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| emagana | ping all! | 14:01 |
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| emagana | no meeting? | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | depends | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | who's here | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | there has been insufficient attendance recently | 14:04 |
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| mihalis68 | who's here today? | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | I've got backing to come to mexico, so I'm interested how that's going? | 14:06 |
| emagana | I am here.. I thought we were having this meeting regularly | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | there were just two of last week, no meeting the previous two weeks | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | two of us | 14:07 |
| emagana | I am personally getting concern about the future of Operators. We only have 10 people register for Mexico Meet-up | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | or maybe 3 - myself, shintaro, sean mcginnis if I recall | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | I share your concern | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | but we can't run a meeting when nobody turns up | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | if this time slot is no good for people involved in the mexico meet up we should move it | 14:08 |
| emagana | that is a good option | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | reviewing IRC from last week it was me shintaro and a couple of words each from med and smcginnis | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | so we didn't have a meeting | 14:09 |
| emagana | It is not that early for Mexico. | 14:09 |
| emagana | its 9am Mexico City. They are in CT | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | I don't know what the issue is but we haven't been having good attendance for weeks | 14:09 |
| emagana | but I do not think they are familiar with IRC | 14:09 |
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| mihalis68 | ok well perhaps that's an impediment. Are they more familiar with email? slack? | 14:10 |
| emagana | Yes, we are using slack for communication. | 14:10 |
| emagana | but I would expect one or two persons to attend. | 14:11 |
| emagana | I am actually trying to understand. | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | Ok let me make this a meeting so that there are minutes | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | #startmeeting Ops Meetup Team | 14:11 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 18 14:11:43 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:11 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:11 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 14:11 |
| emagana | Anyway, let's do this. Let's start the meeting for the record. I can provide an update and we should have as action items to chase people. Let's do our last push to make this community great again! | 14:12 |
| emagana | :-) | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | #topic very poor attendance of weekly IRC meet is causing this team to evaporate | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | emagana can I give you an action to communicate with the mexico organizers and work out how to meet with them effectively? | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | a different time slot and/or technology? | 14:12 |
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| mihalis68 | slack, email, even voice call could be considered | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | (the meeting is underway) | 14:13 |
| emagana | Yes, go ahead. | 14:14 |
| emagana | I will come back via ML with a proposal to have them in the meeting. | 14:14 |
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| mihalis68 | #action emagana to to communicate with the mexico organizers and work out how to meet with them effectively? (time and tech choice, slack email etc) | 14:14 |
| emagana | I want to know who initially propose Mexico as host for the Ops Meet-up? Do we have an operator there? | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | As I recall it was some intel employees down there? Isaac? | 14:15 |
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| mihalis68 | after the Oregon proposal was withdrawn | 14:15 |
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| emagana | we need some company behind it | 14:17 |
| emagana | a good operator/sponsor | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | yes, but you have to have things for people to sponsor | 14:17 |
| emagana | The folks over there helpin with the logistic are doing great work but I feel we need a good sponsor | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | you can't just say "please sponsor" it has to be things like : food, $1000 | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | This has been my consistent concern - there is no hosting organization involved with openstack | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | it has been a "virtual host" because the venue is free and volunteers want it to happen | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | however for it to succeed someone has to take ownership and MAKE it happen | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | I've been unable to help as much as I would like this time - combination of personal and work issues recently | 14:18 |
| emagana | same here | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | there has been some talk about SuSE I believe. They have an office there, right? | 14:19 |
| emagana | I am doing my best to attend this meeting at 7am plus my working activities, right now I am multi-tasking | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | I think emcormick had some contacts | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | I have complete sympathy - I just wish people would speak up and say "this meeting would be better later" or "can we change the day" | 14:20 |
| emagana | Yes and I ahve seen them in the slack but no at all of push from there | 14:20 |
| mihalis68 | you realize that slack is a bit of an impediment to everyone else right? I am not invited so I imagine most of the regulars here are also not able to join there | 14:20 |
| mihalis68 | at least this is completely open | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | no offense intended | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | I mean there's a slack, I hear, and perhaps chat there, but nothing here | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | that's not a team :| | 14:21 |
| emagana | understood, furthermore we keep the conversation in Spanish | 14:22 |
| emagana | but I rather ask them to join this IRC meeting than going to slack | 14:22 |
| emagana | I will follow up with them. | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | ok perfect | 14:22 |
| emagana | no offense taken | 14:22 |
| emagana | * | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | I think we can still rescue this | 14:22 |
| emagana | :-) | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | :) | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | I try to speak more bluntly there than I really want to, to make sure of conveying my point | 14:23 |
| emagana | that's fine.. at least with me | 14:23 |
| emagana | anyway, more status about Mexico Meet-up: | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | if you do interest them in IRC, please offer flexibility on time and day of week. I can at least try to bridge the gap (attend two meetings even) | 14:23 |
| emagana | The sponsorship flyer is "almost" ready. #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1-3O1KwY8xNpYkHQYBlUvMZgvVk8wkPsKbttZ8mCB5zs/edit?usp=sharing | 14:24 |
| emagana | can we target some sponsors? Do we have a list of companies/people to target? | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | I can write to the mailing list asking for people to sponsor | 14:25 |
| emagana | I was planing to chase: Suse, Canonical, Intel and Kio Networks | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | Bloomberg may be able to pick up a small one | 14:26 |
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| emccormick | oh hey guys | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | I think the mailing list should reach some people in possible sponsoring companies | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | hello | 14:26 |
| emccormick | was wondering if this was happening ;) | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | quick summary, this meeting has been almost dead for weeks | 14:26 |
| shintaro | hi sorry I'm late | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | no worries | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | the problem: mexico volunteers discuss the event in spanish on slack and do not attend this meeting | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | but without the hosts energizing this meeting, it's dying | 14:27 |
| shintaro | yes I see that this meeting isn't working well | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | I have asked emagana to see if a different day and time slot might work | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | I am willing to attend an additional IRC weekly or whatever to get this back up to speed | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | I am attending Mexico, by the way | 14:28 |
| shintaro | I saw the etherpad for MEX and saw all the agenda was refreshed | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | mind you, the prospectus (link above) looks good and may help get things moving | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | the worry is that it is getting late to make travel arrangements ( I plan to make mine today for example) | 14:28 |
| emccormick | it got put back? I had a panic attack yesterday | 14:29 |
| emagana | last time I did not see a lot of activity in the etherpad i will check | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | did it disappear? | 14:29 |
| emccormick | all the session suggestions were gone | 14:29 |
| emccormick | haven't looked at it this morning yet | 14:29 |
| shintaro | I saw it today and saw only one line | 14:29 |
| emagana | what???? suggestions are gone? | 14:29 |
| emagana | let me check | 14:29 |
| emccormick | no they're gone still | 14:30 |
| shintaro | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEX-ops-meetup | 14:30 |
| emagana | WTH!!!! | 14:30 |
| emccormick | need to get people to put in again. Good lord | 14:30 |
| emccormick | don't suppose infra backs those up do they? | 14:30 |
| shintaro | if you go back the timeline you can get them back | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | who can repair it> | 14:31 |
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| shintaro | but wasn't sure it was deleted for purpose or not | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | ? | 14:31 |
| emccormick | if you know how, put it back :) | 14:31 |
| emccormick | definitely was not supposed to be deleted | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to try to repair ops meet up etherpad | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | ok now we have a few more people : i have asked emagana to reconnect the mexico organizers with this meeting or let's change this meeting | 14:32 |
| mihalis68 | he's agreed | 14:32 |
| emccormick | how is registration going? I can't see how many tickets are left anymore | 14:32 |
| mihalis68 | if you have a burning need for a different day, timeslot or tech (email? slack?) please speak up | 14:32 |
| mihalis68 | emagana said only 10 so far | 14:32 |
| logan- | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEX-ops-meetup/timeslider#1704 | 14:32 |
| shintaro | done repairing | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | ah ok, thanks | 14:33 |
| emagana | Thanks a lot shintaro | 14:33 |
| emagana | Yes, last time I check we were only 10 registered | 14:33 |
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| mihalis68 | talking of repairing, our weekly agenda ether pad thought we have been meeting in 2016 | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | I am scribbling an agenda whilst we chat | 14:34 |
| emccormick | yikes | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | anyone here going but not yet bought a ticket? | 14:35 |
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| shintaro | my team is working on internal approval so will buy the ticket soon | 14:35 |
| emccormick | I"m going and have my ticket | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | good to know | 14:35 |
| logan- | i registered last night | 14:35 |
| shintaro | 3 from my team | 14:35 |
| emccormick | emagana when did you last look? | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | for the prospectus, from experience you need to provide the details of the exact vendor to pay | 14:36 |
| emagana | a week ago | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | oh I think I only registered within past week, we may be up to 12 or more | 14:36 |
| emagana | Yes, we can provide more details but first we need the initial catch :-) once we have people interested we will provide more details. | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | I will ask to sponsor on of the smaller ones today | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | and then they will say "maybe, who would we pay?" :) | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | please add your name if you are attending today's meeting : | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:37 |
| emagana | that part I do not know. | 14:37 |
| emagana | how was done last time? | 14:37 |
| emagana | in Milan for instance? | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | Mario was able to tell us the food vendor, we paid them directly - credit card over the phone I think | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | (Bloomberg sponsored phone in milan even though I couldn't' go!) | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | food, we sponsored FOOD | 14:39 |
| mihalis68 | oh 3 from NTT, Shintaro? That's great! | 14:39 |
| shintaro | yes. getting final approval | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | yay | 14:41 |
| mihalis68 | I'll see if I can bring someone else form my team since attendance is low and I have new people | 14:41 |
| emagana | nice mihalis68 | 14:41 |
| shintaro | great! | 14:41 |
| mihalis68 | #action all of us to get the word out about this event | 14:41 |
| emagana | I have not received approval for my own trip | 14:41 |
| emagana | I am considering to take PTO and be my own sponsor | 14:41 |
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| mihalis68 | wow, that's commitment! :) | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | 15 minutes left of this meeting | 14:44 |
| emagana | nothing more from my side. | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | I suggest when you finish discussing how to connect mexico team with us, you could email. Certainly I would like to move faster than weekly irc meeting at this critical phase. You have my email in your inbox | 14:45 |
| emagana | mihalis68: send me an email with the list of people that we need to cc in the email | 14:46 |
| mihalis68 | well I can only really speak for myself and, I guess, Tom? | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | people who want the email? o/ | 14:47 |
| emagana | ok.. I will send it to the operators mailing list and I will cc Tom | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | I don't even know if Tom is able to attend | 14:47 |
| emagana | mostly the Mexico team | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | yes operators mailing list | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | which hotel are people who are fully booked staying at? | 14:48 |
| mihalis68 | I might try to book same place | 14:48 |
| mihalis68 | especially if I go solo (which is still likely) | 14:48 |
| mihalis68 | can help with both travel in an unfamiliar city and with having someone nearby for end of evening chat perhaps | 14:50 |
| shintaro | I thought there were suggested hotels on etherpad. | 14:50 |
| mihalis68 | sure | 14:50 |
| mihalis68 | just wondering if anyone wanted to mention a specific one | 14:50 |
| logan- | i'm checking | 14:50 |
| logan- | Hotel Galeria Plaza Reforma | 14:51 |
| emagana | Marquis Reforma seems to be very close to the location of the event | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | thanks, I will look at those ones | 14:51 |
| emagana | http://www.marquisreforma.com/default-es.html | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | I was too far away from the Barcelona summit location and it was a big pain | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | thanks both of you | 14:51 |
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| mihalis68 | we have 10 minutes left. I presume APAC meet up is relatively in much better shape given how much time there is before that one - no need to discuss today when mexico is at risk? | 14:52 |
| mihalis68 | hi VW | 14:52 |
| mihalis68 | coming to mexico? | 14:52 |
| emccormick | I think that grand fiesta seemed very close also | 14:53 |
| emccormick | there's easy and super cheap uber there though ;) | 14:54 |
| mihalis68 | is there uber in MC? | 14:54 |
| emccormick | (sorry, in 2 meetings at once) | 14:54 |
| emccormick | yes | 14:54 |
| mihalis68 | no worries | 14:54 |
| emccormick | uber there is great | 14:54 |
| mihalis68 | seems like we've covered all topics we are going to manage today | 14:54 |
| mihalis68 | any more? | 14:54 |
| emccormick | no language barrier | 14:54 |
| emccormick | I don't have anything extra. Who is doing the list barrage? | 14:55 |
| shintaro | We are thinking of NH Collection Mexico City Reforma Hotel | 14:55 |
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| mihalis68 | I will ping the list promoting the event | 14:55 |
| emagana | cool! | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | since I am going | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | I'll also tweet about it | 14:56 |
| emccormick | tack on to do session suggestions too | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | those of you connected to me on twitter might retweet that | 14:56 |
| emccormick | it's wicked light right now | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | first priority is attracting more people | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | people who are going will then be more motivated to work on the agenda and perhaps moderate | 14:56 |
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| emccormick | *nod* | 14:56 |
| shintaro | agree | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to promote the upcoming event in mexico on the mailing list and social media | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | I have one topic to suggest, which is docs for older openstack versions | 14:58 |
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| mihalis68 | because we are on Liberty | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | I'll ut it on the ether pad and see if anyone +1s | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | *put | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | ok. Last call | 14:58 |
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| shintaro | API docs is also hard to figure out which version supports which API versions | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | completely agree | 14:59 |
| emagana | +1 | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 18 15:00:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-07-18-14.11.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-07-18-14.11.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-07-18-14.11.log.html | 15:00 |
| shintaro | thank you mihalis68 | 15:00 |
| mihalis68 | thanks everyone, and I will be pinging you via the mailing list | 15:00 |
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