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| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed x/osops-tools-contrib master: osa: add tool to cleanup host https://review.opendev.org/662436 | 11:48 |
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| smcginnis | mihalis68_, emccormick, and others - there's a mailing list thread on openstack-discuss (see "[tc][ops] reviving osops- repos") that I think could use some input from actual operators. | 13:27 |
| smcginnis | I haven't replied to the thread, but am curious if my take from here (http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2019-05-30.log.html#t2019-05-30T20:00:26) is legitimate or not with your experience. | 13:28 |
| emccormick | smcginnis I have a reply in progress | 13:28 |
| smcginnis | emccormick: Great! Thanks Eric. | 13:28 |
| smcginnis | *s/c/k/ | 13:29 |
| smcginnis | :) | 13:29 |
| emccormick | That IRC thread is interesting. I personally am unconcerned with appearances given by the location of a repo. I'm more concerned with the visibility of what's in it so it provides the most utility to the most people. | 13:32 |
| emccormick | I don't see a good train for it *not* to be under ipenstack/ though | 13:33 |
| emccormick | openstack/ too | 13:33 |
| smcginnis | Great input then. I think it ultimately doesn't matter as long as we have a way to promote it and make it visible and useful. | 13:34 |
| * mnaser doesn't really care either | 13:34 | |
| mnaser | just unsure on how this can be under openstack/ | 13:34 |
| smcginnis | If it's community supported work that's owned by a SIG, then I think the namespace should be fine. | 13:35 |
| smcginnis | Personally I kind of like the -ops to make it more clear what type of content can be found there, but meh. | 13:35 |
| emccormick | It's already technically owned by a WG | 13:39 |
| mnaser | smcginnis: right but is there an 'operators' sig or something? I couldn't find a reasonable 'home' | 13:39 |
| emccormick | A dormant one mind you, but it's there | 13:39 |
| smcginnis | We could probably morph the ops-docs one to be more general if there isn't something set up already, but I thought like emccormick there was something existing. | 13:40 |
| mnaser | https://governance.openstack.org/sigs/ | 13:40 |
| mnaser | didn't see any 'ops' or something | 13:40 |
| emccormick | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Osops | 13:40 |
| emccormick | It predates any such formal organization | 13:41 |
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| mnaser | right. now I'm not sure what to do (and frankly, I can't imagine how even more painful this might be for someone who's new to this) | 13:44 |
| mnaser | most people would have probably thrown it on a git repo and called it a day by now (because of all this 'extra work') | 13:45 |
| emccormick | There's a mix of formality in there to accommodate scared newbies or overly busy Ops (who isn't??) | 13:45 |
| emccormick | Some repos are curated. Some are wild west. Throw it in there with now warranty | 13:46 |
| mnaser | yeah, like I can't imagine someone would have actually pushed through to go through all of this :p | 13:46 |
| emccormick | mnaser The idea was that, if a contributor didn't want to commit to maintaining a tool and putting in a little bit of testing, it could just live in the -contrib repos (the uncurated place) | 13:57 |
| emccormick | essentially that was meant to be no more work than sticking it in one's own git repo | 13:57 |
| emccormick | The process on that wiki page was meant to be handled by the "SIG" team. | 13:58 |
| emccormick | Lots of ops have been through Upstream Institute or are otherwise competent enough to deal with Gerrit though, so likely it wouldn't be a huge issue for people to follow normal workflow | 13:59 |
| emccormick | We do need a Quickstart sort of doc so people could figure out what they needed to do just to push something up without having to read 20 pages of goo though. | 14:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged x/osops-tools-contrib master: heat: add cleanup_stacks https://review.opendev.org/662277 | 22:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged x/osops-tools-contrib master: osa: add tool to cleanup host https://review.opendev.org/662436 | 22:42 |
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