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mihalis68_ | I'm expecting we'll do an Ops Meetups team meeting in about 40 minutes from now (10am EST) | 14:19 |
smcginnis | o/ | 14:21 |
mrhillsman | o/ | 14:21 |
mihalis68_ | I'll be back here then, meanwhile I made a start on the agenda : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:22 |
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mihalis68_ | I presume the IRC channels are not merging, unlike the email lists? | 14:53 |
mrhillsman | they are not | 14:54 |
mrhillsman | no reduction in IRC channels are currently planned afaik | 14:55 |
mrhillsman | s/are/is | 14:55 |
smcginnis | Yeah, just ML. | 14:55 |
mihalis68_ | #startmeeting ops-meetup-team | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 27 15:00:43 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 15:00 |
smcginnis | o/ | 15:00 |
mihalis68_ | o/ | 15:00 |
smcginnis | Punctual today. :) | 15:01 |
mihalis68_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 15:01 |
mihalis68_ | #topic actions | 15:01 |
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mrhillsman | o/ | 15:01 |
mihalis68_ | the needed final prep steps for the forum sessions got done and those sessions went ahead | 15:01 |
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mihalis68_ | any other actions to report? | 15:01 |
shintaro | hi | 15:01 |
mihalis68_ | good evening, Shintaro! | 15:01 |
shintaro | hi mihalis68 | 15:02 |
mihalis68_ | we're just see if there are any actions to report on | 15:02 |
mihalis68_ | seems not | 15:02 |
mihalis68_ | #topic Berlin wrap-up | 15:02 |
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mihalis68_ | I'd say it mostly went well, except ops docs was in the furthest possible room at an early time late on during the week, and as a result was thinly attended | 15:03 |
mihalis68_ | comments from those who attended? | 15:03 |
smcginnis | That was a long hike. | 15:03 |
mihalis68_ | yes, hit me more than I anticipated | 15:03 |
smcginnis | On the plus side, I think we did have a few key people in there, so it was at least somewhat productive. | 15:03 |
mihalis68_ | and you're further! | 15:03 |
shintaro | we're having our local ops meetup next week. Does anyone have anything that I should ask the attendees? | 15:03 |
mihalis68_ | I agree that ops docs session worked | 15:03 |
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emccormick | o/ | 15:04 |
mihalis68_ | howdy | 15:04 |
mihalis68_ | we are just discussing how Berlin went | 15:04 |
smcginnis | shintaro: Great, I hope the event goes well. | 15:04 |
mihalis68_ | the ceph session I moderated was full | 15:04 |
mihalis68_ | although it veered towards presentation again | 15:04 |
shintaro | I want to bring up some topics from the Forum session. Docs will be one of them for sure. | 15:05 |
mihalis68_ | Shintaro I guess I'd be interested to know if there would be interest in your community in attending anything in europe in first half of 2019, and/or NA in second half | 15:05 |
shintaro | ah yes. I should ask that. | 15:06 |
mihalis68_ | i'd also like to know if they will be subscribing to the merged mailing list | 15:06 |
mihalis68_ | i feel like we don't connect with the operators community in some parts, particularly not on the old openstack-operators dedicated list | 15:06 |
shintaro | I agree about that | 15:06 |
mrhillsman | it is probably too late but if not i suggest throwing out a email to the discuss ML for any feedback folks would like from ops attendees they felt they did not get during the summit | 15:07 |
mihalis68_ | if there are suggestions on how news could be disseminated I'm sure we could adjust/extend how we share out updates, anouncements etc | 15:07 |
smcginnis | I'd also love to hear if there's any tips out of the smaller event on format and content that we should incorporate into our larger events. | 15:07 |
shintaro | yes I like to discuss how we can bring outputs from local discussions to wider community. | 15:08 |
mihalis68_ | So the "ops meetups team" produced 3 Forum sessions | 15:09 |
mihalis68_ | is there any feedback on how we did? | 15:09 |
mihalis68_ | good or bad? | 15:09 |
mihalis68_ | mhillsman, for example, any thoughts? | 15:09 |
mrhillsman | 3 was definitely well below the normal | 15:09 |
emccormick | It was our lightest contribution to the forum yet, but there was a much shorter schedule this time | 15:09 |
emccormick | what with Keynotes for 2 / 3 days and all | 15:10 |
smcginnis | Yeah, that went fast. | 15:10 |
mihalis68_ | one thing that didn't happen was a dedicated ops social event. We simply stayed at the marketplace mixer for the duration | 15:10 |
emccormick | That would be my only negative comment on the forum from an Ops perspective | 15:10 |
shintaro | we had quite a number of people for onboarding session. | 15:10 |
emccormick | I previously spent almost my entire summit in forum sessions. Not so this time | 15:10 |
mrhillsman | we have discussed in uc meeting how we can do better and the decision was to reach out to ML for etherpads where folks felt they wanted more ops input | 15:10 |
mrhillsman | use that to create an etherpad to send to ML frequently for ops feedback | 15:11 |
emccormick | The ML has been really bad at garnering Ops feedback lately | 15:12 |
smcginnis | Hard to tell at this point how the Open Infrastructure Forum will shape up with a 3 day Summit followed by a 3 day PTG. | 15:12 |
emccormick | the past 3 cycles or so it's like pulling teeth | 15:12 |
mihalis68_ | My feeling is there's a communication disconnect somewhere | 15:13 |
emccormick | agreed | 15:13 |
mihalis68_ | obviously you're allowed to be someone running openstack infra without being on the mailing list | 15:13 |
emccormick | Might be helpful to talk to meetup organizers to encourage local attendees to subscribe | 15:13 |
mihalis68_ | that "works" much better than being an OS dev | 15:13 |
mrhillsman | i think at least one of the issues is inconsistent comms | 15:13 |
shintaro | My understanding on mrhillsman's idea was to give local meetup groups a common place to gather their opinion/feedback | 15:13 |
emccormick | maybe some "getting involved" presentation at the smaller events | 15:14 |
mrhillsman | and not enough comms | 15:14 |
mrhillsman | at least from the uc discussions we think those two things are critical | 15:15 |
mihalis68_ | We do mostly mailing list updates with sprinkles of tweets here and there | 15:15 |
emccormick | I wonder if a large chunk of the operators are coming from enterprise backgrounds where they're used to being siloed | 15:15 |
mihalis68_ | what else would you suggest? | 15:15 |
emccormick | They just reach out to vendors when they need support | 15:15 |
smcginnis | You're probably right emccormick | 15:15 |
emccormick | but now they're in an opensource community but continue to operate in that enterprise mode | 15:15 |
emccormick | which doesn't work. | 15:15 |
emccormick | They just pop onto a mailing list or ask.openstack.org when things break | 15:16 |
mrhillsman | i could see that | 15:16 |
mrhillsman | so i think there are two things and i am def ok with anyone wanting to help of course in any way | 15:16 |
emccormick | That doesn't solve the problem I realize, but perhaps working on the cultural issue will garner more participation | 15:16 |
mrhillsman | we have the ops meetup team (i forget what you call a team's focus or what not) and then the broader community aspect | 15:17 |
emccormick | I think we did well dragging T-Mobile into the mix this past summit :) | 15:17 |
mrhillsman | for the ops meetup team, i just think we went through a tough time the last 6 months or so, but are back on a good track, and we just want to communicate earlier and more frequently | 15:17 |
emccormick | we need to do that with more of these big orgs | 15:17 |
mrhillsman | for the community wide aspect, ... | 15:18 |
mihalis68_ | t-mobile? I thought it was deutsche telekom? | 15:18 |
emccormick | same same | 15:18 |
mihalis68_ | ah ok | 15:18 |
emccormick | I"m lazy and didn't want to type Deutsche Telekom | 15:18 |
mrhillsman | lol | 15:18 |
emccormick | :D | 15:18 |
smcginnis | DT, even shorter. ;) | 15:19 |
mihalis68_ | mrhillsman did you have a following thought on connecting better with the wider community? | 15:19 |
mrhillsman | it is a difficult problem, but i think the current best solution is to simply start communicating with them more often and bubble up concerns | 15:20 |
emccormick | I would love to see the UC reach out to more of the big orgs that send people to summits but we never hear from in between | 15:20 |
mihalis68_ | I'm thinking we may need to do a recruitement campaign | 15:21 |
mihalis68_ | https://imgflip.com/i/2njxb1 | 15:21 |
mrhillsman | maybe we could float a 3 question email for a couple months | 15:21 |
emccormick | or those that are both upstream contributors and ops | 15:21 |
mrhillsman | yeah, better wording mihalis68_ | 15:21 |
mrhillsman | and grow from there | 15:21 |
emccormick | AT&T, OVH, City Networks, Vexxhost, etc. | 15:21 |
mihalis68_ | there's an actual impediment in communicating with "them" | 15:22 |
mrhillsman | start small because honestly i get overwhelmed with the fragmentation and trying to strategize on it from holistic viewpoint | 15:22 |
mihalis68_ | I don't know who they are, I don't have their email addresses | 15:22 |
emccormick | They like to contribute things but from an ops perspective they're invisible | 15:22 |
mihalis68_ | does my meme link work? | 15:22 |
mrhillsman | hehe, it does | 15:22 |
emccormick | hehe nice | 15:22 |
shintaro | How about public cloud WG and scientific WG ? aren't they ops? | 15:22 |
mrhillsman | i like it | 15:22 |
mrhillsman | yes shintaro they are | 15:23 |
emccormick | shintaro Yes definitely | 15:23 |
emccormick | Those guys should be part of Ops discussions too. Some are for sure, but others are invisible | 15:23 |
mrhillsman | not to beat a dead horse; cause it's just wrong | 15:23 |
shintaro | I wonder if they are interested in having a session at the ops meetup | 15:23 |
smcginnis | It would be great if they did. | 15:24 |
mrhillsman | but the reason we thought reaching out to folks regarding etherpads they would have liked more ops feedback on and then pushing that for some time is that it would hopefully a) create connection for ops (i am involved and have a voice) and b) with that create a thread from event to event to keep conversation going (event to event being all/any event types) | 15:25 |
emccormick | I think it's a fine idea. | 15:25 |
emccormick | I just fear that your response will be crickets as things stand right now | 15:26 |
emccormick | but give it a go and let's see what comes back. | 15:26 |
mihalis68_ | are you willing to try that out mrhillsman? | 15:27 |
mrhillsman | personally when i was sitting in ops role day to day i found interacting with community not as beneficial because a) discussions were just discussions and never really landed, and b) by landing i mean resolution beyond code (monitoring tools, deployment, etc) | 15:27 |
mrhillsman | VW_ actually initiated the discussion and took on that action item | 15:27 |
mrhillsman | however as a fellow uc member we all (uc) are participating when he initiates it | 15:28 |
mihalis68_ | Does anyone happen to know if SuperUser has written up the great email merger? | 15:28 |
shintaro | How about feedback for deployment tools which we discussed during the Forum session? | 15:28 |
smcginnis | I don't believe so. (superuser) | 15:28 |
shintaro | I think just email notification | 15:29 |
mihalis68_ | I think it's an opportunity to try and attract people into that list who maybe didn't feel like joining the previous highly specialized lists | 15:30 |
VW_ | hey folks - I'm here | 15:30 |
VW_ | working a couple of things at the same time | 15:30 |
shintaro | hi VW | 15:30 |
mihalis68_ | We've spent quite a bit of time discusssing several things which boil down to : participation is low and getting lower, yet there are clearly a lot of people out there running openstack, so the operators exist | 15:31 |
VW_ | I'll craft an email to the mailing list this week | 15:31 |
mihalis68_ | mrhillsman tells us you have an initiative to try and connect the community more | 15:31 |
mihalis68_ | well, I think there's a problem : the mailing list doesn't go to some of the people we want to connect with | 15:32 |
mrhillsman | VW_ as always let me know if you need me to help; i figured you were quite busy | 15:32 |
mrhillsman | agreed mihalis68_ | 15:32 |
mrhillsman | it is first step | 15:32 |
mihalis68_ | I'm thinking there should be a bit of a splash around the merged mailing list, perhaps a SuperUser article and communication by the foundation | 15:32 |
smcginnis | I wonder for the ops folks here that are involved and are getting value out of it, maybe it would be good to have a SuperUser article written about your experiences and the benefits you see from it. | 15:32 |
mrhillsman | another step for example is to hit up the meetup groups directly | 15:32 |
VW_ | no, I can get it out there. The hard part is we need to know what things they may want more feedback on now, but have to wait till March to make the sessions at the Ops meetup | 15:32 |
VW_ | but I'll start the conversation | 15:33 |
mrhillsman | ok cool | 15:33 |
mrhillsman | i think once we get some momentum, which we have had a few times before, we should double down on keeping it | 15:33 |
mihalis68_ | can the UC request that superuser do some journalism and get the story of the mailing list out? or do they mostly just get topic suggestions from authors? | 15:34 |
mrhillsman | i will ping jeremy and nicole about it after meeting mihalis68_ | 15:34 |
mrhillsman | i think it is a great suggestion | 15:34 |
mihalis68_ | I hope that doesn't sound negative, I'm asking about their remit, not criticizing | 15:34 |
mihalis68_ | ok cool | 15:34 |
mihalis68_ | jeremy is the admin, right? | 15:34 |
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mrhillsman | i think so, i know he has the most information afaik about it | 15:35 |
mrhillsman | from reading emails | 15:35 |
mihalis68_ | ok can I action you on that? | 15:35 |
smcginnis | He at least helps a lot and can get in touch with the right person. | 15:35 |
mrhillsman | so i figured he would be best, nicole is SU editor-in-chief | 15:35 |
mrhillsman | yes sir | 15:35 |
mihalis68_ | yeah I worked with nicole on our article about docs | 15:35 |
mihalis68_ | #action mrhillsman to suggest to superuser editor and jeremy stanley an article about the mailing list merge | 15:36 |
mihalis68_ | *merger | 15:36 |
mrhillsman | thx | 15:36 |
mihalis68_ | #info VW is planning to pick up the conversation about ops feedback to rest of openstack community via email to mailing list | 15:36 |
mihalis68_ | I'd like to move the topic on because there's some news/progress | 15:37 |
mihalis68_ | #topic ops docs | 15:37 |
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mihalis68_ | the summary is in the etherpad, but I think we agreed that the arch guide is "worthy" and should be assimilated | 15:38 |
emccormick | And needs less work than the rest. | 15:38 |
mrhillsman | ++ | 15:38 |
mihalis68_ | smcginnis can you do that? Is it a lot of work? Just the move bit? | 15:38 |
smcginnis | I haven't checked yet, but I assume that's under openstack-manuals. | 15:39 |
smcginnis | Yeah, I can get things moved over like I did for the other ones. Then others can focus on getting the content updated. | 15:39 |
mihalis68_ | great | 15:39 |
mihalis68_ | #action smcginnis will look into moving the arch guide to enable others to update it going forwards | 15:39 |
mihalis68_ | we also discussed and tentatively agreed to break out ops docs into a separate IRC meeting | 15:40 |
mihalis68_ | perhaps monthly | 15:40 |
mihalis68_ | I'd be up for that | 15:40 |
mihalis68_ | there's a way to formalise a new regular IRC meeting, so if we have support for the idea I'll put in that submission | 15:41 |
mihalis68_ | I think part of the motivation is Adam Speirs is deep into the HA Guide rewrite but doesn't attend the ops meetups team meetings | 15:41 |
smcginnis | That makes sense. We've discussed here, mostly because of interested folks. But really not part of "ops meetup". | 15:42 |
mihalis68_ | yeah | 15:42 |
mihalis68_ | ops docs is a SIG after all | 15:42 |
mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68_ to setup the monthly IRC meeting for the ops docs SIG | 15:42 |
shintaro | SIG makes sence | 15:42 |
mihalis68_ | there's nothing like a meeting coming up to focus my attention on getting something actually done | 15:43 |
smcginnis | Haha, true. | 15:43 |
mihalis68_ | I will update the mailing list when I've done that | 15:43 |
mrhillsman | hehe | 15:43 |
mihalis68_ | the other thing I wanted to mention, just for the humor aspect: Erik learned the tools and submitted a patch to the operators guide | 15:43 |
mihalis68_ | immediately turned down :P | 15:44 |
mihalis68_ | (ok ok I'm exaggerating, sean suggested an edit) | 15:44 |
mrhillsman | lol | 15:44 |
mihalis68_ | ok enough on that | 15:44 |
mihalis68_ | #topic meetups 2019 | 15:44 |
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mihalis68_ | I just spotted that there's a proposal! | 15:44 |
mihalis68_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-venue-discuss-1st-2019-berlin | 15:44 |
smcginnis | Woot! | 15:45 |
mihalis68_ | February or March, Berlin. | 15:45 |
smcginnis | It's a great location and venue. Was there for another meeting before the Summit. | 15:45 |
mrhillsman | yeah, i read over it, nice to see it already up | 15:45 |
mrhillsman | agree with smcginnis | 15:45 |
mihalis68_ | It's been a while, but IIRC our procedure should be to share this proposal as widely as possible with the community and then see if there's any competing offer | 15:46 |
mrhillsman | ++ | 15:46 |
mrhillsman | yep, spot on | 15:46 |
mihalis68_ | if not we just ask for feedback on the mailing list, and then finally if no objections agree to the proposal here and record it and then it's pretty much a done deal | 15:46 |
shintaro | +1 | 15:46 |
mihalis68_ | (if competing offers, we do a poll, but I don't see that happening, quite franky) | 15:46 |
mihalis68_ | ok, this is exciting | 15:47 |
mrhillsman | do we want to set a time for a) competing offers and b) feedback before a vote | 15:47 |
mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68 to share the proposal with the community | 15:47 |
smcginnis | End of December? Would be great to give DT a final go ahead so they can do any prep they need on their end. | 15:47 |
mrhillsman | ^ | 15:47 |
mihalis68_ | We do want to settle more quickly, to avoid the problems of last minute handling of the important stuff like technical agenda and moderators | 15:47 |
smcginnis | mihalis68_: Any update on potential Bloomberg hosting that you can talk about? | 15:48 |
smcginnis | Given the (lack of) activity, maybe we just make it a couple weeks before we finalize? | 15:48 |
smcginnis | Get it done before the holidays. | 15:48 |
mrhillsman | i also remember saying that i would shore up moderator wrangling if that is still something we want me to do | 15:48 |
mihalis68_ | There's an update that I don't understand where they seem to be asking for dates again | 15:48 |
emccormick | Did we want to ask if they were planning on proposing Budapest still and if Berlin was their preference? | 15:49 |
mihalis68_ | I'll have to clarify what's going on there | 15:49 |
smcginnis | That would be great mrhillsman | 15:49 |
emccormick | We put a placeholder there since they mentioned it, but should we be sure they didn't just forget? | 15:49 |
mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68 to get clarity on bloomberg's potential for hostinv | 15:49 |
mihalis68_ | how about we pencil in end of december deadline subject to updates next week? | 15:50 |
spotz | hey all sorry I'm so late got busy with other things | 15:50 |
mrhillsman | ++ mihalis68_ | 15:50 |
mrhillsman | o/ spotz | 15:50 |
emccormick | o/ | 15:50 |
mihalis68_ | hi spotz | 15:50 |
mihalis68_ | so really good news about meetup #1 2019 | 15:51 |
emccormick | mihalis68_ Do you want to ping our DT friends and see if they want to put in a proposal for Budapest still or just roll with Berlin only? | 15:51 |
smcginnis | Yeah, great to have something on the table. | 15:51 |
mihalis68_ | we'll get the word out about it and see if it meets with approval from the community, particularly the european community | 15:52 |
mihalis68_ | I would think if they have a proposal for a time and place, that's their preference, no? | 15:52 |
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emccormick | Well they mentioned both at the forum session so *shrug* | 15:52 |
mihalis68_ | it seems to me that this proposal could be highlighted in a SuperUser article, if we can get one going | 15:53 |
mihalis68_ | it's great to have news in such things | 15:53 |
emccormick | I have no objections at all to Berlin. I still have half the menu to get through at my favorite restaurant :D | 15:53 |
smcginnis | :) | 15:53 |
mihalis68_ | "hey everyone, there's a merged mailing list now, and here's a meetup we'll be discussing there!" | 15:53 |
emccormick | Just didn't want to leave it out if they wanted it considered | 15:53 |
smcginnis | Another pub crawl emccormick? :) | 15:53 |
mihalis68_ | I'd love to see Budapest but I'd just feel weird saying "waitaminit, berlin? I thought we were going to be invited to budapest!" | 15:54 |
emccormick | I like my drinking to be stationary I think ;). | 15:54 |
emccormick | more drinky less walky | 15:54 |
smcginnis | Probably safer that way. | 15:54 |
smcginnis | mihalis68_: Hah, true. If they only proposed Berlin, I'm perfectly fine with that. | 15:54 |
emccormick | especially given my issues stumbling around in the dark | 15:54 |
mihalis68_ | emccormick I'll see you safely back to base again | 15:55 |
emccormick | okie doke | 15:55 |
emccormick | BALLARD! | 15:55 |
mihalis68_ | I'm pretty excited by all this | 15:55 |
emccormick | hehe | 15:55 |
spotz | Sweet so glad my idea for you to join the two events is working out!!! | 15:55 |
mihalis68_ | #topic any other business | 15:55 |
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smcginnis | Nothing on my end. | 15:56 |
mihalis68_ | I'm interviewing someone in a couple of minutes so please speak up now with any further discussion items | 15:56 |
shintaro | nothing from me | 15:56 |
emccormick | Nothing further from me. | 15:56 |
mihalis68_ | last call | 15:56 |
smcginnis | Thanks everyone | 15:56 |
mihalis68_ | agreed. Good meeting | 15:56 |
mihalis68_ | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 27 15:56:56 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-11-27-15.00.html | 15:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-11-27-15.00.txt | 15:57 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-11-27-15.00.log.html | 15:57 |
shintaro | thank you all | 15:57 |
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mihalis68_ | I'll share these links to the new list in a bit after my interview | 15:57 |
smcginnis | Hope it goes well. | 15:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Erik McCormick proposed openstack/operations-guide master: Update Horizon Admin Guide URL https://review.openstack.org/617344 | 16:02 |
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