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mihalis68_ | mihalis68_, spotz, emccormick, mrhillsman, med_, smcginnis | 14:29 |
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mihalis68_ | meeting in 30 minutes and meetup next week | 14:29 |
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smcginnis | That came up fast. | 14:34 |
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mihalis68_ | Yeah :( | 14:49 |
emccormick | o/ | 14:54 |
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mihalis68_ | o/ | 14:57 |
mihalis68_ | #startmeeting ops-meetup-team | 14:59 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 26 14:59:16 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:59 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:59 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 14:59 |
aprice | o/ if anything is needed - mainly wondering if i need to share the reg list with anyone? | 14:59 |
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mihalis68_ | how many do we have? | 14:59 |
aprice | 18 | 14:59 |
shintaro | o/ | 14:59 |
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mihalis68_ | disappointing turnout | 15:00 |
smcginnis | o/ | 15:00 |
mihalis68_ | I don't know if Frank has plans to make badges for the attendees | 15:01 |
mihalis68_ | I can go get some plastic holders from staples if needed and just bring them with me | 15:01 |
smcginnis | 18 does seem pretty low. I was hoping with the area and things this would have ended up a larger event. | 15:01 |
mihalis68_ | people somewhat near can still opt to buy a ticket and attend | 15:02 |
mihalis68_ | but yeah | 15:02 |
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mihalis68_ | aprice i think it would be good to share the registration list with the hosts, frank kloeker and nils magnus (see the attendees listed here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-ops-meetup) | 15:03 |
mihalis68_ | if they need help with badges they can reach out. Nothing fancy is required | 15:03 |
aprice | mihalis68_ ok, can do | 15:04 |
spotz | Morning | 15:04 |
mihalis68_ | g'morning spotz | 15:04 |
mihalis68_ | we only have 18 attendees for next week, kinda disappointing | 15:04 |
spotz | I still can’t believe it’s next week:( | 15:05 |
mihalis68_ | we have a good selection of topics listed on the planning etherpad, but haven't converted those into an agenda just yet | 15:05 |
shintaro | Unfortunately, I couldn't make it this time. But I'm sending two members from my team. | 15:05 |
mihalis68_ | understood | 15:05 |
mihalis68_ | #link #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 15:05 |
mihalis68_ | you can see two etherpads I made for topics I'm offering to moderate | 15:05 |
emccormick | still pretty short on topic choices | 15:06 |
emccormick | thanks for getting yours together chris. I'll try and do a couple today. | 15:06 |
mihalis68_ | I think we will need to work on the agenda by email between now and next week. I'm suggesting we work through topics that have moderators that will be there and submit them to the mailing list when they have an etherpad and unless there's objections build up the list of approved items that way | 15:07 |
emccormick | I'm going to break out the container thing into two. One will be general deployment tools talk, and the other can be running containers / k8s on openstack | 15:07 |
mihalis68_ | a topic with some +1s, a moderator who will be there and an etherpad seems "well formed" | 15:07 |
mihalis68_ | +1 | 15:07 |
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emccormick | oh good, we got 2 more moderator volunteers. So we're up to 4 :/ | 15:08 |
mihalis68_ | aprice can the foundation repeat the tweets and whatnot about next week's event? It's within reach for locals still, if a bit of a stretch for people from north america and/or apac to book now | 15:08 |
mihalis68_ | but it was always intended to be mostly for the folks in europe | 15:08 |
mihalis68_ | others with social media reach of any level should also retweet the event. There could well be people who book later than me even | 15:09 |
mihalis68_ | sean for example has a decently high profile amongst the target audience | 15:10 |
mihalis68_ | I don't know if targetted messages to the european operators went out, not being one myself | 15:10 |
smcginnis | Not sure about that, but I've just tweeted about it again. | 15:10 |
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mihalis68_ | is everyone ok with the proposed process for agreeing the topics? | 15:12 |
spotz | Yes | 15:12 |
smcginnis | ++ | 15:13 |
shintaro | +1 | 15:13 |
mihalis68_ | I'm going to try and pull together popular topics, start etherpads, see if the volunteers are comfortable with them and make a talk list. In the past we did make a fixed agenda, but it's quite hard to do. With 18 we can perhaps just work from the list and get through them as seems natural | 15:13 |
mihalis68_ | a style inspired by PTG, even if we don't have a bot and irc! | 15:13 |
emccormick | yes | 15:13 |
smcginnis | You'll have the mihalis68_bot | 15:14 |
mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68 to pull together the agenda and try to get moderators for topics. Approval is via mailing the openstack-discuss list with well-formed talks | 15:14 |
mihalis68_ | oh... yes... him | 15:14 |
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emccormick | make sure Frank knows so he doesn't order food for 100 *heh* | 15:15 |
mihalis68_ | other than final arrangements with the hosts (attendee list and badges) and the technical agenda, the only other thing I had for today's meeting is to say that there will not be this meeting next week, as at least two of us will be in transit | 15:16 |
emccormick | with 18 we could just order pizza | 15:16 |
mihalis68_ | any other business for this here meeting? There is a lot to do but not so much to discuss here, I'd say | 15:16 |
emccormick | well by 10am EDT I'll be firmly in place in Berlin | 15:16 |
emccormick | We can have it at a biergarten | 15:17 |
mihalis68_ | I can't promise, as I suspect I might be trying to nap | 15:17 |
emccormick | You know what 18 might be a good number for? | 15:17 |
emccormick | An Ops Guide sprint | 15:17 |
smcginnis | Hah, I like how you think. ;) | 15:18 |
spotz | That would be nice | 15:18 |
gtema | there might be 19, since I haven't booked yet (trying to find a hotel) | 15:18 |
mihalis68_ | hi Artem, glad you're joining us! | 15:18 |
emccormick | gtema Super. Look forward to seeing you | 15:18 |
mihalis68_ | We were in berlin in late 2018 and anything near the train line seems to work really well | 15:18 |
emccormick | Yeah hotels are a little dicey. I'm over by Alexanderplatz | 15:18 |
emccormick | fortunately I learned the trains last time I was there so it's not too scary ;) | 15:19 |
mihalis68_ | the train was frequent, cheap, and with google maps I was able to use it without any german-language skills | 15:19 |
smcginnis | I had great luck with an Airbnb for the Summit. | 15:19 |
spotz | Air in Berlin was near the zoo and family run | 15:19 |
mihalis68_ | idea: put the agenda into first 1.5 days, call day 2 afternoon a sprint. This allows some people to slope off earlier if they are traveling (energy tends to lag by day 2 afternoon) | 15:20 |
emccormick | oh, and I finally figured out why the hotels are so pricey | 15:21 |
mihalis68_ | competing event? | 15:21 |
emccormick | And I blame a friend of mine | 15:21 |
emccormick | ITB 2019 | 15:21 |
emccormick | big travel show | 15:21 |
gtema | yes - Travel Messe | 15:21 |
emccormick | and a friend of mine from here does those things. | 15:22 |
emccormick | Nice that she'll be there at the same time, but damnit it's made everything wicked pricey | 15:22 |
mihalis68_ | good to know, but we do have the efficient public transport helping connect the venue with affordable hotels | 15:23 |
emccormick | and +1 to the 1.5 days -> sprint | 15:23 |
smcginnis | Yeah, that sounds like a good plan. | 15:23 |
emccormick | yep. Also it gets cheaper later in the week, so my extended stay will cost half what the first 2 days will | 15:23 |
mihalis68_ | I will sketch out a 2-day agenda once we have the popular topics "built" | 15:23 |
emccormick | blessedly | 15:23 |
smcginnis | Good to have some flexible time too to be able to adjust for the actual audience that shows up. | 15:24 |
mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68 to find out from Frank about badges. If necessary I'll make them and bring them | 15:24 |
emccormick | I actually have the emergency backup ones I bought for CDMX I think | 15:24 |
emccormick | will dig in my drawer and see if that's so | 15:25 |
mihalis68_ | gtema if you need help with arrangements for berlin, the hosts have been very helpful with answering general questions. I can connect you with them if you want advice on anything | 15:25 |
gtema | I know Frank - we work in "same" company | 15:26 |
mihalis68_ | ah, ok perfect! | 15:26 |
gtema | but prices and vacant places are a problem | 15:26 |
gtema | "company budget limits" | 15:26 |
mihalis68_ | understood. Unfortunately the ops meetups team can only work with offers, including dates, that we receive | 15:27 |
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mihalis68_ | this was the offer | 15:27 |
emccormick | I see airbnbs from ~$100 USD | 15:27 |
emccormick | so like..90 EUR? | 15:27 |
smcginnis | My apartment was huge and relatively cheap for the summit. | 15:28 |
gtema | "unfortunately" Telekom has partnership with lots of hotels and special prices (up to 75€) and everything above need a very special approval | 15:28 |
mihalis68_ | hi jamesmcarthur, can the foundation push out announcements about this event next week again? I realise it's late but there may be some potential last-minute attendees, especially regional | 15:28 |
jamesmcarthur | mihalis68_ I'll talk to aprice and see what we can do :) | 15:29 |
mihalis68_ | greatly appreciated as always | 15:29 |
jamesmcarthur | np! how are the numbers looking so far? | 15:29 |
mihalis68_ | around 20 | 15:29 |
mihalis68_ | low but workable | 15:30 |
aprice | mihalis_ we have it in the newsletter for this week and can plan to continue to promote on social media as well | 15:30 |
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mihalis68_ | great! | 15:31 |
aprice | ill also keep yall updated if there are any registration spikes | 15:31 |
mihalis68_ | yes, please | 15:32 |
spotz | I was gonna suggest my hotel and 6/7 are the only days sold out:( | 15:32 |
mihalis68_ | the place I stayed at had apartments for reasonable hotel rates. Mine was for up to 4 people. Maybe companies sending multiple people can double up in such places | 15:35 |
emccormick | That place is like $250 / night right now. When we stayed there it was $80 ;) | 15:36 |
spotz | eeep | 15:36 |
mihalis68_ | darn | 15:36 |
mihalis68_ | Hotel: ADAGIO BERLIN KURFURSTENDAMM just for the record | 15:37 |
mihalis68_ | behind and attached to ABBA hotel | 15:37 |
mihalis68_ | well, it's kind of set now | 15:37 |
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emccormick | yep :). OFf we go! | 15:38 |
emccormick | anything else need covering? | 15:38 |
mihalis68_ | any other business? Else we can get back to making some more etherpads and volunteering people to own them | 15:38 |
mihalis68_ | last call | 15:38 |
mihalis68_ | alright... thanks all, see some you in person next week! | 15:39 |
mihalis68_ | #endmeeting | 15:39 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Topics related to operating OpenStack infrastructure | Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/ | Next Ops Meetup March 6-7 in Berlin: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-ops-meetup" | 15:39 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 26 15:39:22 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:39 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-02-26-14.59.html | 15:39 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-02-26-14.59.txt | 15:39 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-02-26-14.59.log.html | 15:39 |
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smcginnis | Thanks everyone! Have a good meetup in Berlin. Wish I could be there. | 15:39 |
emccormick | see you there :) | 15:39 |
mihalis68_ | we will miss you for sure Sean | 15:40 |
shintaro | Thank you all. I'm sure my members can help out some of the moderations | 15:40 |
mihalis68_ | Could I ask you to confirm that and if so have their names on the list of moderators please? | 15:41 |
spotz | Thanks all, have fun and don't catch a cold like I did last week in Luxembourg | 15:41 |
shintaro | I can see Sampath on the list already. | 15:41 |
shintaro | I will ask the other to add his name too | 15:42 |
mihalis68_ | Thank you! | 15:42 |
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smcginnis | mihalis68_, emccormick, spotz: I wonder if we should have a goal to lock down the next ops meetup location within a month of Berlin so we can really get ahead of planning and publicizing things. | 20:12 |
smcginnis | Just thinking, ideally it might be nice to be able to announce at one meetup when and where the next one will be so folks can start socializing it with other ops and their managers. | 20:12 |
spotz | smcginnis: Not a bad idea, I know mihalis68_ has been talking to his work | 20:14 |
smcginnis | Maybe easier said than done to get things set that far ahead, but might be a good goal to work towards. | 20:15 |
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mihalis68_ | this was a goal this time. Not to whine, but we heard about berlin, no budapest, ok maybe berlin | 20:15 |
mihalis68_ | then the date changed | 20:15 |
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mihalis68_ | until it's nailed down, nothing else actually progresses | 20:16 |
smcginnis | Yeah... | 20:16 |
spotz | I think we've done what we can as a group | 20:16 |
smcginnis | Maybe we need to push volunteering orgs that options are nice, but just give one that will work for them and let's work towards that. | 20:17 |
mihalis68_ | this time berlin has proven to be a problem. It trampled on day 2 of the original dates, and then it turns out the hotels are all booked anyway | 20:17 |
mihalis68_ | not even DT's fault! | 20:18 |
mihalis68_ | (in case that seems like a veiled criticism, we did encounter difficulties with intel's on-again, off-again support for the mexico one) | 20:18 |
smcginnis | Yeah. Seems there's always extenuating circumstances with these. | 20:18 |
mihalis68_ | also, every single member of the team does it in addition to a full slate of other things, typically full-time day job, family etc etc | 20:19 |
spotz | Well they're large target audiences though at the same time they are and they're just not widely known about | 20:20 |
spotz | they're not.. | 20:20 |
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spotz | We just don't have insight into everyone who runs OpenStack to suggest it might be nice for their OPS teams | 20:20 |
smcginnis | mihalis68_: I'd say if Bloomberg would be on board for hosting 2019 part 2, let's skip the call for offers and just take that and run with it. | 20:21 |
mihalis68_ | yeah, someone get on tha.. ok forget I spoke | 20:22 |
smcginnis | :) | 20:22 |
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