43
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mrhillsmanhey gents, apologies for missing and not providing an update on my absence, had some overlapping meetings, will read minutes16:23
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