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| cnf | anyone here have ipv6 working in openstack? | 09:57 |
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| mihalis68 | reminder: Ops Meetup Team meeting here in 10 minutes | 13:50 |
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| mihalis68 | #startmeeting Ops Meetup Team | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 24 14:00:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| medberry2 | \o | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 14:00 |
| mihalis68 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | hello everyone! | 14:01 |
| emccormickva | \o | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | #topic actions from last week | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "actions from last week (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:01 | |
| mihalis68 | I was supposed to submit a blog to SuperUser. DONE! | 14:01 |
| emccormickva | woot! | 14:02 |
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| mihalis68 | it's approved here, accepted by superuser and due to post | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | hello shintaro! | 14:02 |
| shintaro | hi | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | your action was to update the Tokyo Landing Page | 14:02 |
| shintaro | we have eventbrite page ready | 14:02 |
| shintaro | #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/openstack-ops-midcycle-tokyo-tickets-39089912982 | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | Ah yes, fantastic | 14:03 |
| shintaro | I've added the link to the Wiki | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | is that ready to go public? | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | I think I saw something about it being initially limited visibility | 14:03 |
| shintaro | I think so | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | could I ask you to check it and then verify it's public and let the mailing list know? | 14:03 |
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| mihalis68 | at that point we can promote it on the usual channels e.g. Twitter | 14:04 |
| shintaro | ok | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | #action Shintaro to check the eventbrite, get it public and let the mailing list know | 14:04 |
| emccormickva | It is public | 14:04 |
| emccormickva | (at least I can see it) | 14:04 |
| medberry | likewise | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | it's worth double-checking so we don't misfire when we first tweet it out | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | it was limited to a known list I think | 14:05 |
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| medberry | visible in incognito window | 14:05 |
| shintaro | I will check it | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | ah ok | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | thanks _med | 14:06 |
| medberry | it wants my $20 now. :^) | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | the other action was for smcginnis but I don't see him | 14:06 |
| shintaro | :) | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | Another older action was the operators guide conversion to the openstack wiki | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | my contractor happened to be out for 2 weeks but is back and on that | 14:07 |
| medberry | #info new TC formed, some members of which are operations friendly | 14:07 |
| VW | o/ | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | his conversion somehow emitted a mix of markdown and html, so needs work | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | that's ongoing but I am tracking it | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | hi vw | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | _med that sounds great | 14:07 |
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| mihalis68 | any further comments? | 14:07 |
| emccormickva | one thing of note on the eventbrite. It has twitter and irc handles as required fields | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | such as who they are? | 14:07 |
| emccormickva | not that I mind, but not everyone uses those things. | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | I imagine you could put @null and null and get away with it? | 14:08 |
| emccormickva | You can put whatever you want I'm sure | 14:08 |
| emccormickva | just maybe a thing to tweak if it's easy to do. | 14:08 |
| * medberry bites his tongue to avoid snarking | 14:08 | |
| mihalis68 | why would you avoid snarking? | 14:09 |
| shintaro | emccormickva I'll check if I can make it optional | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | mihalis68 doesn't know how to make those incidental side comments | 14:09 |
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| mihalis68 | any other updates on past actions? I am sorry I didn't trawl older minutes for previous open actions, so it's the honor system | 14:10 |
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| medberry | my info above was aligned with a former action (to track tc, etc) | 14:10 |
| mihalis68 | oh yes, very good, thanks | 14:10 |
| mihalis68 | if it's ok I might email you for more color on TC later on? | 14:11 |
| emccormickva | shintaro One other thing. Dietary needs is required but there is no option for "none" | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | can just put "calories"? | 14:11 |
| emccormickva | it's check boxen | 14:11 |
| medberry | #link http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-tc-pike-elections/ | 14:11 |
| emccormickva | I would accept "beer" as an option | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | ok you win | 14:11 |
| medberry | mihalis68, of course | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | ok moving on #topic Sydney meet up at the Summit | 14:12 |
| shintaro | thanks emmcormickva | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | my blog posting mentions the upstream LTS releases. It's an attempt to get people to attend if they want those to happen | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | mccormick is running | 14:12 |
| emccormickva | spiffy | 14:12 |
| emccormickva | Yeah I need to get etherpads done this week | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | every time I try to type your nick it autocorrects | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | what else needs to be done for Sydney? I will ask one of my guys to attend that particular session | 14:13 |
| emccormickva | I've also got the Upgrades session. Think Arkady is helping me with that. | 14:13 |
| emccormickva | I spoke with Lauren last week re: festivities for Tom. | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | oh yeah, please add your name to the attendees list on the above linked agenda if you are here for this meeting | 14:14 |
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| emccormickva | They are setting something up for Wednesday night. Haven't heard final confirmation yet though | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | that reminds me... I am really quite glum to report that Tom agreed with taking his name off our organizers list | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | it's official folks, we're on our own now. | 14:15 |
| emccormickva | Once I have it I believe I'll be permitted to put it out on the mailing list | 14:15 |
| emccormickva | *sniffle* | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | I update the list on our wiki page with those who self-identify as being organizers | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | matt jarvis is gone, as is Saverio | 14:15 |
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| mihalis68 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ops_Meetups_Team | 14:16 |
| med_ | thanks for the housekeeping mihalis68 | 14:16 |
| mihalis68 | I will update it when it stop malfunctioning | 14:16 |
| mihalis68 | done | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | i felt that the list should be current because then, presumably, it's ok to email amongst ourselves regarding time-sensitive items of work | 14:17 |
| emccormickva | I"m not on there *sniffle* | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | shall I put you on? | 14:18 |
| emccormickva | Please :) | 14:18 |
| emccormickva | Oh right, speaking of wikis and your docs earlier | 14:18 |
| VW | yeah - intra group emails are cool for the important stuff | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | We are 6! | 14:18 |
| emccormickva | Can you pop an etherpad in for it for Sydney mihalis68? | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | that is better than I figured! | 14:18 |
| emccormickva | My name is on that one too, but if you can provide seed content for the session that would help | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | for the upstream LTS release session? | 14:19 |
| emccormickva | no, the Ops Guide | 14:19 |
| emccormickva | Unless it got whacked and I missed it. | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | yes ok. I missed a comment that was needed context, was confused there | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | will do | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to start an ether pad for the ops guide session in Sydnet | 14:20 |
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| emccormickva | it's there | 14:20 |
| mihalis68 | what else do we need to talk about for Sydney? | 14:20 |
| med_ | <crickets> | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | #topic Tokyo | 14:22 |
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| mihalis68 | #info the Eventbrite is up and the venue is locked in | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | now is the time to start "marketing" | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | I also think that we should start asking for sponsors for any remaining unfunded costs | 14:23 |
| emccormickva | Should we wait until after Sydney, or maybe *at* Sydney to avoid overwhelming people? Or does it not matter? | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | Shintaro I think you said that the beer place wouldn't take reservations? | 14:23 |
| shintaro | Yes, the cost is almost figured out. | 14:23 |
| VW | I think we should at least make mention of it at Sydney | 14:23 |
| VW | "Ops meetup, Tokyo ... Stay tuned for more details..." etc | 14:24 |
| emccormickva | Well, I'm just wondering if we should start full-force tweeting it out so soon | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | speaking personally, tokyo is a LONG way away. I happen to know about it and I have agreement to go, but for some other people I think the more notice the better | 14:24 |
| shintaro | Beer place is still discussing | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | We had people unaware of mexico < 2 weeks before it happened | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | We don't have to machine gun out notices about it | 14:24 |
| emccormickva | k | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | but a couple in prominent places seems fine to me | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | mailing list, a few tweets, and then maybe something on openstack.org? | 14:25 |
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| shintaro | some may need visa application and may take some time for them, so earlier is better I think | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | right, that's a good point | 14:25 |
| med_ | what's approx date for Tokyo, Feb? | 14:25 |
| emccormickva | March 7th - 8th | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-ops-meetup-2018 | 14:26 |
| med_ | "eons away" | 14:26 |
| emccormickva | shintaro Do you have a contact for visa invite letters? | 14:26 |
| emccormickva | might want to put that on the eventbrite also | 14:26 |
| shintaro | no that's what I need to ask Lauren | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | is anything decided on meals during the meetup> | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | In NYC Bloomberg covered both breakfast and lunch | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | and in the end it seems that Mexico City hosts also did | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | (I wasn't expecting anything before lunch, but was pleasantly surprised) | 14:27 |
| shintaro | We will cover coffee and lunch and may ask sponsors to help for evening event | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | oh very nice! | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | should we try to offer a morning snack? | 14:28 |
| shintaro | breakfast wasn't on my list. but I will check | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | it wasn't expected in mexico due to the later start time | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | it was 10am, but almost ended up 11am | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | so clearly not very much time for breakfasting there | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | when do we start in Tokyo? | 14:29 |
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| emccormickva | looks like 9 - 5 | 14:29 |
| shintaro | I would expect 10am first day and 9 or 9:30 second day | 14:30 |
| emccormickva | start registration at 9? | 14:30 |
| shintaro | yes | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | #action shintaro to look into breakfast | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | I suspect we could cover it, for example | 14:32 |
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| mihalis68 | it is much easier to just get to the venue and have food taken care of than to get out, get somewhere, buy breakfast, then move on again, at least IMO | 14:32 |
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| shintaro | thanks I will check how much our budget can cover. | 14:33 |
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| mihalis68 | one avenue for interest and sponsorship of costs at these things seems to be going directly to the large distro vendors. redhat, canonical, suse | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | I can mention it to the first two as we pay both of them :) | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | anyone able to kick off a conversation with SUSE? I have no idea if they do much over there | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to get the word out about tokyo to redhat and canonical | 14:36 |
| med_ | i can suse | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | great, thanks! | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | #action med_ to mention tokyo mid-cycle to SUSE | 14:36 |
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| cnf | hmm | 14:38 |
| cnf | i can't figure out how to get v6 working on openstack | 14:38 |
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| mihalis68 | Shintaro I see that the eventbrite does not mention Telecom track, is that deliberate? | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | I recall talk about explicitly having a telecom track to make it more justifiable for possible attendees in that industry | 14:39 |
| shintaro | The agenda is discussed on the etherpad | 14:39 |
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| shintaro | and the link is on the eventbrite page | 14:39 |
| mihalis68 | ok. My feeling is you could make it more prominent | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | the eventbrite is the "front door" for this event, if you will | 14:40 |
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| mihalis68 | I assume the foundation will slap some graphics on it? | 14:41 |
| shintaro | do you mean we should have check box for which session people would attend? | 14:41 |
| mihalis68 | The mexico design was nice, even if (weirdly) featuring a completely unrelated building | 14:41 |
| shintaro | We will get the graphics after the Summit | 14:41 |
| mihalis68 | No just a feature of the event | 14:42 |
| shintaro | the Foundation's designer is too busy for the Summit | 14:42 |
| mihalis68 | like a cereal box might say "10% extra free" this even could say "Telecom track focusing on OpenStack for the Telecom industry" | 14:42 |
| mihalis68 | *this event | 14:42 |
| emccormickva | oh hey, the SU blog got tweeted out | 14:44 |
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| shintaro | ok I think I got what you mean | 14:44 |
| emccormickva | theLTS one | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | #link http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-at-bloomberg/ | 14:44 |
| VW | awesome | 14:45 |
| shintaro | great | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | yeah shintaro I am trying to keep the following idea in mind : we are *terrible* at marketing | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | oh boy, I'm having a moment here seeing that post | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | anything else re: Tokyo? | 14:47 |
| emccormickva | nothing here | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | #topic future events | 14:47 |
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| mihalis68 | last week we were undecided on what is customary for the rotation of mid-cycles | 14:48 |
| mihalis68 | I read through the various wiki pages and basically it's not definitive. Erik's suggestion that every other is in NAM fits one description, but in another it wasn't definitive | 14:48 |
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| mihalis68 | there is, additionally, the suggestion to co-located with PTG | 14:49 |
| emccormickva | We need to discuss the PTG idea with whoever organizes that. | 14:50 |
| emccormickva | I still fear being a nuisance | 14:50 |
| mihalis68 | I have a feeling Sydney would at least feature the right people in the same location | 14:51 |
| emccormickva | re: the rotation, That's what aprice said they do with the summits | 14:51 |
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| shintaro | PTG idea was brought up by Lauren from the Foundation. PTG is run by the Foundation. | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | I don't think the co-location thing is a slam-dunk | 14:52 |
| emccormickva | Maybe bring it up on openstack-dev? | 14:52 |
| mihalis68 | that's a good idea | 14:53 |
| emccormickva | I imagine there would be some strong opinions one way or the other from those folks | 14:53 |
| aprice___ | I can bring up the confusion with the Foundation team and have someone reach out as well if that's helpful | 14:53 |
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| mihalis68 | I agree it needs a lot of discussion in the wider operators community | 14:54 |
| mihalis68 | when I reviewed the "who should attend" for PTG it was not for us | 14:54 |
| mihalis68 | (my team) | 14:54 |
| VW | hey folks, I have to run to another meeting. Next week, can we take a few minutes to discuss specific goals out of the Ops meetup session in SYD | 14:54 |
| emccormickva | Thanks aprice___ It would be good to have clarity | 14:54 |
| mihalis68 | so I wouldn't attend PTG days | 14:54 |
| VW | so I can be ready to moderate | 14:54 |
| VW | it can even be this PTG or not to PTG discussion :) | 14:54 |
| mihalis68 | attending afterwards, because the dev team is there... I'm not convinced | 14:54 |
| aprice___ | Ok | 14:55 |
| mihalis68 | yes VW I'll put it on the agenda | 14:55 |
| mihalis68 | see you next week | 14:55 |
| mihalis68 | perhaps mailing list to warm the community up to the issue and then see if a consensus can be reached in Sydney | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | 4 minutes | 14:56 |
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| shintaro | that sounds good | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | #topic team business | 14:56 |
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| mihalis68 | anyone on the organizers list who doesn't want to be (or vice versa) please let me know | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | and if possible can I put email address for shintaro and erik? | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | and finally (from me) any comments about this meeting time and cadence? | 14:57 |
| shintaro | ok | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | is it working for everyone? | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | weekly and this time slot? | 14:57 |
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| shintaro | working for me | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | ok any other business? | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | thanks to all that turned up this week. I know we're all busy | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | I just got 80 machines this morning! :) | 14:58 |
| shintaro | thank you | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | 1 PB SSD | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | AWWW YEAHHH | 14:58 |
| shintaro | wow | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | it's going to pure Ceph clusters not openstack, but they do take a lot of storage load off the compute clusters, it all helps | 14:59 |
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| mihalis68 | last call | 14:59 |
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| emccormickva | time is good for me too | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion of topics related to operating Openstack infrastructures at scale | Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators | Logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 24 15:00:00 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-10-24-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-10-24-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-10-24-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| shintaro | bye | 15:00 |
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| mihalis68 | thanks again to all | 15:00 |
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