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| mihalis68 | #startmeeting ops-meetup-team | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 24 14:00:53 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 14:00 |
| smcginnis | Morning o/ | 14:01 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | o/ | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | agenda ^ | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | #topic actions | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "actions (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:01 | |
| mihalis68 | I just made the etherpad for the ops meetup topics at PTG | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | I put it in the section for days 1,2 | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | that's correct, right? | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Queens/Etherpads | 14:02 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: You mean https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Stein/Etherpads ? | 14:02 |
| mrhillsman | Stein ;) | 14:02 |
| mrhillsman | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Stein/Etherpads | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | Ok | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | I guess this is all obvious to the in-crowd | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | but the page I edited isn't dated in any obvious way | 14:03 |
| mrhillsman | i can change real quick | 14:03 |
| mrhillsman | it's dated by the release name | 14:03 |
| spotz | o/ | 14:03 |
| mrhillsman | though one could argue that is not obvious | 14:04 |
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| smcginnis | I agree it's not immediately outwardly obvious. | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | ok I added it to the stein page and removed it from the queens | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | no biggie | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | it's at the bottom now - thoughts? Comments? | 14:05 |
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| emccormick | o/ | 14:05 |
| jamesmca_ | o/ | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | great turnout today folks, thanks so much! | 14:06 |
| smcginnis | Looks good mihalis68 | 14:06 |
| kendallwaters | o/ | 14:06 |
| spotz | Makes sense, might want to put a few headers on it to get conversations started | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | oh definitely | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | the full action was to pre-populate with the most popular recurring or typical topics | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | I will do that today | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | any other actions (honor system - report if you have progress) | 14:07 |
| emccormick | can you pop the link in for me again? I have no history | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Stein/Etherpads | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | bottom of that page | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | so you can see both | 14:08 |
| emccormick | thanks | 14:08 |
| mrhillsman | also #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | As usual please add your name to the attendee list | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | sean I think you finished the discussion with ttx about the scope of the SIG for ops documentation? | 14:10 |
| smcginnis | Yes, some good new there. | 14:10 |
| smcginnis | #link https://docs.openstack.org/operations-guide/ | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | want to explain where it is? Is it basically open for business? | 14:11 |
| smcginnis | \o/ It's alive! | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | that built from the source? | 14:11 |
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| smcginnis | So SIG is official, content is restored to repo, and jobs are in place to publish updates merged to the repo to that official docs.o.o location. | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | (the reason I ask is we put something there made out of manually converted wiki pages previously | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: Were there updates to the wiki based content we should work on getting moved there? | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | No, AFAIK nobody ever changed it in any meaningful way | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: Yep, this is all built from the source in the repo now. | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | that's awesome. All hail Sean! | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: OK, I guess that's good. | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | Hah, no problem. | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | o> | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | Now we just need folks to propose updates for things. | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | that's me saluting | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | yeah, I don't know if I am 100% setup to do this, but I'll action myself to finish getting set up and propose a change | 14:13 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to do a trial proposed change to the operators guide | 14:13 |
| smcginnis | Just let me know if you need any help getting going. | 14:13 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | if Adam Speirs is still offering to rewrite the HA guide, would it fit the mission of this SIG to take over that doc too? | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | (thanks for the offer Sean, definitely much appreciated) | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | We have a small core group that can approve patches to the repo right now that hopefully we can expand once we have more folks participating. | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I think the HA guide would be a good fit too. | 14:14 |
| mrhillsman | from my understanding yes on the ha guide | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | anybody happen to be in touch with Adam already? | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | I met him at the Vancouver deal, but not sure we connected | 14:15 |
| mrhillsman | i can relay message to him | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | super, thanks! | 14:15 |
| mrhillsman | we've talked a few times | 14:15 |
| mrhillsman | welcome | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | #action mrhillsman to ask Adam Speirs if he can still rewrite ha guide | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | the final soon-to-be-orphaned doc is the architecture guide, IIRC | 14:16 |
| mihalis68 | I don't know too much about the status there | 14:16 |
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| mihalis68 | ok. the last action I remember was linking the etherpad to the Ops Meetups team wiki page. I'll do that since Shintaro isn't here this week | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to link PTG planning etherpad (for ops) to the ops meetups team wiki page | 14:18 |
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| mihalis68 | #topic PTG | 14:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:18 | |
| mihalis68 | other than the ops planning etherpad, I don't have anything else to report for PTG | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | anyone else have things we should discuss | 14:18 |
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| smcginnis | Did we ever get a feel for ops attendees? | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | kendallwaters: Do we know from registrations how many are attending the PTG for the ops portion? | 14:20 |
| mihalis68 | hard to determine | 14:20 |
| mrhillsman | kendallwaters maybe you have info, i see jimmy dropped off, or could ping him | 14:21 |
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| mihalis68 | we only got 24 responses in total to the survey | 14:21 |
| kendallwaters | I believe it was around 20-30. I can look again today but this was just us assuming they were Ops. There isn’t a question asking if they are ops or no | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2018-July/015490.html | 14:22 |
| smcginnis | kendallwaters: Cool, that at least gives an idea. Thanks! | 14:23 |
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| mihalis68 | several of us from my employer coming, but not at all booked yet | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | we're up to our ... neck ... in alligators here with production stuff | 14:24 |
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| smcginnis | Still? Was hoping that would have died down for you by now. | 14:24 |
| smcginnis | Job security? ;) | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | yeah we are just suffereing growing pains I'd say | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | which is the kind of problems you want to have | 14:25 |
| smcginnis | Indeed | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | did I mention we're hiring :) | 14:25 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | anyway, once we get a bit of content on the etherpad for ops ptg denver I'll push it out to the mailing list and try to drum up interest | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | Good plan. | 14:26 |
| emccormick | I'm the same way | 14:26 |
| emccormick | not registered yet. My whole team is coming though | 14:26 |
| emccormick | which is just me btw | 14:26 |
| emccormick | :D | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | I think we can skip the docs topic, having covered it well under actions | 14:27 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | the weird thing is, erik can still put away a small TEAM's worth of beer. | 14:27 |
| emccormick | and up to my eyeballs in prod work. Launching this ship tonight so hopefully I'll get a breather after | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | excellent | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | #topic regional event | 14:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "regional event (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:27 | |
| mihalis68 | for context, there is interest in a possible NE USA event later this year | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | obviously a non-conflicting date | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | not on or adjacent to denver timeslot nor berlin | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | so... my question... what kind of time slot are people interested in? | 14:28 |
| smcginnis | That would be good I think. Seems like there are a lot of folks in that region that might not necessarily be able to attend the PTG. | 14:29 |
| smcginnis | October? | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | last week I mentioned the foundation is interested in kicking in a bit of money to help make an "openstack 8th birthday party" happen | 14:29 |
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| mihalis68 | so between denver and berlin? | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | that was actually something that popped into my mind too | 14:29 |
| smcginnis | Although, based on the potential attendees, I suppose any time would work since most are not attending either of those events? | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | who is in favor of trying for a NE USA event specfically between Denver and Berlin? | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | o/ | 14:30 |
| smcginnis | But for personal reasons I would prefer not to have a conflict in case I can fenagle my way out there. | 14:30 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 14:30 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | I'm expected to be at denver and berlin, so i also would like this to be nicely between (or after both) | 14:32 |
| smcginnis | After could work well too. I guess whatever works best for hosting, etc. | 14:32 |
| mihalis68 | Hmm, holiday season openstack party? | 14:32 |
| mihalis68 | cold NYC december weather? Now I'm liking that too, but that may just be due to recent sweaty weather here | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | maybe we should do another survey? | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | and by we I mean me :) | 14:33 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | thoughts on that? | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | (survey community about a possible NE USA event) | 14:34 |
| smcginnis | That might be good. Especially if we have more time for them to fill it out and can try to spread the word to folks in that region. | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | Alright | 14:34 |
| smcginnis | At least we can guage interest that way. | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to make a survey about preferences for a possible NE USA openstack meetup and birthday party | 14:35 |
| spotz | catching up sorry! | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | I will work up the text with the ops meetup team plus anyone else who'd like to be involved | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | btw surveymonkey worked well for the last one, but the free tier is extremely limited and any higher tier is a lot of money | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | if anyone has experience with other online survey sites, I'd welcome any insights | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | in particular making a decent looking survey is free, but any kind of export is $$$ | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | I ended up typing the naked results into an email | 14:36 |
| smcginnis | We have an OpenStack survey instance stood up, but I tried playing around with it and I think it needs a little more work. SurveyMonkey might be better at this point. | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | not that I doubt you, but what's wrong with it? | 14:37 |
| smcginnis | Some functionality didn't seem to be working. Or I need to read more help docs to figure out the right way to use it. | 14:37 |
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| smcginnis | I'll see if I can track that down again and send a link to you mihalis68. Maybe you might have better luck. | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | ah... makes sense to not use then | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | I will give it a go | 14:38 |
| smcginnis | Found it - https://survey.openstack.org/ | 14:39 |
| mihalis68 | I definitely would prefer it to be on our infra | 14:39 |
| spotz | Ok caught up:) I'm tempted with after Summit, but may not be able to attend. Just a lot going on in the fall | 14:39 |
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| smcginnis | Later in Nov or early Dec might work for me. | 14:39 |
| mihalis68 | seems like an idea that's gaining approval. | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | i'll look into what we can do, since we may be able to do parts of it at our building | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | (the party probably not) | 14:40 |
| spotz | I've got PTG, Open Source Summit, Grace Hopper and then OpenStack Summit. Plus a horse show in there:) | 14:41 |
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| mihalis68 | yeah, I did tokyo, iceland, vancouver and London within a 3 month stretch | 14:42 |
| mihalis68 | not as fun as it should have been | 14:42 |
| spotz | I wanna go to London!!!! | 14:42 |
| smcginnis | I second. :) | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | I'd never been to our new (semi-famous) building. It's every bit as crazy as the articles say | 14:43 |
| * smcginnis googles | 14:43 | |
| mihalis68 | when I get more openstack built in london maybe we can host something there | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | we have a dev cluster already | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | Ok, I'm conscious of everyone's time. I think we have covered all the key points that I had in mind for this week. | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | #topic any other business | 14:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "any other business (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:44 | |
| mihalis68 | what have you got, folks? :) | 14:45 |
| smcginnis | Nothing from me. | 14:45 |
| spotz | I'm still catching up from being afk for a week, so nothing here | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | ok last call before I "give" back the 15 minutes | 14:45 |
| mrhillsman | nada | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | duty of good meeting organiser is finish ASAP! | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | ok thanks all | 14:46 |
| mihalis68 | #endmeeting | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion of topics related to operating Openstack infrastructures at scale | Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators | Logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/" | 14:46 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 24 14:46:09 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-07-24-14.00.html | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-07-24-14.00.txt | 14:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-07-24-14.00.log.html | 14:46 |
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| smcginnis | o/ | 14:46 |
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| spotz | Thanks mihalis68 | 14:52 |
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| mihalis68 | good one this week | 14:55 |
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