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| mihalis68_ | I'll be late to the ops meetup IRC meeting | 14:00 |
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| mihalis68_ | hello I'm here. Who's here besides me? | 14:07 |
| mihalis68_ | ping spotz, emccormick, mrhillsman, med_, smcginnis | 14:07 |
| spotz | morning | 14:07 |
| smcginnis | Morning | 14:08 |
| mihalis68_ | Good Morning | 14:08 |
| mihalis68_ | #startmeeting ops-meetup-team | 14:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 6 14:08:27 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:08 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 14:08 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic actions | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "actions (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:08 | |
| mihalis68_ | I haven't updated the agenda today, I thought my previous meeting was cancelled but it wasn't | 14:09 |
| mihalis68_ | We opened up registration for the next meetup last wee | 14:09 |
| mihalis68_ | week | 14:09 |
| smcginnis | Any registrations yet? | 14:09 |
| mihalis68_ | I think we have about 15 non-Bloomberg and 10+ Bloomberg | 14:10 |
| shintaro | hi | 14:10 |
| mihalis68_ | The ceph guys here want to discuss ceph with openstack and also the possibility of launching a ceph operators meetup series separate to openstack meetups | 14:10 |
| mihalis68_ | hi shintaro | 14:11 |
| shintaro | I'm working on our internal process to travel | 14:11 |
| smcginnis | That's a great number for this soon after releasing the registration link. | 14:11 |
| mihalis68_ | I agree. I am getting excited | 14:12 |
| mihalis68_ | other updates: | 14:12 |
| mihalis68_ | we'll provide breakfast and lunch to all attendees | 14:12 |
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| spotz | mihalis68_: did yoou ever get with Thingee? | 14:13 |
| mihalis68_ | also I'll be out on vacation this time next week but hope to have some progress on etherpads before then to share with the community | 14:13 |
| mihalis68_ | I have not talked to him yet but that's a very good point | 14:13 |
| mihalis68_ | #action contact thingee re: ceph content at NYC meetup | 14:13 |
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| mihalis68_ | We have several topics with lots of +1s already. I think they are clearly ready to start their own planning etherpads. | 14:15 |
| mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68_ to break out already popular topics into separate etherpads and share with community | 14:16 |
| mihalis68_ | these I think are voted in : | 14:17 |
| mihalis68_ | Deployment tools+1+1+1+1+1 | 14:17 |
| mihalis68_ | Ceph +1+1+1+1 | 14:17 |
| mihalis68_ | Long-term Support +1+1 | 14:17 |
| mihalis68_ | Arch Show and Tell Lightning Talk+1+1+1+1+1+1 | 14:17 |
| mihalis68_ | Ops War Stories Lightning Talk+1+1+1 | 14:17 |
| mihalis68_ | any objection to recognizing these immediately? | 14:17 |
| mihalis68_ | I guess that's fine then. Aiming for end of day to start these. I was thinking of tweeting each accepted topic once via the notification account. Thoughts on that? | 14:18 |
| shintaro | no. these topics are always popular | 14:18 |
| mihalis68_ | (I guess I should have a confirmed moderator for each before tweeting out links) | 14:19 |
| smcginnis | Unless you use the tweet to help find a moderator? | 14:19 |
| mihalis68_ | ooh! :) | 14:19 |
| mihalis68_ | I'll try that. | 14:20 |
| emccormick | Hey I'm here. Sorry, people be breaking my ceph cluster | 14:21 |
| mihalis68_ | hey there | 14:21 |
| mihalis68_ | not sure if you have scrollback, but there's a list of hot topics ready to become separate etherpads and really get into detailed content, moderator selection etc. | 14:21 |
| mihalis68_ | I'll be leading with the twitter account but also keeping the mailing list informed | 14:22 |
| mihalis68_ | I also have access to the email addresses of the attendees so will cc: them on such things | 14:22 |
| emccormick | Was just catching up. Sounds good | 14:22 |
| emccormick | You can list me as moderator for deployment tools | 14:23 |
| mihalis68_ | ok great | 14:23 |
| emccormick | Just to seed the pot | 14:23 |
| mihalis68_ | anything else for NYC? | 14:25 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic Shanghai summit | 14:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Shanghai summit (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:25 | |
| mihalis68_ | did anyone find out the definitive info on what visa we will need to go to china for the summit? | 14:25 |
| smcginnis | Sounds like either tourist or business should work. | 14:26 |
| mihalis68_ | is tourist easier to get? I have no idea about this | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | I think I used https://cibtvisas.com/china-visa?source=china_destination_homepage | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | They help a lot (though at a price). | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | Not sure if one is easier than the other. | 14:27 |
| emccormick | You dont have to get an invitation for tourist | 14:27 |
| emccormick | Just a hotel reservation | 14:27 |
| emccormick | And apparently tourist ones come back faster | 14:28 |
| mihalis68_ | I think I'll ask around and then perhaps go for business visa. It seems like I'd get a 10 year one from the page sean linked | 14:28 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, in my case, I didn't think a tourist visa would cut it. :) | 14:28 |
| emccormick | Its random | 14:28 |
| mihalis68_ | my employer may have guidelines though. I'll ask | 14:28 |
| mihalis68_ | who's going that's here today? | 14:29 |
| emccormick | Imma do business just to avoid any nitpicking immigration officials | 14:29 |
| smcginnis | I think I will be there. Usual caveats apply. | 14:29 |
| emccormick | o/ | 14:29 |
| mihalis68_ | o/ | 14:30 |
| smcginnis | emccormick: Good call. | 14:30 |
| shintaro | I will too | 14:30 |
| emccormick | o and if anyone knows where they're staying... | 14:30 |
| emccormick | I don't wanna be alone in Shanghai hehe | 14:31 |
| mihalis68_ | it's not clear to me what opportunities for a real ops meetup day we have | 14:31 |
| emccormick | probably going Intercontinental Expo | 14:31 |
| mihalis68_ | we've responded to diablo_cody about our wishes | 14:31 |
| smcginnis | Hah | 14:31 |
| mihalis68_ | Oh yeah I didn't check, sorry emccormick, will try to get to that | 14:31 |
| mihalis68_ | are we going to do something in any case? we talked about just using hotel bar space | 14:32 |
| emccormick | That hotel has conference and meeting facilities btw. If we found a benevolent sponsor, maybe we could do a 1 day thing on our own. Not sure how much a room costs but maybe wouldn't hurt to look into ;) | 14:32 |
| emccormick | or the hotel bar, yeah | 14:33 |
| emccormick | I think at least an informal thing would be nice | 14:33 |
| mihalis68_ | I wont be asking Bloomberg to pay for space in shanghai, it will be too soon after us hosting here | 14:33 |
| emccormick | nono not Bloomberg heh | 14:33 |
| emccormick | maybe one of the chinese cloud operators | 14:33 |
| emccormick | Cloud99 who's handing out the invitation letters | 14:34 |
| mihalis68_ | so we seem to be moving towards asking someone to host, just like the "mid-cycles" | 14:34 |
| emccormick | I don't want to make it that official | 14:34 |
| emccormick | but it's worth looking into | 14:34 |
| mihalis68_ | It would be a bit easier if we could find a local coordinator | 14:34 |
| emccormick | yep | 14:35 |
| mihalis68_ | or even just a local person to bounce ideas off | 14:35 |
| mihalis68_ | maybe I should ask the mailing list for someone to step forward | 14:35 |
| shintaro | How about Horace Li, the Foundation guy in China | 14:35 |
| mihalis68_ | do you know him personally? | 14:35 |
| shintaro | Yes, he came to OpenStack Days Tokyo last month | 14:36 |
| smcginnis | Horace would be a great resource to use for that. | 14:37 |
| mihalis68_ | Could I ask you to contact him and ask him for ideas on a separate space for an ops meetup, since the best the foundation can offer is maybe some space in a big room with other people there | 14:37 |
| shintaro | I will | 14:37 |
| mihalis68_ | #action shintaro to reach out to Horace Li for ideas on space for ops meetup day in shanghai | 14:37 |
| shintaro | got it | 14:38 |
| emccormick | FYI 99Cloud was the one I was thinking of. I got it backwards | 14:38 |
| mihalis68_ | I'm thinking about how Mark Collier talked about openstack clusters measured in hectares in china | 14:38 |
| mihalis68_ | seems like a room for a day is not a lot to ask in that context | 14:38 |
| emccormick | and there's now a list of suggested hotels on the summit page. 0 of which are the one I was looking at *heh* | 14:38 |
| mihalis68_ | Oh maybe that was Jon Bryce, yeah, because it's like a ranch in texas | 14:39 |
| mihalis68_ | anything else to discuss re: shanghai for today? | 14:39 |
| shintaro | Do we have any preferred day for OpsMeetup? | 14:39 |
| emccormick | I would think Thursday | 14:40 |
| mihalis68_ | I haven't really studied the conference schedule | 14:40 |
| emccormick | once all the summit and forum things wrap up | 14:40 |
| mihalis68_ | personally I like to be able to soak up all the keynotes | 14:40 |
| mihalis68_ | yeah, right, exactly | 14:40 |
| emccormick | PTG actually begins Wednesday | 14:40 |
| emccormick | Forum is Monday / Tuesday | 14:41 |
| emccormick | but there's still presentations Wednesday too | 14:41 |
| shintaro | OK I will ask for Thursday | 14:41 |
| emccormick | so I would think Thursday would be best | 14:41 |
| smcginnis | Agree | 14:41 |
| emccormick | Then I can go be a tourist for 3 days ;) | 14:41 |
| mihalis68_ | sounds good | 14:42 |
| mihalis68_ | I can't see past September for some reason :) | 14:42 |
| emccormick | Can't imagine why... | 14:43 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic 2020 meetups | 14:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "2020 meetups (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:43 | |
| emccormick | O. We should add a session in September to ask for Forum submissions | 14:43 |
| emccormick | I think we need to keep our requests very light this time. Maybe one or two since the Forum is so short | 14:43 |
| mihalis68_ | agreed | 14:43 |
| emccormick | 2020 was on me to put out the call for | 14:43 |
| mihalis68_ | throw it up on the planning etherpad | 14:43 |
| mihalis68_ | yeah, was just about to remind you | 14:44 |
| emccormick | and I have not done it | 14:44 |
| emccormick | *shakes fist at his Ceph cluster* | 14:44 |
| emccormick | I have a half written email I will try to wrap up today | 14:44 |
| mihalis68_ | let's not kick ourselves too much. We are here and trying... | 14:44 |
| mihalis68_ | is anyone here about to register for NYC? The reason I ask is I plan to ping the registered attendees who are not bloomberg employees about someone else sponsoring the day 1 evening social | 14:46 |
| mihalis68_ | I'm guessing not but thought I'd see | 14:46 |
| mihalis68_ | We have a good number from a large telecom company :) | 14:46 |
| mihalis68_ | naming no names | 14:46 |
| emccormick | I"m already signed up :) | 14:46 |
| mihalis68_ | I saw! | 14:46 |
| mihalis68_ | I'll kick off that discussion | 14:47 |
| mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68_ to ask attendees to NYC meetup about sponsoring the social | 14:48 |
| mihalis68_ | (sorry to jump back a topic or two) | 14:48 |
| shintaro | It may take another week for me to get ready to register... | 14:48 |
| mihalis68_ | I'm sure I'll be ping the attendees again a couple more times | 14:49 |
| mihalis68_ | I was showing a colleague who runs our ceph team now all the material we have from past meetups. Definitely started to feel a sense of achievement from all this | 14:49 |
| mihalis68_ | I can't decide whether splitting ceph out into a separate stream is the right thing, or just slightly expand the mission | 14:50 |
| mihalis68_ | does anyone have strong thoughts on that? | 14:50 |
| mihalis68_ | I mean, this team is explicitly the openstack operators meetups | 14:50 |
| mihalis68_ | however it sprang from a foundation that has now expanded its mission into things like cicd and other things | 14:51 |
| smcginnis | I think ceph is very complementary and fits well with the overall mission of the group. | 14:51 |
| emccormick | I guess it's just a matter of interest | 14:51 |
| emccormick | we'll guage it and see | 14:52 |
| mihalis68_ | yes, interest-wise it's a good fit | 14:52 |
| mihalis68_ | I'm trying to work out whether making it semi-officially the "openstack and ceph operators meetup" would be a breach of some protocol | 14:52 |
| mihalis68_ | ceph has always had a slightly undefined status vis a vis openstack | 14:53 |
| mihalis68_ | not an official openstack project | 14:53 |
| mihalis68_ | a very important project to openstack | 14:53 |
| mihalis68_ | huge overlap in the communities | 14:53 |
| smcginnis | I think for many operators, it's hard to talk about running an OpenStack cloud without at least some coverage of ceph. | 14:53 |
| smcginnis | It's always one of the most popular cinder backends according to the survey results. | 14:54 |
| mihalis68_ | yeah, I saw stats saying 68% of production openstack deployments use ceph for storage | 14:54 |
| mihalis68_ | and that was a while ago (maybe 2+ years) | 14:54 |
| mihalis68_ | I guess it's something the community should decide | 14:55 |
| mihalis68_ | in NYC | 14:55 |
| mihalis68_ | it has become more of a goal for my employer to facilitate a community around ceph given that it now technically "belongs" to IBM and (no disrespect to IBM) needs a counterbalance to "giant corporate behemoth" ownership tendencies | 14:56 |
| emccormick | ok, I"m having multple messengers buzzing at once. I'm gonna go idle here in a sec (more than I've already been) | 14:57 |
| mihalis68_ | alright | 14:57 |
| mihalis68_ | oversharing there | 14:57 |
| emccormick | :D | 14:57 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic any other business | 14:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "any other business (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:57 | |
| emccormick | I'm going to message the organizers of the two local openstack meetups here about the NYC meetup | 14:57 |
| mihalis68_ | excellent | 14:57 |
| emccormick | might draw a bit of interest if they share since it's so close | 14:57 |
| mihalis68_ | final thing I wanted to mention : we have three good rooms booked all day both days. Plenty of space for parallel tracks and/or breakout/follow-on sessions | 14:58 |
| emccormick | People are crappy about showing up to events but the membership is pretty good | 14:58 |
| emccormick | super | 14:58 |
| mihalis68_ | feel free to share my contact info for questions etc | 14:58 |
| mihalis68_ | last call | 14:59 |
| mihalis68_ | ok thanks everyone. I will share this meetings minutes on the list | 14:59 |
| mihalis68_ | see you in two weeks (vacation next week) | 14:59 |
| mihalis68_ | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Topics related to operating OpenStack infrastructure | Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 6 14:59:58 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-08-06-14.08.html | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-08-06-14.08.txt | 15:00 |
| shintaro | thank you all! | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-08-06-14.08.log.html | 15:00 |
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| emccormick | have a good week everyone | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68_: Hey, you ever happen to read any of the Rivers of London books? Latest one I'm reading involves the construction site of the Bloomberg London office. :D | 15:00 |
| mihalis68_ | nope, haven't | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | I'd recommend them, if you like that kind of thing. THey're described as Harry Potter meets CSI. | 15:01 |
| mihalis68_ | sounds good! | 15:01 |
| mihalis68_ | my guilty pulp fiction pleasure is the Harry Dresden series. "hard-boiled detective who is also a wizard" noir | 15:02 |
| mihalis68_ | maybe we should try to host in London one day | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | Sounds a little similar on concept. I haven't seen those, I'll have to check it out. | 15:02 |
| mihalis68_ | that office is off the charts, it's insane | 15:03 |
| mihalis68_ | when I came back from a week working in London I had a little twinge of "oh ... this dump.." and our office here is pretty deent | 15:03 |
| mihalis68_ | decent | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | :D | 15:03 |
| emccormick | Well we are looking for a 2020 EU host... | 15:04 |
| emccormick | :D | 15:04 |
| emccormick | Just sayin' | 15:05 |
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| admin0 | hi .. how do i force a flavor to a hypervisor .. i got 2 lxd nodes up, and a lxd flavor .. but for some reasons, they do not go into the lxd computes | 21:20 |
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| spotz | admin0: look at availability zones | 22:11 |
| spotz | maybe host aggregates as well | 22:11 |
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