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| lvdombrkr | rmart04: hi, regarding yesterday discussion about upgrades, you mentioned that there is possibility use existing ceph, to not migrate data around, i have question, if Kilo and Ocata db not compatible, how can i get data from Kilo? | 07:48 |
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| lvdombrkr | its not clear for me | 07:48 |
| lvdombrkr | for example volumes list etc | 07:48 |
| lvdombrkr | i mean in openstack | 07:48 |
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| rmart04 | Hey, I mean’t at a lower level than that. I.E keeping the disk images as they are, and then Importing them using Ocata and its tools (like cinder manage). I’ve not done this, but I expect there is a way to! I believe the old cli tools used cinder manage —id-type source-name —name volume — description “…” and then somthing like the rbd url after. I’m not 100% though! | 07:54 |
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| lvdombrkr | rmart04: now understood need to test check this in test lab.. so in this way there will be no any DB data from Kilo in Ocata as i underestood... all flavors, networks, user, roles i must create manually in Ocata | 08:07 |
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| rmart04 | I would imagine so! | 08:07 |
| rmart04 | Do let me know how you get on though! | 08:08 |
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| lvdombrkr | AlexeyAbashkin: hi, you migrate any DBs when migrated between openstacks? | 08:14 |
| lvdombrkr | rmart04: i need to do a lot of preparation before start )) | 08:16 |
| rmart04 | absolutely | 08:17 |
| AlexeyAbashkin | yes. it make sense to move all data | 08:21 |
| lvdombrkr | AlexeyAbashkin: okey, but how to migrate DB if there too huge difference between versions? | 08:23 |
| lvdombrkr | i tried to do that in test lab just for dump Kilo | 08:24 |
| lvdombrkr | DB and restore in Ocata, but without any success | 08:24 |
| rmart04 | You will have to run through all the migrations betweeen each release I believe | 08:25 |
| AlexeyAbashkin | yes, you need to repeat dump/restore+db_sync several times stepping k-l-m-n-o | 08:26 |
| lvdombrkr | rmart04: yes, but why then i need later migrate to "second" Ocata cloud , if i need to k-l-m-n-o on my production cloud? or i something do not understood in root | 08:28 |
| yankcrime | you'll need to run database upgrade scripts for every service as you upgrade | 08:30 |
| yankcrime | as there are pretty fundamental changes between versions | 08:31 |
| yankcrime | especially with nova | 08:31 |
| rmart04 | Maybe some context will help, Every 6 months a new release is out, this contains new features, tweaks to existing ones and other things. In order for these things to be supported database schema changes are needed. The migrations are a path for the database data to upgrade from the last release to the current one. If you try and start cinder with a newer release than the DB its almost certainly going to error out. In your case there are a lot | 08:31 |
| rmart04 | changes, so you are going to have to step through them, picking up all of the changes along the way, from K - O. | 08:31 |
| yankcrime | all the flavor metadata was migrated between kilo and liberty, so there are some extra steps required there | 08:31 |
| lvdombrkr | rmart04: i understood that, but for me not clear, upgrade process.. if imagine, i had existing cloud on production Kilo with 300 Vms, and second Ocata cloud without any production at the moment... so question is why i need to migrate to second OCATA cloud if anyway to do that i need firstly k-l-m-n-o my production cloud? why i cant stay on it after upgrade? this is what not clear | 08:37 |
| lvdombrkr | yankcrime: so question is, why i need to migrate instances to second Ocata cloud (as AlexeyAbashkin advised ) if there anyway i need k-l-m-n-o production cloud? | 08:40 |
| rmart04 | I’m not sure about a “second” O cloud. You either upgrade the one you have, build a new one and import your data. You asked ‘how to migrate DB’, so I thought we were talking about attempting to migrate the cinder DB to the second cloud for an easier transition with persistent disks. I might have misread, you might have meant all the DB’s. | 08:41 |
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| AlexeyAbashkin | hmm.... the answer IMHO in DBs schema. you cannot just mysqldump from K and do mysql<dump.sql on O. you need restore to L then do db_sync then dump from L.... long way. | 08:46 |
| AlexeyAbashkin | but, if we'R talking about just moving the VM, you can just make several GET requests to K's API and then make appropriate PUT's to O. i.e. for Neutron it will work | 08:46 |
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| AlexeyAbashkin | looks like someone already tried to cover this process: https://github.com/Mirantis/CloudFerry | 08:49 |
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| lvdombrkr | AlexeyAbashkin: so when you move your VMs to new cloud, you also was upgrade old to migrate DB later? | 08:53 |
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| AlexeyAbashkin | it depends on what data we move. i.e.: I can sit, take a look at flavors list and create the same on new cloud from scratch or I can dump the nova DB, make db_sync several times on separate dedicated devStack, and restore it on target cloud | 09:01 |
| AlexeyAbashkin | opposite is for cinter :-) I do want to have the same (absolutely the same) volumes. If I use shared storage - it make sense to dump-db_sync-restore cinder db | 09:04 |
| lvdombrkr | before i imagine upgrade process a bit simpler...as more information, as more new questions )) | 09:08 |
| AlexeyAbashkin | we are at the very beginning of journey :-) | 09:08 |
| lvdombrkr | so i can take image from my Kilo controller, upgrade it dedicatedly from my production env, and restore it to target cloud? (just as idea?) | 09:12 |
| AlexeyAbashkin | hmmm.... probably yes | 09:16 |
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| lvdombrkr | rmart04: yes, but if not migrate cinder DB but use cinder manage option, as we discussed, anyway i need nova db for the correct work ) | 09:35 |
| rmart04 | GL! | 09:36 |
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| lvdombrkr | AlexeyAbashkin: from which version you was jumping to ? | 10:24 |
| AlexeyAbashkin | several cases.... most of them - from kilo | 10:25 |
| lvdombrkr | AlexeyAbashkin: mhmm.. cant find any documentation/notes related to upgrades from kilo | 10:31 |
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| AlexeyAbashkin | fell into oblivion... | 10:37 |
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| lvdombrkr | AlexeyAbashkin: upgrade without any notes will be great a challenge ) | 10:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Martin Mágr proposed openstack/osops-tools-monitoring master: Fix glance_upload check https://review.openstack.org/515719 | 14:23 |
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| jproulx | This is more a k8s question, but the sig is quiet so... | 17:40 |
| jproulx | I'm trying to get k8s to assign a specific floating ip to a LoadBalancer by specifying loadBalancerIP: this fails because it tries to create that (already exisiting) flaotingip. I suspect this is a bug in the k8s openstack cloud provider but am sufficiently inexperienced in k8s that there's also a high likelihood I'm just doing it wrong. | 17:40 |
| jproulx | If I don't try and specify floating IP k8s happily gets a new one and configures my OpenStack (mitaka) LBaaSv2 properly. | 17:40 |
| jproulx | Can anyone here confirm or deny that this is a code problem and not a CTKI problem :) | 17:40 |
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| klindgren_ | Curious if anyone here actually runs ram_allocation_ratio at the default of 1.5? (ie it will put vm's on the server until 1.5x of the server memory is allocated) | 22:03 |
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