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| mihalis68 | nominally time for our meeting in 4 minutes, but I wonder if we would do better if we push by one hour today, given the conversation last week where 3 regular attendees find the time too early | 13:56 |
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| med_ | mihalis68, +1 | 13:58 |
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| mihalis68 | shintaro would you be ok with push the meeting one hour today. Three regular attendees last week missed it and said its too early at this time of year | 14:00 |
| mihalis68 | med_ is +1 and I am ok with either time | 14:00 |
| shintaro | ok | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | I know this makes it very late for you, sorry | 14:01 |
| shintaro | NP | 14:01 |
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| mihalis68 | I will reply that we'll try it just this one week before any decision on an official move of the meeting | 14:02 |
| med_ | ah, so invoking now? | 14:02 |
| med_ | kk | 14:02 |
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| shintaro | I will update the agenda while waiting | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | yeah, because we've had extremely thin attendance for weeks | 14:03 |
| shintaro | agree | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | I would rather move it and have a chance of getting mrhillsman vw emc in the conversation | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | also sean | 14:03 |
| VW | hola | 14:04 |
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| VW | was just replying to the email | 14:04 |
| VW | I'm fine moving it or can stay here | 14:04 |
| shintaro | if moving one hour behind can make that happen, I'm happy to change the time | 14:04 |
| VW | what ever the bulk of the group wants | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | agreed. It's moved by one hour today, approved by the vast throng of 3 that were here at normal start time, then we can debate what to do in 55 minutes time | 14:05 |
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| VW | works for me | 14:08 |
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| mihalis68 | removed med_ from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ops_Meetups_Team (reluctantly) | 14:13 |
| med_ | thanks mihalis68 | 14:13 |
| mihalis68 | team size now 5, still not bad | 14:13 |
| med_ | fwiw, I'm using this "free" hour to look at the ops guide. | 14:13 |
| mihalis68 | if we could just find a good time slot, we could still achieve great things! :) | 14:13 |
| shintaro | I will be back later | 14:14 |
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| mihalis68 | thumbs-up, med_ | 14:14 |
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| mihalis68 | med_ is looking at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | we haven't formally unleashed this wikified version (it has been removed from openstack doc set that is maintained with the code) | 14:19 |
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| smcginnis | What is the plan for moving the meeting? | 14:25 |
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| smcginnis | Oh, I see now. One hour late. That works great for me. | 14:26 |
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| med_ | mihalis68 is correct, I'm reviewing OpsGuide and putting notes here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team-guide-review I'm not doing live edits to the opsguide but after anyone agrees with my notes, I'm happy to make those changes. Also, I'm just getting started on this task but Better late than never. | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | Very useful notes, med_ ! Thanks!! | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | just for context, the guide was converted without any updating with the aim to just be on par with the developer-maintained version. The first question to be answered is : is the wiki conversion good enough for us to declare that this is now the master copy. It's important because if we do that, the source code is forever obsolete as edits will be made in-wiki and only there | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | we have a final chance to go back and fiddle with that conversion if we find conversion issues. After that we can switch to modernizing the content (David is already finding plenty to do there!) | 14:32 |
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| med_ | mihalis68, so I've got not problems (will niddling things) with the conversion after going through three sections. The real issue is that it stinks to high heaven of 2013 when it was written. Lot of water under the bridge. | 14:41 |
| med_ | I'm not proposing I do a rewrite but at least extract the obsolete stuff. | 14:41 |
| smcginnis | Probably well overdue for some cleanup. | 14:42 |
| mihalis68 | yes lots of work to do. If this team approves the wiki conversion I think we can all attack the document and make it better fairly quickly | 14:42 |
| mihalis68 | It may seem like I'm stuck on this point, but today we could still go back to the source and reconvert. Best to make SURE we will never need to do that again | 14:43 |
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| mihalis68 | Ops Meetups Team meeting here in about 5 minutes (on the hour) | 14:54 |
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| jamesmcarthur | o/ | 15:00 |
| VW | o/ | 15:01 |
| mihalis68 | o/ | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 15:01 |
| shintaro | o/ | 15:01 |
| mihalis68 | #startmeeting Ops Meetup Team | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 30 15:01:50 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 15:01 |
| mihalis68 | hello everyone! | 15:01 |
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| shintaro | hi | 15:02 |
| emccormick | o/ | 15:02 |
| mihalis68 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team - today's meeting agenda | 15:02 |
| mihalis68 | #topic actions | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "actions (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 15:02 | |
| mihalis68 | my action for Tokyo was to get the funding in for the coffee/snacks. I'm discussing paperwork with the host, should be done soon | 15:02 |
| shintaro | updated the agenda etherpad and planning google spreadsheet | 15:03 |
| mihalis68 | thanks! | 15:03 |
| emccormick | I emailed out begging for session proposals | 15:03 |
| mihalis68 | anyone else wish to comment on actions from last week (or indeed earlier)? | 15:03 |
| mihalis68 | great | 15:03 |
| mihalis68 | Ok there's more detail on actions already on the agenda, so we can move on | 15:03 |
| mihalis68 | #topic Tokyo meetup | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tokyo meetup (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 15:04 | |
| shintaro | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=1214571062 | 15:04 |
| emccormick | shintaro, does the 25 registrations include any of your people? | 15:04 |
| mihalis68 | I covered the coffee. That's the only outstanding sponsorship item I believe? | 15:04 |
| shintaro | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-ops-meetup-2018 | 15:04 |
| mihalis68 | or is there an opening for swag? | 15:04 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 15:04 |
| mihalis68 | hey! Welcome!! | 15:04 |
| shintaro | 25 doesn't include NTT people. we will have 20+poeple ready to register | 15:04 |
| med_ | \o | 15:04 |
| med_ | My action to review opsguide import to wiki is underway | 15:04 |
| mihalis68 | so attendance to tokyo likely to 45+? | 15:05 |
| mihalis68 | david thanks for doing that | 15:05 |
| shintaro | I expect more from other companies as well | 15:05 |
| emccormick | good. That's comforting ;) | 15:05 |
| mihalis68 | for those who did not see the earlier discussion, david is reviewing the Ops Guide document, recently made into a wiki (extracted from the developer-maintained doc set) | 15:05 |
| mihalis68 | I am very happy to hear how good attendance numbers are already | 15:06 |
| shintaro | Locals register late ;p | 15:06 |
| mihalis68 | very true | 15:06 |
| mihalis68 | I do have my ticket! | 15:06 |
| emccormick | Me too! :) | 15:06 |
| mihalis68 | is there a provision for swag shintaro? | 15:06 |
| mihalis68 | mainly I think people definitely appreciate event t-shirts | 15:07 |
| shintaro | Foundation will cover them I suppose. T-shirt | 15:07 |
| mihalis68 | ok good. I don't think need to call for any more sponsors for anything, which is unusual at this stage of event planning | 15:07 |
| * med_ doesn't recall an ops meetup shirt but hasn't been to one in so long | 15:07 | |
| shintaro | I will double check Lauren | 15:07 |
| mihalis68 | we got them in mexico, however they were sized for smaller people than I at least | 15:07 |
| mihalis68 | and now we have a new logo! | 15:08 |
| shintaro | yes the logo looks great | 15:08 |
| mihalis68 | I think the only thing left is the technical agenda, particularly moderators | 15:08 |
| mihalis68 | emc mentioned earlier that more are needed IIRC | 15:08 |
| shintaro | yes. we need more | 15:08 |
| emccormick | yeah it's pretty much just us so far | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | Would be great to have more local folks presenting. | 15:09 |
| emccormick | +1 | 15:09 |
| shintaro | we have some volunteers on the etherpad | 15:09 |
| mihalis68 | I will look for a session to moderate. | 15:09 |
| mrhillsman | I will not make meet up unfortunately but smcginnis will and we'll discuss post meetup | 15:09 |
| shintaro | please add your names on the etherpad from line 20 | 15:10 |
| med_ | +1 mrhillsman | 15:10 |
| * med_ will not make it either.... | 15:10 | |
| mrhillsman | I bought a ticket though ;) | 15:10 |
| emccormick | hadn't put my name there. Is now | 15:10 |
| med_ | smcginnis, can eat your bagels/donuts | 15:10 |
| med_ | sushui | 15:10 |
| med_ | sushi | 15:11 |
| shintaro | can anyone moderate the UC session or non-dev contribution? | 15:11 |
| shintaro | someone from UC or Foundation would be nice | 15:11 |
| mihalis68 | I am confused, the moderators list looks to be at line 150 or so to me? | 15:11 |
| mihalis68 | or are we looking at different documents? | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | med_: ++ :) | 15:12 |
| med_ | line 20 was like the start of the section needing moderations. | 15:12 |
| emccormick | oh I see. The bottom one is just a pool of people | 15:12 |
| emccormick | top is session specific | 15:12 |
| shintaro | I've listed the topics from line 20 and we need to pick the moderator for each topic | 15:12 |
| mihalis68 | oh ok now I get it. | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | I can moderate the non-dev contribution. | 15:13 |
| emccormick | Do we have anyone from UC coming? | 15:13 |
| shintaro | if we don't have the moderator, then maybe skip the topic | 15:13 |
| mihalis68 | I took ceph | 15:13 |
| VW | I don't know that we'll have a UC person in Tokyo mihalis68 | 15:13 |
| emccormick | +1 skip if nobody's coming | 15:13 |
| mihalis68 | i don't know that much about UC myself TBH | 15:13 |
| med_ | do we have foundation people going? I think covering UC is probably a good thing | 15:14 |
| mihalis68 | so much I still need to learn about openstack community | 15:14 |
| emccormick | One of you run for an open seat. Then we'll have someone! | 15:14 |
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| med_ | and hopefully someone can cover at the last minute as needed. | 15:14 |
| VW | yes, if Jimmy is there, that might help | 15:14 |
| VW | I'll check | 15:14 |
| mihalis68 | it's not going to be edgar (see email I just responded to!) | 15:14 |
| med_ | yep | 15:14 |
| emccormick | Figured that was coming, what with his AWS shift and all. | 15:14 |
| mihalis68 | I recall fifield muttering about running for the board or other groups, but he seems to have withdrawn completely - great shame | 15:14 |
| jamesmcarthur | VW I won't be able to make the Tokyo meetup, unfortunately | 15:15 |
| shintaro | jamesmacarthur anyone from the Foundation? | 15:15 |
| mihalis68 | I could moderate LTS releases too, however I do have a small concern that that looks a bit one-sided since I'm on record as saying we really want those to happen | 15:16 |
| jamesmcarthur | shintaro to my knowledge, no | 15:16 |
| mihalis68 | I'll put my name against it with a * saying until someone better comes along | 15:16 |
| emccormick | mihalis68 I'll do it. Carry on from Sydney | 15:16 |
| shintaro | oh then no one can moderate the UC session I suppose | 15:16 |
| jamesmcarthur | shintaro: I'm double checking that | 15:17 |
| mihalis68 | ok just overwrite my edit then | 15:17 |
| jamesmcarthur | Claire Massey might be there... | 15:17 |
| jamesmcarthur | stand by :) | 15:17 |
| emccormick | I'll nominate shintaro for a UC seat :D | 15:17 |
| jamesmcarthur | shintaro: confirmed no Foundaiton members will be in attendance. However, we are working on a t-shirt (per a previous discussion point) | 15:17 |
| mihalis68 | good idea | 15:17 |
| emccormick | vote him in and we'll have someone there! | 15:17 |
| shintaro | I'm not following UC conversation... | 15:18 |
| mihalis68 | I would think you'd have to throw your name into the hat for that to work (down boy/Erik!) | 15:19 |
| mihalis68 | erik is suggesting you run for user committee. There are 3 seats going | 15:19 |
| VW | I'm fine moderating a UC session remotely :P | 15:19 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 15:19 |
| med_ | shintaro, folks were joking about nominating and electing you. | 15:19 |
| mihalis68 | texas-JP lag would be horrid, VW | 15:19 |
| med_ | you can ignore them | 15:19 |
| shintaro | ah that's too much for me | 15:19 |
| mihalis68 | ok that's that then | 15:19 |
| emccormick | I wasn't joking ;) | 15:19 |
| mihalis68 | remove UC entry next week unless someone can be found? | 15:20 |
| emccormick | yep | 15:20 |
| mihalis68 | hmmm, has sean been UC in the past? | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: Nope, I haven't been there. | 15:20 |
| VW | I don't believe so. | 15:20 |
| mihalis68 | misremembering something then, ignore | 15:20 |
| VW | your past folks are pretty much Tim, Shilla, Edgar and Jon P. | 15:20 |
| mihalis68 | ok. Seems it for Tokyo. | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | I can moderate discussion and try to answer questions, but not my strong area. | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: You may be thinking TC, not UC. | 15:21 |
| mihalis68 | resolve whether to have UC session in tokyo at next weeks meeting here? | 15:21 |
| mihalis68 | yeah | 15:21 |
| VW | yep | 15:21 |
| mihalis68 | moving on | 15:21 |
| mihalis68 | #topic meetup #2 2018 | 15:21 |
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| mihalis68 | I still have no reply from Verizon | 15:21 |
| med_ | I wonder if Amrith can answer.... | 15:22 |
| mihalis68 | I assume the chatter last week is true and they have a budget lockdown preventing hosting | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | Cough cough amrith cough. | 15:22 |
| mihalis68 | hash summon | 15:22 |
| mihalis68 | can someone discreetly inquire? | 15:23 |
| * med_ poked him | 15:23 | |
| mihalis68 | offline | 15:23 |
| mihalis68 | thanks! | 15:23 |
| med_ | I suspect a week long lag | 15:23 |
| med_ | in response | 15:23 |
| mihalis68 | next week, if still nothing from verizon, I will see if my boss and his boss are interested in Bloomberg solely hosting again in NYC | 15:24 |
| mihalis68 | they were somewhat interested and then the verizon possibility cropped up | 15:24 |
| VW | I tired to drop very un-sbutle hints to the Sprint person that reached about about the details of the August one too, mihalis68 | 15:24 |
| mihalis68 | I saw that | 15:24 |
| mrhillsman | Also we discussed yesterday in UC meeting running alongside openstack days | 15:24 |
| mihalis68 | seems like no response though? | 15:24 |
| mihalis68 | openstack days east failed in the NE last year | 15:24 |
| VW | The OpenStack days overlap makes a little more sense to me than the PTG | 15:24 |
| med_ | yep | 15:25 |
| mrhillsman | While #2 may be too soon, just adding to this topic | 15:25 |
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| mihalis68 | if openstack days east were to work in summer 2018, that could be great, however I am sceptical | 15:25 |
| mrhillsman | I think the days events can reduce some logistical challenges | 15:26 |
| mihalis68 | only if there is interest | 15:26 |
| mrhillsman | And the community at large for those regional events are highly invested in them | 15:26 |
| mihalis68 | two years ago Bloomberg presented at the days east | 15:26 |
| mihalis68 | last year it cratered | 15:26 |
| mrhillsman | And we can fill gaps for those cases? | 15:27 |
| med_ | very very few in US last year aiui | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | NY two years ago was great, IMO. | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | Was sad to see things fall apart last year. | 15:27 |
| med_ | I know vendors that were looking for US OpenStack Days last year to join but couldn't actually underwrite one themselves. | 15:28 |
| med_ | yep, 2 years ago NYC OpenStack East + Ops was PERFECT. | 15:28 |
| mihalis68 | mrhillsman are you suggesting attendees of this meeting should be trying to get more OpenStack days events off the ground? | 15:28 |
| mrhillsman | Nope | 15:29 |
| med_ | SuSE largely underweote the last one I went to in Salt Lake City 14 months ago. | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | med_: In fact, there was the talk of colocating. I wonder if we should be looking at doing that format more often. | 15:29 |
| mrhillsman | Have regular ops meetup | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | Have an OpenStack Days event at the beginning of the week, followed by the ops midcycle. | 15:30 |
| med_ | it takes a lot of commitment (financially and time) to do a meetup or an openstack day | 15:30 |
| med_ | combining is fine. | 15:30 |
| mihalis68 | I am just trying to understand what the proposal is | 15:30 |
| med_ | +1 | 15:30 |
| mihalis68 | I'll take a look at their website again | 15:30 |
| smcginnis | Just thinking it could help with some logistics/planning and might make it a little easier for some to justify going if there were two things instead of one. | 15:30 |
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| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to re-familiarise with OpenStack Days event stuffs | 15:31 |
| mrhillsman | If a day is already being had/done, join it, if not, have meetup as normal in region where day is missing | 15:31 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 15:31 |
| jamesmcarthur | Yes, merging Ops Meetups with OpenStack days provides a lot of opportunities from a funding and space perspective. | 15:31 |
| jamesmcarthur | OpenStack Days Norway have already offered to host the next Ops Meetup... FWIW | 15:31 |
| * med_ can't come up with the ops meetup person's name in the northeast but he runs several | 15:31 | |
| med_ | ? | 15:32 |
| emccormick | OS meetups around here have completely stopped. Not sure why. The guy who ran DC was one of the Openstack East organizers | 15:32 |
| med_ | jamesmcarthur, erm, they haven't in here as far as we know | 15:32 |
| med_ | only bloomberg has been mentioned | 15:32 |
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| med_ | where/when did they volunteer? | 15:32 |
| emccormick | and the Northern Virginia one went dark when Shilla moved to Philly | 15:32 |
| VW | mrhillsman: let's make sure we bring up the meetup/OS days connection and challenges with the latter event in next week's UC meeting | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | jamesmcarthur: When is Norway? | 15:32 |
| jamesmcarthur | med_ they reached out to Denise, who runs OpenStack Days for the Foundation | 15:32 |
| mihalis68 | this is all good info | 15:33 |
| mrhillsman | VW: ++ | 15:33 |
| mihalis68 | I am so pleased we finally have a better attended meeting | 15:33 |
| mrhillsman | Was thinking how we can all get to discuss | 15:33 |
| med_ | jamesmcarthur, thanks for the 411. | 15:33 |
| mihalis68 | I'll be honest, have never been to an OpenStack Days event | 15:33 |
| VW | jamesmcarthur: let's make sure we add OS Days to the list of things we cover while thinking about UC strategic planning at PTG | 15:33 |
| med_ | +100 | 15:33 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: The ones I've attended have been pretty good. Kind of like a mini Summit. | 15:33 |
| mihalis68 | it's not out of the question that we (Bloomberg) might be able to kind of anchor a combined thing | 15:34 |
| mihalis68 | for example get a venue for 3 days | 15:34 |
| mihalis68 | seems like that would open up an opportunity? | 15:34 |
| mihalis68 | is that right? | 15:34 |
| VW | mihalis68: next week's UC meeting is at 18:00 UTC on Monday in #openstack-uc if you, or anyone here would like to join | 15:34 |
| VW | ops meetup is an agenda topic | 15:35 |
| mihalis68 | ok | 15:35 |
| mihalis68 | I might be able to | 15:35 |
| med_ | mihalis68, I support your efforts to get sponsorship for such a thing | 15:35 |
| mihalis68 | ok cool | 15:35 |
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| mihalis68 | ok, any more input on meet up #2 2018? | 15:36 |
| med_ | jamesmcarthur, did the Norway team think spring next year or fall this year and where/who do we follow up with on that? | 15:36 |
| med_ | denise? | 15:36 |
| jamesmcarthur | med_ it'll be fall, but TBD on the final date: http://openstacknordic.org/ | 15:36 |
| mihalis68 | that would be a third in 2018 | 15:36 |
| shintaro | When "fall" in Norway ;p | 15:37 |
| smcginnis | October 18-19 | 15:37 |
| emccormick | Or skip NAM... | 15:37 |
| mihalis68 | intriguing | 15:37 |
| mihalis68 | never been to norway :) | 15:37 |
| jamesmcarthur | smcginnis - that was for 2017 | 15:37 |
| smcginnis | jamesmcarthur: Oh, derp. | 15:37 |
| med_ | so I'm no less confused. | 15:37 |
| jamesmcarthur | I made the same mistake :) | 15:38 |
| emccormick | that's very close to the summit. | 15:38 |
| jamesmcarthur | emccormick: correct. And it's another option to roll the Ops Meetup into the Summit. | 15:38 |
| smcginnis | If it's the same format, that was Thursday-Friday. Could conceivably have Monday for travel, Tue-Wed for ops midcycle, then weekend to fly home. | 15:38 |
| emccormick | not a complete deal-breaker. Just pointing it out | 15:38 |
| med_ | Nordic == all the scandinavian countries afaict and last was in Copenhagen. | 15:38 |
| smcginnis | Or stay and explore. :) | 15:38 |
| mihalis68 | jamesmcarthur the summits are always ops meetups | 15:39 |
| jamesmcarthur | med_ Yeah, I misspoke when I said Norway. Apologies. It's actually a very well funded and well attended event. | 15:39 |
| med_ | lots of corp underwriters. | 15:39 |
| med_ | aka sponsors | 15:39 |
| mihalis68 | the rule of thumb is two summits and two in-betweens are the official ops meetups | 15:39 |
| VW | yeah - jamesmcarthur - I'd like to debate the Opsmeetup/summit bit more. part of the mid-cycle reasoning is to get new operators ingrained in the community so they feel more comfortable at the summits | 15:39 |
| mihalis68 | (in-between formerly known as mid-cycles) | 15:39 |
| VW | and we want more ops folks in Forum sessions versus Ops only | 15:40 |
| mrhillsman | We have Forum at Summit ;) | 15:40 |
| VW | anyway, it's worth a discussion | 15:40 |
| smcginnis | VW: ++ | 15:40 |
| mihalis68 | seems like the norway idea needs more definition | 15:40 |
| med_ | yep | 15:40 |
| mihalis68 | could we move on? | 15:40 |
| jamesmcarthur | VW: understood :) just... options | 15:40 |
| VW | indeed | 15:40 |
| emccormick | +1 | 15:40 |
| VW | yes mihalis68 | 15:40 |
| mihalis68 | #topic Ops Guide Wiki | 15:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ops Guide Wiki (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 15:40 | |
| mrhillsman | It does go to larger discussion we started around how concerns/conversations transfer between all events | 15:41 |
| med_ | I haven't seen real import issues. | 15:41 |
| VW | hey guys, I have to step away early - sorry | 15:41 |
| med_ | A couple of minor quibbles about the headings subheadings etc | 15:41 |
| mihalis68 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide is a wiki conversion of the (fairly old) OpenStack Operators Guide | 15:41 |
| emccormick | take care VW | 15:41 |
| VW | I have two hours of presentations to Account Managers about spectre/meltdown shennigans | 15:41 |
| med_ | lots of issues on content but that's 2ary. | 15:41 |
| mrhillsman | Good luck ;) | 15:41 |
| VW | thanks | 15:41 |
| VW | see you all next week! | 15:41 |
| mihalis68 | med_ has started some comments on this here #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team-guide-review | 15:41 |
| med_ | see you | 15:41 |
| mihalis68 | tata vw | 15:41 |
| mrhillsman | ttyl | 15:41 |
| med_ | (MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN ISSUE TO VOTE ON TIME GOING FORWARD FOR THIS MEETING> SEEMS LIKE LATER WORKS FOR MOST) | 15:42 |
| mihalis68 | my question: is this conversion good enough to break the link back to the source code? | 15:42 |
| med_ | mihalis68, i think so. | 15:42 |
| smcginnis | Looks better than sending folks to source code at least. | 15:42 |
| mrhillsman | ;) | 15:42 |
| med_ | yep, and we can then start updating this as is. | 15:42 |
| smcginnis | And would expect being on the wiki, much easier to get updated. | 15:42 |
| mihalis68 | any other input? The reason to be precise here is if edits start on the wiki version, we can never regen from source without a painful merge | 15:42 |
| med_ | nod. | 15:43 |
| emccormick | I think we're good to cut the cord. | 15:43 |
| med_ | <SNIP> | 15:43 |
| mihalis68 | specifically: anyone think this conversion needs more work (distinct from the content) | 15:43 |
| mihalis68 | #agreed the Ops Guide is approved in wiki form | 15:43 |
| med_ | <crickets> | 15:43 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to share with community and encourage input/comments | 15:43 |
| mihalis68 | med_ if you have wiki edit rights, I think it would be fine for you have at it with gusto | 15:44 |
| med_ | kk | 15:44 |
| med_ | I have (as does anyone with openid) edit rights. | 15:44 |
| med_ | ie, it's a wiki | 15:44 |
| mihalis68 | permissioning on that one is a mystery to me. I seem to have some special powers given to me by Tom when we had to fight spam almost daily | 15:45 |
| med_ | ah | 15:45 |
| mihalis68 | anyway, thanks for the review - parting gift? :) | 15:45 |
| mihalis68 | moving swiftly along... | 15:45 |
| mihalis68 | #topic time of weekly meeting | 15:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "time of weekly meeting (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 15:45 | |
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| emccormick | +1 keeping at 10. I didn't realize how complicated 9 was going to be for me, but as it turns out, it is. | 15:46 |
| mihalis68 | med_ proposed via email to the current team that we make the meeting simply 10am EST, which means it moves in UTC during daylight savings | 15:46 |
| * med_ may have "special" edit rights too.... was formerly a core on one doc tema. | 15:46 | |
| emccormick | eg +1 hour until DST comes | 15:46 |
| emccormick | med_ yes that | 15:46 |
| med_ | that seems to work with the bulk of our usa participants. | 15:46 |
| mihalis68 | shintaro said earlier that if it is better for the team then he's ok with it | 15:46 |
| med_ | and shintaro is at least amenable. | 15:46 |
| shintaro | I'm okay one hour late | 15:46 |
| mihalis68 | it's important as he's our next host and also attends at the worst local hours | 15:47 |
| mihalis68 | (late evening) | 15:47 |
| mihalis68 | so we seem to have agreement | 15:47 |
| med_ | just overcommunicate at DST change that the meeting UTC time will change and make sure it says DST is honored on the wiki where this gets documented. | 15:47 |
| med_ | ie, no longer a UTC based meeting. | 15:47 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to tell the mailing list AND update the wiki about the new time slot | 15:48 |
| mihalis68 | yep | 15:48 |
| mihalis68 | that was easy :) | 15:48 |
| mihalis68 | #topic any other business | 15:48 |
| med_ | now I feel my work here is done. | 15:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "any other business (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 15:48 | |
| med_ | :-) | 15:48 |
| emccormick | med_ Hopefully we'll still see you around. Don't pull an Edgar and go AWS ;) | 15:48 |
| shintaro | thank you med_ | 15:49 |
| smcginnis | Hah | 15:49 |
| mihalis68 | yes thank you med_ | 15:49 |
| mihalis68 | I just hired a senior guy and I believe it's our commitment to openstack that swung it (he had tasty other offers) | 15:49 |
| med_ | excellent. | 15:49 |
| mihalis68 | but then it's a bit easier to stay the course when public cloud is not acceptable | 15:49 |
| mihalis68 | (the owner of my employer just won't have it) | 15:50 |
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| mihalis68 | as chair I want to end ASAP and give back precious time | 15:50 |
| mihalis68 | so ... last call? | 15:50 |
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| mihalis68 | #endmeeting | 15:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion of topics related to operating Openstack infrastructures at scale | Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators | Logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/" | 15:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 30 15:50:51 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-01-30-15.01.html | 15:50 |
| mihalis68 | thanks all! | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-01-30-15.01.txt | 15:50 |
| emccormick | whee | 15:50 |
| shintaro | thank you all | 15:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-01-30-15.01.log.html | 15:50 |
| med_ | thanks mihalis68 shintaro | 15:50 |
| mihalis68 | thank you! | 15:51 |
| emccormick | have a good week. | 15:51 |
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