Tuesday, 2018-01-23

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med_\o14:00
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shintarohi14:02
med_hi shintaro14:02
med_very quiet in this channel14:02
shintarohi med_14:02
mihalis68#startmeeting Ops Meetup Team14:03
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 23 14:03:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:03
mihalis68hello14:03
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)"14:03
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'14:03
shintarohi mihalis6814:03
mihalis68I have some news!14:03
mihalis68hi14:03
mihalis68Since I started the meeting minutes 10 minutes ago, I have received approval for the coffee/snacks sponsorship for Tokyo14:03
mihalis68#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team14:03
shintarogreat news!14:03
mihalis68#topic actions14:04
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shintarodoes that mean breakfast/morning coffee?14:04
mihalis68mihalis68 : Bloomberg will pick up the coffee/snacks item14:04
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mihalis68Yes I believe you quoted $150014:04
mihalis68it's a funny amount14:04
mihalis68a lot less I can authorize, a lot more someone else would be involved. This amount I can spend on my corporate card but I had to get my expense approver pre-approval and he was out14:05
mihalis68anyway....14:05
mihalis68other actions?14:05
mihalis68I haven't heard anyone comment on the ops guide conversion to wiki14:05
med_I have no update. Sorry.14:06
shintaroI will have my contractor contact you for sponsorship, mihalis6814:06
mihalis68perfect14:06
mihalis68you have my work email somewhere I believe14:06
mihalis68or my gmail is fine, except it get bazillions of messages14:06
shintaroYes thanks14:06
mihalis68no other updates on actions? Is the evening event locked in?14:07
mihalis68#topic Tokyo14:07
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mihalis68I've seen some emails about it trying to get the word out. One from the foundation14:07
mihalis68Any idea what numbers are up to?14:07
shintarono update on evening event14:07
mihalis68Now that I have confirmed us sponsoring, our social media people can mention it on twitter. I'll ask them to highlight the Eventbrite14:08
mihalis68Not to say they have enormous visibility but every bit helps14:08
med_+114:08
shintaroI didn't get this weeks number, but 24 last week14:08
mihalis68Do we need to talk about the evening event? I can't recall, is it being booked by NTT?14:08
shintaroNTT will cover evening event.14:09
shintaroThe place isn't fixed yet but working on it.14:10
mihalis68ok so as far as I know, this team (ops meetups) needs to just focus on the technical agenda for Tokyo now, everything else is in progress?14:10
shintaroright14:10
shintaro#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-ops-meetup-201814:10
mihalis68I have been lax in not looking at that for a while. We have been struggling here with internal cloud stuff14:10
mihalis68enormous load, scaling issues14:10
mihalis68That document looks in good shape relative to the timetable14:11
mihalis68Should we attempt to transcribe that into the actual hour by hour agenda?14:11
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shintaroWe still need more +1s on the topics, but I think we can pick up some popular ones and fill the timetable14:12
mihalis68Hmm, we seem to be below quorum here14:12
mihalis68Yeah, I agree that we can start14:12
mihalis68Shintaro have you or your contractors identified session start times and break times?14:13
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mihalis68I guess not. I propose this: Shintaro can you make a skeleton agenda? Times for doors open, first session, coffee break, lunch, afternoon sessions etc?14:14
mihalis68that seems like something needed now14:14
shintaroI have draft timetable on the google docs14:15
shintaro#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=121457106214:15
mihalis68Ah very good!14:15
mihalis68Sorry I'm so out of touch14:15
mihalis68Shall we make a start filling in topics for next week?14:15
shintaroI need to check if that works with the venue and catering14:16
mihalis68Ok14:16
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mihalis68can I action you to get confirmed venue times? Then we have the structure on which to place the technical topics14:16
shintaroI will14:17
mihalis68#action shintaro to confirm itinerary with venue - doors open, coffee, lunch etc times14:17
mihalis68speaking personally I still have to book!14:18
shintaro:)14:18
mihalis68anything else for Tokyo? I think it's actually in good shape relative to other events14:18
mihalis68I'm starting to get excited!14:19
mihalis68#topic meetup #2 201814:19
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mihalis68I did write to the verizon event planner who had been in contact about a possible co-hosting thing for August14:19
mihalis68unfortunately I did not hear back14:20
mihalis68not sure if Verizon is still on board14:20
mihalis68#action mihalis68 to follow-up with Verizon over meet up 2 201814:20
mihalis68If they are not, I think I will propose we try to replicate the arrangements from august 2016 as that was reasonably popular14:20
mihalis68and just have Bloomberg host solely14:20
shintarogreat. so going back to NYC again!14:22
mihalis68We have already covered the ops guide - no comments. So given attendance let's wrap up early14:22
mihalis68any other business?14:22
med_Verizon has curtailed hiring for the time being14:22
med_so likely managing other expenses14:23
shintarono from me, thanks14:23
mihalis68thanks for the insight, Med_14:23
med_nothing further14:23
mihalis68that probably explains it14:23
mihalis68Ok shall we try to meet in one week's time?14:23
med_possibly, next week will be my last meeting. In Feb, I will no longer be involved in Ops.14:24
mihalis68new gig?14:24
mihalis68Sorry to lose you14:24
shintaroWe will miss you14:24
med_I have one tip to share from last week14:25
mihalis68well, thanks for everything, and I'll make an extra effort to pull together next week's meeting14:25
med_(operator tip)14:25
med_analyze what will happen with your bonds if you lose half of them.14:25
med_Double check your bonding/aggregate/channel bonding scheme to make sure the other side will handle ALL traffic and that it won't get dropped.14:25
med_we has severe storage system issues related to that event14:25
med_s/has/had14:26
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mihalis68this sounds like the kind of advice that has faint blood spatters on it14:26
mihalis68hey VW14:26
mihalis68we were just going to wrap up14:26
mihalis68med_ is leaving the community as he's going to be not an operators14:26
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mihalis68anything to add?14:27
med_mihalis68, some blood. Would have been a lot worse if we weren't sunsetting the Charter/TWC cloud. Most users had already evac.d14:27
VWhey guys14:27
mihalis68hi. unless you have something to discuss we were going to call this one early, low attendance14:27
* med_ is proposing a talk for Vancouver re: Burnin' down the cloud to talk about lessons learned .14:27
mihalis68do it!14:27
mihalis68I'll go!14:27
VWsorry I'm so late.  was all the way to the office when I realized I forgot my badge and had to turn around14:28
mihalis68no worries. Next week though...14:28
mihalis68med_'s last14:28
VW:(14:28
mihalis68if I might try to sum up, Tokyo is looking good14:28
med_+114:28
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mihalis68#2 2018 is not making progress, but we'll assume Verizon is no longer interested and see if we can proceed without them14:28
VWsounds good - so we are looking for a host then14:29
mihalis68and there's a rather nice Ops Guide conversion to wiki ready for review but so far no love14:29
mihalis68I think Bloomberg may host in NYC again14:29
VWOk - you sure - it's only been two years14:29
mihalis68I don't think we would stand in the way if someone else really wants to, however NE USA seems like the favored choice and there are no other leads so ar14:30
mihalis68*so far14:30
VWhey med_ - one thing that came up in a uc meeting a while back (and I haven't caught up with since) was looking at stackalytics or something similar for non-code contributions14:30
VWbelieve it was discussed in a forum session14:30
VWsounds good mihalis6814:30
med_it was. I'll see what I can noodle around that.14:31
VWso, with the new gig will you still be around OpenStack, med_?14:31
med_yes, definitely would be good to have a story/plan for non-code prior to VCVR14:31
mihalis68I think our meeting is done, of course that doesn't stop related caht14:31
mihalis68#endmeeting14:31
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med_VW, was about to private you, but since you asked: I'll be at Red Hat doing cloud related things (CloudForms Ansible) but not directly OpenStack.14:31
med_CF and A work with all clouds (including OpenStack).14:32
VWgotcha14:32
mihalis68hey congrats med_14:32
med_I'll be on the road a lot doing Proof of Concepts at businesses.14:32
VWyeah - saw the announcement on the new gig - congrats14:32
med_thanks guys. Looks like a good gig and good company and remote work.14:32
VWjust wasn't sure what it involved14:32
med_np. thanks for the support all.14:33
* med_ will miss Ops14:33
VWOps will miss med_14:33
VW:)14:33
mihalis68agreed14:33
mihalis68we run our object store on rhel14:33
shintaro+1 you can still come back as a distributer hat on :)14:33
mihalis68it's a bit farfetched that our work will intersect with med_ but he's still in the community14:34
med_I will remain in the community and will continue to run Colorado OpenStack meetups14:34
mihalis68oh that's great14:34
VWI will probably pick your brain on that then.14:36
shintarook, see you all next week!14:36
mihalis68I offered to buy med_ dinner if he passes through NYC14:36
VWit looks like I may make the PTG for a couple of days14:36
mihalis68let me say that's extended to all ops meetups team :)14:36
VWspecifically around some uc strategic planning14:36
VWone of the things we are working through is how to better use the regional meetups14:36
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mihalis68bye all, see you next week14:37
med_first ptg I WON'T make. :(14:38
med_timing/scheduling was off with job transition14:38
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smcginnisMissed the meeting again. :/15:03
smcginnisJust wanted to point out to this group - the TC will be narrowing down and selecting goals for the Rocky release soon.15:04
smcginnisThere are a few proposals out there.15:04
smcginnisIf there are any that are particularly attractive to the ops community, it would be great to have some input on those proposals to let everyone know.15:04
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smcginnisOh, here is an email that has a list of all of those goals: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126384.html15:07
mrhillsmanMissed again as well, will read logs15:11
VWyeah mrhillsman - it's at 8:00 for us right now.  I've had a hard time making it too because of school dropoffs, etc15:14
* med_ thought mrhillsman was a west coaster15:36
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smcginnismed_: He's a Texan y'all. :)16:28
med_heh.16:28
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CloudTokohi all.. how do i troubleshoot a sudden rise of device XXX not defined on plugin  coming up on neutron logs ?22:04
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openstackgerritbezko proposed openstack/osops-tools-generic master: Fix missed variable rename 'object'  https://review.openstack.org/53699222:20
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